2017 Hybrid Physx: AMD RX 480 + nVidia GT 1030 [Working]

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incontrovertible

incontrovertible

Күн бұрын

Summer 2016 nVidia lifted their artificial restriction that locks Physx off when an AMD GPU is installed.
0:00 CPU Physx
2:33 GPU Physx
5:07 No Physx
This video was recorded using a C985 capture card @ 720p from a second computer that is usually dedicated to streaming, the main computer is completely unaffected by the recording. There is no sound as I recorded the microphone by accident.
I can confirm it works with all the Arkham series (Smoke isn't accelerated in Knight but the other toggles like Cloth are). It will work with all games that use Physx just like a dual Nvidia setup except for games that assume the presence of an AMD card disable it. Unfortunately Warfame does this but GPU Physx is being phased out of it so it isn't as big of a deal in the end.
Hybrid Physx [ physxinfo.com/wiki/Hybrid_PhysX ]
Dedicated Physx [ • PhysX Cards - 10 years... ]
Computer
- CPU: Intel Ivy Bridge i7 3770k
- GPU: MSI RX 480 GAMING X 8G
- PPU: ASUS GT1030-SL-2G-BRK
- RAM: 16GB DDR3 G.Skill TridentX (one dead stick =[)

Пікірлер: 36
@GRAN_EME
@GRAN_EME 4 жыл бұрын
does batman knight works interactive smoke?
@bekirparlak2667
@bekirparlak2667 3 жыл бұрын
hbryd physx program ? please
@billforigno
@billforigno 5 жыл бұрын
Can you verify that the effects that Physx is responsible for do in fact manifest via the output from the AMD card, and not just the NVIDIA card's output? Asking because I'm not certain about which cosmetic differences to be looking for here. I just want to decide whether to leave my old GT 730 in my case after an AMD addition.
@incontrolol
@incontrolol 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the lateness of this reply but yes it is being Physx accelerated with the AMD card being the output, the easy way to tell is the paper flying about and getting caught on things. Unfortunately a GT 730 will not be powerful enough and will bottleneck the main GPU, something closer in spec to a GT 1030 will do the job (ie closer to or above 384 CUDA cores).
@youtuberobbedmeofmyname
@youtuberobbedmeofmyname 5 жыл бұрын
I really, really want to try this but my mobo only has one pcie slot :(
@MedlinMasbor
@MedlinMasbor 5 жыл бұрын
pcie riser is what you need..its about 6-9 bucks
@user-cr4ot9pm8s
@user-cr4ot9pm8s 4 жыл бұрын
How did you do it?
@lolikawaii5865
@lolikawaii5865 5 жыл бұрын
looks good. was very surprised that it is truely possible. but what if PPU will be even older and cheaper than 1030? what if I use something like geforce 8800 or 9600 series? will there be any difference?
@avisso5467
@avisso5467 5 жыл бұрын
It will bottleneck your main Gpu, come on man, these cards are slow as a fuck
@lolikawaii5865
@lolikawaii5865 5 жыл бұрын
but this video showed me the exact opposite thing: the 1030, which is surely not capable to show such high fps in this game, calculates only physics here, so it is not involved in main graphic calculations, so it doesn't bottleneck the game in any way. thats why I assumed the nvidia card in this setup can be any card that has hardware physX. or please argument why exactly 1030 is not a bottleneck, but 8800 should be a bottleneck? because as long as they calculating only physics I see no difference which nvidia card to use.
@avisso5467
@avisso5467 5 жыл бұрын
man just watch Linus tech tips about physx cards
@lolikawaii5865
@lolikawaii5865 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched a couple of his videos which were about physX, and there was nothing said about geforce+amd hybrid. could you please give me a link to correct video?
@avisso5467
@avisso5467 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fp-ejbp2ytHRaZc.html well it's Nvidia + Nvidia but meaning it's the same (powerful GPU with slow GPU)
@svenf5888
@svenf5888 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, just what I searched for. So for conclusion: 1st try is "free" PhysX, if you have no Nvidia GPU, the CPU runs PhysX. Depending on your CPU, it runs more or less ok-ish (or does it matter? Does PhysX run the same on an Pentium vs. i7?). 2nd try is is with your 2nd card, GT 1030, running the normal PhysX, 3rd bench is PhysX off. So, Batman is an old game, and the wiki-list of PhysX games isn't that much... If you can get a cheap/used 1030, it's ok for a few games, but it isn't recommended. I have questions, perhaps you know: 1) are there more games with PhysX implementation, perhaps just the CPU part, which isn't on the NV marketing, but if you run a NV-card, the game would run better? 2) would a GT 1030 bottleneck a Vega56? 3) do you own Metro Exodus to show the difference in the newest PhysX game? Would be nice if you have time to reply :)
