1974 European Championships 4x400m relay

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Kevin Sibley

Kevin Sibley

14 жыл бұрын

The Uk fight it out with Europe for the medals in a thrilling race!

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@andersoncohen1276
@andersoncohen1276 9 жыл бұрын
The black british runner who ran the first leg, Glendon Howard Cohen is my dad.
@gakaface
@gakaface 7 жыл бұрын
I remember he was a regular member of the British 4 x 400m relay team. You should be very proud of him!
@Fatima502
@Fatima502 6 жыл бұрын
It was such a privilege to see athletes like him and Ainsley Bennett on the British team in the 70s. He was worth a 1000 David Jenkins.
@franklee4289
@franklee4289 6 жыл бұрын
Glen's running style and gait was always recognisable. Didn't he marry Eleanor Thomas, the sprinter? Memories!
@franklee4289
@franklee4289 6 жыл бұрын
Ainsley was a great servant to British athletics during a dry period.
@yaxifromeast1989
@yaxifromeast1989 4 жыл бұрын
I like The way he swag his head
@Logans3Run
@Logans3Run 2 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant last leg by Jenkins! Well deserved win for team GB.
@jeffreyharris3887
@jeffreyharris3887 10 ай бұрын
Karl Honz was a helluva runner ,he came from miles back
@jannetguarte3656
@jannetguarte3656 3 жыл бұрын
Great Karl Honz! fastest anchor: 44,1.
@geekpie100
@geekpie100 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic race. Bill Hartley had a good leg.
@Zndwls
@Zndwls 6 жыл бұрын
This still remains the best 4x400m relay performance in the major international championships for Finland's men. Thanks for uploading it!
@waynehentley4332
@waynehentley4332 5 жыл бұрын
Blood doping!!!!!
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama 4 жыл бұрын
@@waynehentley4332 Yawn. Jenkins from UK is a known doper, and probably many others doped, too. No evidence for the Finns, however.
@waynehentley4332
@waynehentley4332 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulVinonaama Overnight, massive improvement. That's all the proof that's needed. I remember Mona Lisa and Riitta from the 70s.
@markshorter76
@markshorter76 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynehentley4332 Overnight? Far from it: The Finnish team was 6th in Munich 1972 with a much better time than this (3.01.12, still the NR). Kukkoaho's (the anchor) and the 4x400m relay team's performances improved gradually from 1969 to 1972. Yes, there was blood doping knowledge in Finland and it was a factor behind the achievements of its athletes, very likely including many of those who never admitted. But two things are typically missing in Anglo-American commentary: 1) Finland certainly was not the only Western European country that had scientific doping programs - later studies have e.g. uncovered an extensive West German (not East German!) state doping program in athletics that was in operation in the 1970s and 1980s. As for David Jenkins, the GB anchor here, he "later confessed to using performance enhancing anabolic steroids" - meaning that he robbed two European Championships medals from Kukkoaho, who was 4th in both 1971 and 1974 (if we look at things from the Finnish perspective!). 2) There was what has been described as "religious" enthusiasm for running and athletics in Finland from late 1960s onwards: A new generation of coaches, also from abroad, and dedicated runners who were willing to train hard and challenge each other to better achievements. Knowing how hard the athletes trained and how talented the best were, it is mildly irritating (knowing that ignorance is stubborn and prejudice dies hard) to read simplistic comments like yours that reduces all this to cheating - with the implication that there must be something fishy going on if athletes from smaller countries are successful. Know-how in terms of training, talent and hard work were not limited to major Western countries in the 1970s, even if doping played a part in all of them.
@waynehentley4332
@waynehentley4332 3 жыл бұрын
@@markshorter76You can be as irritated as you want, I stand by my statement. Both Mona Lisa and Riita were overnight sensations. They were able to train harder because of the doping. Where are the great Finnish athletes of today? You do have great javelin throwers though!
