2017 Ducati Multistrada 1200 Enduro Review | MC Commute

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7 жыл бұрын

Motorcyclist staffer Zack Courts is always arriving to office after his commute with a bunch of opinions about the bike he’s riding. Too much this, not enough that, and occasionally has some decent insights. We thought some of it might help consumers or entertain enthusiasts, so we strapped a camera and microphone to the side of his helmet and told him to turn it on when he leaves his house. A lot of him talking in his helmet is complaining about drivers, yelling at red lights, and wondering why billboards aren’t more expensive. But sometimes he actually talks about the bike, and those are the parts we keep. Got a bike you would like to see discussed? Let us know and we’ll send him home on that one next.
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It's no secret we're always trying to get our staff to work a little harder. Especially the ones that always seem to have too much to say. "Write it down!" we always shout at each other. Zack Courts is a classic case, always arriving to office after his commute with a bunch of opinions about the bike he's riding. Too much this, not enough that, and occasionally has some decent insights that we thought might help consumers or entertain enthusiasts.
So we strapped a GoPro camera and microphone to the side of his helmet and told him to turn it on when he leaves his house. A lot of him talking in his helmet is complaining about drivers, yelling at red lights, and wondering why billboards aren't more expensive. But sometimes he actually talks about the bike, and those are the parts we keep. Got a bike you would like to see discussed? Let us know and we'll send him home on that one next.
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@doxasnob8137
@doxasnob8137 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Never get tired of watching these.
@robedmunds7163
@robedmunds7163 7 жыл бұрын
I love this format. keep em coming
@KTM_Trooper
@KTM_Trooper 7 жыл бұрын
had been like 2 weeks away from youtube and when im here i see the mc commute as my first vid on the notification! i couldnt be more happier!!
@dan10sun
@dan10sun 7 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this review format...great stuff...Thanks!!
@kingsqueak2221
@kingsqueak2221 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone who asks about heated grips has either never ridden very long below 50F, or simply has never tried them. Heated grips and gear is amazing. For the dirt-bike thing, the big adv bikes are amazing for lousy roads, paved and unpaved. They are of course not a dirt bike. Great job as usual.
@victorsaheki
@victorsaheki 7 жыл бұрын
O MY GOD I LOVE IT WHEN YOU BACK IT IN
@AiroRider
@AiroRider 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, I'm hoping to be doing my own in the next few weeks, I can't wait! I'm still amazed by that fuel tank, it's huge!
@Timmayytoo
@Timmayytoo 7 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these videos because Zack can talk intelligently about the bike while riding it, but I have one small quibble with something he said. He suggested that the $21,000-$24,000 price is a lot to ask for the Enduro, but that puts it squarely in the middle of the price range of it's primary competitors. I agree that nearly $25,000 is a lot of money; more than I ever thought I would be willing to pay for any motorcycle. But I found that once you've ridden one of these top end ADV bikes for awhile, and realize that it can often replace your car for most journeys, the price becomes much more palatable.
@michaeldobson8859
@michaeldobson8859 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to pay that much to buy one if you can buy one that’s three years or four years old
@josech
@josech 7 жыл бұрын
Agree on the heated grips. You learn how much comfort you can get from then until you have them.
@johna6968
@johna6968 7 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to the MC commutes..
@stoops417
@stoops417 7 жыл бұрын
Great info as always Zach. I would love to hear more on MC Commute about the other half of commuting... the gear! Tell me about that suit you are wearing, how does that bag feel while riding? How much can you fit in it? Are your boots comfortable enough to wear in the office all day? What if it rains? The thoughts on the bikes are wonderful, but as you well know, that's only one big part of commuting on a motorcycle.
@TheRamsberg
@TheRamsberg 7 жыл бұрын
Only one item was left out, I noticed that the wire wheels have the wires connecting to outside of the tires on the rims, thus allowing for the use of tubeless tires with wire wheels, without and wire spoke sealing systems having to be in place. Great review as always!
@Jajeweet
@Jajeweet 7 жыл бұрын
I wish these commutes came out more often!
@MrSimonfoz
@MrSimonfoz 3 жыл бұрын
Trust me if you live in the UK 🇬🇧 you need heated grips. Awsome bike I love mine.
