2017 BMW RnineT Scrambler Review

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7 жыл бұрын

This is my first impressions review of the 2017 BMW RnineT Scrambler. I was very impressed with the looks of the R9T variants when I saw them at the NEC show back in November so I was very eager to try this one out - my favourite looking variant, the Scrambler. How does it compare to the Triumph Scrambler and Ducati Scrambler? Stay tuned to find out.....
Many thanks to the fabulous chaps at Bahnstormer in Maidenhead for letting me borrow the bike to review.
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@entee123 7 жыл бұрын

The view through the mirrors looked amazingly vibe free and clear...better than any bike I've ever rode

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah the mirrors worked OK if looking a bit stalky (as they often do on these retro styles bikes).....

@philo2128 4 жыл бұрын

Would be great if you could revisit the scrambler, maybe this time with street tyres.

@TylerG7777 7 жыл бұрын

I've taken the R Nine T Scrambler for two test rides now, here in South Carolina USA. I thought the bike was excellent. I had read some of the reviews stating that the steering felt heavy. I didn't find it that way at all. Granted, I haven't ridden the R Nine T classic yet. But I found the steering to be very responsive. Also, I didn't mind the dual sport tires at all. I think the people who are uncomfortable with them, have not ridden on dual sport tires before. I have Heidenau K60 knobby tires on my BMW 1200 GS, and I love them too. I love the feel and sound of knobby tires, as well as their capabilities. In the end, I think the Scrambler is a fantastic looking bike, rides great, and I love the sound too. Thanks for your review. From across the pond, may I say, well done.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

I agree the Scrambler looks the business - as it happens I just got back from riding the R9T Racer, now that's a BMW retro that does handle (in my opinion of course, it's all a matter of personal taste I guess). Thanks for stopping by - TMF

@jeffcollins3040 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, I purchased a new triumph scrambler and had the arrow exhaust fitted last October. No regrets in any department, it really is a fun bike with a great sound. Happy new year, regards Jeff.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

I love the Trumpet Scrambler, if I had a bigger garage then I may well have bought one by now. That is one bike that surprised me how much I liked it...nice one. Thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF

@jamesm9312 7 жыл бұрын

+ TMF Took one of these out for a test ride and instantly loved everything about it and purchased one on the spot. Everything you mentioned is valid and much of that old character riding experience is what I like the most. It's simple pure biking. Many riders today only have experience of silky smooth highly engineered and electronically assisted machines and going back to basics can come as a bit of a shook but for us older bikers this bike recaptures that old school look and feel perfectly. I love it for what it is and represents and I'm sure others will do likewise.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+James M That's very interesting James, glad we concur on the facts if not the result! Thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF

@TylerG7777 7 жыл бұрын

+james M I totally agree with you. I love the way the bike rides and I love the way it looks too. I'll be getting one very soon.

@housydoing 5 жыл бұрын

i'm a third for James's opinion. I just bought one and a large part of the selling point was the roughness of the aircooled boxer, and the perceived heaviness of the front end setup. I'm coming from a world of rigid Harleys & vintage Triumphs, so anything new feels like a twitchy spaceship to me. I owned an '06 Thruxton for a couple of years and with the exception of its sketchy featherlight feeling (to me) front end, that thing put me to sleep ... too docile and smooth for my tastes.

@steffydog 7 жыл бұрын

Another top quality review, I won't be rushing out to order one either. Loved the two comments, clearly our minds were on the same page, the filtering, doh! And the lady in the car park he he. Keep well, ride safely TMF.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+steffydog1 Thank you steffydog1...always good to have you along...you too - TMF

@ChristopherD-M Жыл бұрын

Hi Andy, I came looking for this video this morning, as North Oxford Garages have just leant me an R9T Scrambler whilst my GSA is in for service. I wondered if I was missing something, as after an hour on the R9T, I couldn't wait to get off the thing. I think you said "underwhelmed", which is the perfect word. I too had tingly hands, the suspension is way too hard... I'm not sure I 'get it' at all. However, you were the 'go-to resource' I chose! Take care mate, Chris

@NickStaib 7 жыл бұрын

Another great (honest) review. And loved that 'let's not get distracted' moment... 😂😂

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+Nick Staib Thank you Nick, this type of distraction is a constant threat I find......

@shanea60 7 жыл бұрын

Another great review, thank you. Looking forward to testing the R Nine T Scr, Urban GS and the Triumph Street scrambler when we get them in Australia.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

So when are they due down there Shane? I didn't realise they hadn't permeated down yet???

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Hope it's worth the wait!

@lomate1963 7 жыл бұрын

Love the new intro merry Christmas dude that's lovely looking bike 👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you lomate - it's actually a very old intro re-introduced as I was getting comments that the fancy intro I had was too long (and the stats from Google backed that up)....Happy New year to you - TMF

@PerfectlyNormalBeast 10 ай бұрын

Best color combo. I plan to get the brushed aluminum (base), then get a dark brown leather solo seat. Luggage rack behind that. It should look great

@andrewtofts7884 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks TMF, another open and honest insight into a different bike. Would be interesting if you are able to get a ride on the cafe racer version of the R Nine T as I thought that looked stunning at the NEC. Cheers, Andy

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Tofts Yeah I'm sure any of the road oriented machines (or a scrambler with road tyres) would ride significantly better. Other than at the NEC I've not seen the cafe racer version, the chances of getting a ride on one are pretty slim I reckon!

