1996 Toyota 4runner double cardan joint

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3 жыл бұрын

I'm rebuilding the double cardan joint in my 1996 toyota 4runner in order to fix the vibration that has been worsening over the last few months. It is also causing a thumping noise when taking off from a stop and growling noise on the highway. I have always stuggled with double cardan joints but I don't rebuild them often. Most of the time on the Jeeps and Dodge trucks the flange or nipple needs replaced so it make since for me to just send those to the driveline shop.
I could not find the parts listed for a 1996 or newer toyota 4runner but they seem to be the same parts that my 1996 toyota pickup uses. If the parts don't fit properly don't use them!!!!
The parts I used for this was a PRE 614 ball and socket kit from Orielly's and two UJ 513 universal joints from Napa. I also replaced the rear universal joint and it was a uj285 from napa.
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@vagabonddread777 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting this most forums act like it can never repaired the parts don't exist and that its just time to buy a new drieshaft. I just did the rear u joint and I plan to do this next. It was a huge help and the part number was a life saver.

@ThePracticalMechanic 6 ай бұрын

Although it’s not the easiest solution it does save the wallet quite a bit. It’s not a job I offer many customers because it’s a time consuming task. I will usually send out to driveline shop to have them perform the repair and check the balance.

@fourc8642 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. This is one of the only videos of this teardown and rebuild for the Toyota that I could find, and it was immensely helpful. I started trying to dig into the double cardan without knowing there was more complexity and parts to it. Likely wouldn't have been able to do this without your video.

@terryj257 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the step by step. I watched about four times, while I rebuilt mine. You're a lot faster than I am. I don't think I would have rebuilt it, myself, without the video.

@bsbrum 2 жыл бұрын

Exact same situation here. The tip on the center bearing alone was a life saver.

@bsbrum 2 жыл бұрын

This video saved me from a dumb financial mistake - ordering a replacement drive shaft. Thank you! ‘98 4Runner 4x4

@michaelherbert8213 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. The old timers i work with said it's impossible to rebuild these joints. Great job man.

@CalebMcKenzie 3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing how other mechanics do things, outstanding video!!!!

@orville58 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff I’ve never been brave enough to tackle one of these thanks for sharing

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

I normally don’t service them in house either. It doesn’t cost me much more to just send it out to the driveline shop.

@wyattoneable 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job getting some good camera angles for us to follow along. It's a pain in the butt job even without all of us hanging around. :)

@mriley8343 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid thank you for posting. Also, nice job not losing it when you smashed your thumb at 10:13

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

I actually went back to see if I smashed my thumb. It must have been a glancing blow because I didn’t even notice and my thumb nail is still intact. Good eye catching that one and have an awesome smash free weekend👍🏻.

@ideo52 3 жыл бұрын

Really great explanation of this repair. Though I think I could attempt this myself, now that I know what's involved I'll probably take my 4runner double-cardan to a drive line shop and let them do it. Your great video helped me make that decision! Thanks.

@andrewk778 3 жыл бұрын

I have never before seen a constant velocity U-joint repair. Thank you for sharing.

@Terry-ww9tr 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. I didn't know that anyone makes parts to rebuild the double cardan joint.

@thebanjoman1963 2 жыл бұрын

Sure wish I came across this earlier. I had a local driveshaft company tell me they wouldn't rebuild mine. Rather than looking for another place to do it I decided to tackle it on my own. I wound up welding bolts on the caps and using a socket to pull the caps out. It was the only way I could get them to budge here in the 'rust belt' Your methods would have made my rebuild much easier but I 'muddled through' and got it. I use Toyota driveshafts on my 1992 Suzuki Samurai as they are more than twice as strong as the stockers. Thanks again for this video.

@scubbarookie 3 жыл бұрын

Very good work! This can be a more involved and complicated procedure; however, your directions and careful approach give clear direction in this matter. Thank you for your time and efforts! BTW... This made me a new subscriber.

@solluna2155 Жыл бұрын

Another excellent video, thank you for taking the time to teaching us 🙂

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@alvaroluisgonzalezespin9865 2 жыл бұрын

Como en las clases de mecánica de la universidad.. no necesitas saber ingles para darte cuenta en este paso a paso como reparar la junta. Excelente trabajo!!