@dinonoce
@dinonoce 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the video of you on the track with the other Multistrada. I have a 2016 MTS 1200S and I love it! It's a fantastic bike, and I agree that it's a tall sport bike. I'm thinking of taking mine to the track as well.
@threethrushes
@threethrushes 7 жыл бұрын
Heated grips are essential in Europe, and for Spring and Autumn evenings. I used to want to cut off my hands with pain due to cold hands until I bought heated grips for my old bike and current squeeze. Even on a balmy summer evening, I'll set the grips on 10% heat just for that toasty sensation.
@thor8640
@thor8640 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 13 Multistrada Gran Torismo and rides on gravel roads (which we have plenty of here in Canada) scare the crap out of me on the 190 rear tire. The Enduro will be my next bike for sure.
@ViceVersaMusik1
@ViceVersaMusik1 7 жыл бұрын
Besides the new Triumph Street Triple RS, I LOVE The Displays on these Multistadas!
@SineOccasu
@SineOccasu 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Zack!
@istanbulianb
@istanbulianb 6 жыл бұрын
"It's massive & entertaining and awesome...". I couldn't have put it better or more succinctly. Having bought one there is NO WAY I would green lane this beast but it sure puts a smile on my face. Even if the bulk is a bit intimidating. Great review; thanks.
@arnoldis24
@arnoldis24 2 ай бұрын
I know this is a 6 year old comment, but did you keep the bike for any length, and how has reliability been?
@user-HBD
@user-HBD 7 жыл бұрын
would really appreciate Metric decimal system for weight, fuel capacity and dimensions if you're saying any, not just for this but for all your reviews because the world watchs you. Thank you
@tedwitus
@tedwitus 7 жыл бұрын
pass the inverse along to your metric friends too!
@Luke_K1
@Luke_K1 7 жыл бұрын
Hiren Danidharia I
@user-HBD
@user-HBD 7 жыл бұрын
aluisious American units? LOL...😂😆
@user-HBD
@user-HBD 7 жыл бұрын
aluisious Get a life? You bothered to reply on my comment.
@robmitchell716
@robmitchell716 7 жыл бұрын
The USA measurement system was never standard. Your gallon and ton was never the full thing, both lighter than the rest of the world's gallons and tons.
@whittlad
@whittlad 7 жыл бұрын
Agree with what you say about the bike being top heavy and even for a tall person like myself (6'4") she's quite a hand full to get on. However, the bike is great fun, easy to ride, sounds fantastic and is a real head-turner. Only criticism are the heated grips of which are not very good.
@eamonhope-ross1070
@eamonhope-ross1070 7 жыл бұрын
Wooo a commute! Keep it up Zack!
@jdwmmedia
@jdwmmedia 7 жыл бұрын
would love to do some cross country touring on this thing!! thats the dream
@tsav6952
@tsav6952 7 жыл бұрын
jdwm Just go for it.
@Erikootje
@Erikootje 7 жыл бұрын
one of the best mechanic windshield adjustment systems on the market, agreed The best system comes from the Honda Crosstourer.
@nicolasfilsdejean
@nicolasfilsdejean 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Zack: nice review :) Just one question: how is the throttle response at low speeds/low rpm (like riding into round abouts or on very rocky off roads)? Thanks
@emidyl24
@emidyl24 7 жыл бұрын
as always Zack, great work. What is that col on the aerostich? IS that their new red/oxblood? MIght have to rethink that col choice for myself unless it's not that odd red in real life?
@SupRec
@SupRec 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome bike!
@smallfry506
@smallfry506 7 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the KTM 1290 super adventure r! As always I love these.
@markariewilliams
@markariewilliams 4 жыл бұрын
Stuck a Rapid Bike Racing ECU on mine with a Rapid Bike quick shifter/Blipper, thing handles and goes like a Dream! averaging 270 miles 430kms per tank even when giving it some...
@ABH313
@ABH313 7 жыл бұрын
great video, great presentation, great bike. love that it was scratched up and dirty! 2 questions, what tires were you running? and what was it like to pick it up when you fell? thanks
@ABH313
@ABH313 7 жыл бұрын
thanks, I was just wondering if the weight felt down low or if it felt like the full 600lbs.
