2020 Python vs S&W 686
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3 жыл бұрынComparing two similar revolvers, the 2020 Colt Python and the S&W Model 686. Both are chambered in .357 Magnum with four-inch barrels.
First Video with S&W Model 686-1: • S&W Model 686 -1 .35...
First video with 4" Colt Python: • 2020 Python 4.25" Barrel
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@MrInshoreslam Жыл бұрын
I have wanted a Smith and Wesson 686 since a co-worker showed me his over thirty years ago. For what ever reason during that time i was never able to get this "dream gun". I had resigned myself to the fact that of all the guns i have collected over those thirty plus years I just was never going to ever own this gun of my dreams. On Christmas morning the one and only present under my tree with my name was a beautiful 686 from Santa. i cried like a baby. Today I placed my first order for .357 ammo and i am looking forward to shooting it with my son for the first time after my next chemo treatment. Thanks for a great video Hickok45.
@jeremyclarkson-69 2 ай бұрын
Happy for you pal,this is also my dream gun ,may god bless you 💪🏼🇺🇲
@marcf9622 3 жыл бұрын
4:10 “The less experience you have; the less difference you notice.” Simply Profound
@Greyswyndir 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much common sense, not exactly profound. You're easily impressed. I can do this neat trick with my finger, I think you'd like it.
@Logan912 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and like he says, it can be applied to pretty much anything. It’s like when you’re starting out playing guitar and you want that $1000 Fender, but until you learn your way around a guitar then you won’t really know what makes it cost so much compared to a cheap Squire which in a lot of ways is just as good.
@NotoriousMastaG 2 жыл бұрын
@@Logan912 except the colt costs more than the SW lol
@Ensign_Cthulhu 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta start somewhere!
@johncox1570 5 ай бұрын
Well he is ex English teacher lol
@earnestsmith9696 2 жыл бұрын
Tough decision between the two. I ended up buying both (Wife doesn’t know yet). No regrets. I always look forward to taking them to the range. They are extremely accurate and fun to shoot. They are shooting machines. Python 2020 is 4.25” and 686 Plus is 4”. I hate my Dad died before he had a chance to see and hold them in his hands. He taught me all about revolvers. Update-just got the Colt Python 3 inch. It’s awesome.
@davidschaadt3460 2 жыл бұрын
She will get over it and learn to love them.
@boricuaarecibo9259 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to get one I just have to smuggle it into the house I have a 686 plus 4" a 586 4" and a 629 6.5" but I really need a 4.25" colt python
@LordJesusChrist1968 Жыл бұрын
I'm telling your wife Earnest...just kidding LOL 🤫
@earnestsmith9696 Жыл бұрын
@@LordJesusChrist1968 LOL,She caught me cleaning them. She is ok now.
@earnestsmith9696 Жыл бұрын
@@boricuaarecibo9259 that’s a solid collection!
@jamesolsen350 3 жыл бұрын
I had 3 Pythons that I sold. A 2.5" a 4.25" and a 6" bought new, beautiful looking weapons. The little hand that turns the cylinder failed me when I need it the most. Went and bought a Smith & Wesson 686+ 4" barrel. Then bought a 586 with a 3" barrel from Performance Center. Then found a Smith & Wesson 66F with a 3.5" barrel had to have it. All the Smith & Wesson have performed flawlessly. I do miss my blue 4" Python. I sold it to a friend of mine. He lets me look at it from time to time. Then my wife left me. Now I am happy.
@fredb.8383 2 жыл бұрын
Great story!
@davidschaadt3460 2 жыл бұрын
The real snake is gone?
@Dusty11408 2 жыл бұрын
I carried a Blue steel 6” Colt Python in the late 80’s early 90’s. You couldn’t beat the heft of that pistol and the smoothness of the trigger pull. The cylinder release broke while qualifying at a range day. Turned out a 5 cent spring broke which prevented the cylinder from releasing and rotating out for a reload. Glad it happened when it did. Ultimately I retired the Python and went back to my Departmental issued S&W 4” .38 revolver for on-duty carry. I loved carrying that Python though. 😎
@davidstamper7313 3 ай бұрын
Well said David😂
@alanpruett2217 3 жыл бұрын
The Python is the beautiful girl that commands your attention, while the 686 is your faithful wife. Love both revolvers, but have more faith in the 686.
@hickok45 3 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@pe.bo.5038 3 жыл бұрын
Well,then there is your French mistress,aka MR-73,and your German Fräulein aka Korth! Though choice!
@pe.bo.5038 3 жыл бұрын
@PatienceZero you bet,he knows them,but probably nobody of bis friends owns one
@hughmongous2554 3 жыл бұрын
Was about to make the same comparison! One looks and feels absolutely gorgeous, but you still marry the other.
@glenspryszak6005 3 жыл бұрын
@PatienceZero A Korth probably starts at $3500 so is it really worth it"? Yes, if you live 75 years and shoot it every day.
@jskrawz4611 3 жыл бұрын
I told my boss back in the early 90's that I wanted to buy my first gun... He was a gun nut so he took me to his favorite gun store and showed me a 686-3... 6" And next to it was a Python same length but much more expensive... He said they had issues and I should buy the Smith... 20 years later I'm glad I followed his advice... What a tack driver...
@rushfanjames2112 3 жыл бұрын
JS Krawz I had a similar choice also. Buying my first revolver, between a used Colt Python which costs more than a brand new 686, I chose the 686. Was never a fan of the Colts because of the cylinder release, chintzy reason I know lol. Seriously, both are great guns.
@jskrawz4611 3 жыл бұрын
@Al Primo Nope... It's to big and bulky to conceal somehow on my fat ass body... Now technically Michigan is an open carry state but you're just asking for trouble...
@jamesbarry6979 3 жыл бұрын
Only had my 686 for For 1 year Had to Branish it in phila last week. Guy road rages me, boxes me in 3 blocks from Art Museum, gets out of his car, and swings a Bully club at me sitting in car! Got windows up as he was approaching , he threatening me And I draw revolver in Broad daylight! Almost shot the Guy, Only because I was armed! He ran back to his car and took off Thanks Smith + Wesson!
