Awesome!

SD did a very nice job on it. It's a winner.

How do you like it?

@@stopxthisxfall damn just now saw this... i freaking love it, it been a year now that i’ve had it

@@noahjohnson999 been a good unit so far for you???

@@pajamatime5750 absolutely! i am more than happy with it!!

HEY HEY! Thanks Sean!

LOL! Jeez, man. We guess Kevin's got a New Year's resolution...

Tyler Lester at the end of the review he said he was cutting donuts. Give the man a break creeper.

Your dealer is trying to sell you on a pricier unit. The GTI SE 170 is demonstrably superior (albeit slightly smaller) than the GTX. The hull tracks straighter in rough water, the Ergolock seats are near identical in their brilliant design (we love it), and both share the LinQ system. No, the main difference is hull design and the GTI hull is so, so much better. There's too much to list in the comments, you'll need to read the full length articles on each skis on www.watercraftjournal.com.

Did our video help you make your decision?

Understand that the entire VX lineup shares the same hull sculpt as the GP units, so it's definitely sporty. The new GTI hull is a little "looser" meaning you can whip the tail loose when properly motivated. The 1630 ACE 170 doesn't come "on" as hard as the High Output, so that makes for towing a little more progressive (your kids will appreciate it). Frankly, it's hard to argue with Sea-Doo's Ergolock seating and BRP premium sound system - but the 2021 Yamaha VX series now has a comparable sound system offering, so it's a bit of a wash!

Totally pull the trigger. We put another 5 hours on ours yesterday. You won't regret it. This little guy is our strongest contender for The Watercraft Journal's "Watercraft of The Year" for 2020.

We don't. They're not intended to compete whatsoever. The GTI is meant to be a fun, playful yet stable platform for families. The VXR/GP HP is designed for aggressive handling/racing. Hull shape/material, weight, etc. are huge distinguishers.

The GTI is DEMONSTRABLY a superior hull design. The GTX rides on the ST3 hull, which is unpredictable at best, that is, without a lot of aftermarket support in the way of RIVA Pro-Series Sponsons and their Stage 1 intake grate.

The video doesn't show everything. And NO, you're gonna need a LOT more to get to 60 with this hull.

First, you're conflating two different models. The base GTI (white and turquoise) is with the ACE 900 (90HP) engine. When you step up to the SE, you're paying for either the 130 or 170 from the larger ACE 1630 engine, added dash functions, as well as a folding swim step, a USB port, and BRP Premium Audio.

We didn't have instrumentation to properly register that.

EVERYTHING is different but the powertrain.

The Watercraft Journal can you elaborate please is a 3K price difference worth it ?

You mean, from the Fish Pro? No. Totally different model.

That's not normal. Take it to your dealer.

The Yamaha VX HO was our selection for Watercraft of The Year last year for good reasons. Sea-Doos are reliable only as so far as you keep it properly maintained and don't operate it irresponsibly.

I went with the Yamaha VX HO,,,,It had more of what was important to me and the family. First it's a Yamaha, I've owned many Yamaha products ATV"s and dirt bikes mostly. I can't say I had any problems with any of them at all. I liked the looks better and it has more power they say. It's hard to tell for sure but the top end is quite a bit higher. Five to Seven miles an hour is a lot on the water. I will say the Sea Doo is Cool from a feature perspective but for me it wasn't enough to steer me away from what Is said to be a more reliable machine.

HardwoodHitman I love SD look and features. And closed loop cooling system on top of it...

@@hardwoodhitman5131 are you still enjoying the VX HO? Thinking bout getting one this year

if you're looking for reliability and easier maintenance Yamaha hands down. I've owned both and would never go back to Sea-Doo.

App Store the new GTI really looks like a solid contender with a lot of great features and versatility; it really depends on what attributes you value most.

I'd go for the cruiser high output. 1.8l faster ski than seadoo too

App Store yamaha has a great machine but I would go with the sea doo strictly for the attachment system. It's a game changer

Huh? Um, COMPLETELY NOT THE SAME SKI WHATSOEVER.

Kevin already explained it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idifrKyLvM-WiIk.html

Yikes! There's a lot of questions to answer there. First, you need to decide what skill level you're at (and be honest!). Next, decide what features are more important to you. Then consider the type of riding you'll most often be doing. That'll help your decision-making process.

@The Watercraft Journal thank you for your reply, appreciate it. I am a rookie as I never owned a PWC before (just rented a few times). Most often I will be cruising to be honest.

Then THIS machine would be an ideal "entry" machine. Very comfortable, great storage, responsive, and just plain fun to ride. Plus, it's light and gets good mileage. If after a while you want more power, the GTR 230 will be waiting.

mate. get the gtr 230. its so much better, the gti is way tooooo sloooow. you will regret it.

2019 gtr 230 is faster than The 2020 fyi

We've done LOTS of reviews. Check 'em out and make your own decision!

That's innteresting, because our test unit that we have RIGHT NOW tops off at 56mph. Are you using a GPS?

I don’t know, I was just using what the speedometer said stock from the factory, I didn’t mess with any settings or anything.

55 to 56 mph top speed

We estimate 5.6mpg. Official results are unavailable.

It's all in the tune, obviously. Far better acceleration over last year but similar top speed (these were pre-production units of course, and were told we'd pick up 2-3mph and 300rpm).

