2014 Mercedes CLA 250 4Matic Rear Differential Noise Fix

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DTech Engineering

DTech Engineering

Күн бұрын

In this video I show how I went about figuring out a driveline noise and where it was coming from and what the fix was without playing the guessing game and throwing expensive parts at it. It's a reminder of how to stick to basics and do normal checks.

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@EmptyBox_0
@EmptyBox_0 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much brother, going to get fluid changed in mine. Very professional and slow paced video. Thank you for your time and effort as well to share here.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 10 ай бұрын
Glad it helped, and thank you for watching
@autotainment3867
@autotainment3867 Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem on my A250 sport 4matic 2016 with 100 000 km on it. Thanks to this video I asked the dealer to just change the oil in rear diff and so far the problem is solved, car feels great in corners now and the little kick once stopped by the traffic light also dissappeard. I will update if problem comes back. Paid the dealer 144 eur for this job. Thank You for information in this video, saved me time and money.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
That's awesome and glad to hear it helped your situation get rid of the symptom. 👍
@Munish-os5yc
@Munish-os5yc 4 ай бұрын
Hi , i am having same problem when i stop at traffic it gives little push/kick
@InCognito-ni4gz
@InCognito-ni4gz 9 ай бұрын
I really like your commentary, very interesting. Thanks for creating.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching
@unencumbered
@unencumbered 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of symptoms and soulution using Honda dual pump fluid for rear diffs. Keep up the good work.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! funny you say that, because I had a CRV years ago that I used to daily drive, and it started making a noise in the rear, and once I did the dual pump fluid change, it completely went away! I was amazed and always remind myself of that situation, which is why once I remembered about that and heard the noise on the Benz, is why I decided to check and change the fluid on this one first before any hard parts. Thank you for watching
@Gope1o
@Gope1o 2 жыл бұрын
I have got customer with the same car and same problem.It reminds me for CRV diff which had the same problem few years ago, then I found you video.Thanks
@maker9594
@maker9594 Жыл бұрын
Really such fast and all-comments-responded is a reason to thank you in particular.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
what technical info are you looking for
@maker9594
@maker9594 Жыл бұрын
The factory information sheet that you used to discuss the diff anatomy @14:12 and the workshop manuals and website sources for this vehicle and similar Merks. Thank you once again for rapid reply. And is there any alternative for "Mercedes part number : 002-989-02-03-09, Hypoid Gear Oil"?
@maker9594
@maker9594 Жыл бұрын
@@DTEAuto ?
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
you can use Alldata or identifix for the factory information, and I don't know if there is any other fluid that would work
@maker9594
@maker9594 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@DungVu-sn5ir
@DungVu-sn5ir Жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic sir. that really a good education for me,thx
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that, and thank you for watching
@dougsautoservice7203
@dougsautoservice7203 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing and nice diagnostic technique !
@jurieventer4146
@jurieventer4146 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video. You saved me bug $$$$. Merc suggested to replace the differential.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it helped!
@Eddie-ke6km
@Eddie-ke6km 6 ай бұрын
Same issue here just got a quote for almost 7k on a gla 250 with less than 50k miles on it. I hope this helps
@nil8718
@nil8718 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 cla 250 4 matic and had the same issue, I changed the oil like you said and noise went away completely after 2nd day of driving around. Thanks for the advice and saving me big bucks at the stealership. There diagnostic was expensive and they wanted to change out the whole Differential without even trying the oil. BTW oil needs to be changed after 30,000 miles regardless as part of matenance.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 жыл бұрын
Super glad to hear you got yours fixed as well, and that's crazy how the dealer was wanting to approach that repair, not good look for them . Thank you for watching
@Zulkeyz
@Zulkeyz 2 жыл бұрын
You did a normal oil change or is there a separate oil in the differential ? So confused
@luxiemasks5573
@luxiemasks5573 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zulkeyz differential fluid change
@thisguynigel8311
@thisguynigel8311 Жыл бұрын
I have a the same vehicle 2018 cla250 4Matic. And it’s making a noise. You think a simple differential oil swap will do?
@benwhitehead8218
@benwhitehead8218 4 ай бұрын
Did it work by any chance ?
