2016 Nissan Leaf Range Test: from 95% to 7%

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AvtoWow

AvtoWow

5 жыл бұрын

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Got a chance to take the 30kW Nissan Leaf for another range test, this time with more ideal conditions. Mostly the same route as before, I managed to get just over 70 miles of range and around 9 miles remaining with 114 miles on the gauge in the beginning.
Could the range be better? Absolutely.

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@davidtonkin5936
@davidtonkin5936 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same Leaf. I can drive from my home to 14 miles away and still have the same estimated miles I left home with. I drive with it in B mode, (a double click in drive mode, heavy regen.) Only use heated seats and heated steering wheel. Light on the throttle.
@tommypopov3449
@tommypopov3449 5 жыл бұрын
Wow!! I’ve been to that exact charging station a few weeks ago. Nice video mate!
@AvtoWow
@AvtoWow 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy!
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
Great video , thanks. Tested mine, struggled with 70 but just did it
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 3 жыл бұрын
in eco or out of eco?
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 3 жыл бұрын
@@cageybee7221 Eco, but it was a decent time in the year which has a big effect. It was in eco.. I have tried the same trip and could not get 70 miles from it, more like 60 miles at best. But there is always somewhere to grab a quick charge.Thanks to cov 19 mine is still in the drive so i never pass my text so im not what im gonna get when ready. But yes don't expect amazing range, if you need to use anything like air con ect, it will be much less.
@be236
@be236 5 жыл бұрын
Nice... I have Nissan LEAF 30kWh as well... fun to watch your experience is quite similar to mine... I find that driving up a slight incline on the freeway uses more power bubbles more than speed does, but i try to keep around 60mph on freeway to keep the range as long as possible...
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 3 жыл бұрын
uphill takes more power than level (and especially downhill) movement, because normally the car can coast on momentum at speed needing less power to maintain speed, but if gravity is actively countering the momentum it needs to put full power into movement.
@jestronixhanderson9898
@jestronixhanderson9898 4 жыл бұрын
Great short haul car :) 30km round trip for work and most I do is 80klms on average for weekend stuff. Use leafspy if your buying a leaf, take on a test drive and look for sagging cells, if the owner has charged it up , all the cells will be balanced and look good. Go for a hard drive in it, work it a bit and look at the max cell drop, 50-100mv is fine . SOH and HX is key. I found 30kwh models with the same actual KWh as good condition 24s. Owners were asking 30% more price for the 30s yet only had the same as cheaper good health 24s. Eg 10bar 30 is a 11-12 bar 24. Not sure why Nissan sold the 30kwh , 6 kWh more isn’t ground breaking.
@Bruno-my9uf
@Bruno-my9uf Жыл бұрын
Finnaly a good review
@blaccroyal1
@blaccroyal1 4 жыл бұрын
I live like a mile from your destination lol Nice to see a local!
@YamanKaytaz
@YamanKaytaz 4 жыл бұрын
My 2016 Nissan Leaf is 30 kWh with 10 bars now (77% SOH) but I’m practically getting 180 km from 100% to 6% battery, with mixed driving on open road and otherwise. It is possible to attain that and more once you get better at coasting and driving more efficiently. Not slowly, just efficiently. I drive with eco mode off btw. That said, I’m in New Zealand and the temperature these days is early autumn, not that cold. Almost spring like.
@moony2703
@moony2703 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@Adam40642
@Adam40642 4 жыл бұрын
How many KILOWATTS does a full charge consume? (From 0% to 100%)
@YamanKaytaz
@YamanKaytaz 4 жыл бұрын
My 30kwh 2016 lead usually gives me an estimated range of 186 km (115 miles) on a full charge with eco mode off. I only have 10 bars left. Usually that estimation is accurate, but only if I drive mostly on flat roads, be they open roads or internal ones. Obviously if your route is hilly and has lots of climb then your range will be a lot less than estimated.