@Ethercloud 3 жыл бұрын
@DemonSlayer ByKnight take it a step further, I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I have the right to defend myself.
@jamesbarry6979 3 жыл бұрын
@DemonSlayer ByKnight it happens so quick, I didn't know He was getting out of car" He had tint windows,, and hid Billy club than snapped it out! I was scrambling to get window Up! As soon as I did, than I pulled our Revolver! Game changer! Guy acting like Rioter! Many he saw my NRA decal, And he simply got mad I passed him from inside lane???.
@abevigoda3149 2 жыл бұрын
My dad loved the python so much he amassed a great collection, 27 of them in every barrel length and finish, my mother always bitched him for spending so much money to get them, now that great collection is worth a small fortune, I wish I was back in Texas to shoot the ones he used, several of them are brand new in their box, never used.
@captainbuck5969 Ай бұрын
My dad was a Python fan too. Me, I stuck with S&W. I wish I was back in Oklahoma.
@TheChaddie81 3 жыл бұрын
He always amazes me with his accuracy.
@austinstratman1809 Жыл бұрын
Best shooter since Henry McCarthy!
@smitty1hunter 4 ай бұрын
😆@grizz2532
@dougdownunder5622 2 ай бұрын
I'm in awe. The way he sets his upper body / arms is something to see.
@mvinge 3 жыл бұрын
Hickok’s pot smoking joke never gets old
@edotis3389 2 жыл бұрын
True That 😂🤣🤣
@jeffwilson4758 2 жыл бұрын
toke it up
@raymondreed2772 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned a 3" 686 since the mid "90s and I love it. I admire the beauty of the Python and would be proud to own one of them as well. These are two awesome firearms that anyone would be fortunate to have in their arsenal. Note: The 686 is heavy for concealed carry so I carry a Ruger EC9S far more often here in hot and humid Florida.
@ellisonlowrimore7751 3 жыл бұрын
Today I did a comparison and they both feel, operate, and shoot nicely. Price point is the Python is more than double the 686. I wanted a Python since the 80’s so I went that route.
@troydixson1394 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't rugar go with a key lock just curious?
@josephpreston3550 Жыл бұрын
@@troydixson1394 Had to do, as I understand it, with S&W being bought by a British company which made them subject to some US law abut foreign made firearms having to have a safety to sell in the US. I hate the Hillary Hole but I'm glad that S&W is still around. Ruger has always been US owned.
@mossymae 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently bought a prelock 686 plus in a 4 inch, with rubber hogue grips. Absolutely love it. My favorite pistol. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Its 330 am in Oklahoma. Always love me some Hickok 45 when I can't sleep at night.
@R.Tafolla 3 жыл бұрын
Hickock pointing at Colt Python: “This is brilliant...” Hickock now points at SW 686: “but I like this”
@ironmonkey1512 3 жыл бұрын
hes dead on with 686
@keithschneidly3922 3 жыл бұрын
The Troopers were/are a nice way to go. They had simpler actions than the Pythons, no underlug however. That being said a 586 or 686 has that beautiful underlug.
@Heywoodthepeckerwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@00buck2 you’ve never shot any of them have you?
@Heywoodthepeckerwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@00buck2 well,,, I can count to like a bazillion....
@coldteawater1716 3 жыл бұрын
This guy never runs out of ideas and always seem to to make us happy when we watch his vids.
@calvinnotklein6368 3 жыл бұрын
BROTHER
@gunningdownadream9861 3 жыл бұрын
He is a 🐐 Goat for sure. Very skilled and talented. Great entertaining videos
@michaeljosephjackson2364 3 жыл бұрын
I want to borrow some of his guns
@kremepye3613 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 i want to borrow his target range!!
@troydixson8097 2 жыл бұрын
Diff pricee on the python
@marshallwillis371 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 686 and my buddy had a Model 19. When we would go to the indoor range there was an immediate change in the acoustics of the range. Both shot well and were accurate. I had a bit more muzzle flare due to the 4" barrel compared to his 6" however both were a joy to shoot and view.
@user-su1uk9cb1e 4 ай бұрын
形はM19，M66の方が圧倒的に美しいが、耐久性はＬフレームのM686が必要。 バレルの形だけＫフレームの物みたいに出来ないんですかね？
@rickqueen2751 3 жыл бұрын
I've had in my possession a 6 inch 686-3 since 1989 that I paid $319 for brand new. It has never misfired and likes whatever ammo I put thru it. The best group I ever got was one ragged hole with all 6 shots at an indoor range at 50 ft. Averages 1 1/2 to 2 inch groups all day. Still looks new even with all of the magnums put downrange. No major maintenance ever done except when one chamber got out of time sending a round 3 or 4 inches from the group. S&W sent me a new cylinder at no cost ( lots of kudos to a company willing to do that) and groups are back to normal. It's a gun that just works. I'll never sell it and it will be in the family for a long time. Heard the python was having timing issues. Don't know if that's been corrected, but I just can't justify the price of the new pythons if they're defective.
@martincorona322 Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! 1989 is my year, too!
@rickqueen2751 Жыл бұрын
@@martincorona322 Thanks. Only accurate guns are interesting. Did you mean you have a 686 from 1989 or that you were born in that year? Just curious.
@martincorona322 Жыл бұрын
@@rickqueen2751 I was born that year.
@rickqueen2751 Жыл бұрын
@@martincorona322 Cool.
@mse3700 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video three times and I keep coming back to the same question... did the hat come with the shirt?
@mattsharkey8437 3 жыл бұрын
Fargon icehole
@mse3700 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattsharkey8437 That's right you sneaky bastage.
@ballisti007 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@mattsharkey8437 3 жыл бұрын
@@mse3700 you somanabitchese
@TheLogitech91 3 жыл бұрын
That's some funny shit.
@thomaswoosley4821 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80s Walmart sold handguns. When they decided to quit selling them, they marked down a Python to $450. I thought I needed $450 more than the Python so I passed. If I knew then what I know now!