@64mikecowart
@64mikecowart Жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 gla45 that I’m about to buy a new differential for but I have already changed the fluid and reset the codes but I still have the noise and also get a “4matic unavailable” signal when I launch it
@jornblohme7150
@jornblohme7150 11 ай бұрын
Hallo, ich hatte das gleiche Fehlerbild! Auf dem Rücksitz kann man es beim mitfahren sehr gut in seinem Hintern merken. Fühlt sich in etwa so an als wenn man gegen die Bremse anfährt und diese sich mit leichtem knallen löst. Nur nicht so blechern. Öl habe ich selber getauscht Motul 75W 140 Arbeitszeit in etwa 1/2 Stunde und nach einer am Anfang ruhigen Probefahrt ohne anlernen im Allrad Modus und zu erst stärkerem Fehlerbild für etwa 5 min hat sich eine Normalisierung eingestellt und nach 1/2 Stunde war alles ruhig!
@AlexisHeadley-vw7yc
@AlexisHeadley-vw7yc 2 ай бұрын
Afternoon thank you for sharing. do the noise go away as sooner you change the oil or have to be driving it for a couple of miles?? my 2018 have the noise whenever i turn and exactly what you described send to change the oil but i was told i have to drive it for about 500 miles to check it and make sure it work. any idea?
@andresa7239
@andresa7239 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea where the tire monitor is at (modules)
@maker9594
@maker9594 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing such techniques. Really appreciate. Kindly could you share the technical sheet of this diff?
@MartinHannett_
@MartinHannett_ Жыл бұрын
What mileage was on the vehicle when it came to you? It's crazy. that Mercedes-Benz do not specify any fluid changes on the maintenance schedule for the CLA250 4MATIC but they do state an interval for the CLA45 4MATIC. Never heard of a car with a rear diff that wouldn't't require a fluid change yet Merc state it's lifetime fluid.
@vincentzuhowsky3076
@vincentzuhowsky3076 Жыл бұрын
great video thanks for the info just ran into this at my shop. not much info available on these cars. this also applies to infiniti qx30
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful and that's a good tip on the qx30
@jornblohme7150
@jornblohme7150 11 ай бұрын
Hello, I had the same error picture! In the back seat you can feel it very well in your butt when you ride along. It feels like you're hitting the brake and it pops off. Just not so tinny. I changed the oil myself Motul 75W 140 working time in about 1/2 hour and after an initially quiet test drive without training in all-wheel drive mode and only a stronger error pattern for about 5 minutes, a normalization set in and after 1/2 hour everything was quiet !
@angelestrada3337
@angelestrada3337 2 жыл бұрын
Great job man
@alfredalcantara9146
@alfredalcantara9146 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you , thank you, really thank you... you know how much money I save my self... i bouth the mercedes oil, it was a 105dllrs a quater they told me it takes two and some onces, so i bouth only two but in reallyty takes half a quarter... a soon I change it the noise when off... yessssss tomorrow i will return the other quater to the dealer
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear!
@alexandrupetrache3833
@alexandrupetrache3833 3 жыл бұрын
You Save me, i have a CLA 2017, I have the same annoying noise and I think I have the same problem, it has been heard for about 3 months, no mechanic advised me to change the oil!
@elliotabra3332
@elliotabra3332 2 жыл бұрын
Did change of fluid make the noise stop?
@JayloGe
@JayloGe Жыл бұрын
What oil you guys changed the transmission or regular oil maintenance??
@misterzee5736
@misterzee5736 8 ай бұрын
Did change of fluid make the noise stop?
@benwhitehead8218
@benwhitehead8218 4 ай бұрын
Hi did the oil change make a difference
@alexandrupetrache3833
@alexandrupetrache3833 4 ай бұрын
@@benwhitehead8218 yes, no more noise, you must to change oil at every 80.000km
@djosbun
@djosbun 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the chassis ears in use for this diag, Sadel. I'm curious what the mileage was on the rear differential fluid and what service interval Mercedes recommends for it? Thanks for sharing your skills with us in another great video, Sadel!
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, the vehicle had 57k on it...and I am not totally sure what the recommended interval is from Mercedes to be honest.
