1ST LEVEL SPELL #14: Chaos Bolt (5E)

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Level: 1st
Casting Time: 1 Action
Range/Area: 120 ft
Components: V, S
Duration: Instantaneous
School: Evocation
Attack/Save: Ranged
Damage/Effect: Acid (...)
Description:You hurl an undulating, warbling mass of chaotic energy at one creature in range. Make a ranged spell attack against the target. On a hit, the target takes 2d8 + 1d6 damage. Choose one of the d8s. The number rolled on that die determines the attack’s damage type, as shown below.
d8 Damage Type
1 Acid
2 Cold
3 Fire
4 Force
5 Lightning
6 Poison
7 Psychic
8 Thunder
If you roll the same number on both d8s, the chaotic energy leaps from the target to a different creature of your choice within 30 feet of it. Make a new attack roll against the new target, and make a new damage roll, which could cause the chaotic energy to leap again.
A creature can be targeted only once by each casting of this spell.
At Higher Levels. When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 2nd level or higher, each target takes 1d6 extra damage of the type rolled for each slot level above 1st.
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@ChancesSpellbook 3 жыл бұрын

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@ComradeVenus 4 жыл бұрын

This is the best spell for wild magic sorcerer, for flavor and for fun.

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

I completely agree!

@ProjectDT88 3 жыл бұрын

I had done just that. Best thing is after I fired it once my magic went wild. The chaos bolt hit, 2 6's. Hit another target, 2 3's. At this point the only one it could jump to was me... however it needs to jump to a creature, and the potted plant I just turned into was not a creature.

@thehiddenninja3428 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChancesSpellbook What do you think of this homebrew class feat? Wild Magic Sorcerers, at level 5 If you know Chaos Bolt, you can cast it at will without expending a spell slot. When cast this way, it deals only 2d8 damage. It always has advantage, and always triggers a Wild Magic Surge

@bleddynwolf8463 3 жыл бұрын

@@thehiddenninja3428 i think "you learn chaos bolt" would be better, and always having advantage sounds overpowered, since your already essentially turning chaos bolt into a cantrip.

@thehiddenninja3428 3 жыл бұрын

@@bleddynwolf8463 Always having advantage is essentially the same as being able to reset Wild Sorcerer's Tides of Chaos ability to gain advantage on anything, once, resetting every levelled spell you cast. I'm saying what if it's every levelled spell _and_ this feat.

@lordandrak 4 жыл бұрын

"shout out to you magic initiates out there" Damn right, my Paladin wants their cantrips!

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Haha damn straight!

@chaoscommentary2179 4 жыл бұрын

This is one of the most unique first level damage spells. Some times when it’s not my turn and we’re just RPing with each other I find my self rolling 2D8 just to see what I get out of Curiosity

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Haha interesting! It's one of my personal favorites as well!

@PrestomachadoYGO 4 жыл бұрын

The way this magic synergise with my wild sorcerer is just magical kkkkk My favorite 1st lv spell Great video btw u.u

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you sooo much! It's always on my list as well, I find it works sooo well with the Wild Magic Motif!

@onesaltydoge3105 3 жыл бұрын

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@thehiddenninja3428 4 жыл бұрын

You mentioned Twin Spell but not Empower? Empower is the one with extra synergy! Say you roll 2d8s, and don't bounce. No matter! Empower it! Now you have an extra 1, 2 or 3 chances to cause it to bounce! It brings the chance of bouncing from 12% to 23% to 33% to 41% to 49% to 55%! Depending on how high your charisma modifier is

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

HAWT DAMN! Good point, totally my bad!

@Hyperdragon1701 4 жыл бұрын

No matter how high you cha is you can only reroll those die once. Your cha only determines how many you can reroll at once.

@kingdedede933 3 жыл бұрын

Actually you can get 31% at level 3. Go Variant Human, Elemental Adept: Cold (turning a damage die from 1 to 2) = 18.75%, 2levels Tempest Cleric for Destructive Wrath on a Chaos Bolt (Thunder) which is another guarantee bounce due to Thunder being an 8. ....Now empower rolls haha. Things get even more...Chaotic.