@3ducs 3 жыл бұрын
There was one at a local shop yesterday, $3,000.
@Rick-tb4so 3 жыл бұрын
@@3ducs I have never paid over MSRP for a car and i am not starting with a Colt.. S&W 686 is 1/3 the price of a Colt..
@FlawlessRevelation 3 жыл бұрын
450 dollars in the 80s is close to 1,500 in today's market... Plus 40 years of storage, didn't seem like you missed much.
@jamesoncross7494 3 жыл бұрын
If you put the money in the stock market, you would have been much better off.
@TheRealZJE313 3 жыл бұрын
What is the price today
@TheNclandbroker Жыл бұрын
The S&W L-frame is the ultimate workhorse revolver, particularly the older pre-lock versions. Bull-strong, durable, well-balanced and smooth shooting. I definitely like the Python/Trooper as well, but for basically the reasons you cited I prefer the S&W.
@FungiHealthCoach 3 жыл бұрын
The first gun I bought was a 6 inch 686 and it is my absolute favorite out of all the guns I have shot. Thanks Hickok for all the great videos!
@mikelee6936 Жыл бұрын
I also have 2 686's. 6 inch and 4 inch stainless steel. I brought the 6 inch to a [ocal gun store to see if I could sell it. The guy took my gun and said I will be right back. He went into the back and returned 15 mins later and handed me my gun. He said, run you an add in the paper or on the internet to sell your gun. I said why? He said his boss won't pay over $ 250 for the gun. I said ok, what is it worth? He said, $ 800 to $ 1000 dollars. I found an honest man that day. I thanked him and walked out. Have never put the gun for sale.
@GreekGuru74 Жыл бұрын
@@mikelee6936 how do you like the 6inch vs 4inch? I'm torn between both lengths.
@mikelee6936 Жыл бұрын
@@GreekGuru74 I am the same way my friend. The reason I have one of each. The six inch is very heavy even in a scabbard.
@GreekGuru74 Жыл бұрын
@@mikelee6936 which one do you prefer to shoot? I'm a skinnier guy, I don't think I'd carry either of them on me, but they look like great shooters and something to take to the range.
@mikelee6936 Жыл бұрын
@@GreekGuru74 GreekGuru. I can't say which one that I lean towards, either one is a great shooter and looks new. They are both several years old but have not lost their stainless gloss or mechanical working. The 4 inch is somewhat easier to hold and handle, but the 6 inch is a hell of a pistol to shoot. Very accurate and beautiful to look at. The 4 inch has seen a little more use, but is a fine gun also. Don't know what to say to you other than that.
@u140225 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased a 586-4” back in 1998, have always loved the feel and incredible accuracy of this handgun. Just as demonstrated in this video, the Smith is always on target at 5, 10, 25, 50 yards and beyond with little effort. #love S&W586/686
@paulwilliams8555 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to know I have a 686 stainless what kind of people purchase the 586
@ricksworlddereaux2397 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly,the old S&W Revolvers are the best in the World.🇺🇸👍🤔But the new ones are not at the same Qualitylevel,because profits stands before Quality these days in the USA..thats why most best Handguns now are European.🤔🇪🇺🇺🇸
@rogercole5054 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwilliams8555 People who like blue guns, duh. A buddy of mine hates what he calls "shiny guns" and won't buy ANY stainless gun. I like both, but I kind of prefer blue myself in a revolver.
@Ed-ig7fj 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Bud, you are right. These 686's are so good at almost any range that I call mine 'pocked rifles.' Happy shooting! --Old Guy
@boricuaarecibo9259 Жыл бұрын
@@paulwilliams8555 I have a 586-8 classic and it's my favorite
@trucker85d47 3 жыл бұрын
Love the 686 it was my duty gun back in the 80’s still have it to day great gun to shoot love your videos 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@MaineOutdoorsChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Model 686 is a LOT of weight to carry... For me the Model 19 is a lot lighter to carry
@adar7198 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever it is,welcome to the 21'st century
@Ligmanuttz 3 ай бұрын
@@MaineOutdoorsChannelgrow up
@blairmorgan3029 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 6” 686 and it’s a very nice revolver to shoot. Accurate, reliable and just looks nice with the unfluted cylinder and satin finish. During comps I would struggle with the cylinder latch on the Python.
@raguilard 2 жыл бұрын
I got a S&W polished stainless steal 6" 686 with a 4 power scope. I had the same gun and scope 35yrs. ago and lost it to a pawn shop. About 20 years ago a guy I worked with had the same gun. He was needing money so I bought the ss 686 for $250.00 that I have now. I also have a M&P 40 w/a laser and I have put hundreds of rounds threw it and never had it to jam or misfire. S&W makes very good guns and I will be buying the new M&P 9mm CSX or the spec series kit.
@randyfurness5588 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same dilemma with my favorite caliber wheel guns. The solution: my wife bought a Colt Python. I have a Smith 586. My son has A Ruger GP100. All great revolvers. Quality and shootability about the same. We purchased the Python back in the 1980's when they were reasonable. I definitely wouldn't pay twice as much for the Colt.
@MThrow 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 6" Python in '81 and it was in that gorgeous bluing that was almost black. One of the sexiest revolvers ever made.
@Docsjeff 3 жыл бұрын
That Royal Blue finish on the Python was AWESOME!!!
@brandoncoomer7867 3 жыл бұрын
I have one just like it, still in the box and plastic wrap
@AudibleVisibIe 3 жыл бұрын
@@Docsjeff royal blue? I don't think it's royal blue....
@nightrider5109 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful piece you picked up
@dennisritchie965 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudibleVisibIe I believe that's what colt called there process.
@Mike0405H 3 жыл бұрын
I like how when John zooms in, you can see the bullet hit it’s target before the sound reaches
@69CamaroSS 3 жыл бұрын
Watch careful;y with slower rounds and you’ll see the bullet in flight as it approaches and then hits the gong....never gets old see those!!! 👍👍
@similaritiesendhere 3 жыл бұрын
The bullet hitting the target is what makes the sound. Of course the sound comes after the bullet hits. If the camera were next to the target, you'd see the bullet hit before you heard the actual gunshot (not the gong). That phenomenon is not in this video.