@zlatkoez
@zlatkoez 2 жыл бұрын
@@DTEAuto i have the same problem with my 2014 merc cla 250 4matic where is your shop located please i need someone to take a look on my car too. Mercedes dilership just ask me for 6k$
@huntery1
@huntery1 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlatkoez they charged me 10k but i have a warranty thank god
@princesharma-hk6if
@princesharma-hk6if Жыл бұрын
​@@DTEAutohi thanks for the video. Is that possible if I can contact you? I need some help
@indrarai273
@indrarai273 9 ай бұрын
Thankyou for helpful video
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 9 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@cihansonmez8384
@cihansonmez8384 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem I will be taking the car in for them to look at it and will reference your video . By the way is it also possible to dis engage the seleniod were the noise goes away and the car operates as a FWD
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 3 жыл бұрын
I would venture to say that if it is unplugged it will keep it from attempting to activate which would I guess keep the noise from happening, but possibly turn on an error light on the dash. Either way I hope that the fluid change helps to rectify your issue and thank you for watching
@pinchyclarke
@pinchyclarke Ай бұрын
❤❤ Thanks a million
@walterf6273
@walterf6273 2 жыл бұрын
at what speed do you have the problem? i have a similar problem knocking noise only if I am at speed of 0-25mph, in drive mode D1-D2-D3 
 Both if I accelerate, and if i don't accelerate or break. the noise increase in frequency if I turn right or left. no knocking noise in neutral and rear.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember exactly at what speeds, but if you are trying to isolate the rear diff, try unplugging the solenoid and see if the noise goes away. If it does then the noise is occurring when the solenoid is applying the clutches, and so at that time I would at least attempt to do the fluid first. Hope this helps.
@elliotabra3332
@elliotabra3332 2 жыл бұрын
Same problem. Haven’t changed the fluid yet. So to avoid further damage with the 4matic trying to engage, I have disconnected the socket. No noise. Will try the fluid change hopefully it will fix it so I can reconnect the 4matic socket
@gulinnakhan
@gulinnakhan Жыл бұрын
did you solve it?
@troyschoettmer
@troyschoettmer 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell my what type of fluid this is so I can get mine replaced? I'm having same issue.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 3 жыл бұрын
Mercedes part number : 002-989-02-03-09, Hypoid Gear Oil
@troyschoettmer
@troyschoettmer 3 жыл бұрын
@@DTEAuto thank you very much
@JoelAutomotiveInaction
@JoelAutomotiveInaction 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing great techniques applied.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 3 жыл бұрын
thank you Joel
@jacquesmeyer9467
@jacquesmeyer9467 Ай бұрын
Same problem, what is the specs of the oil I should get do do this on my 2014 merc 4matic gla 220
@GEFELICITEERD45
@GEFELICITEERD45 11 күн бұрын
SAE 75W-85
@marwaneamri7724
@marwaneamri7724 2 ай бұрын
Hello i have the same probleme in my gla 220 cdi 4 matic A little kick once stopped by the trafic i change the oil but the problem is not solved The dealer said that i have to change the oil a seconde time to solve the problem What is your opinion ? Help please
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 ай бұрын
typically if you are having the same issue as I did, one oil change should do it, just make sure the reset/calibration is performed
@mobilemechmantim773
@mobilemechmantim773 3 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic sir. I am curious, as someone who is always working on different brands, (you could think of me as an independent) how do you charge fairly to yourself and the customer on an issue like this? I am always curious about the business side of being an owner/technician and wonder sometimes if I had to change up how I make a living, could I make it on my own? Is it a case of I charge X amount per hour and you pay for however long it takes to find the issue? That seems fair to me, but customers tend to distrust people in our trade. I have been out of the public service game for 20 years, and I honestly don't know . I maintain a fleet of heavy equipment and light duty trucks for a company, so I never have to worry about customer relations (except for my equipment operators). Anyway, nice catch and I hope to see more and more of these in the future.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 3 жыл бұрын
I would say that yes that would be a good guideline, charge your diagnostic time, the the repair time , and then add materials and such. And to try and keep it as close to that with most of your work that way you have consistency when charging. But it all becomes harder to keeping it simple when you have odd ball diag stuff, it's hard to always profit when doing odd ones, but for me at least, it's more important to get to the end goal of reaching a fix that no other shop did so that in doing so it helps to gain and or retain a customer and at that point also gain their trust. Once you have their trust from the good work you give them, then that's when you begin to profit because of repeat business without question. I hope this gives some insight or at least food for thought, and also thank you for watching
@mobilemechmantim773
@mobilemechmantim773 3 жыл бұрын
@@DTEAuto Thank you for the thoughtful response!
