Ayrton Shelly and they aren’t biased at all. Unlike mxa and twmx

The other ones shill out to KTM too much

when will it finally be up?

Vital MX buying a new '19 YZF250 this wknd here in Michigan. Always loved Yamaha ..we have 2 YFZ450X quads too. #redbud

@@spalazzi94 It's live!

I prefer the Rmz it suits my riding style,I will wait to see the 2020 Rmz250, if nothing changed i will get 2019,

@Michael Lindsay Great, thank you for the quick response!

Derek Hallman love the videos!

Derek Hallman ur good. Suzuki is sweet!

Go for the Suzuki in 450. My friend has that bike and loves it.

@Michael Lindsay Most shootouts mention the Honda CRF's lack of roll-on / bottom end torque. Not being the strongest engine, how would the new Suzuki RMZ250 compare to it? (more initial hit but less overal torque thru the rpms?) Thanks.

Go Suzuki every yr!

Shawn Doucette Yes I did too 2020 YZ250F

Boring.

Stanza 710 I bought the 2019 Honda and love it. I don’t ride it anywhere near it’s potential so don’t feel the issue they have with power but do feel the handling so overall for me that’s a winner.

RudeDog #999 nice man congrats! I really would love to try those new Honda’s or the Yamaha, the newest bike I’ve ever rode was a 2004 🤣 I’m pretty sure any of these would be have huge improvements lol

The TC on the Husky or KTM isn't really liked by our test riders on the 250s unless the track is extremely muddy or straight concrete. So it doesn't really add to either of their scores.

I would suggest the Suzuki, it has a very powerful engine and stiff suspension that is great for a bigger rider.

Suzuki meant for heavier people

230f is more of a sluggish power compared to these sort of race 250s.. jake

Cody Wells why would they set the spring rate for each riders weight? They’re testing stock bikes. They’re not gonna modify the bikes n change the springs on the shocks and forks for each n every rider. That doesn’t even make sense. They’re testing the bikes stock from the factory and adjusting what they can (sag, bars, controls, clickers) for each rider. You really want them swapping springs? Lol

Kawasaki and Suzuki don't have electric start 👍

@Michael Lindsay how was the 2019 kx 450 turning?I always have had Kawasakis but the front end is crazy and is very hard to turn. I have just tried the new honda crf 250 2019 and it turns great. Do you know if the KX 250 2020 will be as good in turns as you have tried the KX 450 2019 and know what to expect to be changed on the KX 250 for next year. I think I will buy the 19 honda and then buy the 21 KX when the re-do some of the things that did not work perfectly on the new changes on the 2020 250 KX

Mr. MidLifeCrisis it’s not a camera. It’s called a litpro it for record laptimes and you can view different lines you took on the track

@@Mxgoatman Correct!

@@Mxgoatman thanks!

Paul Oh I mean, I prefer honda over yam but they’re both great bikes. There’s no wrong answer, I’d say pick your favourite colour

I would rather a 2 stroke 250

Icewallowcome Reet of course you would

TEAM RED

Paul Oh depends, do you like short shifting or revving it out? If you short shift Yamaha, otherwise I’d say honda

It's in Nuevo, not a real track per se...just a hillside track we ride.

Any one of then except kawi

Thanks

450 offroad Shootout will happen in January, not sure we will do a 250 this year.

They refuse to participate.

Vital MX weird tactic.

Because it's a Shootout of the bikes in "stock" form...

Yes.

I have a 2016 kx250f and i feel the same. After a while i get used to it a lot but still i feel more comfortable on other bikes Especially Yamaha. 2019 kx450 thought felt perfect. I guess 2020 kx250f will have the same amazing chassis/ ergos

@Michael Lindsay Ok you are correct. I forgot I had to change the bars. I know you guys have to test them stock. When moving the stock bend (971 Renthal) bars to the front it also raises them a lot. I had to put a lower bend bar on it. With the bars forward, the pegs lower and forward and the flat seat, the bike can be ridden aggressive and is the most comfortable setup I have ever had and I have owned a lot of bikes. Im just offering this info to anyone who wants to read it. Good day Michael

Oh

Michael Lindsay are they scared they will come last 😂

Michael Lindsay that's a shame really

Lmfao naw bruh.