@justplain8793 3 жыл бұрын

Best double cardan video on KZfaq!

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that. I didn't see many yota videos on the double cardan joint so I figured I'd share it since I was rebuilding mine. Funny thing is a couple days later another 300K mile 4runner showed up with a vibration and sloppy joint. I was ready to go on that one.

@user-dx5oj5eu7z 3 жыл бұрын

I agree..

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын

Always wanted to see how those double cardan joints worked. Nice hammer work :)

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ivan. Odd thing is another one came in today needing the double cardan rebuilt. What have I started.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePracticalMechanic haha at least Toyota shafts last 300k miles if greased once in a while. My Suzuki XL7 is developing an annoying vibe on the highway only in 5th gear...gear oil is seeping between the trans and the tcase. Maybe a loose input bearing on the tcase? Ever seen that problem? Only has 177k on the clock 😒

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

I looked through my service information and the 4wd manual transmission diagrams are lacking in detail. If it’s leaking I’d double check the fluid level. It may just need extra lube on that little 5th gear set. I have not had one of those transmissions apart before. It may have an output seal in the back of the transmission or it may be sealed with a gasket up against the transfer case. Hope the transfer case is a design that can be easily removed. Does it vibe at a certain speed? Does it change under accel and decel? I’m sending another 4runner driveshaft to the driveline shop today because it has a highway vibration. My shaft installed in that 4runner fixes the issue so I’m suspecting it’s bent or out of balance.

@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePracticalMechanic I tore the t-case off last week to take a look. Two oil seals, trans output was dry, tcase input was leaking. No crazy play in any of the shafts, but the t-case input had slight radial play by hand. Refilled both with fresh Redline MT90 and took it on a 350-mile trip. Shifts butter smooth, but vibes are still getting worse ONLY in 5th gear, especially when the driveline is nice and hot. It's pretty bad 45-50mph, gets more tolerable over 70mph. Got back and underside was covered in gear oil coming from the weep hole haha. Ordered a t-case input gear bearing and oil seal...will see if that helps :) P.S. before vibe was bad just under accel, but now it's noticeable anytime it's in 5th...

@alfredomorisaki4664 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for posting this video. information given for the toyota model and the replacement parts were very usefull. I will try to repair my toyota land cruiser prado vj95 2005 using your valuable tips ( this model was assembled in colombia and use a spicer transmission , same engine as your 4 runner but cv joint replacement part seems is 617 for my truck) thanks again

@truenorthadventures4474 3 жыл бұрын

man thanks big time! Iv been getting a vibration/whirring noise when i hit 60-65km/hr then it goes away and I felt like my double cardan was the culprit. Iv replaced my rear driveshaft ujoint which removed some vibrations but im still getting that whirring noise. I crawled under my 1999 4runner and noticed up and down play like you demonstrated in my double cardan. Iv heard these were a bitch but after seeing this video I feel good to go on fixing this. I really appreciate your practicality!

@Garcias_garage724 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I grease all my zerk fittings 1-2 times per oil change interval depending on usage. Probably an overkill but I’d rather have to much grease and a mess than not enough 👍

@jrizk8938 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! Just rebuilt a double cardan on my 2002 Tacoma. Hardest part was tracking down the 2 U joints and cv bearing for the double cardan. The exterior u joints I was able to find at Napa with vehicle specifications. Ended up having to call a drive shaft shop and order the parts. For anyone reading this there are two different sizes of CV bearings that can go into these Toyota double cardans. Be sure to measure the outer race of the bearing to see what size it is. The difference is less than a 1/4” in diameter. Not a complicated job if you take your time. Instead of a hammer I used a ball joint c clamp press I rented from Napa. I am not as skilled as this gentleman with the hammer apparently and ended up knocking some of the needles loose.

