I got the diesel because I wanted it, not because I needed it. Sweetest truck I've ever driven. Payment sucks. Maintenance costs suck. Still cheaper than a trophy wife.

One topic that wasnt mentioned were issues dealing with relatively light use of the truck. In addition to the increased expense of oil changes and fuel filters on the diesel, there's also maintenance required on the EGR system because of soot. Additionally, light use/stop and go/daily driver use of the diesel will cause problems with the diesel particulate filter, which basically operates like a self cleaning oven requiring very high temperatures. If the temperatures don't get high enough, the filter starts to get clogged and has to do a regen mode. Bottom line, if you are not doing heavy towing and extended high speed use, you could have problems.

Diesels are like motorcycles....don't bother getting one unless you plan on doing the work Yourself, cause it's expensive.

Really appreciate your honesty and objectivity with your presentations: the Dealership you work at is very lucky to have you on staff! RnMT

Ive been running F-2,3, and 450's for 20 years, and hard. Most reliable truck in the oil patch. They have all been diesels.

Very nice review young man. I too was considering the Diesel but you made a terrific point of cost of service and turbo maintenance and also the additional cost of the Diesel engine changed my mind to go with Gas engine. Thank you. Great review. Keep it going.

I picked up a 2018 6.2L F250 FX4 last weekend and added the 6 yrs/100,000 mile warranty for $40 more a month...covers everything...well worth it. Truck is amazing so far after going from F150's.

Thanks for the info dude, I wanted a diesel cause getting an f250 w gas engine is like getting a mustang with a 6 engine but you hit some good points in your vid and I think a gas f250 is perfect for me

Great video, looking at upgrading my F-150 and asking this exact question, do I need the diesel? Thanks for the informative video with data and facts!

Great video, helped me make my purchase decision for my next truck !

Very helpful information. Thanks for the video!

I just test drove an F250 Gas and an F350 diesel both crew cab short bed Lariat models. Drove the F350 first and was impressed on how quiet it was. Up and down hills on the road was effortless and pickup from dead stop was not sluggish at all. When I drove the F250 on the same hills I needed more pedal and it seemed the truck down shifted more to handle the pull. I'm sure the gas would have no problem handling this truck but I felt it would burn through MUCH more gas than the diesel. It comes at a price BUT to me the diesel felt like the better fit.

great video. well done. I am for the gas version, due to costs and do not need the higher towing capacity. thanks

I purchased a f250 gas and was stuck between getting a gas or diesel. I eventually picked gas and have been absolutely enjoying the performance. The points you pointed out is very true. If you don't have a purpose as to the power and needing it as to towing capicity, the gas will do the job. Besides the up keep as to cost is really a pocket breaker. Be Ready for High Cost with diesiel. Good Informative Video and Pointers.

I've had both a 2016 f350 dually and a 2018 f250 gas both were superdutys. and I would definitely buy another (gas) one. To much maintenance on the diesel and I hated adding that deff fuel.

ty my friend, exactly the info I was looking for especially with the 2017 model. you're doing God's work my friend keep up the good work.

Great video! I drive a 2017 F250 Lariat FX4 with the 6.2 gasser and LOVE my truck. Occasional 30' travel trailer towing, and a daily driver. I truly believe that the vast majority paying $9,000.00 for the diesel option are throwing their money away.

Really impressed with MPG on the diesel vs the gas.

Recently was dealing with the same questions all across-the-board. I was starting off with a 2016 F150 with a 3.5 L TwinTurbo motor. Wow only halfway through my line I was already in the 90,000 mile range. I thought it best that I tell a trailer every once in a while to upgrade to a larger truck and for the sake that I just love the stance of the F250. Nevertheless with discounts and rebates in a great dealership I was able to get my payments down within $100 of my original payment for twice the truck and a 2019 F250 6.2 L V8. I will say I am overwhelmed with how much I love this truck.. I took a lot of grief for my selection and felt like everybody slam me for not going with a diesel but I would say to everyone else it’s easier to spend someone else’s money and at the end of the day I am not dragging a skid loader or farm equipment I drive this thing around like it’s my mobile office and when it comes to gas that’s one of my biggest expenses so at this point I’ll stick with my selection and I am very pleased!