@realist8967 Жыл бұрын
686 any day. Carried 4' on duty for years. When we transitioned to semi autos (mostly for round capacity), it was a letdown.
@francischambless5919 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I admit even having grew up out in the country shooting rifles that whole time, I couldn't hit a damn thing with a handgun. My firearms instructor in the academy set me straight with a 4" S&W model 686. Went from tied with worst of 68 people to a tie with the best before completion, so I was proud of that. Finally bought my own 686P but with the 6" barrel a year ago and it's my go to for a shoulder harness ltc. Amazing firearm.
@TheRobman139 Жыл бұрын
Police were never better armed than when they carried .357 wheel guns. Period.
@BuddWolf 2 жыл бұрын
I owned a 4” 581(a 686 in blue, with fixed sights) and shot it up against my friends Python. In the end, the only differences were,1/4” longer barrel and the cylinders rotate in different directions. Other than that,both revolvers performed magnificently. Thanks for👍🏼 sharing the video post and best of luck 🍀to you and your family 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻❤️🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
@dittman2564 4 ай бұрын
586 is the blued version
@tinman8518 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a 1981 Python and a S&W 686 from the 90's. As beautiful as my Python is, I'm personally more accurate with the 686. I love both.
@crunch9876 3 жыл бұрын
Does your 686 have a transfer bar? Or just a firing pin on the hammer?
@tinman8518 3 жыл бұрын
@@crunch9876 Mine is a S&W 686-3 with a 4" barrel. It has the firing pin on the hammer.
@crunch9876 3 жыл бұрын
@@tinman8518 ah ok mine also has a firing pin on hammer and I’m trying to find out what date it was made. I purchased it used
@keithhartman9946 3 жыл бұрын
Same barrel length?
@tinman8518 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithhartman9946 Actually my Python has a 6" barrel and my 686 has a 4" barrel.
@arthurdevain754 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Ruger "Security Six" in 1973 brand-new for $89.00. To open the cylinder you neither push a slide forward nor pull a button backward. You press a button into the frame. It werks fyne!
@jimbokyzar8170 3 жыл бұрын
I got a stainless security six 4 inch last yr in a trade. I like it and wonder how it compares to python and 686.
@arthurdevain754 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-hm7eh In 1874 you could by a brand-new Colt Single Action Army Revolver for a twenty-dollar gold piece. You still can, based on the daily spot price of gold.
@totizabayle377 3 жыл бұрын
That's a revolver that I really like outside of my Smiths. I prefer it to the GP100.
@dirtydan73 3 жыл бұрын
The issue with buttons is a lack of leverage. If it gets stuck, there’s nothing you can pry it against. Check out Kalashnikov Group’s ice test - prime example
@fredcgodwin7660 3 жыл бұрын
Jimbo Kyzar with Hogue grips on it, you have the superior revolver.
@hobbs3710 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more! Shot 300-500 rounds a month back in the 80's as a reserve police officer and range enthusiast. The 686 was the gold standard. Thanks to the muscle memory / experience I'm probably a wheel gun guy till the day I die! Thanks for all the fun and informative range videos! I agree the Python is the prettier gun but at the cost of a less than instinctive cylinder release latch.
@BryanSmythe 5 ай бұрын
I was firearms instructor OKC PD for 23 years and Jack Garret was range master from the mid 50 till his retirement. There was never a colt revolver that complited the 5 days of shooting the PPC requireing 500 rds a day with out having a malfunction of some sort which required repairs. Mod 15 Mod 10 Mod 65 Mod 66 were the most prevelant until we transistioned to semi autos.
@ricksvendsen5755 3 жыл бұрын
The 686 was my first duty weapon as a U.S. Probation Officer, before we transitioned to the Glock .40. I still have mine, and consider it a piece of art.
@willstarnes1246 3 жыл бұрын
Worst mistake I ever made was selling my 6" Smith 686
@dizzywow 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@wolfgangdavid8121 3 жыл бұрын
I did two sell my stainless six inch 686 in the nineties to a township fireman that kept bugging me MISTAKE but still have a model 19 six inch stainless
@beargunn7820 3 жыл бұрын
@Will Starnes Yep, I feel your pain, Will. I made that same mistake some years ago myself... still hurts. Just bought the 6" 2020 Python this week. It's gorgeous, but still miss the 686.
@brianharris4275 3 жыл бұрын
Me three!
@kbm-zw5jd 3 жыл бұрын
I sold a 4” 686 and I surely regret it, but the worst deal I ever made was trading a 686 no dash 2.5” even up for a 5906 that I wanted at the time. Gun even had Combat grips. I’d never carry it and it wasn’t much of a range gun but I should have insisted on cash on top of the gun.
@vphls 2 жыл бұрын
My first handgun purchase when I was in college came down to my budget. I preferred the beautifully smooth double action of the Python, but it was $400 in blue compared to the 686 in SST around $200. I always regretted that I didn't buy a Python when I had more money, but I still have that 686 for some 37 years and it has been a great and accurate gun that gave me the confidence to hit anything at which I aimed. Now looking at new Python and it's more affordable relative to my pay but still hard to justify at today's prices when there are so many great guns out there.
@josephpreston3550 Жыл бұрын
Neither one will get cheaper in our lifetimes. Hell, they may beat the S&P 500.
@enlilannunaki9064 Жыл бұрын
The Python in 4.25” barrel is just a mesmerizing work of art. ❤
@brianmorrissey3746 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love mine
@rickmogensen7706 3 жыл бұрын
I have a older 686 in 4 inch, love it more than all my other hand guns!
@trancus11 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 686 6” and it’s a tack driver. Especially with 38 specials. It’s like shooting a 22.