Regarde les video de MX reflexion...

Oe j ai vu mais ils les tests une par une alors il n y a pas de comparaison et donc pas de réponse à savoir laquelle est là meilleur.

@@maxencem3873 Moi je suis en 450 mais j ai essaye des 250 et la KTM est pour moi la meilleure(La husky j ai pas essaye)la yam est trop large et les autres manque de puissance...

@rob kerk merci pour tes infos , l année pro je me prend une 250 ( mais ac démarreur électrique ) plein le cul de prendre dés retour de kick lol

Daniel Sedletzeck definitely the worst sounding bike

As we've already answered over five times in the comments, TM refuses to take part in Shootouts.

@La Flama Blanca yeah that sounds about right

La Flama Blanca agreed

Y'all both fat

or maybe you just don't know how to ride and YOUR the slow one lmfao

If Yamaha is slow for you then all the 250s are slow... Or you are 2 fast...😉

Aidan m just need to catch on to the black triple clamps memo now

PS the RMZ looks killer

Chris John Michael damn straight

lmtada Well so does everyone else in the world.

8pjbh1996 definetly not. My Brother in law, is a Swede. He bleeds yellow/blue.

Ever rode a Kwakka?Ive had Hondas all my life and loved them but in 2015 i bought a KX450F and man its a awesome bike

lmtada yellow and blue is a trash bike, green and black is the way to go

Ralph Fader lmao!

Michael Lindsay I love how you’re out here roasting the haters

Michael Lindsay i know bro im just pullin your leg big dawg 😂🤙

Michael Lindsay while you’re answering questions how do I get your job 🤔🤔😂

Michael Lindsay welp guess I gotta keep bugging you. Lmao 😂thanks for the advice man. Love the content

KTM Husky and Yamaha were available for testing for several months now. The result of the shootout will not change even if they were doing it after a month. At least not for the the top three bikes. The only bike that could need a little more time is the Honda. Still is not a completely new model.

All our Shootouts are conducted in the same manner with three to four days of testing. As with most buddies jumping on each other’s bikes, it’s doesn’t take many laps to learn the characteristics of each motorcycle. Each day, the test riders ride 3-4 hours, so by the end of it they’ve done 10-12 total hours of riding testing, adjusting and playing with what’s available stock on each bike. Even by the last day, they have their rough orders laid out and just fine tune one or two of the bikes they’re deciding between somewhere in the order. Personally, our main test rider Michael Lindsay flew to Japan a few months ago to ride the Suzuki.

Vital MX tell his ass

You think they didn’t do enough testing to make a comparison review... but you agree with their order? So presumably you HAVE ridden all of the bikes for enough time to have a balanced opinion?! 👀

@@Mockle07 the order hasn't changed for quite awhile in my opinion. I've thought the Yamaha, ktm, and husky were at the top of the class for awhile. The kawi is good but not great at anything, and the honda wasn't changed enough from last year to make it better then the front 3. And the rmz250, much like the rmz450 from last year, didn't receive enough changes to top the other bikes. My point was not that the running order was flawed, my point is how can u know all the bikes long term weaknesses and strengths from only testing for just a few days or weeks. Look at motocross actions 450 test that took several months. They brought things to light that could only have been determined t hrougj several months of testing, and considering that each one of us that are going to buy these bikes are usually in it for the long term, it's best to take into account longer evaluations when testing. Just my opinion. I have nothing against vital mx what so ever, and in fact I do like there reviews.

Maxim Platica How can you say it needs to be on the podium if you have never ridden it? Their new bike isn’t even for sale yet, so how can you call it “fantastic?”

Spoiler dude

@@Dylans503han solo dies

Like you probably live in a creek

@Michael Lindsay haha mostly listening to cool podcasts and videos. You're welcome!

@Michael Lindsay that creek comment was replying to the original poster too. It wasnt addressed to you.

Da Rippa There is always one of these guys here... Yes two strokes are great fun, but you can’t race them in 250f classes.

@Michael Lindsay Yessir, and thanks for the production. Just listening to you on pulp and vital among other outlets, one can tell you have an insane passion for the sport. You also have a great knack at describing bikes and feel in a way we can relate to. Keep it up!