Just as appoint of reference, the powertrain warranty on the 6.7 is 5 yr, 60,000 miles. Only the engine itself is 5 yr/ 100,000 miles.

Thank you for emphasizing mpg on both. I know this video is older but I just saw it now since I’m looking for this type of info on the f250. How bout doing one on the 2020-2021 and include the 7.3 gas truck in the mix.

after 4 diesels best I can say is have 12G in your pocket at all times and at least 3 buddy's with winches on there trailer! get the 6.2 with 4.30s and if you really over 16,500 get a peterbilt

I have the 6.2L gas and for towing my 8,800 lbs trailer in does very well. I'm getting about 21 mpg highway solo and 12 mpg towing.

Thanks man. Great vid

For me the gas engines do the job. Even my current 1998 f150 that's getting 13 mpg but I will be getting a diesel for my next truck even though I don't need it

My 6.7 cost 109 oil change and i do it every 7-10k miles depending on how much HWY and Towing I did. Also Fuel Filters need to be changed every 15k miles. Put a K&N air filter. I just drove from Alvin Tx with 1001 lbs of chemical in the truck bed. I have a Fx4 F350 4 door. 2nd Gen 6.7 w/upgraded 440hp engine (bigger turbo) I believe i have 35 gallon diesel tank. I reset trip/mileage and began. I did whatever the speed limit was and on cruise. I live on cruise control. I made it all the way to Tallahassee Florida with no fuel low warning. I had 89 miles to empty. It was 730 miles fuel station to fuel station. hit baton rouge bridge traffic and nola bridge traffic and that was it. I got 23 miles per gallon and it said i used 32 or 33 gallons. Im just highly impressed with how much bang i get. My buddy was following except hes 21yrs old and doesnt think cruise control actually helps. He has to fuel up in Pensacola. Iwould pick the Diesel over Gas any day. If you arent a tower then go F250. F350 suspension is tougher for more load. Speed wise. You did 0-60 which isnt fair for trucks that are Heavy AF. Mine goes from 55 to 99 faster then you can say just the tip. You flat out fly and I smoke all these little 6.0 egr deletes. they may catch me over a 100 since it cuts me off but thats not why they spent all that money . Go 6.7 Diesel anyday of the week. The DEF isnt that much of an annoyance. You get alerts when 500miles left and can run reports. Best Truck Ive ever owned. its my 3rd ford diesel and by far the best

Great video, I would never use a diesel to it’s full potential. 6.2 gas all the way

Great video!!

I appreciate very much that you don't sound like the typical Ford salesman trying to shake out every last penny from the customers. You're actually giving us an honest side by side comparison. Last year, I purchased a 2016 F350, DRW, RWD, 6.2 gas, 3.73. The purpose it serves is hauling a 5000 pound truck camper for 4-7 days per month. If I ever pull a trailer, it will either be a U-Haul or a boat. So while I needed the dually package for heavy payload, my combined weight is low. MPG isn't much of a factor for me because I only drive it about 3000 miles per year. Having the weight of the camper and no off-roading, I have no need for 4wd. I also appreciate seeing extra room under the hood, (unlike diesel where it's too crowded). But most of all, as a truck driver, my decision to go with the 6.2 comes from exhaust filter problems I've seen with some of the trucks I've driven. My only regret is the 3.73 rear end.

Excellent comparison without the bias. Like you said excellently 10 years or drive it to the wheels fall off just to break even. Great video and great comparision

Great info, thanks!

My dad has both a 1995 F-350 5.8 and a 2015 F-150 5.0. While his F-350 is a rust bucket now, when it was his daily driver it did everything he needed it to. Pulled his boat, hauled firewood, plowed snow more than anything in recent years, and hauled many car parts. His F-150, while it is only his weekend cruiser since he dailies a 2000 Tahoe. However, it gets decent fuel economy for a full-size crew cab pickup. We have hauled occasional heavy loads in the bed and pulled his boat once, did just fine.