@jimothy138 3 жыл бұрын

hey,any willingness to give up your source or even the part numbers you used? Ive got a 03 v6 prerunner that needs this repair

@jrizk8938 3 жыл бұрын

@@jimothy138 the outer u joints you can find at any regular auto store. The inner u joints and centering bearing I got from a drive line shop in Pomona California. Unfortunately I threw away the boxes. The shop I called was JE Reel drive shaft services at 909-629-9002. Super friendly guy, sent my parts out the same day I spoke with him. You just have to know what size centering bearing you have. There’s only two possible that fit he said. But the parts he gave me were exactly what I took out of my stock UJoint. $60 for each u joint and $40 for the bearing if I remember correctly and then pay for shipping of course. Hope this helps 🤘

@Nessal83 Жыл бұрын

Brother we all need this information. I got the measurements for the u joints but not the center bearing.

@montyM89 5 ай бұрын

What cv bearing did you use? I have a 2003 Tacoma and can’t find it anywhere

@AlanNandez Ай бұрын

What are the part numbers for the Tacoma I have a 1995 Tacoma

@mynormurphy2 Жыл бұрын

Magnífico, greetings from Panamá. We use here Toyota 4runner 3.0 diesel Engine. Love the video, it make understand the Double u joint.

@davidhughes4728 3 жыл бұрын

I like the video keep up the good work and I think that's the best way to do it your way

@splavin90 3 жыл бұрын

I just replaced all my driveshaft u joints on my 2x6 deck. What I learned after watching this whole video is I need a vise

@shanleesumibcay512 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the helpful video. I’m trying to do the same, but on my 2002 Toyota Tacoma since my U joint in my double cardan joint has gone so bad. After I took it apart, even my cardan joint was bad since all of the needles came out. I’m gonna try order the same part since it looks so similar

@timberlineoffroad 10 ай бұрын

Great video, good tips!👍🏻💯

@flux7522 2 ай бұрын

Man good job on keeping your cool on that thumb hit!!

@ThePracticalMechanic Ай бұрын

Must have been a glancing blow. At this point I have little feeling in my hands so I often end up with wounds I don’t remember receiving.

@geraldfiorello6231 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome job.

@chriscollison933 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like possible trans mounts getting worn too transfer case was moving along with! Idk just a thought but great video and do appreciate the very knowledgeable take!

@TheAbJGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Great great great thank you for sharing

@damarpo5467 6 ай бұрын

Great job!

@kevinficzere3826 9 ай бұрын

Great vid! Thanks!

@Handlethis342 Жыл бұрын

In the middle of the same project. What a pain in the ass.

@bajar.m.6953 2 жыл бұрын

Well done. 👍🏾

@rafaelgonzalez4935 3 жыл бұрын

Usted si sabe lo que hase yo pregunte en la toyota y me dijeron que eso no se arreglaba que abia que comprarlo entero

@CubasAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын

👀👀 interested in this one. Sweet!

@CubasAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын

Wow... what a process! Extremely awesome video Chad!

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Cuba. The only time I touch these is when it’s for my own vehicle and I can get the parts.

@bluesky-ud9wg 2 жыл бұрын

I'm actually Very Impressed. I'm a Toyota MDT and we are Not allowed to Rebuild the DC Joint. I have a 2002 4x4 4Runner and the Joint finally wore out. For $1200 my cost, I decided to get an AM drive shaft and have a vibration. I'll go down to the Driveshaft Shop and have them balance it and see how it is. If not "perfect" then I'll scrounge the Salvage Yards for one and have the joint rebuilt.

@ThePracticalMechanic 2 жыл бұрын

They are technically not rebuildable since no factory parts are available. The parts I used are for the older generation. The ball doesn’t fit as tight as the OEM but I haven’t had any issues on my 4Runner since rebuilding it. If it wasn’t my own I probably would have recommended a shaft.

@bluesky-ud9wg 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePracticalMechanic Yea the pts aren't available, I should have posted that also. Kinda stuck with OEM.

@abboudabudafair1484 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot... that is very helpful.

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

No worries!

@montgomerybojangles8644 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy, I just took apart mt rear driveshaft on my 3rd gen (2001) 4runner and found that the double cardan U-joints are a different size than the U-joint at the rear of the driveshaft that bolts up to the rear axle. Going to order some UJ513s and hopefully they will fit, thank you so much for sharing.