@bobreece
@bobreece 3 ай бұрын
Was the noise just a knocking or a whinning noise? as mine is whinning but MB is clueless or seems it so far.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 3 ай бұрын
mine was more of knocking sorta, but I would still try the fluid service for a whine if I was you.
@piaggiozip2001
@piaggiozip2001 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the vide m8
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍 and thanks for watching!
@vijayraj-xg5es
@vijayraj-xg5es Жыл бұрын
Where are you located. i need my car looked at.
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
www.DTEAuto.com
@upnorthviking823
@upnorthviking823 Жыл бұрын
I want to delete de rear diff and driveshafts to make it fwd only. I never had awd even the crvs i had back in the day i deleted them instead of replacing the rear diffs... Do you think its doable on these cla. Im thinking of leaving the diff selenoid plugged in so the computer still sees it instead of trowing error code? Need your input on this... Do the rear axles go thru the wheel bearings? If yes i will just leave the outter part of the cv joint there to hold the bearings together just like i was doing with the crvs.. I paid low money for the 4matic. I love fwd better. Thank you!
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
I am not sure if delete of the rear drive will work on these, I guess all you do is try, but I know just how much everything is monitored that I'm not sure how it will act.
@FellipeCampos100
@FellipeCampos100 Жыл бұрын
what or oil used for a rear transmission?
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
factory Mercedes rear differential fluid
@ahmedosman6734
@ahmedosman6734 7 ай бұрын
Is the fluid you used SAE 75W-85 or SAE 85w-90? For the cla250 2014?
@ahmedosman6734
@ahmedosman6734 7 ай бұрын
And how many littres. I hope to get reply from your goodself as I am in the UAE and the garage asking fancy amount of money
@shahquadri1694
@shahquadri1694 Жыл бұрын
Hi there excellent diagnostic. Can you tell me your location so that I can get me fixed by you. You know your stuff so well. Thanks
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
www.dteauto.com/
@naturecomedy8780
@naturecomedy8780 9 ай бұрын
I have changed the oil but still the noise is still there can you pls help me
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 9 ай бұрын
did you use the factory oil and run the calibration?
@kezy2695
@kezy2695 6 ай бұрын
@@DTEAuto how to run the calibration?
@sbusisomzelemu8040
@sbusisomzelemu8040 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Do you know if the GLA 220 cdi has the same differential?
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if it is the same, but a big clue to check if it's the same is to look for the 2 wire solenoid located at the rear differential. If you have one then it is possible to have a similar set up as this one. Hope this helps and thank you for watching
@chrystalbouvier2328
@chrystalbouvier2328 2 жыл бұрын
@@DTEAuto where is your shop
@IWiLLBeTheDEATH
@IWiLLBeTheDEATH Жыл бұрын
Is there a contact line where I can contact you?
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto Жыл бұрын
www.DTEAuto.com
@elliotabra3332
@elliotabra3332 2 жыл бұрын
I have just disconnected the 4matic socket from the rear differential to save it from further damage, before changing the oil… Hope to change the fluid soon. Now the 4matic is just a FWD
@jackziro9855
@jackziro9855 Жыл бұрын
Is it okay to drive like that? Any updates?
@invo2k4
@invo2k4 Жыл бұрын
Hello. You solve the problem ( i have the same )
@invo2k4
@invo2k4 Жыл бұрын
??
@davidaleixo3685
@davidaleixo3685 8 ай бұрын
is that even an option? did you fixed it by changing just the oil?
@davidaleixo3685
@davidaleixo3685 8 ай бұрын
hi! Is this diff the same as I have in my 2014 gla 220d 4matic? Got a call from my mech saying the clac clac noise when turning the steering (in movement) is coming from the diff.. he just talked about replacing it, not changing the oil… would it work in this case? Thank you
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 8 ай бұрын
I would definitely try the fluid before replacing it.
@davidaleixo3685
@davidaleixo3685 8 ай бұрын
@@DTEAuto thank you so much for replying!! Talked with the mech today - he said my 2014 GLA is "permanent" 4WD - he said that there isn't any clutch or whatsoever which I think isn't true because of what I got from this video. I've learned that a lot of owners are complaining about this clicking sound but it can be misdiagnosed when it's a PTO failure or even a driveshaft bearing failure - have you check it as well? I've also found another owner saying there is a breather that gets clogged which stresses the system - wondering if this was your case that a oil change fixed it?