@Omar-cu3nl
@Omar-cu3nl 2 жыл бұрын
How do you get 115 miles on your Nissan leaf I only get 71 miles on 100 percent
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 3 жыл бұрын
As a not Leaf owner, I was anticipating some kWh readout at the end of the video? Especially as you practiced some serious hypermiling en route, which is how I drive most of the time too. Maybe not All is lost: I get 1 mile Per %, as you do, however I have a 20kwh battery, so that is 160Wh/mile (from the battery, not the Charger), so what size battery is in your Leaf?
@flolou8496
@flolou8496 9 ай бұрын
I wonder what the future of the CHADEMO public station's are in my area?
@PaulSmith-gb3ke
@PaulSmith-gb3ke 3 жыл бұрын
And here is the problem I’ve been watching your speedometer and you’ve gone from 70 miles an hour to 56 miles an hour so you can’t stay at the speed limit that is a massive issue
@pageseven1792
@pageseven1792 4 жыл бұрын
How many average miles/kwh were you getting? I have a 2015 24kwh Leaf and I seem to be able to get somewhere around 4.2-4.5 mi/kwh. But I live in a warmer city area and don't do much high-speed highway driving.
@flolou8496
@flolou8496 9 ай бұрын
minute 4:03 ??? very strange showing 114 miles potential, when the car's highest trim for potential range in the SV or SL trims is less than 110 miles according to Nissan Leaf's own specs:
@marcgrondin65
@marcgrondin65 3 жыл бұрын
As I understand it (in the states) the speed (upper) limit is usually 70 or 75 .. however nothing prevents you from going at a reasonable 60 :: which would greatly enhance you autonomy. Also remember to pre-heat your car : to be using the wall/charger current instead of the car's battery. -> also, if you know you are to travel longer distances : make sure you charge to 100% (not 95%) : and plan your recharges (distance to, where, available charger & types).
@purplepenguin43
@purplepenguin43 7 ай бұрын
depends on where you live, in some parts of the country doing 75 on the highway will get you rear ended.
@marcgrondin65
@marcgrondin65 7 ай бұрын
@@purplepenguin43 so what you're saying is that in your area just like mine people have no qualms about not obeying the speed limit. Here people are going 120 in in 100. It will only slow down if they see cops.
@FutureReverberations
@FutureReverberations 3 жыл бұрын
AC off... but heating on? AC and heating are not the same thing.
@flolou8496
@flolou8496 11 ай бұрын
Now approaching the 8,000 price range in 2024, but a risky purchase for much of the SouthWest due to in ability to cool down making the car risy to drive from May to September (you could risk battery damage driving this car when it's over 100 degrees)
@bluetrepidation
@bluetrepidation 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see 5+ year old electric cars in the used market. Should open up an opportunity for people who can't afford a new car. New isn't always better.
@jazzd3552
@jazzd3552 4 жыл бұрын
Very true. I’m looking into getting one. They are so much cheaper than gas used cars. You can find a good electric car with low mileage and all of the bells & whistles for less than 12,000.
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 3 жыл бұрын
it's a great deal because nissan reworked the leaf and released a newer version a couple years ago, so lots of people upgraded and dumped perfectly fine older models onto the market.
@baronvonchickenpants6564
@baronvonchickenpants6564 3 жыл бұрын
Is that with the heater on?
@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs
@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs 3 жыл бұрын
Good question, I think the heater was on but not all the time because the front windshield would fog/frost.
@viralarray
@viralarray Ай бұрын
They made Nissan Leafs with 30kw battery packs available in North America? How are you getting 114 miles on a full charge? Which battery do you have the 24kw or the 30kw?
@cascadian19
@cascadian19 4 жыл бұрын
I commute about 30 miles to work and have fast chargers at my work. Would you recommend this car for my situation? Neat video
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 4 жыл бұрын
Not the video creator but I would absolutely recommended it. I bought my first EV, a used 30kwh Leaf about a month ago and have so far never regretted it. I'd love to have chargers at my workplace. My only issue is, like the creator said at the end, it does drain the battery much faster if you do anything above about 70mph. I tend to stick to around 65, even though the national speed limit here in the UK is 70.