@johnheaney414 7 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. I rode the standard R Nine T while my GS was being serviced and agree with your comments. Wasnt entirely sure about it but like the look of the Scrambler. There is an option of a taller seat which may help me, but it would totally be a second bike

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Oh for sure this is a second or third bike, a thing to play with on a sunny Sunday. Love the way it looks, just not the way this particular one handles. I think the tyres were very likely the main culprit....

@Phil480 7 жыл бұрын

Nice review, I look forward to trying this one myself.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

I don't think you'll be chopping your Triumph in any time soon for one Phil! Good to hear from you...all the best for 2017...TMF

@piggymito 6 жыл бұрын

Loving the videos dude! I bought a pure last summer after testing loads of "modern retro" bikes. Funny how one mans negative is another mans positive, I absolutely love the vibey motor and the way shakes and rattles! To me it feels old but performs up to date and that's exactly what I wanted. My other bike is a old k75 and it's super smooth so I didn't want something similar. Anyway keep up the good work buddy!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it's a lovely machine - the particular one I rode was spoiled by the knobbly tyres, I've since ridden other R9T variants and loved them....

@piggymito 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah TBH I went for the pure with spoked wheels and put a scrambler seat on it, more or less the same looks but 17" rims and road tyres.

@Banditmanuk 7 жыл бұрын

Enjoyable review. Think the tyre issue is common issue on a range of bikes from all the manufacturers. The faux off road tyres fitted as OE on the taller trail and scrambler type machines is for me style over practically. I once owned a Tiger 800 XC bought for touring but not off road; never could get confident with the road handling of that bike.....a combination of the large front wheel and the tyres. My advice to anyone looking for good road handling is go for 17" road wheels and road rubber. If you do fancy a bit of off road action buy a small CRF or WR250 which you accept will be compromised on the road but will be brilliant off.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

I do have a CRF as it happens (which is great fun off-road) and I have fitted uber-knobbly tyres on it - strange thing is on the CRF they don't make any noise on the road and the handling is just fine! Must be something to do with heavier bikes/wider knobblies being and issue....thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF

@johnDukemaster 7 жыл бұрын

As usuall, a very informant reveiw. Thank you! :-)

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome...

@I_am_Thursday 4 жыл бұрын

You are not wrong about the steering. I thought it was me so took one out again yesterday. So heavy to turn for some reason and really hard work on the roads which this was supposedly designed for. I don't believe it's just down to the tyres either. Ultimately there are much better scramblers out there if not quite as pretty.

@MrDGS999 7 жыл бұрын

Hi TMF, Nice video. I totally agree with your thoughts having rode this bike a few weeks ago. I also rode the bike with cross spokes and "off road tyres". Handling was slow and undefined. Ok on the move, but a mini roundabout was a challenge. I rode in the dry and did not inspire confidence for wet weather riding. However I also rode the standard RNineT which was brilliant. Upside down forks, good tyres etc. Try the "normal one", it may transform your views of this platform. I'm now worried about the GS inspired RNINET, if its like the scrambler it will only sell on its fantastic looks. Keep safe all.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Cheers David - I am looking forward to trying a standard R9T out at some point - when it launched it had great reviews so my expectations are high for that one! Thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF.

@ronkumar1 7 жыл бұрын

Another great video...cheers mate.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Glad you approve - TMF

@markobruin 10 ай бұрын

Great review dude! 👌🏽

@TheJAMTUB 2 жыл бұрын

The scrambler handles great.... Awesome lean angles and although on mine I have the Pirelli MT60 tires, I've ridden with a friend with the same set up as the one you tried.... Handled like a dream too. Mind you he's really used to the bike as he's had it for over a year. Not convinced you had enough time on the bike to appreciate it properly. Also when you say that it's not an easy bike to ride... I think it's one of the easiest I've ridden. My wife too said it's one of the easiest bikes she's ridden. Miles better than our Ducati scrambler. But anyway it's always very subjective. Fair game.

@paulskyis50 5 жыл бұрын

I agree with you regarding the handling as I was given one of these today because my GSA in for a service. I believe it’s those pesky knobblies upsetting the handling, I felt so unsure on roundabouts 😮 spent a lot of time pulling over & taking pictures of it, It really looks the part.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын

....yes I've since ridden one without the knobbly tyres - makes a HUGE improvement - and as you say, a real looker....

@jjnewman65 3 жыл бұрын

Well, I just bought one on looks alone. I hope I like the ride!

@martindlx9344 Жыл бұрын

Hey, digging up here ! What's your opinion on the bike ?