@CurlyHairedRogue 4 жыл бұрын

It should be noted that if you want to use this on other casters, YOU CAN. Simply choose the Izzet Engineer background, and you gain access to it on your spell list if you have spellcasting at all. I’m totally using this on the artificer. ^_^

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

VERY CLEVER! The Izzet Engineer is actually my favorite backgrounds, I just love their class feature!

@thehiddenninja3428 4 жыл бұрын

Either that or Magic Initiate!

@CurlyHairedRogue 4 жыл бұрын

The Hidden Ninja yes, but you can only cast it with sorcerer spell slots. :

@xiongray Жыл бұрын

I can see a Scribe Wizard with Piercer. On a Crit, 5d8 + 2d6. Getting that extra d8 when changing the damage type to Piercing.

@Shogundoxie1414 Ай бұрын

I would love to see this retooled as a cantrip for sorcerers

@marcusblacknell-andrews1783 4 жыл бұрын

My suggestion for an alternative use is to use this spell as the guidelines for for wild magic homebrews

@thehiddenninja3428 4 жыл бұрын

One more thing that needs to be mentioned for specifically this spell. One of the Wild Magic Surges you can get maximises the damage of your next spell. For most spells, this is nice :) But for Chaos bolt, this is WOW. It effectively means you roll 8, 8 and 6, which means you deal 22 Thunder damage to it. AND! Since you got an 8 on both dice, it bounces! So you make the attack roll against target two. If you hit, 22 damage and it bounces again! Until either there are no creatures in range, or you roll too low on the attack roll. And since you're a Wild sorcerer, you can Bend your own Luck to gain 1d4 to the attack roll, if you discover you've rolled low, until you run out of points. Bonus if you have someone who can cast bless on you for an additional 1d4 to every single attack roll!

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Hmm I didn't know it worked like that! Assuming it does THAT'S AWESOME!!

@Oniphire 4 жыл бұрын

Wild Magic table - "33-34 Maximize the damage of the next damaging spell you cast within the next minute." Chaos Bolt - "On a hit, the target takes 2d8 + 1d6 damage. Choose one of the d8s. The number rolled on that die determines the attacks damage type, as shown below. If you roll the same number on both d8s, the chaotic energy leaps from the target to a different creature..." From that wording I would say it won't cause any bounces. The spell explicitly references your die roll whereas the surge only references the damage.

@thehiddenninja3428 4 жыл бұрын

@@Oniphire then what damage type would you say a maximised chaos bolt would do? Why would maximising the damage cause you to roll even more dice, to determine type? Neither tell you to roll more dice. The damage, and whether it bounces, is determined by the damage. If the damage is random, then the type is random. But if the damage is set, then the type is set, so it would bounce.

@Oniphire 4 жыл бұрын

@@thehiddenninja3428 The damage type is determined by a roll. The bounce is determined by matching rolls. Nothing in any description supersedes those conditions that are stated within the spell. You would still roll for type unless an effect told you to treat your roll, not your damage, as a specific value. Elemental Adept could give you an increased chance to bounce as I'm pretty sure (no PHB handy just now) it says you treat a roll of a 1 as a 2. That would operate within the conditions of the spell. The roll, not the damage, is treated differently (assuming I'm remembering EA correctly).

@thehiddenninja3428 4 жыл бұрын

@@Oniphire Why would you roll for type? chaos bolt says to roll for damage. You don't roll separately for type. So why would you when damage is maximised?

@servernomad8111 4 жыл бұрын

last night in the game i play, i was force to face the enemy barbarian, she took 3 hit on me which reduce me into 11hp in one round i was level 5. luckly she was stunt and i was about to distance myself from her. after that i casted a lv3 chaos bolt on her which crit. she took 4d8+6d6 damge from that bolt and took 50 damage which instant kill her. one of the best moment of my new character damn this spell is super fun when it clicks

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Haha that's AWESOME! I'm sooo happy you've gotten some good use out of it!

@servernomad8111 4 жыл бұрын

@@ChancesSpellbook i mean all spell have their moment im glad i gave this a try.