Great job guys, love the vids. Keep them coming. I'm not sure if y'all have already made any videos on the new 2017 Mustangs ordered for your dealership lately with a Roush package, GT 350 or Shelby edition if you sell those. Keep up the great work! Billy D

Perfect video! Great! Thank's!

Here's my thoughts, the 6.2l has been a very reliable engine, some hot shot drivers have half a million miles on them, with nothing more than basic maintenance and following Fords recommended service. The 6.7L has some quirks with the DEF heaters going out and that's about it. 11-12 had turbo bearing issues, but that was resolved. You can get 15mpg worth the 6.2 but you can get 20mpg with the 6.7 both empty.

I work for Ford motor company at a local dealership. If I were to buy a super duty, I would get the 6.2 gas engine. Much cheaper to buy, and much cheaper to maintain. Fuel milage difference isn't much of a factor. The super duty trucks we work on, most of the gas trucks average 15, and most the diesel trucks average 16. If you are towing heavy every weekend, or daily, get the diesel, it is going to tow better. If you are towing heavy once or twice a month or less, get the gas engine. On the other hand if you need or want a truck and are towing once or twice a month or less, and it isn't that heavy, get an F-150 5.0, which is going to ride better than a super duty and get better milage, and will most likely be able to tow what most average consumers need to tow.

@Big Truck Big RV made a good point regarding the F150 vs the F250. If you're actually planning on towing heavy weight (over 10k) the extra mass, and heavier suspension of the 3/4 ton will make the trailer more controllable.

Great job a lot of help Thanks

I've been driving F250 2wheel drive gas burners (6.2 L) since 2005. They get 15mpg overall, up to 18 highway, 11 if you tow an enclosed 6x14 trailer.

Importance of Balancing loads when towing, how engine brakes, electric brake assists work, turning safely - depending on truck/trailer length turn radius and how to practice and get to know your rig setup before hitting the road, importance if tire ratings and tire pressures and Temps when towing.... Thank you for helping us to understand the differences and things to know before shopping. A recommendation about keeping payloads to 80% of max just to be safe (also need to make sure your tow vehicle can Stop the weight it is pulling). Be Safe and have fun if you can! Peace.

Great video

Maybe show possible addons or accessories you can put in the truck. Maybe tips in maintaining a truck like washing it. There are more topics out there. Love your guys' videos. Look forward for the upcoming ones

Heavy towing, lot's of miles get the diesel, lower lb. towing, less miles get the gas.

Thanks for the comparison. today (3/10/17) where I live, to break even on the diesel added costs you would have to drive it more than 220 k miles. these costs are for fuel, oil changes, fuel filters, and DEF (mild driving). A lead foot or towing heavy loads will up this miles to break even. Reliability is another variable that is too iffy to crunch.

I love my 6.7 diesel and I'll love it even more when I do a delete.

In 15-20 years, when my 2002 7.3 starts to wear out, I'll get a 2017+ 6.7l.

I have a 2015 F-350 Crew Cab, Diesel Dually, 6.7liter, twin turbo, 4:10 rear with an 8' bed. My truck has power whenever you need it and does around 13 - 14 mpg while being a quick accelerator at the same time. I wish the interior had less plastic but other than that the Ford is the best hands down. Dodge is right there with the Ford also. Excellent job. Thanks for the video. Great job. Good luck and God bless.

I’d like to see you guys do some tow information on the F-150. Talk about what upgrades would make it a safer tow vehicle. For example, I put a leveling kit on my 2018 F-150, upgraded the front shocks and put on 5000 lb air bags by Airlift. I plan to upgrade the rear shocks as well. I pull a 6500 lb (dry) trailer and it does great.

Well done!

My 5th wheel is 14500 lbs and my 6.2 F350 srw pulls it like a champ! I had a dually 6.7 cummins years ago and its just not necessary imo.

I would like to see a video on how to work the exhaust brake. I dont get it.

great video. the 6.7 diesel engine is the same engine of the last year version or is new?

Awesome 😀 😀 2017 Ford F-250 Super Duty review .