@montgomerybojangles8644 3 жыл бұрын

Also for anyone doing this job do NOT for whatever reason spin the ball inwards inside the cardan joint itself. The spring will cause it to get stuck and you will not be able to spin the ball back around into the correct position unless you unscrew the grease fitting and line up the spring with the grease hole and push it into place, then spin the ball back around. Curiosity cost the cat about 30 minutes.

@montgomerybojangles8644 3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't the 513 for my truck (2001 4runner Sr5 4wd 3.4) I believe its the spicer 1310. going to retun the 513s and grab the 1310s. I noticed my old ujoints had outer lock rings. and the outer bearing diameter is 1.063" same as a spicer 1310.

@montgomerybojangles8644 3 жыл бұрын

1310 worked and fit. in the double cardan. skf-uj387 on the other end that bolts upto the rear diff.

@tyzok23 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with my 99 tacoma, where did you find the U joints?

@danielhoefer9168 Жыл бұрын

@@montgomerybojangles8644 Tried to fit 1310s in my 2002 4wd 4runner's double cardan. Didn't work, the joints had the right cap diameter but were a hair bit too wide for the outer clips to fit in. 1310s are about 3.219 in, while the OEMs are closer to 3.12. I am assuming you also have the exterior clips and your double cardan doesnt have the holes in the center like the one seen in the video?

@jonasm9392 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@spelunkerd 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant demo. Did it fix the vibration? Maybe a GoPro camera mounted underneath would offer clues....

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Almost all of my vibration is gone. I still have a slight vibration and whine when I accelerate and decelerate but I had metallics in the rear diff fluid during the last service. I suspected the whine was from the rear differential but ignored it since I don't drive it much. Now i'm going to need to rebuild it.

@joelpicar4938 Жыл бұрын

great video! im doing my rebuild as well ..i already have the u joints however the ball socket that to you replaced was not available in my country. checked online but no part number was listed.

@thomaspharazyn 2 жыл бұрын

Man! Yours come out so easy, I had to beat the f out of mine and damaged a yoke

@franyerfranyer6901 3 жыл бұрын

Excelente

@whydontmynameswork Жыл бұрын

Any idea if these same u joints and center hall would cross to a 2000 Tundra with the double cardan? Great vid. Much less intimidated after watching this.

@Iquijano1997 2 ай бұрын

Hey man great vid, very informative. Wanted to ask, how do you distinguish if it’s a drive shaft problem vs a cv axel problem? Is there a method that a less experienced diy-guy can use? Thanks

@HighMileageOverland 2 жыл бұрын

Will the u joint you used fit double Carden for 2000 4runner?

@tyzok23 3 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the ball bearing?

@saulsolis4325 3 жыл бұрын

Everything driveshaft shop I've taken my 97 say the double cardon can't be fixed. I've been quoted 800 just to build a new one. How much would you charge to do the fix you did?

@rossnellingham681 3 жыл бұрын

Have you got a link to this rebuild kit I need one for my ute

@saephan34 8 ай бұрын

Does the 614 Cardan ball kit work for 1998 Tacomas? And where can I get that small slide hammer? Thanks

@reltcl1995 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy the ball joint at

@alexiscorrales2118 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2001 tacoma 4x4 double cabin, how many millimeters is the diameter of this piece? does it work for my car? i think they have similarity in 5vz parts. your answer urges me. Thank you

@GorefiendGaming Жыл бұрын

May i ask why people tend to use this method vs say a shop press and sockets?

@youngbeasters 2 жыл бұрын

Savage hammer blows

@Sakhalinn_Art Ай бұрын

Это вы по ходу даблкардан, а это шарнир Гука😂

@kalebjones1546 2 жыл бұрын

Hey where can you buy that ball replacement kit at anyone know?

@forwardsrilanka8390 2 жыл бұрын

where i can buy this Double cardon joint ball? 🤔.. anyway good video ❤️🔥

@theGADGETSplaylist 3 жыл бұрын

This would have been a good test of the ANDROID phone app NVH method I just featured. I think it would tell how much is shaft and how much is wheel related. Messy job to do video on. You did well:)

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

I agree! I still have two more Toyota's with driveline vibration but I think they both have incorrect pinion angle. My better half has a hybrid highlander that vibrates between 79-84 MPH. Pretty sure its tire vibration or an axle. I'm going to try with android tablet from a few yrs ago.