@reinoldwalser8501 3 жыл бұрын
I've had my S&W 5" Model 27 for 45 years and I still love it. It looks as good as the day I bought it, but I am more gentle with her these days shooting standard 38 special instead of hot 357 reloads like in the early years. In 1984 I got to shoot my uncle's 4" Python. It was a beautiful stainless steel version but I couldn't quite enjoy it as I did my gun. Like Hickok says, shoot what feels right for you. Thank you for the videos. I have passed on this channel on to my oldest son, my daughter-in-law, my grandson, and my granddaughter. They have learned a great deal from you and enjoy the wit.
@terminalreset18 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to opine that I feel that the original S&W 357 Magnum, which is the 27, is possibly the best handgun ever made. It's versatile, long-lasting, accurate, and affordable. If you can't solve your problem with 6 rounds of 158gr from a 5-6" barrel on one of these, you are in the deep stuff.
@39MercFlathead 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the 70s I had 6 1\2 in Model 27. Fantastic shooter. I've always wanted a 5 inch, but never found one.
@39MercFlathead 3 жыл бұрын
@@terminalreset18 I agree 100%. As a former OSS officer I knew who carried a Browning Hi Power behind German lines in WWII told me, if you can't solve the problem with the rounds you have, to hell with reloading. Close to knife range. You never run out our cold steel.
@cptsmkwgn 3 жыл бұрын
For my money (having learned DA on a Colt) I find the Colt latch more intuitive because it helps me "pull" the gun over to dump empties. I suspect the real difference is what one is more accustomed to
@nakotahunt1324 3 ай бұрын
Python is just so smooth. Pythons are special. They aren't made for just anybody to go buy. They are a functional collectors edition while the 686 is just a hand cannon. I have a 686 plus with 7inch barrel and I love it but the python is just a different feeling.
@s.d.9143 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 4" & a 6" python at the same time, because of how beautiful they are, but they did not stand up to factory 38+P or 357 magnum heavy usage. 7000+ rounds a year, is what I was shooting, (the ammo was free to me, if it was shoot at our departments range). Both Colt failed at 500-700 rounds, numerous time. The spring under the cylinder, holds a pin that holds the cylinder locked while firing. The coils would break. Colt always fixed them, and sent me spare springs. The excuse was, .... this is a range gun, meant to enjoy at the range with, 158 grain wadcutters, (.38 special). They where sold. My Smith & Wesson model 66, (not as strong as the 686), would go between 12-14,000 rounds before Smith & Wesson factory would rebuild them. I had two model 66 rebuilt twice ..... I do love the look of the Python, so I had gunsmith in the NorthWest build me a "Smolt", a s&w frame with a Colt 6" barrel. It worked great ! If you are wanting a combat revolver, buy the Smith & Wesson 686, 4", it is a heavy duty gun. You do your part, it will do it's job the first time.
@karlpryor6437 3 жыл бұрын
Similar experience with the 2 Pythons I owned. Both started having issues after 500-600 rounds. 125 gr SJHP primarily with some standard velocity 158 gr .38 Special thrown in. None of my other revolvers, S&W, Ruger, Taurus, or even a Colt Trooper suffered such issues with the same/similar loads.
@jamesharber7820 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Davis Yours was certainly one of the very best and through comments covering these two brands. Thanks!
@Slapgaat 3 жыл бұрын
2020 Python or the earlier model?
@whomagoose6897 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like my S&W-586 will last a lifetime. Mostly used for IDPA competitions.
@Mortismors 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted a new Python but all the problems is making me glad I picked up the Taurus first 24 kit with the 357 magnum with AimPro's custom work. Sad to say I'd take my Taurus over a Colt.
@1970HondaCL100 3 жыл бұрын
Hickok: likes the Python but bought the 686; and that’s all you need to know about that.
@dustinrowe5226 3 жыл бұрын
Just can't beat a smith and wesson
@miwokguy34 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustinrowe5226 Unless it has a lock built in
@bnighter 3 жыл бұрын
the hillary hole
@jzi4 3 жыл бұрын
@@miwokguy34 Does the lock effect the way the gun shoots or something?
@davejones67 3 жыл бұрын
jzi4 no it’s just cause
@oscarsmith1741 3 жыл бұрын
The first gun, pistol or long gun, I ever purchased, way back in 1982, was a 4" Smith & Wesson Model 686. I have 35+ pistols and revolvers in my gun safe today, but the one I love the most is that 686. I don't shoot it as much as I used to. I spend more time these days with my EDC pistol (Glock 48X) and full size home defense pistol (Beretta 92FS w/G mod) but my beautiful 686 has the prime spot in my little arsenal.
@dapawaz8310 4 ай бұрын
I have a 4" 586 I bought in the mid 80s I feel the same way about. It's the last firearm I'd ever part with.
@foolishtook2727 4 ай бұрын
I've had more people come and inquire about buying my 686 than any other guns I own. It has been my first gun and I do not ever plan on selling it. It's a beautiful and reliable revolver.
@3ducs 3 жыл бұрын
Bought two revolvers today. A S&W 29-2, 6", nickel plated, in the presentation box. And then picked up a Colt Detective Special and couldn't put it down, got that too since the 4473 was already approved. There was a very nice Python there but at $3,000 I passed. Ammo is short, there is a 24 hour wait on getting state background checks done, things are getting interesting, and not in a good way.
@QuietMikeW 3 жыл бұрын
You got 2 guns in one day and took them home?! That sounds so crazy and free, here in CA it takes about a month and 3 trips to the gun store +huge markups to get one gun...back when you could, everything is gone now.
@3ducs 3 жыл бұрын
@@QuietMikeW I bought the Smith yesterday, state background checks used to take around a half hour, now more like 24 hours. But I could've taken four guns home today, they would've just been added to the 4473. New Hampshire is a free state, a Constitutional carry state, any lawful citizen may carry a concealed firearm without the need for a permit. Throw in no sales or income tax for good measure. Does that make you feel better? On the other hand winters are cold and long.
@John-hw3ds 3 жыл бұрын
Mike I live in Florida and if made it in and out in 20 minutes when I bought my 5.56, but that was last year.