@djelalniyazi4090
@djelalniyazi4090 5 жыл бұрын
when i was a kid i used to watch these
@mrgobrien
@mrgobrien Жыл бұрын
Re david jenkins (last leg for britain here) - i saw him win silver in this event at the 72 olympics, but didn't realise it was only every 4 years - i'd have to wait for the next time. so i waited. until 1976, the olympics started, but it was all swimming, i was told that the athletics was the next week - i'd have to wait. so i waited. the athletics started the next week, but it wasn't the relay, i was told that the relay was at the end of the athletics - i'd have to wait. so i waited. the relay race came on, but they only ran 1 corner or 1 straight, not the whole lap each - i was told that was the 4 x 100 metre relay, the 4 x 400 metre relay was at the end of that - i'd have to wait. so i waited. the 4 x 400 metre race came on, but the heats not the final, and jenkins would run last for britain again - i'd have to wait. so i waited. but before jenkins actually got the baton, alan pascoe dropped it (or rather it was knocked out of his hand). so after all that waiting - and then it turned out that jenkins had been taking drugs around 1976 anyway. somehow i didn't know about this race - it would've saved me 2 years and much frustration.
@redrum4100
@redrum4100 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much sums up my experience too.
@simolamsa8716
@simolamsa8716 10 жыл бұрын
Stig Lönnqvist-Ossi Karttunen-Markku Taskinen-Markku Kukkoaho. Upeaa katseltavaa..
@susannakristiina3514
@susannakristiina3514 5 жыл бұрын
Jokaisen mainitsemistasi erottaa omalla juoksutyylillään, mm Taskisen pellavapään heiluminen, Kukkoahon junamainen meno 👏👏👏💪
@eandogaming1743
@eandogaming1743 5 жыл бұрын
Stig o mun ukki
@kurman4749
@kurman4749 Ай бұрын
David Jenkins was absolutely sensational, as indeed were Glen Cohen, Bill Hartley and Alan Pascoe
@stevefurness3157
@stevefurness3157 5 жыл бұрын
One of the craziest 3 minutes of running I have ever seen!
@RickyAuk22
@RickyAuk22 10 ай бұрын
Yes, we lost the USSR & Swedish runners to falls within about 50 metres
@mc1703
@mc1703 14 жыл бұрын
outstanding anchor!
@ChristovMr
@ChristovMr 14 жыл бұрын
What strikes me is how the style of running has changed - They're all running scared, as opposed to today's athletes who tend to relax mid-race and pace themselves, run their own race and save some for the finish! Great race!
@johnpaulrichardmuller2560
@johnpaulrichardmuller2560 2 жыл бұрын
Honz 44,1 ! Great performance.
@robbiebennett5062
@robbiebennett5062 Жыл бұрын
Honz famously 'blew up' in the 4 x400m at his home Olympics in Munich 1972 having a huge lead on the last leg only to be passed and West Germany finishing outside the medals.
@youngsteph1
@youngsteph1 Жыл бұрын
It made me laugh in the third leg when 200 metres out Coleman said the Finn is dying, when at the end of the leg, he stormed right in the lead.
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama Жыл бұрын
Taskinen ran great also in the 800m home stretch, snatching bronze.
@rlawther8059
@rlawther8059 4 ай бұрын
The coach must have said wait until Coleman says something and then run like hell
@seanofafrica
@seanofafrica 11 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain that, while yes you are right, he did start taking steroids in 1975, it was during the winter of 75 that he began. A moot point perhaps, but he was ranked number one in the world in 1975 (mostly due to being the only non-American to win the US Open 400m title, and breaking 45) and so, for any kids reading this, we should draw attention to the fact that he went downhill AFTER taking steroids. Also, there's some other commentary of this race that, in my opinion, is even better.
@timrobinson100
@timrobinson100 5 жыл бұрын
jenkins best ever run to hold off the great honz
@olliorkoneva1689
@olliorkoneva1689 9 жыл бұрын
Jumaliste, Karttunen, vanha sotaratsu! Ja Kukkoaho, hävisi paremmilleen mutta teki kaiken minkä pystyi! Oli upeaa nähdä tuo kaikki.