Great video. I have a 2016 diesel 250. No I don't need it but it makes a statement. I'm the boss and I'm successful is what it says to customers when I roll up. First impressions are everything and this does it very well. If I can get some solid facts that the 2017 gets better mileage than the 16 then I'll buy a new one. Does anyone else know the answer to that? Right now I'm at 14-16 with no trailer. I'd love to hear from anyone that bought one already. Keep up the good work!

Love both of our 6.2L Superduties. We have 2012's. One at 80K and one at 60K Miles. Nothing but gas tires and oil.

amazing that the old 7.3 and Cummins 5.9s are still the most reliable diesels available

These modern trucks have reached the engineering level where the tires are the limiting factor in what you can tow. A 5th wheel puts a solid 20% of the trailer weight min almost squarely over the rear axle. A conventional trailer with weight distribution gear will put 12-15% of the trailer weight on the truck, and a decent portion will transfer to the front axle. That's why you are starting to see higher weight ratings for pulling conventional trailers vs. 5th wheels.

Thanks a lot!!

Most people don't buy diesels because they're worried about towing they buy a diesel so they can get it tuned so it'll sound badass and blow smoke everywhere😂😂

You had a great video

I have multiple 6.2L trucks and multiple 6.7L trucks. If you don't tow almost every day with the 6.7L plan on putting new exhaust and egr cooler at 150k miles or delete it. If you tow with the 6.2 every day you will replace the transmission at 150k miles. I have had 5 of each and never had an engine come apart on either. 99% of people that buy diesels don't need them. They just make them more expensive for the guys like me that actually do need them.

Got a 17 f350 6.2L I honestly like it more than diesel, super great truck

towing through the rockies, someone told me gas has a hard time vs diesel. what can you tell me?

Also, you can idle a 6.2L all day with the ac on in Louisiana in August, and it's just as cool as Drew Brees on a Sunday in December.

and the F450 at 32,500 pounds of towing. very impressive.

Great Info! only thing that could make it better is Tow 10,000 Lbs Trailer behind each of them, I know the gas engine will be shifting quite a bit more than the diesel.

For me it would depend on what I needed the truck for. If I'm consistently towing over 10-12k lbs on a regular basis, then give me the diesel. If I'm just looking for some flashy lifted 4x4 to ride around in, then a gas engine will do everything I need. Same as if I'm buying an F-250 to use for plowing snow; the 6.2 is more than capable for most peoples' needs and is a very good engine. A 6.2 will tow 8-10,000 lbs all day long, and do it on regular 87 octane. Anything more than that, consider the 6.7 diesel. I know a couple guys that have the 6.2 and none of them are sorry they bought it!

Great Video! My brother just ordered an F250 6.2 Gas. He made the decision based upon how he will use the truck and what he tows 8K max. He has 2005 F150 now that does the job, but always wanted a 250. Anyway, just about everybody that he knows have second guessed him telling him that he will regret the decision. It seems to me that many people who opt for diesel don't do their research or believe that a Super Duty is not really a Super Duty unless it is diesel.

love my diesel i got a few months ago, had to get the diesel for everything i pull.

really like the f450 super duty platinum my question is it ok to use it as a daily driver no plans on towing or really hauling anything but like the idea of if I need to i can my question is is this ok too do without harming the truck

I chose an 8.1 Big Block over a Duramax, and I'd do it again.

That 6.2 Gas is a reliable motor I know of one in an E250 van with 560,000 miles on it they have only changed the plugs and coil packs once and had to replace one oxygen sensor in all those miles. running Mobile full synthetic oil changing it every 5000 miles.

Pulling a 30ft. featherlite cattle trailer, with GVW of around 36,000, diesel all the way. By the way, my rear end gear is a 3:70. A 2011 350, dually, more than enough power. It was only $35,500 back then, I did get the 4 outside chrome wheels, spray in bed liner, with a 5th wheel hitch included. Other wise no cab options, vinyl seats. Regular cab. Had one injector go bad on it, it was still under warrantee, but $100 deductible. They are $507 each, + install. I think what happened with it, they over tightened metal bracket that holds it in the engine, because that was broke when they got to it. It didn't blow out of the engine, it was vibrating a little. Recently had one of the back disk brake rotors break, it crushed together, the cooling gap, was able to continue to drive home & about, it did make some disturbing bang sounds when it finally settled down. Other wise no damage to the caliper or pads, which were new a couple months prior.