@simonkastberg8302
@simonkastberg8302 4 жыл бұрын
If you decide on buying a Leaf remember that the battery is not built for to many fast charges. it does not have a good cooling system and it can damage the battery if you use a fast charger to frequently.
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
@@simonkastberg8302 It's fine as it's stops at 80%
@sheepcute
@sheepcute 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanandconnielast No, it's not. battery still gets too hot and does not get balanced when rapid charged. Too many rapid charges rapidly reduces battery SOH.
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
@@sheepcute I rapid charged twice the other day - Its never went up from 4 bars. The battery reduces rapidly with poor temp management. Its all about temps from I have seen. Its winter where i'm at almost so its cold, maybe that's why its not effecting me. What i find more concerning is the fact i have 12 bars and only get about 60 miles happy from a 30 KW tenka
@c.callanan4008
@c.callanan4008 4 жыл бұрын
I have this car also. It's all about heat management in my experience. Even in the cold Irish winter, 0 to 5 degrees celcius, I'm getting up to 130km or maybe 150km at a push. I never turn on the car heater or the ac. Instead I opt for the heated seats and steering, which don't appear to affect the range at all. I use the air blower (again, make sure the heater light is off) to keep the windows clear, usually switching it on and off as it can make the air in the car very cold. I also recommend driving around 90kph or less. I only do this when I need the longer range by the way. Most of the time I'm happy to use the heater as you would in a normal car, but sometimes you just need all of the range. Warning: wear warm socks and plenty of layers around the core
@xchopp
@xchopp 4 жыл бұрын
I concur. We try to use the heated seats in our 2016 e-Golf SE as the heating just drunks the juice. The AC is super-efficient though, only uses 1 - 3 miles of range. Blankets and thermal socks are useful!
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 3 жыл бұрын
the heated seats and wheel only need to heat a few square feet of material, while the heater has to heat hundreds of square feet of air and replenish loss through the window glass. it's easy to see why it uses way less power.
@viralarray
@viralarray Ай бұрын
​@@xchoppBuy one of those heated jackets with its own portable battery pack to wear in the car. Problem solved.
@GeorgeStar
@GeorgeStar 4 жыл бұрын
So in cold weather you can expect around 75mi range? Pretty disappointing for 30kW.
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 3 жыл бұрын
If your commute is longer than that why look at this type of vehicle?
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 3 жыл бұрын
It's extremely disappointing especially considering that the car estimated 115 miles. And no excuses about going up and down Hills, the computer was giving driving directions so it's presumably knew where it was and that the roads on the route were not flat as a pancake. Most people in America have to use air conditioning a good part of the year, either for air cooling or to assist in defrosting in Sub-Zero temperatures. I shudder to think what the range would be in a large part of the Midwest or in the South where it is somewhat hilly but very hot and humid much of the year, maybe this wasn't the right car to put on the American Market except for a few congested cities with very mild climates.
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 3 жыл бұрын
@@samusaran7317 a better question is why would they even try to sell a car that would not meet the basic minimum requirements of the average American buyer? They stopped making other vehicles that had somewhat niche interest, like large four-door sedans or large two-door luxury coupes, even for those willing to pay a premium for them. Several American car makers have stopped making cars altogether in favor of boring SUV boxes. And this car appeals to an even smaller demographic then a Lincoln Town Car or a Ford Thunderbird might. So why even bother to produce it or sell it in America if there aren't the customers to make it worth anybody's while?
@samusaran7317
@samusaran7317 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jack_Stafford You boldly assume a fair majority like bland crossovers... Explain the hype over lucid air if people dont buy 4 door luxury boats??
@darkenergy5686
@darkenergy5686 4 жыл бұрын
We have a 2016 30kWh Leaf with 18,000 miles. It just spent 3 months in the shop due to a bad battery cell. For us it's only an around town car. I never take it any farther than 40 miles from home base. A great grocery getter, but that's about all.