@petrijuvonen4627
@petrijuvonen4627 Жыл бұрын
Lisäksi Salin ja Lönnqvist.
@artolehtio8284
@artolehtio8284 Жыл бұрын
Vieläköhän Karttusella on tallessa vanha kilpailupaita
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama Жыл бұрын
@@petrijuvonen4627 Taskinen, ei Salin.
@mankiperukangas7785
@mankiperukangas7785 11 ай бұрын
Oli kyllä Tainionkosken Sfinksin elämänsä juoksu.
@timrobinson100
@timrobinson100 5 жыл бұрын
LOVE WATCHING THIS RACE [ MAGIC DAYS THEN WITH COLEMAN
@111Matu
@111Matu 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting - great to see this. Would anyone have footage of the 4x400 from the Munich 1972 Olympics?
@sanderslongdrive
@sanderslongdrive 4 жыл бұрын
Great memories of four great British runners. I recall first seeing Alan Pascoe competing with me (in a different event to me) in the English Schools' Champs. in 1967 at Peterborough. He won the senior 110 yards hurdles for the second year in succession. But I'm unsure as to how he managed it bearing in mind his birthday of 11/10/'47? (Unless the internet stated birthday date is incorrect). The other runner who I particularly remember was David Jenkins - famous for going off far too fast and blowing up time after time after time. But on that day he didn't and indeed he ran absolutely magnificently! It was a great European Champs. that year, but I was saddened by my pal Tony Simmons failing to snatch a gold medal on the line in the 10,000 metres. He bust a gut trying! Happy days, and how time flies by.
@trickygoose2
@trickygoose2 2 жыл бұрын
Until about 15 to 20 years ago, the Senior age group in the English Schools' was open to those still at school (or 6th form or FE colleges) as long as they were under 20 at the end of August that year. It has since changed to an under 19 age group. Of course, many students then and now would only have 2 years of eligibility because they had left school for higher education or work but some did a 3rd year to get better grades or because they had started A-levels a year late or whatever. I believe that there are still some championships bests at the English Schools' still standing that were set by athletes in their 3rd year.
@aragorn1959
@aragorn1959 3 жыл бұрын
David Jenkins !! What a talent he was ! What he could have achieved ! I recall Honz, Werner and Fonz Briedenbach As his rivals on the euro circuit in the 70s
@robbiebennett5062
@robbiebennett5062 Жыл бұрын
True but I was devastated to discover that he was a drug cheat.
@redrum4100
@redrum4100 11 ай бұрын
Ditto @@robbiebennett5062
@nickbamber268
@nickbamber268 10 ай бұрын
Honz ran 44.7 flat in 1973.
@222mozart
@222mozart 12 жыл бұрын
the 4x400 ever thrills
@PeterPan-ho7pg
@PeterPan-ho7pg 9 ай бұрын
Awsome man
@darrenbinns1827
@darrenbinns1827 9 жыл бұрын
Jenks finest moment i thought, especially edging out the German Honz.
@youngsteph1
@youngsteph1 Жыл бұрын
Before the drugs finished him. Ironically, he was better before he took them.
@ewaf88
@ewaf88 9 ай бұрын
David's brother, Roger was also a good athlete and I used to run with him in the Barclay's 4 * 100m relay in the midweek Inter Bank league
@PaulVinonaama
@PaulVinonaama 12 жыл бұрын
Suomen ankkuri (Kukkoaho?) aloitti ehkä hiukan turhan lujaa, silti käsittämättömän hyvä suoritus koko kvartetilta, jos nykyisiin vertaa!
@markshorter76
@markshorter76 3 жыл бұрын
Näin on, hieno suoritus koko jengiltä, "hitaammatkin" juoksijat (Lönnqvist ja Taskinen) pistelevät kierroksen 46 sek. tuntumaan. Tämä huomioiden Münchenin 1972 kvartetin (Taskisen tilalla Salin) yli kaksi sekuntia parempi SE-aika oli vielä käsittämättömämpi.