@theGADGETSplaylist 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePracticalMechanic that's the beauty of this frequency analysis, the 3.5x spread between axle and tire makes it easy to distinguish. Let me know how you make out if you do get a chance to try it...

@chriscollison933 3 жыл бұрын

Or which ever unit is on the right of the double CV my bad

@clayton203 Жыл бұрын

Got a question, Can you take the double cardan part out and attach the flange to make a single cardan joint, Take the h thing that makes it a double out of the equation, just wandering If I could get more angle out of it, not used for hiway driving but the occasional mud hole

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

I have never tried it but the daft would likely be too short afterwards. A driveline shop can retube the shaft and put the proper flange on it too remove the double cardan joint.

@joehochberg3079 Жыл бұрын

will these parts fit a 2004 tacoma prerunner

@Jorgedominguez-gx1yu 3 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for your video, but I have a question. The spare parts you had for a Toyota 95, which model exactly are you referring to? I have a 2001 Toyota Prado KDJ95, those spare parts still fit my vehicle. Greetings and thanks from Spain

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 ай бұрын

I’m not sure if they will fit your vehicle or not. The parts from the 95 hilux looked like close enough for me to try in the 4Runner and I got lucky. If there is a driveline shop near you they may be able to look up the parts required or even sell the parts. If you are unsure about repairing the driveline the driveline shop will likely be able to perform the repair.

@patricktompkins5704 Жыл бұрын

Is this about the same process for a 1st gen 4runner? My front drive shaft has a double cardan joint and the repair manual tells me to just get a whole new drive shaft which I don't wanna do lol

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

Should be the same procedure.

@robertogarcia35 Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍

@edwingonzalez2482 2 жыл бұрын

Will this work on a 1998 Tacoma?

@100Ronster 3 жыл бұрын

Did it fix the vibration?

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Dave it fixed some of the vibrations. The thumping noise taking off from a stop is fixed and the vibration on deceleration is fixed about 50-75% of my vibration at 70mph is fixed. Now I need to rotate and balance the tire to clean up the rest of it. I still have a slight growl and whine from the rear differential. Honestly it’s not bad for a vehicle with 315000 miles.

@joedeitz5739 Жыл бұрын

Can the center ball joint cause vibration, I changed all my u joints still vibrates.

@ThePracticalMechanic Жыл бұрын

Yes it can. The other common vibration point is driveline angle change. Sagged out springs, lift kits and even work control arm bushing and transmission mounts can cause vibration.

@rafaelgonzalez4935 3 жыл бұрын

Esa misma parte de tacoma 2003 4wd doble cab sepude repar a si por que en la toyota medijeron queno que esa parte la venden una sola pieza

@terrellscaife2411 2 жыл бұрын

Hey why not used to ball join Press it’s another video on KZfaq a guy did one of those types of joints for a Dodge 3500 and he use a ball joint press

@jonathanquevedoboggioni2507 2 жыл бұрын

Hello¡¡¡ I from chile.. i need this kit for reparation to me 4 runner years 2002 , 3.4 v6. please,help me... can you tell me where is this kit?? Where can i buy it and request delivery to chile? Thank you¡¡¡

@estevan1989 2 жыл бұрын

Arran de wol

@scottgrigsby4210 3 жыл бұрын

check out Weber auto, really good info on U joints and proper techniques for repair, his vids are long but worth it,

@ThePracticalMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

He does indeed have a very good series but the arbor press methods don't always work on high mileage or rusty components. Many times the vibration from a hammer is required. I do want to get a few of the adaptors he has in the videos but some of them are now discontinued. I was helping the local ford dealership with some brake line repairs and saw one tech installing a brand new driveshaft in a f250. I asked him what was wrong with the old one and he told me the U-joints were bad. He said no one ever changes u-joints anymore. I was amazed and recommended for them to watch the Weber Auto series if they didn't know how to replace them. The driveshaft was $1200 parts and labor.