@stealthman6617 3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess... Greentop?
@scooterbob4432 3 жыл бұрын
I always wanted the older classic Colt Detective Special but ended up with a pinned barrel S & W Model 60.
@timothydaymude5341 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching you Hickok 45,and I will be looking for your new videos.
@tjjohnson1272 3 жыл бұрын
I got my first Python in 1974. $279. My Momma had to sign for it as I was only 20 years old. I shot it in competition throughout the 70s and 80s. After 10K rds I had to send it back to factory for re tuning. Since, I’ve shot another 5K or so rds. Needless to say I’m a colt guy. Yes, I confess, I also own a S&W 686.
@sensatec13 3 жыл бұрын
By “re-tuning” do you mean that the cylinder went out of timing?
@dougdownunder5622 2 ай бұрын
Wow
@EvilE22 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing of real value to add other than I love your videos Mr. Hickok45! 🥳
@bobbycraigue725 3 жыл бұрын
Delightful man cave evening watching Hickok 45 on KZfaq, comparing a Colt Python vs S&W 686!
@laughslapproductions4690 3 жыл бұрын
*Damn this guy’s a good shot*
@cliffhotchkiss2680 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah think....
@Ironhide1283 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoyable videos honestly could watch the shooting and gun talk all day.
@nathany8065 3 жыл бұрын
If cost was not an issue, I would have gone with a nickel plated Python back in the 80's. However, cost was a big issue back then for me and I went with a 6" 686 with Pachmyr combat style grips. Best wheel gun I've ever owned. Thanks for the video. Nice to see that after all these years, the 686 is still a quality gun.
@kmech3rd 3 жыл бұрын
"Fusion" round. Not gonna lie, I was half expecting a tiny mushroom cloud when that monstrous bastard hit. It's like an Atomic Annie you can hand hold.
@MikeJw-je4xk 3 жыл бұрын
"while i'm thinking of other lies to tell you" lol, watching hickok45 videos are always Fun!
@waynedavis7245 2 жыл бұрын
Two fantastic hand guns . You couldn't go wrong with either. I liked the trigger on my colt a little better, than the 686 . But that's just my opinion. But loved both guns .
@tobparker 3 жыл бұрын
Hicock is looking svelt these days. I hope you’re healthy and well. I have enjoyed your content for years, and this is another great example. The 686 is on the wish list for me.
@bobalouie2413 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Love the look of that Python rib, but that cylinder release always put me off. (I'll even take a Ruger Security Six cylinder release over the Colt's). So I'd get an action job on my 686 and found that the full length underlug kept me pretty happy, especially if you get a 686 with an unfluted cylinder like they made in 1986.
@russelllmetcalf Жыл бұрын
Reeves Jungkind was my firearms instructor in Texas Highway patrol school. He was a Colt master pistol smith. He did a trigger job on a python for a friend of mine. There was no comparison. Outstanding. We had a few guys lucky enough to carry a K frame Smith for a short amount of time when we still carried wheel guns. Most of us had model 28’s smiths and they were fine, but Reeves was much like you and could make any pistol outstanding.
@blackbaxter1 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I stumbled across this channel. This guy is cool. Great info too.
@wldtrky38 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 686 a cpl years ago. No regrets.... I would like to have a Python, just because it's a Python, but it's twice the price. Beautiful pistol, but I doubt I'll ever spring for it.
@wldtrky38 3 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Babica 😉👍 I've always loved S&W.
@wldtrky38 3 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Babica They are sure beautiful pistols !! I've owned a few Colts thru the years 1911s and New Frontier .22s, all were A+, First Class weapons ! Enjoy your new Python 👍👍
@DanielFrankHoffman 3 жыл бұрын
I just love your revolver videos, so much better than the automatics!
@silvercobra3373 Жыл бұрын
I bought the GP100 7 Shot 357/38 and like it a lot. I have also purchased the S&W 686 6 shot 387/38 and waiting on the 10-day waiting period before I can pick it up. Both with the 4-inch barrel.
@robd.4768 Жыл бұрын
Another very happy GP 100 owner here. 6 shot, 4” barrel, stainless.
@terryrutherford2114 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Python too but can't justify the price. I have two 686 magnum + (7 shot) one 6 inch and one 2.5 inch barrels. Had the 6 inch for over 25 years, got the short barrel 2 years ago. Love them both. Thanks for the video.
@Captain_Crayzay 3 жыл бұрын
I basically had a 686 fall in my lap 12 yrs ago. I had no idea back then what a sweet gun it is.. What a blessing!
@al01100 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the smiths as well. Not sure how many rounds have gone through my first 686 but, it's been many thousands downrange and it's never given me any trouble
@moosa9850 3 жыл бұрын
@@Krobear ppl always telling me revolves are useless, better to get a pistol, I think pistols are more reliable imo. Was in two minds.
@shanejones578 2 жыл бұрын
@@moosa9850 pistols can’t shine revolvers shoes in reliability.
@DKWalser 3 жыл бұрын
W/R/T the cylinder release, I think a lot depends on what you started shooting with. I've always found the S&W release to work backwards. But then, I learned to shoot on a Colt.
@FSCAlexander 11 ай бұрын
Who needs audio balancing when you've got hickok45... an official youtube hero.
@dobermanpac1064 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a home boy from W Hartford Ct home of Colt. A long time ago Colts and their employees experienced a lengthy strike and my family started buying S&W’s. We still do. Nuff said. BTW we left W Htfd decades ago for the Piedmont of N C. We too shoot in the back yard 🤠
@bglk2310 3 жыл бұрын
I'm stuck in New Britain for a few more years then moving to a gun friendly state myself. Glad you and your family made it out. Things only getting worse here in Ct.
@davejones67 3 жыл бұрын
bglk2310 try living in Canada!
@robertphifer7955 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings to fellow Tarheel!
@soccergolfball1269 3 жыл бұрын
Next do
@larrytischler570 3 жыл бұрын
Why should Americans follow the socialist unions into oblivion? I'm no fan of Colt but the unions tell us to vote against our right to keep and bear arms. Get a life.