@selahattinsemizoglu7282
@selahattinsemizoglu7282 6 ай бұрын
Where do you live? Can you help me?
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 6 ай бұрын
ohio
@1993Akin
@1993Akin 10 ай бұрын
I have a CLA 250 Sport 4Matic, corner and accelerating when standing still gives a pounding sound from the back. Will this perhaps fix my issue?
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 10 ай бұрын
I would say there is a good chance it could take care of the issue
@1993Akin
@1993Akin 10 ай бұрын
@@DTEAuto yea apparantly these 4matics use a electrohydraulic clutch. Found a company that can replace it or even clean it. Replacing it cost 800+ which they say problem goes away or clean it around 350+ which can also help the problem but no guarantee. Both methods they change the oil, thinking about doing the clean only + oil
@parth7092
@parth7092 6 ай бұрын
@@1993Akin What company did you find that replaces or cleans the diff? Mine is having the same issue.
@1993Akin
@1993Akin 6 ай бұрын
@@parth7092 I live in the Netherlands, and i found one here. The guys fixed it in 1 hour, there is a electronic clutch in the diff which needed replacement. It fixed my problem directly also a oil changed happend.
@parth7092
@parth7092 6 ай бұрын
@@1993Akin Do you know the part number for the electronic clutch? I will tell my mechanic to order and replace.
@christianvazquez3616
@christianvazquez3616 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same issue with a 2015 GLA
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 жыл бұрын
As in my case and as I've been told since posting this video, it seems the fluid change does rectify the issue most of the time. Give it a try, thanks for watching
@serventofthedeen5885
@serventofthedeen5885 2 жыл бұрын
@@DTEAuto hi there. Could u pls tell me which fluid it is. Much appreciated
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes part number : 002-989-02-03-09, Hypoid Gear Oi
@alfredalcantara9146
@alfredalcantara9146 Жыл бұрын
Español te explico si andas buscando que tu mercedes hace un ruido que truena y no saves porque ... usualmente los allwelldrive hacen ese ruido enfadoso... cambiale el aceite del diferencial pero ponle el original que vende el dealer y en cuanto se lo cambias el ruido se va.... garantisado.. ya que el aceite se adelgasa demasiado y pierde su viscosidad es por eso que el ruido se wscucha mucho cuando esta frio, pero el nuevo haceite tiene todo la viscosidad nueva que luego luego empiesa a trabajar.. esto ws por si
@leodanisdieguez7505
@leodanisdieguez7505 Жыл бұрын
gracias amigo. tengo ese ruido hace mucho tiempo y pense que se había dañado el diferencial completo. aun sigo así con ese golpeteo. espero que con el cambio de fluido vuelva a la normalidad. acabo de comprarlo.
@hectorsolis9221
@hectorsolis9221 4 ай бұрын
@@leodanisdieguez7505mañana le cambian el aceite en la MB del diferencial , espero que con eso quede , les aviso Tengo un Gla250 2017
@AlexisHeadley-vw7yc
@AlexisHeadley-vw7yc 2 ай бұрын
@@hectorsolis9221 pudo resolverlo?
@jwest7369
@jwest7369 3 жыл бұрын
I bet this is the same thing that my 2014 cla 4matic has right now!
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully so , since it's a simple "fix" , thanks for watching
@jwest7369
@jwest7369 2 жыл бұрын
@@DTEAuto That is exactly what it was. I must thank you for this video!!! You’ve probably saved many people a lot of money. Cheers!!
@allisonvalentine1699
@allisonvalentine1699 2 жыл бұрын
I have a '14 CLA as well and I have a noise that no one can figure out - it reminds me of a spark plug issue sound and it seems to get faster as I accelerate and it slows as I go slower. But it's not the spark plugs. Unfortunately I can't hear the sound on this video :(
@AlexisHeadley-vw7yc
@AlexisHeadley-vw7yc 2 ай бұрын
Afternoon thank you for sharing. do the noise go away as sooner you change the oil or have to be driving it for a couple of miles?? my 2018 have the noise whenever i turn and exactly what you described send to change the oil but i was told i have to drive it for about 500 miles to check it and make sure it work. any idea?
@DTEAuto
@DTEAuto 2 ай бұрын
it should almost start working properly if the fluid was the issue, make sure that it gets reset/calibrated afterwards
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Дураки на дороге
Рет қаралды 1,8 МЛН
Наткнулся на заброшенный гараж🤨
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