@cport955 6 жыл бұрын

Tried one in Austria in the summer and found the seating position to be wrong, Too cramped for anything other than a short ride. It seems that BMW increased the ground clearance by lifting the pegs. I much preferred the Ducati Scrambler Desert Sled

@GrumpyGarry121 7 жыл бұрын

I always find filtering up to a roundabout sketchy when you get near the front. Tend to tuck in a couple of cars back.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, so do I in reality, learned that lesson again here!!

@axs7689 5 жыл бұрын

What a gorgeous motorcycle

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@sirtooby 7 жыл бұрын

I bought one in late November without even trying it 😀. Had it out a couple km before cold, salt and snow arrived. I am one of those guys that will use it on gravel, I have put down almost all kilometer on bad roads and gravel. Regarding vibes, I think it depends on what bike you are used to.... to me it silk smooth. The exhaust, Acrapovic is standard on the Scrambler at least in Sweden. I am with you regarding the position of pegs, they should have been lower. I have angled the handlebars upp/forward and added som additional 20 mm blocks so it's starting to get better. The tires sound alot but the actually work pretty well, the say that the sound will be less as the hard edges dissappear but we will Se about that. Thanx for your review you do em good.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tobias, glad yo are getting on OK with the bike, I love the styling and build quality and really wanted to love it, but alas this one didn't work for me....I'm looking forward to trying some of the other R9T family if I can, and see how they compare. Thanks for your kind words and for stopping by, all the best - TMF

@josepmariacanela2145 5 жыл бұрын

Tobias Lindstedt Hi, i I’have the same problem with the bar. What blocs did you use to rise it?

@frankfloyd5752 7 жыл бұрын

hope you had a brilliant Christmas TMF!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank, hope you did too....

@mikebreen2890 7 жыл бұрын

Your comments on it's looks prove one thing I already know...Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;-) I wonder why they used the old engine though? Cheaper?

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

That is true Mike and I know these types of bike aren't to everyone's taste (I love all the R9T variants though). And yes it is an odd one about the engine, I guess it's to retain "character" in the retro range, but to me it's just not as good an engine as the liquid cooled boxer....I for one could do without all that "Character"!! (Maybe BMW had a load left over in the warehouse)

@yessure5291 4 жыл бұрын

The engine design is decades old - why mess with success? They are air and oil cooled and the original Volkswagen beetles had air cooled flat 4's with no problems.

@buddysinsight9834 7 жыл бұрын

After my test ride I kept thinking to myself what kind of person is this bike aimed at. In the U.K. There is not many places you could take it off road. If you would want to that is. It's a cool looking bike with lots of character. It's beautiful looks will sell it that's for sure. Nice review 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words as ever....definitely more of a looker than a rider with those tyres on....

@sfbroome 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another fine review! I recently traded my Street Triple (a wonderful bike, as you know) on a new R1200r and love it. I am hoping you will give your impressions of this bike if you have a chance, as I've not seen that you've previously posted one. Riding position is between Street Triple and GS. As I get older, I seem to be gravitating toward a bit more upright position. Thanks again for all your videos.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve - as it happens I have a review of the R1200RS (which I think is very similar + a fairing) in the can - should post that one up on or around Wednesday the 4th (yes, I have an upload schedule!!!)....

@sfbroome 7 жыл бұрын

Sounds good! I think they are the same except for the fairing and handlebars (which may result in a different riding position, though I've not ridden an RS)

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

stay tuned!

@timbarry5080 6 жыл бұрын

Just for kicks check out the video "2017 bmw r nine t scrambler ripping the trails" watch the whole thing, it's about 9 minutes. Enjoy

@billwisdom3356 7 жыл бұрын

Great review!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+Bill Wisdom Cheers Bill....

@kevinwestwood6668 7 жыл бұрын

Triumphs launching its all new street triple on january 10th,i bet your looking forward to riding that one.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes can't wait, I hope it's the 765 and they haven't dumbed it down or made it weigh too much for Euro 4.....

@marcr660907 7 жыл бұрын

I test rode this on Saturday, and I was also underwhelmed with it, although I used another word. I do think a set of road tyres would improve the handling and general handling. Also, a bit pricey for what would essentially be a 2nd bike. Nice video, as usual.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

...glad we concur - was it this very bike?

@marcr660907 7 жыл бұрын

Same spec and setup I"m almost sure, but just in another part of the world. South Africa.

@faisalsharaf9755 4 жыл бұрын

Hello all. Love the TMF channel. I am planning on buying a 2021 RNineT or even an S1000R but I can’t seem to find out when the 2021models will be released. Any idea when the 2 is expected to be in showrooms? I heard some models may be delayed because of the Corona Virus. Thanks in advance, Faisal.

@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын

No idea I'm afraid :0(

@Motolimey 7 жыл бұрын

OK. I've been thinking of add an R9T to the stable.... lets watch and see what you say :)

@Motolimey 7 жыл бұрын

Sounds like great machine... I think my only concern is the low seat height you mentioned... I'm 6'4" I wonder if it will feel cramped. Better head out for a test ride methinks

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Good idea - and definitely ride with with road tyres, those knobblies make the ride horrible!