@larrymcclure3842 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the 686. I have never fired the Colt. Before she passed away my wife claimed the 686 was her gun. She loved it, but she never shot it with any thing but 38's. I used to tease her and tell her I was going to sneak a 357 in the gun when she was not looking, but I never did it.
@jeffalcorn5571 3 жыл бұрын
Your wife had great taste.
@larrymcclure3842 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffalcorn5571 Yes, in spite of her choice in a husband. Even though she has been gone for 8 years now I still miss her very much.
@jeffalcorn5571 3 жыл бұрын
@@larrymcclure3842 So sorry for your loss. Sir if I were you I'd get that 686 out and run a bunch of .38 in it to honor her.
@wldtrky38 3 жыл бұрын
@@larrymcclure3842 Very sorry for your loss. Your Lady had great taste in a handgun. My 1st wife passed 20 years ago, she was never much for pistols but was a great shot with her Model 94.
@jetdriver1jetdriver194 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffalcorn5571 I Second that!
@rays3812 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how good his aim is. I can barely hit a target at 20 feet!
@peterw3544 Жыл бұрын
This. I bought both Python and Anaconda but I’m absolutely horrid at shooting them. Semiautomatics are so much easier to shoot. With revolvers I’m bad single and double action.
@nchcroy3877 Жыл бұрын
This gentleman could hit a postage stamp at 1000m blindfolded... he is absolutely incredible. Love his work.
@pchmm Жыл бұрын
@@peterw3544 Could have something to do with the grips. Have you tried other grips than the stock? Also, have you sighted them in properly from a bench rest? Both the new Python and Anaconda are known to have poor rear sights which wobble around and don't keep a zero well. Finally, are you shooting 357 mag only or have you tried some lighter loads ie 38 special to mitigate recoil?
@peterw3544 Жыл бұрын
@@pchmm it’s more me problem than revolver. I just don’t know how to shoot them.
@rays3812 11 ай бұрын
@grizz2532 He's so lucky then. Ammo is too expensive, I can't afford to practice 😭
@williamgburnett 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review and comparison! Smith and Wesson also make over revolvers in this caliber that cost as much as the Python, though they are generally larger and heavier options.
@RomanianAlphaDaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Love these new Colts so much. My new Cobra is the perfect carry revolver. I got it and a RAMI BD the same day. Then I got a Kahr T9 Elite yesterday...a couple of months later. All amazing carry guns and amazing shooters. That Cobra just stands out though.
@TomFox1 3 жыл бұрын
“u don’t pay attention to what I say” 😂😂😂😂 hickok45
@vannmann9597 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your video's. They are very informative and accurate. I have been contimplating the same decision between these two guns for about 4 months now. I made the decision today, as I purchased the S&W in 6". I got a great deal on a slightly used 686-6 Plus Deluxe (saved me $150 over new). The cost difference (NEW) between the Colt & S&W in 6" is $1450 vs. $925 respectively. I went with the Plus Deluxe (7-shot) which would run about $50 more. By the way, another difference between the two is that the Colt chambers clock-wise, and the S&W chambers counter-clockwise. If you don't load a full chamber, keep that in mind.
@joelspringman523 Жыл бұрын
They're both fantastic, so, as much as I enjoy and appreciate Hickok 45's videos, I don't need to watch this. My .357 Magnum revolver is a stainless steel Colt King Cobra with a 4" barrel. I'm very happy with it.
@lukeg2230 3 жыл бұрын
"Dont bother me; I'm busy." I love this giant.
@gradybrowning3976 3 жыл бұрын
The Python is a thing of beauty, and quality.
@Man-vs-Metal 4 ай бұрын
It was. Now they make them with a QR code on the frame.
@Man-vs-Metal 4 ай бұрын
It was. Now they make them with a QR code on the frame.
@cliftonwhittaker260 Жыл бұрын
My favorite revolver right now is the S&W 646 4" with the S&W rubber boot grip. I've never had another revolver that had such a natural point of aim. Right on the target. And sweet to shoot.
@tomassoyweyvon4902 11 ай бұрын
Great Choice
@leroymorris6036 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your videos guys!
@sealsniper4206 3 жыл бұрын
Love these video’s keep em up
@patrickmessinger9476 3 жыл бұрын
I have been blessed to own 3 S&W 686 in my life, and ever single one of them was an excellent firearm.
@johncarmichael4698 Жыл бұрын
How do I relax . I watch you shoot. Good memories of my younger years. Family ❤ appreciated
@funkfarmer7125 Жыл бұрын
My 4" 686 plus is still one of my top 3 favorite pistols in the collection for so many reasons. I just love the gun.
@davidholcomb70 4 ай бұрын
I have the same gun. It is an excellent gun.
@richardshippful 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite firearm is my 4" 686+. Love the balance, trigger, and looks.
@CDinNC 3 жыл бұрын
I have been told that the Colt action had a slower trigger return. Supposedly that is why the Smith & Wesson was preferred for the rapid fire competitions. Carried a lot of Smith & Wesson’s during my LEO career.
@rascal44512 3 жыл бұрын
Love your spots: Own a 62’ -- New 6” Blue Python- 6000.00 Colt. Detective -- very nice -- Smith model 59. New. Never fired Love owning them all!!!!! Python is the Baby!!!!!!
@jamesjanssen8252 Жыл бұрын
Colt has a slower return. Problem if you ride the trigger.
@Heywoodthepeckerwood Жыл бұрын
Yes. Colt is a lot slower.
@user-nf4me8ql8b 5 ай бұрын
I carried a S&W 586 4” when I was an LEO. I own a Python. Personally, I prefer the Python because of its smooth action, trigger pull and its appearance. Good video on the comparison!👍
@implayingsomebass4753 3 жыл бұрын
I love Pythons, hands down my favorite revolver of all time. Never shot the 686 and was unaware of the cylinder release on them, makes way more sense to push forward than pull back. Might have to try one out!