A friend of mine solved this debate for me... the answer is nobody. He traded his F350 diesel for the gas model. Hauling cars and various hotshot loads at 30,000lbs+... his operating costs dropped waaaaaay down, without any noticeable drop in productivity. The only drawback was slightly less speed on the hills, but his bottom line still had him smiling. Cheaper fuel, cheaper maintenance, no DEF, lighter front axle load, less noise, cheaper to replace, cheaper insurance, and more fuel options (from E85 through 98 octane, where available). The diesel engine is not a "need"... it's a want. If you think you absolutely must have the fastest truck under 30k lbs load, go to a Chevy dealer and buy a Duramax. If you want dependability with near equal productivity and lower operating costs, buy the gas model.

Great video, but it would have also been nice to see the specs for the F-350 SRW.

The 1/2 ton trucks don’t push snow as well here in New England, I like the overall cost of ownership with the gas

I bought the gas 2016 F-250 XL 2 weeks ago. I just wanted a basic truck for camping, hunting, various outdoor activities, and lite towing from time to time. I didn't a fancy luxury truck. My only requirements were that it had 4x4, an 8' bed, cruise control, and an automatic (the wifey hates a standard). I thought of getting the diesel, but I simply couldn't justify spending an extra $9K for an engine. I'm happy with my purchase, although I miss the gas mileage of my Subaru.

Do you think that the ride quality between the two engines is noticeable? I have heard that the diesel rides better due to more front end weight.

I only purchased a super duty for the look of them and I pull a horse trailer once in a blue moon nothing my f150 couldn’t handle I really like the 6.2 has plenty of power 190k and it runs good

I bought my diesel because when I was looking around at used duallys, I couldn't find one I liked with the gas Motor, the one that I did look at was 6 years older, wasn't the lariet, and had more miles. Had I found this same dually with the v10 for only a few grand left I definitely would have bought it

Nice truck

👍Good info

I am planning a year long trip around the country. I will be pulling a 34 foot 7,500lbs camper over 30,000 miles. Gas or diesel f250?

I've owned both gas motors and diesels in Ford Super Duties. To each their own but after trying to go the gasser route I found that I constantly had "diesel envy" It's hard to go back after experiencing the power and efficiency of a turbo diesel. As a result, my last two Fords have been 6.7 diesels. Up front cost is higher but this is recouped by the 20-30% increase in fuel efficiency (especially when towing) and the additional resale at trade in time.

Having both gas and diesel at work. And having a f150 (personal truck) now, I’m getting a f250 6.7 because 1 they get better mileage, 2 I like to tow at 80 not 70, 3 I’m only getting the bigger truck to tow with. While the new trailer with 4 horses in it will only weigh in at 16000-17000lb. Fully loaded and a gasser could pull it. The costs of +9k up front and higher maintenance costs are still lower than cost of gas and transmissions, and wearing out your engine at 5000rpms while pulling the hills or fighting head winds in the mid west.

A review on the f450 pick up an f450 an f550 cab & chassis for who needing for commercial use such as a tow truck ?

I have 2018 F250 gas, and i am getting 10.8mpg. What the reason for this truck in the video getting alot more per gallon?

I have a 2013 f-350 6.7 diesel love it they need to make them sound like diesels again love mine

it doesnt matter what i need its what i want diesel diesel diesel diesel :D

What are your thoughts on next years Super Duty 7.3L GAS 500+ HP and 500+ft-lbs Torque? What will the Payload and Tow capacity?

Ya know, so many opinions here and much appreciated. I am looking at both right now and I plan to buy a Camper Trailer, about 8,000 lbs. It is a heavy duty camper that I plan to drag to really out of the way places, but it is still only 8,000 lbs. What do you all think about this?? I have an F150 now and think that 8,000 lbs is just a little too heavy.