@myama45158 7 жыл бұрын

motolimey

@pistolpete6321 7 жыл бұрын

Great review, gorgeous bike!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Cheers Pete and good to hear from you again.....TMF

@pistolpete6321 7 жыл бұрын

Cheers, from the Great State of Texas!Have you heard if BMW is considering using the water cooled boxer for the R nineT? Seems like a logical upgrade if they could fit the radiator in a way that wouldn't detract from the awesome looks of the bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

No I've not heard that, I think using the original air-cooled motor is all part of the "retro" thing......(that or maybe BMW have a load of air-cooled stock sitting in a German warehouse somewhere!!!)

@judas2610 7 жыл бұрын

Good review. Thanks.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+judas2610 a thank you Judas2610

@reinistraidas 7 жыл бұрын

Rode the BMW Scrambler in summer, had similar thoughts - vibey, odd handling due to the low center of gravity or the wheel sizes and Karoo 3 tyres. Anyway, really interested in how the new Triumph Street Scrambler comes out, especially compared against their old Scrambler 900. I hope you get one for a first impressions video some time next year!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

So do I (I am working on it!)...thanks for watching - TMF

@reinistraidas 6 жыл бұрын

Ok, so I flipped and completely changed my mind about it after another test ride, this time with normal tyres. Bought the bike in the end and put some 2500 kms on it over summer last year. It sits next to a R1200GS in the garage. I love the looks and the character and the simplicity of no ride-by-wire systems on it. The GS feels like a commercial airliner in comparison - always deciding for you, always feels like there is a German computer between your hand and the wheels. Not so with the Scrambler. I just adore the instant input and feedback. The way it sways when you rev it, how it sounds, how it pulls at literally any gear and speed, how the shaft drive jacks up when you gas it, the subtle vibrations, the noisy dry clutch. And the gearbox is silk, compared to the agricultural one on the GS. It just turns heads wherever you pull up. So, the GS is the wife - all day, dependable, long range capable, comfy, go-anywhere bike. The Scram is the hot, if somewhat temperamental girlfriend that's a lot of fun on weekends and at the right amounts :)

@jakeyb6453 3 жыл бұрын

Those spokes on this bike look really prone to damage if you went off-road look nice but not practical ,all the best Mr Flyer 😁🇬🇧🏍❤️

@nigelpstreet 7 жыл бұрын

As a person of a certain age, an air-cooled boxer is iconic, but I'd never ridden one until test-riding the RnineT (not the Scrambler version). Sadly, it was a case of 'never meet your heroes', as I really didn't like it at all. It felt agricultural, and I did find it underpowered (my own bike is a Street Triple, so not exactly a powerful bike). It has 'character' but not in the sense that made me love it. If I had a garage for, say, 4 bikes , then maybe I'd find room for it, for Sunday morning rides to an idyllic town or seafront, and a pose. But it would fill a very small niche for me. Agree with you on the Ducati Scrambler, feels a learner bike, which the RnineT doesn't. Cheers.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes the R9T scrambler I rode certainly didn't have the urgent power you get from the Street Triple - it's a real shame because I wanted to love the scrambler...but if you compare it to the little Triumpet from a performance point of view, no contest in my mind! Cheers - TMF

@VTwinDr 7 жыл бұрын

I bought a scrambler! I test rode a Pure and a CB1100RS and EX . Almost committed to the Pure as it was a hoot and handled brilliantly but couldn't quite come to terms with tubed tyres so in the end I ordered a Scrambler (a great deal at the moment) without riding one and had a nervous couple of weeks going through reviews to allay my "handling" fears. I'm never gonna go off road so got the Metzeler Tourance option and the scrambler has tubeless spoked wheels. Well , no issues at all. With the road tyres it rides very similar to the Pure despite being slightly taller. I reckon BMW have shot themselves in the foot a little and would be better having demo bikes with road tyres and off-road option rather than the other way round

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

I completely agree as the Scrambler is a beautiful looking bike and it's only those knobblies that kill the handling I'm sure...I'm riding the Urban G/S tomorrow, that is basically a Scrambler sans Knobblies so I have high hopes!

@VTwinDr 7 жыл бұрын

oooh, I'd be interested to see your thoughts on that

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Stay tuned - defo a video coming soon....

@brucekendall52 7 жыл бұрын

Thks

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome ...

@TheDervMan 7 жыл бұрын

They say you should never meet your heros. Well this is one bike I don't want to ride as it looks soooooo nice and there's no way the ride can live up to the looks. :-o Thanks for sharing TMF

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that may be the lesson from this one DM!

@thetugster9550 7 жыл бұрын

Great review as always shame about that tyre noise

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was, easily fixed of course with some road oriented rubber but a shame as I really wanted to like this bike (I think looks wise it is a winner)...thanks for watching - TMF

@twotter1969 6 жыл бұрын

I took one for a test ride today and what a hoot to ride! Great sound, lots of grunt, nice riding position. I felt every bump on the knobbly tyres but the worst thing about the bike was the seat.....probably the most uncomfortable bike seat I've sat on. Still, thanks for the review and all of your other videos. PS, my Bonneville T120 test ride went much better ;)

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

The R9T ride is ruined by the knobbly tyres...riding one on road tyres makes all the difference...