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
Not really - I bought a 30kw 2016 Tekna. Been going 80 mile trips with non-issue. Then do an 85% charge and back again. It goes far easily enough.
@darkenergy5686
@darkenergy5686 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanandconnielast Yeah, 80 miles sounds about right. 40 miles there and 40 miles back. If I were to drive 80 miles in any direction from my house, I'd be in the middle of nowhere and preparing to call a tow truck.
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkenergy5686 I see - Im in Mk and only been to London in it. I was wrong anyhow, it was 70 miles but i was using heating to keep then windows from steaming. Yeah if you need to get to 70 miles and then charge and come back, it can work. Depends where you are at really. Much of the UK has plenty charge points.
@darkenergy5686
@darkenergy5686 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanandconnielast I'm in Kentucky and Chademo DCFC are few and far between. If it wasn't for Electrify America we probably wouldn't have any Chademo in the state. And the ones we do have are single and about 100 miles apart. When I need to do any real road tripping, we take the Model S.
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkenergy5686 Looks like an EV might not be the best choice mate. Sounds like your in the sticks
@ahmedahmed-kf5ol
@ahmedahmed-kf5ol 4 жыл бұрын
I put the air condition off....put the car in eco-mode and installed bike pedals...let's see if we get 60 miles of range out of the 200 miles promised while driving not harder than 55 mph downhill and 2 mph uphill!!!Warnig ...your range will drop to 20 miles when it is freezing and you put the aircondition on when it is only minus 20 degrees outside
@spacedoutET
@spacedoutET 4 жыл бұрын
Very accurate. I have a little concern regarding the 30kwh leafs. I bought mine with only 4000 miles on clock, so battery is pretty new. I noticed through doing some tests lately, I focused on miles per kwh. I achieved 4.5. now if you have a 30kwh or very close, then even at 4.0 miles per kwh should be 120. Mine was 4.5, so should be there to higher. I managed 99.3 miles with 8% left. So I'd say it would have been 105 at end. Interesting after another test, I got the car down to about 1% battery left, just made it home. I charge for 4 hours which I find 1 hour gives me 25%. So I got to 100% battery from very low. Yet it put in 23.6 kWh to get to 100%. But that's is not a full 30. It's almost like I bought a 24kwh version to be honest. It's a little odd. I know they say they can degrade, but a virtually new bettery should not be 6kwh less that quick for sure. Otherwise it would be dead in like 20000 miles lol
@einblock1840
@einblock1840 4 жыл бұрын
Bit late to reply, but even although it's a 30kWh battery. Not all of that is available to use. They keep reserve at the top and bottom that can never be used to help protect the battery. Although I assume charging is not 100% efficient (e.g. heat etc.) so maybe 22kWh of your 23.6kWh actually stayed in the battery, which does still seem a bit low.
@peterk.4266
@peterk.4266 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2012 Nissan Leaf, only 4 bars left on this thing. At best we can get 22 miles out of it, needs to be charged every single night. My commute is 7.2 miles each way (goodness, I never knew that prior to getting an EV). Nissan wants ridiculous money for a battery replacement (no way I will pay $9,000). It`s a BAD deal all around, and somehow I still LOVE it lol. It ruins you for life as far as IC cars go. I literally don`t want to enter my formerly precious Dodge charger, because it`s a Flintstones era concept. EV is the way to go.
@YamanKaytaz
@YamanKaytaz 4 жыл бұрын
Peter K. May you get rich enough to afford a much better EV 😊
@AdamB83
@AdamB83 4 жыл бұрын
My 2013 has 7 bars, I will be using the LEAF full time soon my commute is 22 miles min it makes it now even with A/C but for how much longer :( Est. for new batter here its $7k still to much BUT I might be about to get an 2016-2017 for like under 5k with a healthy battery in a few years :) Also this person on a Facebook group in CA got some of the internal battery's replaced now there back to 90% all 12 bars that is the way to go for about $2,700 , but I would need to tow my LEAF to CA lol
@GavinScrimgeour
@GavinScrimgeour 3 жыл бұрын
@Peter K. How long does it take to charge your car with only 4 bars?