@@watercraftjournal The tune? but its a different motor completely.

Yes. And it has an ECU tune, John. Sea-Doo tuned the new engine to perform similar to the outgoing 1503 Rotax. Acceleration is the outlier here, not top speed - because people who buy these aren't hot rodders.

We like it!

It's quickly becoming one of our favorites.

A naturally aspirated RXP-X? Interesting idea. Not sure it really has a place in the market, seeing as it's meant to be a high-performance race ski and 170 hp doesn't really fit that, but I'd be curious to see how it handles as well.

SeaDoo still offers a GTX 130 Pro…that gives you that hull on the cheap with some upgrades to toughen it as it’s the rental version and a tune will get you to 170

Sadly that was phased out a couple of years ago.

On a Wake 170? There's really nothing you can do without sacrificing reliability. Leave it alone and save up for a supercharged unit.

@@watercraftjournal thank you for your reply. Funny I was actually thinking about trading it in for a wake pro 230 but am worried about the reliability of a supercharged unit.

Again, like we said in the video this was a pre-production unit and is expected to see a top speed of 56-57mph at 8,000rpm.

60-65 would have been the magic number for me. Being that the 130 hits 50+. My guess with a tune it will get to 60-65 but they don’t want to cannibalize their super charge units.

Those are supercharged numbers for sure. You're not going to see 60 out of a N/A Sea-Doo.

The Watercraft Journal I get 59 out of my 2004 4tec 155. And no that’s not from the Sea-Doo Dreamometer. That’s on a police radar

@@watercraftjournal why would the new GTI not see 60 MPH? The old Kawasaki STF-15F which is both heavier and less powerful (160 HP) can do 58 - 60 MPH on GPS.

Something's wrong because we still have ours (for longterm testing) and we can walk around this ski with zero issue.

@@watercraftjournal ...any suggestions on what it could be

The GTI SE 170 is a superior ski to the GTX 170 in nearly every single facet.

If you watched this video you would know our answer.

@@watercraftjournal just confirming: you do understand that I’m talking about the GTX 300 Limited for the same price as the GTI 170, right? 😱 Is the GTI that good to be better than the Limited 300? I know it’s an used 2020, but still. I’ll take you word on it, as I think you are the best PWC reviewer out there 👏🏻

Yes, yes and yes.

Just the tune. That’s it.

@@watercraftjournal thanks

@@watercraftjournal so if i have owned gti 130 and need to tune it 170, do have an idea about that tuning cost ?

Rumors? No, but there's been a few who've tried painting the hulls to give it a smooth surface. The problem is that Polytec flexes A LOT so most paint cracks and spiderwebs over time.

@@watercraftjournal pwcmucle made a mention in a video about polytech that a rumor believed to be from and engineer at seadoo claimed bumper filler works to smooth out the hull. I can't find any more back up information that supports this. I have reached out to them and in the mean time thought I would check with you if you heard anything similar.

I'm betting Joe was talking about HOW TO REPAIR Polytec, not smooth the surface.

Thankfully, BRP has created an infrastructure to quickly and cheaply repair and/or replace them for 2020. And - believe it or not - the final repair result is better than CM-Tech.

No lo se. Mejor bescarlo a Google.

Easy: hull design and surface drag.

On the speedo or GPS? The factory speed is WAAAY off.

@@watercraftjournal this is on factory indicator...I'm not sure how good GPS speed apps are on a phone but could try that too

Your phone is demonstrably better. A dedicated GPS (Vbox or Garmin) is ideal.

Choppy ocean or lake/river?

Why would they need to change the battery?

If they left the speakers on might kill the battery

No, no. Not at all! The ECU tracks the battery life while accessories like the speakers are running. It will automatically deactivate the speakers when it sees that battery life is running low (but not too low to start the Sea-Doo).

55mph @7700; this was a pre-production unit and the engineers did say that the showroom versions will pick up 300rpm and 2-3mph.

@@watercraftjournal totally assuming here but i bet the aftermarket will have a tune and or impeller swap to easily get this to or above 60 mph by next summer.

It has the be the hull design that slows that ski down. It should be over 60 with the HP especially since it’s in the lower 700 lbs. Using the Kawi STX15F as a reference, at 160hp and weighs over 800lbs, it will do 60-61 all day long. The hull shape has to be killing its top speed. I mean even if the production model if it tops at 57-58 is not off by much compared to others and most can’t tell the difference between 1 and 2 mph. The loss in top end is probably the trade off to better handling characteristics and stability compared to the Kawi 🤷🏻‍♂️. The Kawi does handle pretty good though 😂...

Certainly! But most folks who buy this machine aren't looking for top speed numbers. Why drop all that coin and void the warranty when you could go with the supercharged GTR 230?

The Watercraft Journal -yeah I totally agree. I was just surprised there is not a little more top end in that package especially with the engine upgrade versus last years model

FYI it's "jet skis" when talking about non-Kawasaki watercraft. "JetSki" is a trademarked name; "jet ski" is a common genericization.

How so? Have you ridden one?

Not the brand new one but I used to like sinkdont till I got a brand new one a couple years ago and it had problems from the beginning with Lil things so it left for a yamaha plus sinkdont customer service is horrible these days they aren't like they used to be I guess got too big for themself.