@howardjohnson6584 2 жыл бұрын
The S&W S/A trigger is the best there is.
@markorkarenhanes1354 2 жыл бұрын
@@howardjohnson6584 I concur.
@kingoftampa 2 жыл бұрын
@@howardjohnson6584 while i agree that the 686 is probably better than the python, i personally think my colt has a nicer trigger than my smith, but who knows being all hand built the trigger may very from gun to gun and my python may just have a really nice trigger. 686 is undoubtedly a beefier more durable wheel gun though.
@gregrussell6349 2 жыл бұрын
Although I don`t care for the cylinder release on the Colt Python, I`ll take that EVERY DAY over any other revolver, including and especially a s&w. I JUST got my brand new Colt Python 4.25", and I`m going to shoot the crap out of it and hand it down to my son.
@howardjohnson6584 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregrussell6349 You can do that with a smith and still have money left over to buy ammo.
@juarezpaim8818 3 жыл бұрын
Parabéns pelos excelentes vídeos jovem Sniper Sua pontaria e primorosa e eficaz Revólveres são clássicos e nunca falham DEUS abençoe a sua família
@Wild_Bill57 3 жыл бұрын
I’d have to say, 686 old school attracts me the most, don’t like the key or the rib venting ( belongs on a shotgun in my book) and I like the 4+”” barrel, but I’d take either one for Christmas.
@brandistone5132 3 жыл бұрын
Wild Bill57 lol
@Tyler-xr5po 3 жыл бұрын
Well we found the one person in the world who doesn't like the rib.
@1971irvin 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, I don't like the rib venting either... 😷👍
@kbm-zw5jd 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t like the rib either. The Python never impressed me. If I was given one I’d sell it immediately and buy a Smith and pocket the difference.
@af7119 3 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Babica only kids and facebook grandmas type in all caps. which one are you?
@308blr2 Жыл бұрын
Years ago two at our club competed with Pythons. Most shooters purchased used S&Ws because they were available, affordable and easy to service. Pythons seldom appeared on the used market and new ones cost triple compared to a used Smith. The Python was smooth and accurate. Everyone admired the Pythons; and S&W shooters often said they just didn’t want to compete with anything so beautiful.
@michaellinner7772 2 жыл бұрын
The handgun that I like the most and shoot the most accurately is the Smith and Wesson model 586 in. 44 magnum. The heavy lug of metal that runs under the barrel really offsets the recoil and keeps the muzzle down.
@davidmayo4120 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 6" stainless steel 686-6. I love it, nice smooth trigger.
@ermannov.7654 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, casually I'm awake (in Italy it's 2:40 a.m.) and now I'm watching a new Hick's video!... 😉👍💤💥
@wrestlingpurist9784 3 жыл бұрын
Non mi aspettavo di trovare un altro italiano a guardare il vecchio Hickock45 all'opera.
@lucamengardo6942 3 жыл бұрын
Siamo in tre
@Andy-cd1dy 3 жыл бұрын
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@darioalbertini88 3 жыл бұрын
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@henrytaylor6921 3 жыл бұрын
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@brianmacdonald3292 Жыл бұрын
John! Lol! I'm so glad I stayed to the end to see a great gun fordefence! That was great! 😁👍
@2002jaiden 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 686-3 last Friday!! Beautiful gun!
@briananderson8733 3 жыл бұрын
I found that I liked the 686 over the python. Most of the time I have looked for the two guns the 686 is MUCH less expensive. The Python runs around 2k. As a retired gunsmith the python is harder to tune than the 686. At least to me.
@cleonmain1291 3 жыл бұрын
I collect S&W's, pre lock guns only. The price continues to climb because many agree the post lock guns aren't quite the same. I would like a Python but I can't justify the much higher price. Not sure about the durability either. Thanks for the video.
@cleonmain1291 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulvogt9308 While I like some of the newer S&W designs I don't like having a external lock and I prefer not to have MIM parts in a gun if possible. So I shop for older pre lock guns. It's a personal preference, and I enjoy shopping online for firearms of many types. It's a interesting pastime. You can get a much better technical breakdown from a good S&W Book.
@ezrabrooks12 3 жыл бұрын
Cleon//// From the Reviews Iv,e been reading,The Old Pythons Weren't very RELIABLE EITHER.The say they couldn't hold up under constant 357/38+P being fired thru them.
@georgeheidkesr1759 3 жыл бұрын
Waaaaaay back in the day, I was choosing between a Model 29 & a Python.........I liked the python's looks better, but at that time they had " timing issues" with the gun .......so I bought a 29, 4 inch in nickel ..........drove the gun to S&W HDQ in New England & had them install an 8in barrel. I'd buy a new one if I wanted one.
@walden6272 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are weird. I think the lock is awesome feature. I can lock it anytime anywhere, esp around kids. I love having that extra security. That is why I chose a Smith over a Ruger because it has a lock.
@walden6272 3 жыл бұрын
@Pub Thumpin It's just more convenient. When I refer to kids I wasn't referring to my own kids. Sometimes I go over to neighbors house for dinner and they have kids so it's easier for me to lock my gun and hang it with my coat. Not a fan of removing the bullets then putting them back in again. Easier to just lock and unlock; it's very subtle so it won't alarm anyone and I can do it within my coat. Also my pant pockets tend to have holes, and bullets can drop out. That's why I don't care extra bullets. The ones in the gun is all I need.
@markyoung2981 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation thank you for your time posting this information.
@danielread1942 6 ай бұрын
I also have both and love them. Your views and thoughts are just how I feel as well. Life is good.
@kylewood8327 3 жыл бұрын
S&W 686 all the way for me! My first two guns (back in the early 80’s) were a model 19 and 686. For some reason I sold them. Forward to 2020 I found a 686, 7 shot PLUS, just an awesome gun! This one is not going anywhere.
@zackzander425 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 686 7-shot plus too. I can’t miss with it. Would never part with it.
@shanejones578 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 63 nickel m19, however my python even as a 2020 is my favorite.
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