Thanks for the kind words, Mike!

Thank you!

With gas here at $2.60 / gallon thats 10 gallons of gas even 30 MPG with a garden variety Toyota Corolla would be 300 miles. With our 2020 Highlander Hybrid AWD t@ 40+ mpg that would give me over 400 miles. I don't see the bargain using that charging station....

That, and the bigger issue being the whole charging process itself. 1) Charging is too damn slow. If you have to use public chargers (I do) because you can't charge at home or work, it's a major hassle. With gas, you fill up in 5 mins. EVs... even a Tesla, not so much. And Tesla is the only car maker that got charging right to begin with. 2) Public chargers are insanely unreliable. It happens too often that I pull into a charger and it doesn't work. Once a month at least. Sure, I can usually switch to another charger at the same place, but again - when was the last time you had a malfunctioning gas pump? 3) Completely fractured charging systems. Some you need an app for. Others you can use a credit/debit card - if the reader works. Some require a RFID card. Some charge by minute, some charge by kWh. It's a bloody mess. 4) By far most chargers have no roof or anything. If you have to charge in bad weather, that's a whole lot of misery right there. Even worse when it's snowing and you end up with a pile of snow on the charge port. With the Kona in particular, Hyundai fucked it up beyond belief. There is NO weather stripping around the charge port door. Which means in winter it can easily freeze shut. I added weather stripping to mine, which solved the issue. Why, Hyundai, WHY?

EVs are most charged at home.....so that was just FUD (from you know what fanbase)......since Hyundai/Kia still have the most efficient EVs on the market...

It is so much cheaper to charge a Tesla and faster. It annoys me that Tesla is such an anti-consumer company they treat the people that purchase their vehicles like shit. Also being from Michigan I am almost 200 miles away from the nearest Tesla service station. A Kia or Hyundai or even a Chevy for that matter I can bring it down to have its yearly service done 10 minutes from my house. And if I wanted to do some of the simple work at home like just changing the brakes or something like that I can go down and get the parts easily from any basic auto parts store.

@@wombatdk I charge at home every evening, I dont have a special charger - just plug it into a normal wall plug. I even set the time i want the charging to start to avoid high tariff time when electricity is most expensive and my monthly "gas" bill for the car is around $13 - using the car every day to deliver the kids, go to work, shopping etc.

Electrify Canada has the same pricing structure but there is no deal for the Hyundai /Kia 's. They don't have many sites operating. They'd be the last choice for me. I gave them feedback and they actually called me to talk. It's up to the manufacturer to make a deal. Why not just reprogram the car's bms handshake to charge below 75 kW ... If EC or EA won't budge on the price.

My pleasure!

Don't know. Hyundai hasn't officially explained what they've done with the update and when all the cars get it.

My 2019 Kona has it, and it extends the higher-current charging for me, thus speeding up charging a little. It drops the speed later. Like, it now stays at 25kWh until ~84% whereas previously I think it dropped to 15kWh at ~76%, give or take. On the other hand, it far more agressively drops down past 90%. From 90% to 100% now takes me about 45 minutes I think. Edited: Corrected the numbers... I should not post comments when I am not at home. :)

Yep. I did the same. Video coming next week

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Great.. now if only you can get your hands on Kia Niro EV to do the same range/charging test, that would be awesome to compare with Kona Electric, knowing they will be similar, so the winner would get bragging rights...

In the public charging network yes in most states the rate is a lot cheaper to charge at home

No EV currently charges to 80% in 20 minutes. The Taycan is the fastest to 80% and can do it in 23 minutes. I agree it should be faster, but I believe if it had 100 kW charging that would be fine. It would then likely charge to 80% in about 35 minutes.

Despite claims to the contrary, battery technology is still pathetic. You can either charge fast and degrade the battery faster, or slow and bang your head against the wall waiting for the damned charge to complete. Yeah, there's plenty of claims that we'll have 5-minute charging with no battery degradation "soon". I've heard that bullshit for the last 10 years at least, if not longer.

@@wombatdk It's hardly "pathetic", it's a fundamentally different tech than the gasoline people are insistent it must emulate. Charging as fast as fueling up would be nice, but if someone actually takes trips over 300 miles regularly, they should probably stick to a PHEV like the ioniq. 20-30 minutes charge to 80% would cover the vast majority of use cases, it's just a matter of making a stop for a meal halfway through your trip.

@@Joesolo13 Battery tech _is_ pathetic. Charge speed is idiotically slow. Batteries get damaged by discharging too low - unlike an ICE which you can run to empty as often as you like. Batteries get damaged by frequently charging too fast or regularly charging to 100%. They get damaged by sitting around unused or sitting in extreme cold. All that is utterly pathetic.

I was curious so i did the math. 80% battery is 206 miles 206 miles at $26 dollars is 12.6 cents a mile National fuel average is $2.17 At $2.17 a gallon at 12.6 cents a mile that's only 17.5 miles a gallon. Pretty horrible. My RAV4 hybrid gets between 40 and 50 mpg.

So as I noted in the video, the true cost should have been $18.20, not $26. I only paid that because I didn't sign up with Electrify America as Kona owners would. That lowers the real cost per mile to 8.8 cents per mile. Plus, most people only pay DC fast charge rates on the rare occasion when they are driving long distances. When I charge the Ioniq at home, which is about 95% of the time I drive an EV, I pay 2.9 cents per mile. That's less expensive than your RAV4 even if it gets 50mpg. It's also important to note that the RAV4 hybrid is rated at 38 miles per gallon, so you must be a very efficient driver. If you drove an Ioniq, that efficient driving style would also allow you to go further in that vehicle also, so the cost per mile would be about 20% lower than we quoted here.

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I completely agree with that. I actually was looking at the Kona before the RAV4 which is why KZfaq recommend that video. Charging at home pretty much can't be beat by ICE. Its also worth noting I have an early deposit on a Rivian RT1 and can't be more excited for when they come out.

My brother has a 2021 Model Y and I have a 2021 Kona EV Ultimate. The average time between us charging is 20 minutes. That’s not to bad

Hell No. Its the other way around.

@@robinjacobsson250 I did my calculations carefully...

Depends on what car you compare the ev with and how much you drive in a given day. That is where the difference is. Its not guaranteed saving with any ev especially if you compare it to a basic ice 4 cylinder and you don't drive much.

Eh. Are you sure? Lol. Oil change + gas is way more. Btw this car full charge is $7.5 Canadian Dollars here