@brightondude9327 7 жыл бұрын

It looks nice but what is it for? I couldn't see myself ever taking it off road. It doesn't seem to be ideally equipped for on-road use.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

....err can't say as I can answer that either - unless it's just for parking outside cafe's/barbers whilst your beard is trimmed...

@huwevans4452 6 жыл бұрын

Hello TMF, enjoying your reviews and just returning to biking after a 40 year gap! My question for you is related to rider height as like you I am 5' 8" and looking at the GS range (not the Adventure). In your reviews you seem to have the standard height model with a lowered seat but `I wondered if there's a reason not to go for the lowered chassis version (possibly with a lowered seat)? Hoping you can give some relevant advice as I don't want to get it wrong when I buy! Many thanks.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

Only potential impact on resale value....

@huwevans4452 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your prompt reply and thanks for posting these informative videos (if the term video still exists!).

@JLOSTAFF1 7 жыл бұрын

Would anyone really take one scrambling? The thought of dropping it fills me with dread! A good fun on-road bike in my opinion. Interesting what you say about buffeting at 70mph - my R1200R Sport is smoother without a screen than with which I find odd - must read up the law on aerodynamics! Nicely done again! Kind regards, Jon.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

...I certainly wouldn't Jon, but then I daren't take my GS off-road either (something I often get slammed for!)...off-road is for light-weight/cheaper bikes IMO...thanks for watching and stopping by once again - TMF

@EllisBurton3339 4 жыл бұрын

Damn the seat height , im 27 1/2 " inside leg but we all know the 1/2" makes all the difference 😘

@aapddd 5 жыл бұрын

How would you compare this comfort wise, to the Triumph t120 ? I'm 6ft2 and affraid the t120 is too small.

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын

Very similar comfort wise...

@renwickrussell7049 6 жыл бұрын

I test rode an R Nine T Classic, an R Nine T Pure and this (as well as some bikes from other manufacturers). Firstly this is NOT a Scrambler and if you buy one with the horrible knobby tyres they need to be thrown out however nice you think they look. But with good quality road tyres I prefer the ride to the other R Nine Ts. Yes it is slower to drop into corners but its a much bigger bike with (for me) a much more comfortable riding position and the suspension irons out surface irregularities better. I love it but it MUST have road tyres. I suggest our friend the Missenden Flyer tries again on a test bike with the right tyres, preferably just after or before one of the other R Nine Ts to illustrate the difference.

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree - having ridden other R9T's with road tyres this one is worth another look....

@eoghanhennessy15 7 жыл бұрын

Shame it wasn't as comfortable as you'd hoped, it looks like a comfortable cruiser for weekends etc like you mentioned. I'm looking forward to your review of the Triumph Bobber, despite the stupid name i've heard really great things about it from those who attended the press launch.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I really hope I can wangle a ride on one as soon as they're available - I'm not completely sure about the looks but if it rides as well as reports suggest I could be swung :0)

@eoghanhennessy15 7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer It does look awkward, hopefully that rear end looks better in person. The liquid cooled engine and handling characteristics might make up for that like you said. The only other advantage is that you don't have to look at it while riding it :-P

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

This is a very good point....

@Boodieman72 7 жыл бұрын

Not my style of bike but great review as always.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Cheers Boodieman...

@UnknownProdrive 7 жыл бұрын

Your thoughts after a ride, didn't surprise. If you pay over 10k you wanna be able to feel ya fingers, that roughness did surprise me. Great looks but dig a bit deeper....... Thanks again TMF.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, those vibes were beyond "character" for me....

@Tomraider 6 жыл бұрын

I have just bought myself a brand new BMW scrambler. I wonder in what range the oil temperature should be. And what’s maximum temp? When should I start to worry?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

If it makes a funny noise and then stops?

@Tomraider 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Good to know! 👍🏼

@GrumpyGarry121 7 жыл бұрын

Never mind the bike what that new intro? I thought it was a left in error on the last video!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Hehe, I had a couple of comments that the old intro was too long and that I should scrap it, I then noticed that I lose 25% of my viewers in the opening sequence so this was an experiment to see if a shorter intro retained more viewers....and so far it has! So the answer is a really good looking opener that lasts about 5 seconds!

@johnw2758 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe you tested the wrong Ducati Scrambler for a comparison. Would love your views on the Ducati Desert Sled.....any chance TMF?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

Yes I do need to revisit the Scrambler from Ducati for sure - including the big new 1100 (or is it a 1200?)...

@johnDukemaster 7 жыл бұрын

I've tried the NineT and the NineT Pure and even similar in many ways, I like the Pure better. So you better try them all! ;-)

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah - I do need to get some more R9T time under my belt for sure - loved the Racer, the Scrambler (disappointingly) not so much.....