@dangerranger3883
@dangerranger3883 7 жыл бұрын
What a beauty.
@RobertPasekoff
@RobertPasekoff 7 жыл бұрын
I love my Enduro! Sadly, I live in a snowy place that doesn't make for good all-year riding. Nevertheless, I've put 13,000 miles on it so far, about 1,000 of which were in the dirt. I agree with everything Zack said, except for his assertion that he'd prefer the regular Multi. Then again, in my case, the Enduro wasn't competing against the regular Multi. It was competing against the BMW and the KTM. For me, it was love at first sight.
@DanDanai1
@DanDanai1 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Pasekoff Any problems with the bike so far? Considering purchasing one...
@arthurmchugh5184
@arthurmchugh5184 6 жыл бұрын
New multistrada a bit to salty for my budget. After 198.000 miles on my Ducati st2 went looking for a touring bike, found a 2011 1200s touring with all service records and lots of add ons seat, lights, luggage rack, crash bars . I think the 40.000 miles scared folks away from it. Got it for 6 grand 😎🏍🏍
@jasonharmon3679
@jasonharmon3679 7 жыл бұрын
So, is the 2013-2014 Multi the best? With the DSS? These things are very important... for how to jettison some disposable income, real or imagined. Thanks for the MC commutes! Love em
@kacasio1
@kacasio1 7 жыл бұрын
I've been asking for a while, but can you please list the gear that Zack uses in the description? thanks!
@slippityslappity449
@slippityslappity449 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Zack, would you mind doing one of these for the CB650f when it hits the shores?
@HotrodsMotorcycling
@HotrodsMotorcycling 7 жыл бұрын
Love my aerostitch
@TG-sf2dq
@TG-sf2dq 6 жыл бұрын
Zach I am also 6’2 and found all adventure bikes put me too high up and I get a lot of buffeting around my helmet , did you get the same from this bike ?
@FSCAlexander
@FSCAlexander 7 жыл бұрын
85 sodas... yup, that checks out! ☺️👍
@soren123
@soren123 7 жыл бұрын
A shoutout to Canada! Woooo!
@Cottonrocket
@Cottonrocket 7 жыл бұрын
Has Ducati addressed the ethanol induced fuel tank swelling? I bought a 2014 Multistrada 1200 S Touring and within a year of exposure to CA's 10% ethanol fuel the tank was expanding and pushing the fuel cap upward out of the plastic tank shrouds. My first expanded tank was replaced under warranty. Within the second year of ownership the replacement tank also swelled and Ducati's response was that it's only a cosmetic issue and since the factory warranty had lapsed they would not replace the second tank. I love my Multistrada but the plastic tank issue is really frustrating, especially considering there is no known permanent fix and Ducati has known about the issue for many years. I know several people with the same bike who have the exact same expanding tank problem. As fun as it has been to own a Multistrada, the tank issue has left a bitter taste and I will likely purchase a different brand next time if they can't resolve this problem for its high-paying customers.
@05R6R
@05R6R 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the kawi Z900?
@RX50
@RX50 7 жыл бұрын
If litres confuse you, compare them to quarts. 85litres are almost 90qt. In Europe a normal soda is 33cl (1/3 litre).
@michals1108
@michals1108 4 жыл бұрын
Heated grips here in EU are MUST
@HughWalenski
@HughWalenski 7 жыл бұрын
You can't adjust the windshield through the menu?
@AdamOmidpanah
@AdamOmidpanah 7 жыл бұрын
Is the Ducati Enduro center stand bolted into the engine case like their side stands?
@avpilas
@avpilas 7 жыл бұрын
Zack, what kind of gloves are you using in this video?
@WheatMillington
@WheatMillington 7 жыл бұрын
This thing has a fuel tank almost the same size as my car!
@brandonstromtrooper7385
@brandonstromtrooper7385 7 жыл бұрын
The service and part costs for this bike are absolutely mental.