@marcosguzman7858 4 жыл бұрын

You can say this Spell is "Chaotic" :D

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Haha I see what you did there, very clever

@TroubleMakerROBLOX 4 жыл бұрын

My head is spinning😵

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Is that a good thing?

@Dragoboi1998 4 жыл бұрын

im a little confused when u roll for the damage type to do the damage do u use the roll u already did or do u reroll both d8s

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

You'd use the roll you already did!

@bigdream_dreambig 4 жыл бұрын

You roll your two damage d8s (plus the d6) and then can choose the damage type indicated by either one of those two d8s' numbers. If both numbers are the same, of course, the choice has been made for you -- but it's all good because that's when the bolt jumps to an additional person!

@angelakelley3332 4 жыл бұрын

Okay I'm a little confused about it too, so for my DM you have to choose the indicator die before you roll. And hopefully the way I explain how I'm thinking makes sense, I tried making it as clear as possible. Okay so let's say I rolled this using a 1st level spell slot d8: 6

@Oniphire 4 жыл бұрын

@@angelakelley3332 The indicator die tells you the damage type dealt by all dice rolled for the spell. In your example you've dealt 18 poison damage.

@Khaliljt 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure this can be twinned since only spells that are unable to hit a 2nd person normally can be twinned

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

You are correct, I got into a couple debates over this one. Honestly I would always allow it to be twinned in my games, but by RAW it cannot!

@Oniphire 4 жыл бұрын

"A creature can be targeted only once by each casting of this spell." Because of this line alone I'd say twinning this spell wouldn't be that bad. It prevents you from getting a double bounce onto the same target. Granted the second bounce could go to another target, and twinning it does increase your chances of getting a bounce in the first place. By comparison Empower Spell already doubles your odds for the same cost, though it does lack the initial damage boost you get from twinning the spell.

@WolfHreda 3 жыл бұрын

*cough* I'd homebrew twinning for a couple spells that would otherwise be ineligible. *cough* Honestly, this is just me, I would NOT allow twinning with this one. Ice Knife yes, Chaos Bolt no.

@limetoothpaste6224 4 жыл бұрын

Do you happen to know what spell book Eldritch Knights happen to use? I can’t find it

@jamesseifried207 4 жыл бұрын

Eldritch Knights use the Wizard spell list.

@jamesseifried207 4 жыл бұрын

dnd5e.wikidot.com/fighter:eldritch-knight

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

They pull from the wizard spell list of memory serves

@jamesseifried207 4 жыл бұрын

@@ChancesSpellbook Can confirm.

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesseifried207 Thanks buddy, I appreciate it

@0whatman 4 жыл бұрын

personally spesking I think you should be allowed to use any metamagic with this haha

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Touche haha!

@TaffieTheCapy 2 жыл бұрын

3:32 ...I didn't think about that...

@Darkkmos 4 жыл бұрын

Would the leap distance double with spell sniper I wonder

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

I want to say no, the leap effect isn’t directly linked to the casting distance. That being said, I’d ask your DM about it, and see what they think

@thehiddenninja3428 4 жыл бұрын

I want to say yes, however, since spell sniper affects your ranged spell attacks, and Chaos Bolt says you make more ranged spell attacks. But indeed, always ask your DM

@jarno8608 4 жыл бұрын

You cant Twin it as it has a potentio to target an additional creature

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting interpretation! Although I do see how you could come to that conclusion, I've heard it argued both ways. The biggest problem with Chaos Bolt is the wording behind the mechanics: Technically you only get to target one creature, although there is a potential for more than one attack. I've always allowed it to be twinned personally, in part because the Chaos Bolt spell was created with the Sorcerer in mind; it just seems like it's a waste to me haha!

@jarno8608 4 жыл бұрын

@@ChancesSpellbook there are indeed arguments both ways, I personally interpretate it only way :D

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

@@jarno8608 Haha I really appreciate the feedback regardless, thank you soooo much!

@bigdream_dreambig 4 жыл бұрын

Hmm. I HOPE you can twin it, because then there'd be a reason to hold on to it past Level 2 or 4. Otherwise, Scorching Ray's ability to REALLY target multiple creatures, combined with its higher (albeit more commonly resisted) damage, would make it definitively the better choice.