@peterk.4266
@peterk.4266 3 жыл бұрын
@@GavinScrimgeour hi there, it takes about 6 hours to charge it to 100% (I don`t do 80% at this point). Still going "strong" lol. My mileage hasn`t dropped by now, I guess it dropped what it could drop sort of thing, so still about 22 miles at best. I`ll ride it out until it won`t go at all I figured.
@GavinScrimgeour
@GavinScrimgeour 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterk.4266 thanks for replying, have the charge times decreased with the reduced capacity?
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and proves exactly why I won't be buying a EV anytime soon......claimed range and actual range are nothing like each other.
@AvtoWow
@AvtoWow 4 жыл бұрын
From my experience, the first gen leaf had this issue the most. Other EVs like Spark EV, Bolt EV, were spot on
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvtoWow It's a real shame to be honest because I have a 110 mile daily motorway commute, and also need a car with a big enough boot to take the dog in, but no EV vehicle in my price range can meet these prerequisites.
@AvtoWow
@AvtoWow 4 жыл бұрын
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOneUsed Bolt EV's are one of the best deals right now. They have a fair amount of space, and driving range. You could also get a 2nd hand Model S in the low 30's.
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvtoWow many thanks.... I'll take a look.....
@Supernaut2000
@Supernaut2000 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2017 Leaf SV with 22K miles on it for $11,200. Love it!
@azspotfree
@azspotfree 3 жыл бұрын
And thats 30kw? that sucks, no wonder they are getting killed by Tesla
@kedduff1814
@kedduff1814 4 жыл бұрын
range estimate was 30miles off and that's with ECO mode on and AC off. Thats bad because if he had turned on his heater then that range would have dropped another 10 or 20 effectively putting the car at 50 miles of total range, if your doing highway driving in cold weather.
@karenkordes2210
@karenkordes2210 2 жыл бұрын
Despite their limitations electric cars are way more efficient than internal combustion engines. My father was an engineer. An internal combustion engine is basically a heat Engine only 15%Of the energy from the gasoline gets to the rear wheels the rest is heat. Putting this in perspective for every $100 of gasoline you put in The tank you spend $85 to heat The air Sounds pretty dumb to me
@stephenfrench1060
@stephenfrench1060 3 жыл бұрын
F FFF the music i wanted to hear the car
@michaelggriffiths
@michaelggriffiths 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, *awful music*
@johnsavage6628
@johnsavage6628 3 жыл бұрын
This proves the limited nature of electric cars.
@AvtoWow
@AvtoWow 3 жыл бұрын
It's a start, given it a few years.
@landrewmackinnon4888
@landrewmackinnon4888 2 жыл бұрын
As a primary car when you have a spare ICE car, this car is fantastic. No fuss, easy way to reduce waste.
@davidsherburne8429
@davidsherburne8429 5 жыл бұрын
Wow not good. Strictly a go to store or a kid to school car. Not good at all.
@AvtoWow
@AvtoWow 5 жыл бұрын
It could just be the cold and windy weather during this test. I'll be testing a Leaf during warmer weather soon.
@MitchellKuykendall
@MitchellKuykendall 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah It's pretty shit. I have a 16 SL and I'm about to trade it in. After 41k miles I can go about 65 miles or so highway before its about dead. I also have dropped 2 battery health bars as well, but Nissan's GOM software is terrible as shown in this video.
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
@@MitchellKuykendall Sounds like you done the battery in to be fair. Most users will still be getting good range after 3 to 4 years of use.
@alanandconnielast
@alanandconnielast 4 жыл бұрын
80miles isn't school run ranges.
@MitchellKuykendall
@MitchellKuykendall 4 жыл бұрын
@@alanandconnielast How would this be my fault for the battery degrading so badly? I live in Texas and the car sat on the lot new for a year before I bought it. It's not my fault Nissan is inept at making a battery pack.
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