@MARSIPAANIKAKKU-wj6oy
@MARSIPAANIKAKKU-wj6oy 3 жыл бұрын
NICE TO WATCH IT.. TASKINEN AND KARTTUNEN ARE MY IDOLS ALSO KUKKOAHO
@michaelgeoghegan8850
@michaelgeoghegan8850 5 жыл бұрын
To Anderson u must well proud to see ur dad setting up his team 4 european Gold 😉 n it was mentioned that it was his best run up until that particular relay. What was ur Dad's PB's for 100m, 200m, and 400m for a finish? Id love to know as im an English born former sprinter myself who won many Irish national titles way thru out the 90s and even moved back to Portsmouth for a while n ran 4 Portsmouth AC, Rubbing shoulders with Roger Black, Kriss Akabusi, Todd Bennett n all the great 400m guys from down that way. I think I topped the Portsmouth rankings in 1994 in a couple of races i done while there against Paul Saunders, Lee Fairclough n Todd Bennett in the Hampshire Co Champs. But haven't England always been right up there when it comes to putting a 4x 400m relay team together. I hope u get to read this message n tell dad how proud i was of his run here 😉. Never forget 1991 world champs wen we beat the Americans at what they considered their event, ha ha not that day tho. John Regis ran 43.7sec for his leg that day n he doesn't or didn't sud i say do the 400m!! Nice post BTW thanks
@pammacgregor8857
@pammacgregor8857 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the race Michael that had Chris running the anchor leg instead of " pretty boy Black " as Chris affectionately called him ,they changed the running order I think the night before the race knowing if they managed to keep up with the Americans that at least would give Chris a chance on the anchor leg ,this is my favourite race of all time ,there is also a brilliant 4 part interview on u Tube with the lads ,the faces on the Americans when they lost the race is one to remember , pure "what the hell happened there " 😀
@MARSIPAANIKAKKU-wj6oy
@MARSIPAANIKAKKU-wj6oy 3 жыл бұрын
NICE TO WATCH IT
@gakaface
@gakaface 7 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting watching this for the first time and a very exciting race. Unfortunately tainted by the subsequent knowledge that Jenkins went on to be Britain's worst ever drugs villain. Not only did he use steroids during his athletic career, he was actually convicted of drug trafficking and spent nearly a year in prison. His subsequent business success can never make up for the damage he did to the reputation of British athletics.
@archiewoosung5062
@archiewoosung5062 6 жыл бұрын
I knew he was convicted for drug smuggling, but hadn't heard about the steroid use...do you have a source?
@skinnytinny9023
@skinnytinny9023 5 жыл бұрын
Archie Woosung Interviewed by The Wall Street Journal 27th March 2000.
@stoolpigeon4285
@stoolpigeon4285 Жыл бұрын
Jenkins- Britains worst ever drugs villain? What, our very own Pablo Escobar?
@redrum4100
@redrum4100 Жыл бұрын
Jenkins is his own source, he freely admitted it (as opposed to being caught).
@redrum4100
@redrum4100 Жыл бұрын
Note that Jenkins was not taking drugs as this point, nor indeed when he was ranked number one in the world in 1975. It's ironic that his best years came before drug use (1976 onwards) and that actually they did him no favours whatsoever.
@MANGOSITRUUNAKPZTAF
@MANGOSITRUUNAKPZTAF 3 жыл бұрын
nice to watch this
@Roybhoy888
@Roybhoy888 4 жыл бұрын
What a finish after 2 bad changeovers..
@OMENARAHKA-pt7zl
@OMENARAHKA-pt7zl 3 жыл бұрын
nice to wathc it.. kukkoaho is my idol
@elephantbarbiegirl
@elephantbarbiegirl 11 жыл бұрын
Great race!
@thomasmckenzie4584
@thomasmckenzie4584 Жыл бұрын
It almost looked like roller derby with the runners dropping like flies.