@vriendelijkegroet 7 жыл бұрын

the old air cooled boxer offers better fuel economy than the current lc. I owned the old 1200R, basically the same engine as the scrambler, it was a great handling bike - I dare to say better handling than the LC GS and LC GSA - and could do 430 km with a full tank! Maybe try a nineT with road tires and road Öhlins suspension? I am quite sure a better bike than the scrambler.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+vriendelijkegroet ...that's my plan - thanks for watching - TMF

@Vanrocco66 7 жыл бұрын

I believe you have given the Bonneville T120 a ride, which do you prefer and why?

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+fivefootsixtriumph Yes I have, the T120 was a much nicer handling machine, mainly down to it having road tyres....I need to ride an R9T with street rubber for a fair comparison. Good to hear from you again, all the best for 2017 - TMF

@JayJay-jq1ss 7 жыл бұрын

Another great video .I am really looking forward to your thoughts on the Yamaha MT10 when you get a chance. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

I'd love to ride an MT-10 Jamie - sadly I don't have any access to one....but I aim to pester my local Yamaha dealer soon....

@jaystarmini 7 жыл бұрын

for price and what mods you can do im a fan of the yamaha xsr 700/900 but o like the twin noise more

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Did you read the MCN review of the XSR900 v the Thruxton this week??

@jaystarmini 7 жыл бұрын

naw haven't seen that must take a noisy at it cheers

@robert.reimon 6 жыл бұрын

Which one do you pick between the R1200R, R1200RS, ninet or the ninet scrambler?

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

@robert.reimon 6 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer ninet vs 1200gs?

@Jimdirt7898 7 жыл бұрын

Hi TMF I notice it has those oddly laced spoked wheels. Are they tubeless tyres. Happy new year.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

To be honest John I don't know - I suspect they are tubeless, but I don't know why I think that!

@Jimdirt7898 7 жыл бұрын

I think your right because looking closely the spokes seem to come out on the side of the rim.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

:0)

@johntaylor1797 7 жыл бұрын

good review. sat on one at dealer and riding position didn't work at all.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Actually I found the riding position alright, it was just the ride that was the problem! Unfortunately...as I really wanted to like the bike. I'm sure a vanilla RnineT would be fine....

@stevenv1992 7 жыл бұрын

What about a video on your views on bike security?

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Funny you should say that, I am planning on doing just that! Will be a few weeks but stay tuned.....

@Liviusan92 5 жыл бұрын

How are called the type of tires that it comes with ?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын

I can't remember it was a while ago now....

@Xs395 7 жыл бұрын

The pipes are standard I believe, partner designed by Akra.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes it turns out they are indeed....

@JLchevz 7 жыл бұрын

I love these sorta bikes

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too - well the styling anyway, although those knobbly tyres killed the ride on this one :0(

@JLchevz 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are unnecessary if you only ride on the street

@nearlyretired6440 7 жыл бұрын

The knobbly tyres probably made the turning a chore. I noticed that the bike had low miles on the tyres and my 1200RT was a pig until the tyres bedded in. Bit of wear on the tyres and the bike may be easier to turn.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes good point, this was a very new machine....it's a shame because I think the tyres look brilliant on this style of bike....

@jackpeterson8549 7 жыл бұрын

Another Top Notch review

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jack - appreciate your kind words, makes up for the odd negative one I get from others from time to time :0)

@thelikeablerider8800 7 жыл бұрын

Had a look at this bike last week, but couldn't take it out for a test ride! Didn't know it was air cooled, looks like there's a radiator on the front of the engine though

@ripmax333 7 жыл бұрын

that's the oil cooler.

@thelikeablerider8800 7 жыл бұрын

ripmax333 I feel stupid

@ripmax333 7 жыл бұрын

no need to be!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Why couldn't you take it for a test ride???

@thelikeablerider8800 7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer they had two in the show room but niether bike had been registered for the road. Hopefully in the new year I can get on one

@Mtbjitsu 7 жыл бұрын

I think that is a beautiful machine. Seriously considering trading my s1000r for one.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes they are lovely to look at for sure - quality bit's of kit...

@AlanTrades 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same dilemma right now!

@AlanTrades 2 жыл бұрын

Did you end up trading it?

@Mtbjitsu 2 жыл бұрын

@@AlanTrades no, I bought a gs instead. I thought the scrambler was a bit too small.

@AlanTrades 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mtbjitsu nice how are you liking the gs?

@guybramwells 7 жыл бұрын

I rode a scrambler the other day. Great little analogue bike. It is definetly a character. Definitely capable of riding off road. though you definitely need road hoops for extensive road riding. It turns like a pig 🐷 on the nobblies.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it! I'd like to ride a standard R9T on road tyres and see how they go some time.....

@guybramwells 7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer I found that it's a ball, ⚽ if you ride it with a bit of spirit and stand up a little off the seat. Not everyone's cup of ☕ tea. But if I had one I'd definitely take her off the beaten path. She's a bike that would enjoy disrespect, disdain and a damn good thrashing. While repaying you with a grin 😁 from 👂 to 👂.