@incontrolol
@incontrolol 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Yep Run 1 is Physx on CPU, Run 2 is Physx on GPU, Run 3 is Physx off. Doing GPU accelerated Physx on the CPU you'd need much more base performance to overcome the hit so I wouldn't generally recommend it. The list of Physx games is very small and the list that is actually accelerated by a second card is even smaller, for instance while the Borderlands series has GPU Physx it is not accelerated by the second card. A lot of games do have a CPU-only Physx implementation, ArmA 3 uses it for things like tyres for example, this version cannot be GPU accelerated however so having an Nvidia GPU or dedicated accelerator does nothing unfortunately as it already performs optimally. I don't think a GT 1030 or similar spec card (newer or older) would bottleneck any current main card, Physx in general is a performance hit though. I don't have Metro Exodus at the moment, hopefully sometime in the future, I have no idea however if Exodus would be able to use a second card. Newer games with 'Physx' have it as part of GameWorks which can work differently, in Batman Arkham Knight I can accelerate everything with the dedicated Physx card except smoke, luckily for that game the effects are individually toggled. It's cool to have the dedicated Physx card but as with any dual GPU systems there are often headaches associated running the config daily, it is pretty great having the option to do it though.
@MedlinMasbor
@MedlinMasbor 6 жыл бұрын
so your main gpu is rx 480 right?
@incontrolol
@incontrolol 6 жыл бұрын
That is correct and I can confirm it works with all the Arkham series (Smoke isn't accelerated in Knight but the other toggles like Cloth are). It will work with all games that use Physx just like a dual Nvidia setup except for games that assume the presence of an AMD card disable it. Unfortunately Warfame does this but GPU Physx is being phased out of it so it isn't as big of a deal in the end.
@MedlinMasbor
@MedlinMasbor 6 жыл бұрын
currently im running on xfire rx480, im not sure which nvidia card that can handle the physx. i do have gt 740 as my prevs gpu but i sold it :/ i'll try to test later with my friends gpu since he has GT 4xx i cant remember. any tutorial out there mate?
@incontrolol
@incontrolol 6 жыл бұрын
Yep so CUDA and Core Frequency matter the most for a dedicated Physx PPU but you don't have to go crazy. Something like the GT 1030 with 384 CUDA Cores is good, but what in my opinion makes it probably the best all-round option is the price ($80-$100AUD brand new) and that you can get fanless versions that require no extra power making them very easy to install, usable in something else later on and by being brand new have better support now and in the future. Any Nvidia card of similar spec will also run Physx well but are generally older, bigger, hotter and hungrier; if that's what you can get for free though it's not a bad option. Probably the most easily accessible and understandable video on dedicated Physx is LTTs "PhysX Cards - 10 years later do they still suck??" which is linked in the video description.
@ArtisChronicles
@ArtisChronicles 6 жыл бұрын
it's funny because I was going to see if anyone got this working as I actually have these two cards, but I was considering purchasing a gtx 260 to try this with.
@incontrolol
@incontrolol 6 жыл бұрын
Yep it most definitely works. I changed my setup slightly recently however which necessitated changing the GTX 1030's DVI to the same monitor as the RX 480 instead of driving it's own monitor. This allowed it to still function, however I get catastrophic system crashes making it unusable. I will try an EDID Emulator in the near future to see it that works the same as a second monitor, but until then actually using it for a second monitor works well.
@davedtine
@davedtine 5 жыл бұрын
download link from Hybrid Physx .....
@incontrolol
@incontrolol 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understand sorry
@davedtine
@davedtine 5 жыл бұрын
i can find the Hybrid Physx mod for downloading
@zerotolerance5581
@zerotolerance5581 4 жыл бұрын
@@davedtine I know this is an old comment, but this is not a mod. This is running an AMD card with a Geforce card at the same time. The Geforce cards runs Physx, instead of the CPU.
@davedtine
@davedtine 4 жыл бұрын
@@zerotolerance5581 ah thx but you just need a HDMI domgle kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9l2bNSFkr7Gmqs.html
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