Jeep wrangler unlimited rubicon recon with 2.8 crd or this truck? Which is more reliable?

what would be the axle trailer weight for towing on the 150 diesel

I personally would like to see more comparisons (like this one) between the different configurations and engine for the 150 eco boost. And I'm excited for the new diesel but I'm sure you guys will be all over that anyways when it comes out! Also I am in the process of getting a 6" lift on my old f250 from 05. It's just a fun project. I live in brogue PA, around here there's lots of off roading and muddy spots to have some fun in. Anyways, I've found it hard to get a professional opinion when it comes to things like what kind of kit to get, how big should your tires be (35"-40" or for me 295/65r20 cooper att pro so 35") and do I need to re gear my truck. I hear that depends on the application for what I'm gonna be doing. I would just like to hear a professional opinion. I don't know how often you guys deal with lifting and off roaring sport but around here it's all about jeep.. literally my ford dealer can't help me with ford lifting info but can with jeep.... oh well haha. Anyways great videos. Very informative. I would get diesel only for the longevity. Diesels last longer and a lot of people like the idea of that. I agree. Why would you drop 60-80k on something that will only last 200-300k miles??

Cool book stats, now let's here some actually important information that has experience behind it rather than reading off of a piece of paper that you can find on all the windshields

Oh, boy. Before I bought my diesel, I spent roughly a year researching and comparing the pros and cons of diesel vs gas engines to make sure that I was spending my money wisely. As far as power and economy, you're simply not going get the level of power and efficiency from a gas engine that diesel engine does. That's simply the nature of the two systems. I agree, the EGR systems in new diesels are a bane on their existence, but EGR deletes are as common as anything. Also, with the added weight of a diesel engine comes durability and longevity. These engines are heavier because they use stronger materials to cope with the higher pressures associated with them. Where most gas engines are good for about 200k to 250k miles, a diesel engine can easily double, even triple that. And with diesel prices being so close to gas prices (around here, anyway), diesels have the clear advantage. Why else would they be making mini diesel engines for Colorado's and Ram 1500s if they weren't highly reliable, durable, and efficient (not to mention all the foreign diesel cars running around). One of the biggest arguments against diesels are the repair and fuel costs. After researching the average cost of ownership for comparable diesel and gas vehicle, I found that you actually save anywhere from $2,000 to $7,000 on depreciation, fuel costs, insurance, maintenance and repairs for a diesel when compared to a gas alternative (period for the study was 5yrs). That means that you're better off buying a Chevy Silverado 2500HD with the 6.6 Duramax engine than a Chevy Silverado 2500HD with a 6.2 Vortec (or Ford/Dodge alternatives) - assuming you take care of your vehicle. And you'll have far better resale value for a diesel than you will for a gas pickup. Just ask any guy who owns an LBZ Duramax... And to the folks who say, "Why do you have a diesel if you don't tow/haul anything?!" Well, apart from all the benefits that I have already listed, your argument struggles to hold water, to begin with. I see plenty of half ton and 3/4 ton gas pickups running around that never haul anything, let alone hook up to a trailer. Also, I see just as many, if not more, gas trucks jacked up and lifted as I do diesels, and they lose all that much more power when lifted. So, again, your argument is invalid. In reality, buy whatever vehicle suits you. If you want a diesel, by all means, buy a diesel. If you want a gas truck, then buy a gas truck. They both have their benefits and downfalls. I love my fuel efficiency, durability, power, and all that, but I don't enjoy replacing injectors. It's nice to be able to hop in a gas vehicle and go, too. But I don't think I'll be going away from diesels, anytime soon.

I have a 2003 f250 super duty with 340,000 miles running strong and low maintenance worry. Has a very small slight slip on second gear while shifting but its been like that for 2 years and still towing junk cars with it like that.

I own a 2015 F-150. It's absolutely brutal to tow with. Brutal.

Pulling is all good but what about the stopping, controlling, handling?

Really? That video covered everything we need to know between Ford Super Duty Gas and Diesel engine? I hope the people choosing gas for towing and hauling enjoy listening to the transmission searching for the proper gear and the sound of the engine scream while turning the high RPMs in the mountains. I've been there and done that with a Triton V-10. If I was trying to save money I wouldn't of purchased a fifth wheel and another truck. Here's a thought, the BEST truck for a person in Florida isn't going to be the BEST truck for the person who climbs the Colorado Rockies.