@philtripe
@philtripe 7 жыл бұрын
i sat on this bike and liked it alot,( more money) it was nice to have a tall seat but wound up with my 796 which i bought as an around town street bike and quickly found out it really hates the dirt...its amazing on pavement but twitchy and nervous on even flat dirt and becomes pronounced in gravel. and judging by the scratches on the bike and what you say, the multistrada is no better
@topgun8683
@topgun8683 7 жыл бұрын
You didn't show any footage of your off road ride?
@russellpeterson7548
@russellpeterson7548 6 жыл бұрын
All I ask is 1 question: KTM 1290 SAS or Multi 1260 S? Which one would you buy?
@paulfrankelphd
@paulfrankelphd 6 жыл бұрын
Lots of settings and buttons, but it does not seem to have self-canceling turn signals!
@zippo8285
@zippo8285 7 жыл бұрын
Enduro pro is out, will there be any commute on that
@AkaAndyKnuckles
@AkaAndyKnuckles 7 жыл бұрын
Waited the whole video for you to back it in.
@SineOccasu
@SineOccasu 7 жыл бұрын
haha same!
@Imotopilot
@Imotopilot 4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@damytzeus
@damytzeus 7 жыл бұрын
zack, what gloves are you wearing?
@arkansastrey9694
@arkansastrey9694 5 жыл бұрын
would love to have one of those
@Imotopilot
@Imotopilot 4 жыл бұрын
Get one! I picked up a 2010 Multi with 20k miles 2 years ago for $6500 USD. Amazing machine!
@Mrich775
@Mrich775 7 жыл бұрын
Shout out for Aerostich, and I thought that I was the only one under 75 that loves them! ;)
@mhks68
@mhks68 4 жыл бұрын
Well when they send you one for free. How can you not give them props?!?
@Mrich775
@Mrich775 4 жыл бұрын
@@mhks68 I get free stuff in my industry all the time that's shit, free doesn't change quality, and if your a motorcyclist and don't know the reputation aerostitch already carries then go look.
@skater9368
@skater9368 7 жыл бұрын
how would you compare to the KTM 1290 adventure S ?
@georgestathakopoulos1386
@georgestathakopoulos1386 4 ай бұрын
Thinking of buying. I found one in great condition. What do you think?
@ayushjaiswal4427
@ayushjaiswal4427 7 жыл бұрын
will you review the 2017 KTM Duke 390?
@Luminosity94
@Luminosity94 5 жыл бұрын
Does the bike give much heat around the thigh area?
@evandre02
@evandre02 7 жыл бұрын
It's that oil liking. right above Oil Sight Glass??
@hmwatchs8
@hmwatchs8 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Zack I'm looking for your video on the 1260 enduro
@adrianfr05
@adrianfr05 7 жыл бұрын
Is the Monster 797 a good bike?
@markkuuurainen7190
@markkuuurainen7190 7 жыл бұрын
2017 800GS next please :)
@nateriver7848
@nateriver7848 7 жыл бұрын
Do one with the new R6!
@hujimix
@hujimix 7 жыл бұрын
"A litre is like a soda." That's a big soda my friend. Regular size sodas are about 500ml to 600ml
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 7 жыл бұрын
Because 'Merica! lol "I don't want a large farva. I want a goddamn litre o' cola!"
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary 7 жыл бұрын
hujimix. Coke and Pepsi released 1.5 liter bottles here in the US because they are easier to drink out of than 2 liters. ☺
@tonatiuhlopez3837
@tonatiuhlopez3837 7 жыл бұрын
hujimix litter is used all over the world... just the us and uk use something different but think this a litter is = 3 normal sized coca cola cans
@dirtmonkee13
@dirtmonkee13 7 жыл бұрын
Tonatiuh Lopez you can use a soda liter for reference or a US quart is just under a liter. That's typically an easier reference for those who don't use the metric system often.
@ih8momjokes1
@ih8momjokes1 7 жыл бұрын
hujimix actually it's 335ml, 1l, 2l
@Theguyunderyourbed22
@Theguyunderyourbed22 7 жыл бұрын
So when will you make a tutorial about backing it in
@marscruz
@marscruz 7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see what the new KTM mid-size parallel twin has in the way of -->weight
@xzistpo
@xzistpo 6 жыл бұрын
True.