@SJCB27 7 жыл бұрын

What is an analogue bike, please?

@guybramwells 7 жыл бұрын

Buzz Shiteyear Just a feeling, of no electronic intervention. That the riding experience is all down to your feed back from your riding inputs on the machine.

@fastfrankee 7 жыл бұрын

Looks really cool with its retro styling as does the Triumph scrambler but the actual ride like you say feels more like your sat or perch on top of the bike rather than in it, I guess like me you've been spoiled by the GS but must say these retro old style looking bikes do look good, some of my fiends own them but they don't appeal to me as a bike I would ride.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely more of a bike to admire than ride I think Frankie! Thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF

@rento1973 7 жыл бұрын

"Let's not get distracted" haha, was that an instruction to us, or a note to self? Probably both!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Meant as a note to self, but let's go with both and it makes me seem less lecherous.....

@rento1973 7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer it takes one to know one, dude. 🤓

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

...OK, I feel better about myself now, thanks...

@PipeOPhile 7 жыл бұрын

Beautiful bike, will sell good for sure but.. Somehow these BMW boxer engine sound never grew on me, that "brrprrp". I don't know why. Maybe I'll change my mind with time like I often do

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes it sure is a nice looking machine, but with those knobbly tyres not so great on the road I'm afraid....

@axellness 7 жыл бұрын

i love the bmw scrambler. unfortunately it's too much $$, so i'm settling with the ducati scrambler for now.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

+Axell Hernandez oh dear!

@yessure5291 4 жыл бұрын

You will pay more with service costs and parts costs than the BMW

@billcotton1551 6 жыл бұрын

If those were Metzler Karoo3 tires on the bike ,they could be responsible for the noise and the bad low speed handling characteristics. Great review as usual!

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

Yes it is indeed the tyres that spoiled the ride on this one....

@billcotton1551 6 жыл бұрын

BTW the Small towns and Villages in England are beautiful.

@kevintaylor9330 7 жыл бұрын

You can't deny the quality of a BMW and although, as I've said before, I don't usually go for oldies, this looks great till you get to those cylinders poking out either side. They are way more pronounced on a skinny oldie than on say your GS. I think BMW should turn the engine 90 degrees and keep it slim.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Agreed - the build quality of the bike is superb...

@funchalflash6994 7 жыл бұрын

air cooled what sort of temp are showing around town

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

To be honest I didn't check, certainly didn't get any high temperature warnings (but wouldn't expect to this time of the year either :0). Thanks for watching - TMF

@funchalflash6994 7 жыл бұрын

cool as always a good vid

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you my fishy friend...

@funchalflash6994 7 жыл бұрын

lol

@stephencarrahar286 6 жыл бұрын

Did you ever get the opportunity to try the scrambler with the road basis tyre. Or have you heard any reports on this subject. Thanks

@TheMissendenFlyer 6 жыл бұрын

...I didn't but the reports I heard were that it transforms the bike - and given I've now ridden other variants (which were great) I can entirely believe that to be the case...

@Jetskicentral 7 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review, great looking bike shame it rides so poorly. Anth

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Well I imagine with more road oriented rubber it would ride a lot better -I hope to ride a vanilla R9T at some point, so will report back.....cheers for watching - TMF

@dasteknoviking 7 жыл бұрын

Howdy sir, came here for see if you rode one of these as I am considering buying one as a commuter bike and keeping my excellent trusty old K. Rode the Pure version yesterday with spoked wheels and that nice welded aluminum tank. I came away with exactly the same impression as you have mate! The handling was just off for me, everything else was awesome. She did not want to turn in quickly and felt very lazy. I ride a older K1200RS with Ohlins and bunch of power mods. I always throught the old girl was a pig through the corners, but the R9T Pure takes that cake and eats it. Would love to hear your opinion on the regular R9T, which has the S1000RR forks and brakes plus completely different steering angle. That's ideally what I came to ride at the dealer but they didn't have one ready for a test ride. Maybe next weekend... I hope it is better than the Pure. I found it funny that I knew all about the suspension changes and dealer did not. Cheers mate!

@UncleWally3 6 жыл бұрын

The lion’s share of comments are praise for the bike’s aesthetics, the few comments aimed at performance are mostly negative. Great bike to look at, not so great to actually ride?

@drdrew3 2 жыл бұрын

Ride is comprises one because of the knobby tires. There’s an option to delete those.

@gtx332 7 жыл бұрын

The rake and knobby tires make this handle like a truck. Rode this back to back with the nine t. T was a much nicer ride and handling

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes I can imagine - the scrambler with knobblies was horrible!

@Pen15UK 7 жыл бұрын

Shame you didn't like it in at no. 1. You're welcome to come and give my RnineT Sport a go anytime 👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I need to have a go on one with proper road tyres, sure that would make all the difference....

@Pen15UK 7 жыл бұрын

TheMissendenFlyer happy to sort something out if you want to give it a try

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you....