@jarno8608 4 жыл бұрын

And don't forget that chromatic orb is generally also better dmg wise and that can be twinned, personally as a dm I would allow it to be twinned, but I still believe the basic rules don't allow it To me chaos orb is a weaker spell vs chromatic orb but I'd still choose it if I played a somewhat evil character for its flair

@mudcatjack2036 Жыл бұрын

Just ran a game where we read the spell wrong. Long story short, a sorcerer in the party did over twenty points of damage to a giant spider. Instantly killing it. Make sure to read the description of the spell before assuming all numbers are damage numbers

@eduardodominguez6579 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, I thought you can’t twin chaos bolt cuz it specifically can target a different target

@CurlyHairedRogue 4 жыл бұрын

For the record, I went and did some research: On a normal attack with this, there is a 12.5% chance for the attack to arc to a new target. On a CRIT, there is, according to my source (I am looking into having this checked), a 58.9% chance for the attack to arc. Just some numbers for the lot of ya. It helps to know. ^_^

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you sooo much! I really appreciate it!

@oscarwells3070 4 жыл бұрын

Can I see your math for this, there are some methods for bumping up the chance of hitting to 21/64 and I would like to see what this becomes with a crit.

@CurlyHairedRogue 4 жыл бұрын

Oscar Wells I didn’t do the math sadly, I don’t have any concrete numbers besides the ones fed to me by a member of a discord server. I took his word for it, as I don’t know how to definitively check it.

@thehiddenninja3428 4 жыл бұрын

Depends what method you use to calculate it. By RAW, you roll 2d8 + 1d6, determine damage and whether it bounces, and then deal an additional 2d8+1d6 of the type you already decided to that creature. No more bounces. But there are multiple ways it could be done: The one I think makes the most sense is: You roll 2d8 + 1d6, and apply the damage type out of those two. If it's the same, it hits another target. Then you roll 2d8 + 1d6, and apply the damage type out of those two. If it's the same, it hits another target. So you likely deal 2 different kinds of damage to that target, and it has the potential to split itself into 2 bounces. And if you roll a 20, and the same number on 2d8s, twice (under 0.01% chance), you deserve to have it split in two to then hit 2 targets, and more. I also saw someone suggest rolling all 4 at once and get multiple additional targets based on how many match and which damage type you choose out of the 4 or fewer options. As always, discuss this with your DM when you add this spell to your list.

@THEdeadlynightshade1646 4 жыл бұрын

I had this spell and it ended up rolling damage at 4 8 2 6 18 (ran out of targets) on a goblin troop funny enough the dm thought I was cheating so he rolled the last 2 ended up killing the goblin leader in 1 hit badly injuring the rest on turn 1 lol (the one with 2 damage was injured before the combat)

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Jeez! That's insane!

@danielcruz4960 2 жыл бұрын

As a dm if I have a player using wild magic sorcerer I give this for free and if both d8 I made them roll on the wild magic table as a way to make the table useable more often

@fearsomestm00c0w 2 жыл бұрын

Can't be Twinned because it has the possibility of hitting 2 targets.

@DNKdanil 4 жыл бұрын

When it leaps from Enemy1 to Enemy2, does Enemy1 still get damage? So, you damage both enemies for 1 spell slot? Or maybe the enemy1 avoid all the damage and only the enemy2 gets damage (Because, you know, it's CHAOTIC)?

@ChancesSpellbook 4 жыл бұрын

Both would take damage!

@DNKdanil 4 жыл бұрын

@@ChancesSpellbook okey, thanks!

@0Fyrebrand0 3 жыл бұрын

If you're rolling for damage, it means the initial target has already been hit. It has no chance to leap to a secondary target if the first wasn't already hit.

@DNKdanil 3 жыл бұрын

@@0Fyrebrand0 hmm, yeah, I guess this sounds logic. Thanks!

@ditrixgenesis781 4 жыл бұрын

So basically acid is the lowest damage and thunder is the highest

@franklee3800 3 жыл бұрын

An a DM from the 80's I find this spell is yet another example of the Sorcerer being imbalanced compared to other characters in D & D. When the players are at low levels it seems that the sorcerer is the gluten in combat.