@Graey
@Graey 6 жыл бұрын
Haha that 790 adv is your answer now isn't it.
@adammfharris
@adammfharris 2 жыл бұрын
You are missing the point of large Adventure. These bikes are for people who get up in the morning, and want to drive 4 hours to another place, eat lunch, get back on the road, cruise a good road and some trails for two hours, then turn around and ride 4 hours home. The mid-weight are for an hour or so in comfort on the road, an hour off-road, then two hours back home. It’s a direct trade off. Weight=comfort and bigger engine, worse off-road
@marscruz
@marscruz 2 жыл бұрын
@@adammfharris Like I said: ..."but if you can't pick it up when you dump it in the dirt then what's the point?" I mostly ride alone. If you're riding with buddies then they can help you after your 650lb pig gets stuck in a wallow. That doesn't work for me. Everyone has different needs. I was expressing mine. Since I wrote this 5 years ago we now have the Yammie T7 the Aprillia 660 Tuareg and KTM upgraded their Adventure to an 890. These are not light bikes but I think I could pick them up if I didn't break a leg in a fall. This happened to a buddy of mine in Baja. He was riding a 990 Adventure and he toughed it out and made if back to civilization. He's one tough SOB.
@mbtfp
@mbtfp 7 жыл бұрын
Please show the world the offroad section aswell!
@ozarksbackroads5484
@ozarksbackroads5484 6 жыл бұрын
Zach, I know you are busy getting ready to do the Versys 1000 commute video so I wont keep you, Just wanted to say Nice video....
@FredOliff
@FredOliff 7 жыл бұрын
for riding across Canada? How did you know I wanted a bike to do this on?!
@John_Ridley
@John_Ridley 5 жыл бұрын
Join me on my ride here in Michigan in February when it's 10*F out and see if you don't appreciate heated grips AND heated gloves.
@CPUspeed
@CPUspeed 7 жыл бұрын
What runs hotter in terms of rider discomfort. The big Ducati's or the big KTM's?
@Graey
@Graey 6 жыл бұрын
CPUspeed I've never felt my 1290sdr was hot. Granted my 950 sm I thought was brutally hot.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 7 жыл бұрын
Passenger with baggage ( is there any other kind?). Passing gas..... stations. Speaking Italian with your hand at the end. Fantastic!
@patrickmcdonald2239
@patrickmcdonald2239 7 жыл бұрын
what about sending him comuting on a ducati 2017 supersport s.
@achyut522
@achyut522 7 жыл бұрын
what about the engine heat ?
@cristian_enea
@cristian_enea 7 жыл бұрын
85 l is like 85 sodas :)))))))))))))) nice one bro :))))))))))))
@SnipeU696
@SnipeU696 6 жыл бұрын
Heated Grips. Because when you ride year round, your hands get cold sitting in the wind. It's the little things in life.
@Ben-bg2eg
@Ben-bg2eg 7 жыл бұрын
That RS though 2:20
@NikolajA1995
@NikolajA1995 7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the color choice of the bike. It is so cool in the Ducati red. :)
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 7 жыл бұрын
Just send riders up here in the north and push them to ride until Thanksgiving. They'll understand about heated grips.
@robertryan3138
@robertryan3138 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you keep hitting your left thumb button? Is that force of habit, or is there a reason?
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan 7 жыл бұрын
Dude it's always overcast at Zack's house
@10fantic
@10fantic 7 жыл бұрын
billiondollardan the mcn shop is in california, not far from the beach. I realized this in the ktm superduke commute, he was riding where I got lost on my gsxr 600, now I have a ktm superduke 1290r.
@micsierra806
@micsierra806 5 жыл бұрын
It's that marine layer bruh. Cool coastal mornings then the layer burns off and fun in the sun.
@mickeypopa
@mickeypopa 6 жыл бұрын
34 ¼" seat height.... damn, I'd say that's way too tall for any rider used to 31" sport bike seat height. lol I'm 5'8" and I'd say I'm brave enough for riding 33.1" Versys 650 which is also 478lbs (which I can't flatfoot on both sides), but would I even dare trying this Multistrada? Hell no! You'd have to be a pretty strapping fella to ride this super tall 600lbs beast.