@mgv7ii44 7 жыл бұрын

I tried the R Nine T and the Ducati Scrambler and wound up buying a Moto Guzzi V7 II. As you say, the Scrambler feels like a toy, and the finish quality leaves a lot to be desired. It's also way too torquey. I wasn't keen on the look or seat position of the R Nine T, let alone the price. So wound up with the Guzzi, which I'm very happy with despite it having less power than either. I also appreciate the fact that the Guzzi is a modern bike rather than a nostalgic throwback. The fake fins and fake carbuorator on the new Triumph are a total turnoff.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Isn't it odd that a bike (like the Ducati Scrambler) can be "way too torquey" - but I completely agree! Would love a go on one of those Guzzi's one day, I get what you mean about it being a little more authentic. I love Triumphs and think the new Bonnies are brill, but I completely get what you say about the faux carbs....not really necessary IMO. Thanks for watching and for stopping by - all the best - TMF

@brightondude9327 7 жыл бұрын

I hate the fake fins and fake carburettor on those Triumph retros. Actually I don't like much about those Triumphs. The Moto Guzzi V7 is a lovely lovely bike. That isn't really a retro, they just never stopped making it. That "small block" Guzzi first arrived in the early 80s as the V50. It was lovely then and it remains lovely today.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I get that Brighton Dude - I personally love the Triumphs but I'm not a fan of fake fuel caps and carbs for sure....

@blueoval250 4 жыл бұрын

Bike weighs 9974588 grams, has 111HP, 17 liter tank, can go 150 miles on a tank... gotta love those metric conversion countries

@guywolff 7 жыл бұрын

FOr the US market 485 pounds ...

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the translation Guy :0)

@robscherer 5 жыл бұрын

This or the Street Scrambler?

@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын

Tough - Street Scrambler I think....Scrambler 1200 may be even better ;0)

@robscherer 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheMissendenFlyer 1200 is too much for me, in multiple departments lol. I think I've decided to go with the original matte green or black Street scrambler vs wait for the new one

@Cvw777 7 жыл бұрын

Have you ridden the pure yet? Would love to hear your thoughts

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

No not yet - I'm working on it though!

@ericb7937 7 жыл бұрын

What about now?

@whitedrman6019 7 жыл бұрын

More of a case of form over function, like most of the new retro style bikes. Not a big fan but each to their own.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yes it seemed it a bit to me certainly as far as the tyres go - which is a shame because BMW have got the form spot on with this bike in my opinion (but then I do like these retro bikes)...as you say "horses for courses" and I guess we're just lucky to have so many types and styles of bikes to choose from these days. Thanks for watching and for stopping by - TMF.

@nigelmtb 2 жыл бұрын

I had one of these today from the same place for the same reason. Eff me, I did not like it at all! Very different to my 750GS. It took all day to feel remotely normal on board. I appreciate my instruments a lot more now. It did look great, I agree, but I'd never buy one.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын

Fair enough Nigel!

@scootjockey 7 жыл бұрын

No Harley Davidsons ? just wondering thanx for the video anyway.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

'fraid not - none to common in these parts!

@scootjockey 7 жыл бұрын

If it,s the Uk there are dealerships all over the country i mean England ain,t that big.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Not being common here in England is nothing to do with a lack of dealerships ;0) .....sorry couldn't resist, for some reason I readily admit I don't fully get, Harley's are rather looked down upon by the majority bikers over here.....(as are GS riders like me!!)

@scootjockey 7 жыл бұрын

You do not have to apologise, HD looked down on bloody snobs ,just don,t get it but i think the biker scene has changed in the digital world anyway. I am a Brit but i live in Germany so GS riders are the ones that are in numbers here .I had a gs but a long time ago ( Clutch went ) on the nordschleife! It would have been nice to see a review on English soil thats all no more no less.

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

I'd love to ride one at some point, just need to find a friendly/local dealer....so what are you riding now?

@SJCB27 7 жыл бұрын

One man's lumpy is another man's characterful... And yes; those mirrors are shite. Need an open-face helmet and Ray-Bans too!

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Agreed on the "character" thing - this one had oodles of it!

@DonaMane 7 жыл бұрын

I like the original R9T better

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I need to have a go on one of those and see what difference the road tyres make...can only be an improvement...

@grim6107 7 жыл бұрын

bought the std Rninet ,when it first came out. It was a really disappointing purchase.. braking the frontend always wobbled.. the speedo annoyed me - too plastic looking for retro bike.. eventually sold it with less than 600 miles on clock..

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Oh dear, sorry to hear that Graeme, I have high hopes for the standard machine (which I'm yet to ride) - out of interest, what did you replace it with??

@grim6107 7 жыл бұрын

Traded it in and bought the Triple black 2016 GS, which I just toured across US, with 4 VFRs with Rich from Wildbad tours..in Oct.. went like a dream (6900 miles in almost 4 weeks )..

@TheMissendenFlyer 7 жыл бұрын

Aha! Small world, I was admiring your bike only yesterday, enjoyed Richy's first instalment and can't wait for the rest of the tour :0) Lucky fella....