@ysgol3
@ysgol3 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon Lillian Board's spirit helped David over the line.
@MARMELADIKAKKUAFYTA
@MARMELADIKAKKUAFYTA 3 жыл бұрын
my idols honz. kukkoaho and arzanov
@OMENASOSE-zm2yl
@OMENASOSE-zm2yl 3 жыл бұрын
kukkoaho. honz and arzhanov are my idols
@APBCTechnique
@APBCTechnique 5 жыл бұрын
Jenkins a good runner but steroids ruined him and reputation
@capt.lovestarii2752
@capt.lovestarii2752 4 жыл бұрын
He might still have been clean in '74. Certainly by the late 70s there were several British athletes on the juice.
@timrobinson100
@timrobinson100 5 жыл бұрын
love watching this race for david jenkins leg early on great viewing
@mrgobrien
@mrgobrien Жыл бұрын
jenkins ran last for britain
@XxsnIperN00bxX
@XxsnIperN00bxX 3 жыл бұрын
A tarnished victory for GB, given the anchor runner's later admission of long-term steroid use.
@JC-sc1rk
@JC-sc1rk Жыл бұрын
I loved watching Jenkins ...until the drugs thing
@SITRUUNAUTZFY
@SITRUUNAUTZFY 3 жыл бұрын
mun idoli on kukkoaho
@archie6945
@archie6945 5 ай бұрын
Lots of empty seats; France & Finland in the medal hunt!
@fitzieo1
@fitzieo1 14 жыл бұрын
Do you have the 800m for men from the same championships.
@BrittanyLBarbour
@BrittanyLBarbour 11 жыл бұрын
David Jenkins is the man!
@athlete5399
@athlete5399 14 жыл бұрын
hi there, I'm afraid I dont have the 800m from the same champs. Sorry :-(
@MARMELADIKAKKU-df1td
@MARMELADIKAKKU-df1td 3 жыл бұрын
KUKKOAHO ON MUN IDOLI SAMOIN KARTTUNEN
@timrobinson100
@timrobinson100 5 жыл бұрын
must admit honz too , like jenkins awesome
@sporttivertti2561
@sporttivertti2561 6 жыл бұрын
Hylättiinkö Suomi?
@joonaseloranta8770
@joonaseloranta8770 5 жыл бұрын
Ei. Wiki on väärässä.
@markshorter76
@markshorter76 3 жыл бұрын
Ranska teki protestin, väitti että Kukkoaho töni niiden ankkuria. Se ei mennyt läpi, mutta jostain syystä ulkomailla joihinkin tuloslistoihin jäi virheenä kummittelemaan Ranska pronssijoukkueena.
@roystonhesketh3987
@roystonhesketh3987 25 күн бұрын
Sadly jenkins.....
@kiwiangel26571
@kiwiangel26571 11 жыл бұрын
david jenkins is my cousin.
@kmruhgrdsvrojh
@kmruhgrdsvrojh 4 жыл бұрын
my condolences
@trickygoose2
@trickygoose2 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmruhgrdsvrojh Apparently he is now considered a legitimate businessman rather than the kingpin of the US west coast steroid market.
@mc1703
@mc1703 14 жыл бұрын
now i read he's a dope fiend... nothing like a cheat to ruin a good relay!
@sodestined1198
@sodestined1198 10 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh the UK is in EUROPE. LOL
@johnjones9689
@johnjones9689 5 жыл бұрын
Not any more!
@siypic
@siypic 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnjones9689 That would be the EU..... (Which is like a big supermarket)
@trickygoose2
@trickygoose2 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnjones9689 Brexit didn't drag us across to the other side of the Atlantic, however much a few of its supporters seemed to want that.
@smilodontiger5675
@smilodontiger5675 2 жыл бұрын
The steroids kept Jenkins going for the final few metres.
@user-ym8ec3jt2x
@user-ym8ec3jt2x 9 ай бұрын
СССР ЖИВ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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