@samtoshner8002
@samtoshner8002 7 жыл бұрын
If you are looking at this bike to go off road on you've been horribly misled by the ADV marketing machine. Unless you're Chris Birch, in which case NO go back to your KTM! Haha
@faizanmohammed9266
@faizanmohammed9266 7 жыл бұрын
Shed some information on gearing of motorcycle and how achieve more top speed or better torque by gearing. It'll helpful. They are a lot of complicated videos on this topic of gearing. I request you to make it simple to understand.
@nathanbowd6728
@nathanbowd6728 7 жыл бұрын
Faizan Mohammed by gearing I assume you mean drive chain rather than the gearbox itself. Basically to reduce the ratio, therefore increase acceleration by shortening the gearing, you remove teeth on the drive (front sprocket or add teeth on at the wheel. The opposite is true to gain top end; like a mountain bike. When changing one you should ideally change the whole set including chain as they wear with each other (not too much of an issue on a new chain,
@faizanmohammed9266
@faizanmohammed9266 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Bowd Yes, I was looking of information on sprockets. My bike is a Yamaha YZF-R 15 (150cc). I am looking forward to tune the sprockets on my bike for low rpm high speed cruising for example 100kmph @ 4000rpm. My bike runs on standard sprockets that is 14 T front and 42 T back.
@motovloggingwithvman2188
@motovloggingwithvman2188 6 жыл бұрын
Buddy, you forgot to answer the million dollar question, is it better than GSA?
@808Affliction
@808Affliction 7 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to drink coffee in the morning!
@808Affliction
@808Affliction 7 жыл бұрын
Lol sorry but you sounded tired! Lol 🙃
@bobbyleescott
@bobbyleescott 7 жыл бұрын
after see how much a multristrada key is theres no way id go offroad and run the risk of losing it.
@cuzimaluzer777
@cuzimaluzer777 7 жыл бұрын
not sure I'd want a Ducati with a lot of electrical doo dads.
@sampound3543
@sampound3543 7 жыл бұрын
You know what I would do? Fill two large gasoline containers also and chuck 'em in the saddles. Now you can travel the whole world.
@Itzak15
@Itzak15 7 жыл бұрын
85 liters is 85000 cc
@werdwerdus
@werdwerdus 7 жыл бұрын
what are the gloves?
@jasonharmon3679
@jasonharmon3679 7 жыл бұрын
werdwerdus Maybe the Racer High Racer...
@werdwerdus
@werdwerdus 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Harmon thanks!
@BigAppleEmperor
@BigAppleEmperor 7 жыл бұрын
$430 for the first service, then replaced shift sensor, fuel level sensor, rear brake master cylinder, all in the first year. But it is still my best all around bike, my GS Adventure gets no love, KTM 690 gets no love, Superduke gets no love.
@menom7
@menom7 7 жыл бұрын
Great review here Zack................but C'mon..............let's get down to the nitty-gritty here...........I see you failed to mention how MUCH $$$ you'll be shelling out for Valve-adjustments on these things,and how often? Of course,I'm going from old info. of friends who have early 2000 Ducati sportbikes,and told me that valve-adjustments for those things are OFTEN and EXPENSIVE!!! So,I'm HOPING Ducati was able to improve on their L-twin design and make valve-adjustments alot LESS mandatory for this machine!!! :)
@Ducati_Dude
@Ducati_Dude 7 жыл бұрын
menom7... 18,000 miles for the Desmo service...
@epiphonesg007
@epiphonesg007 7 жыл бұрын
18000 miles, is when the valves need checking. Just because the timing needs to be checked, that doesn't mean it needs to be adjusted.
@menom7
@menom7 7 жыл бұрын
Ducati Dude WOW!!! Now I can certainly live by THAT NUMBER!!! Lol Thanks for that info!!!
@ClaesN1973
@ClaesN1973 7 жыл бұрын
Expensive? :D In Denmark it's 56,000 USD :)
@t_tsering
@t_tsering 7 жыл бұрын
bmw s1000r please!!!
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