From my understanding from engineers who have done research on this, much of the shifting feel and sound has to be more rhythmic when combined with internal combustion cars. There are certain CVTs that create this discordant sound with the engine because of the constant rubber banding that subconsciously creates anxiety or driver fatigue and unpleasantness.

@@savagegeese That's interesting but this does not exist on my two recent cars (both Toyota Hybrids with e-CVT) and it has never bothered me and it doesn't seem to bother Toyota either. Especially since they only recently added it (one extra gear, the first one ) on the new Hybrid system ( 2.0 Corolla engine)

I need to feel the shift becasue in my case i want to feel, hear, and see that everything is in working order, it's a big reason i don't like EV'S, you don't know what the hell's going on and i don't trust these computer systems, becasue I've been in plenty of modern cars where I've checked on basic functions and the computer is way off. I drive drive a 96 accord and i know exactly what a working part should sound like, and sounds that ring alarm bells that something may be wrong. I know exactly when it's supposed to shift, I know exactly what the engine should sound like in first gear, i hear exactly when the fuel pump is in working order, i can see exactly how much oil i have you get the drill. That's one reason i hate CVT's and t most modern cars, you put too much trust into unproven systems especially in luxury cars and I've seen enough cases where that bites people in the rear when their engine blows because the retards removed the dipstick in place of a computer or when companies are replacing surefire ways to check that you car is in working order for flawed computer systems that could screw you if your not as car keen as the minority of the population. So in the case of "feeling the shift" it's not something we complain just to complain about it (at least me), i have my reasons, i want to feel that the car is in working order, especially not with a product that has a shotty track record like a CVT and most modern car features and gimmicks

@@YouWillNeverKnow But if your first car ever was a Prius you wouldn't even know the need of shifting :)

@@savagegeese Also the fatigue and unpleasantness would only be reoccurring if you step on the gas on a cvt / or e-CVT. That's what creates the groaning noise. More common on a 1.8 Hybrid engine like the Prius but not so pertruding if you drive a Hybrid v6 Lexus with a CVT

Well said.

This is poetic

Disposable cars are synonymous with boring, which has been Toyota's most constant criticism.

You nailed it Mark

@@MRTOWELRACK except Toyotas are not disposable. 😀

Affordable cars? Toyota have the highest prices when you shop around. With the CVT issues the Corolla has been recalled for, I'm not even sure the price is worth it any longer.

@@palebeachbum Agreed. The hatch has been out for just over a year and already it has been recalled atleast twice from what I remember. That's the reason I didn't buy the toyota hatch right as it came out cause they were using an all new engine and transmission and I didn't feel like being the guinea pig. Plus with that price I would most likely buy the hyundai elantra or the new kia forte, you can get the top trim of those for the mid or base trim of a corolla.

Get one. From a hatchback owner. Get one. They are excellent little cars.

@@CanielDonrad The manual hatch would be a fine choice.

@@palebeachbum get the manual transmission

True.

"I carry a corolla in the back of my Ram as a back up. With a Ram you always need a backup." -- (1) I doubt you have ever driven a RAM, let alone owned one. (2) I doubt you have ever driven anything outside of a video game.

@@mountainhobo LOL. I was being sarcastic about my truck. 2014 Ram Ecodiesel, 4x4, crew cab, 5'7" box with Hankook AT2 tires. I'm on my fourth recall hence my commentary on carrying a reliable backup car in the bed. It wouldn't fit anyway but makes for a funny albeit bit of an inside joke. The latest problem???? EGR coolers. Thanks eco-nuts. I've also drove 60,000 lb dump trucks a few times and worked for a feed mill in Wisconsin for three months (summer job) driving a 36,000 lb truck picking up and delivery feed stock at farms. It was called a shovel truck. Why? Because I often had to shovel the corn, soybeans, oats, barley, or wheat into the attached elevator. There are times I wish I'd stayed on the farm ...

"2014 Ram Ecodiesel" -- You bought the first year Italian small diesel?

@@mountainhobo Worse. I bought it used so I can't complain about being an early adopter. Anyway, it's a nice powerful engine and I personally haven't had any problems. However, 4 recalls in ... 2 for non-engine, one for Eco-complaints, and now the EGR.

Mark F I agree for the most part but wait until you sit in a new Camry it’s insane ow nice the interior is like I can’t imagine what the Avalon’s feels and looks like

27k is affordable? ok

Alex Duey you should check out the new Supra! Yes the interior is basically BMW but it’s really nice and many people who owned the car really liked it

james Gand no they start under $20k

It may look simplistic but it has all the computer based extras needed. The good thing is that Corollas hold up very well.

I just want loads of buttons again so I can memorise the layout.

I don't mind the screen but like he said i hate seeing this tablet in the middle ive owned 3 explorers i was going to get an ST and just because of the stuck on tablet im looking at other options.

Why do I need a fucking tablet in the first place? Give me a slot to click my phone into and have an aftermarket adapter set to physically connect any phone I like. 0 connecrivity issues, costs bugger nothing, reliable as the plastic used will ever be.

Isn’t it safer? We are all going to look at the screen regardless of the law, so it may as well be nearer to the drivers line of sight.

I couldn't agree more. It looks hideous.

Most kids can't afford even this though, they are driving stuff that is almost a decade old or more

i know "kids", who cant even afford a driving licence. its around 2000€ btw. my first car was a 12 year old run down piece of shit polo, it cost me 800€ wich is less than my licence was.

OK boomer. They still can't afford these cars. Student loans and housing costs are insane.

Kids dont buy this cuz they buy unreliable crap cuz it looks good

They did in New Zealand. We had the domestic ae82 fxgt, Japanese imports of those and the ae9x series, and the ae101 and ae111. They all looked great and were fast for the time, in many cases still faster than the new corollas. Oh, and loads of ae85/86s.

You're on to something here 👍

Hey! I was born and raised in Crystal Lake too! My first job in the car industry was at Anderson BMW/VW/Mazda as a service porter in 2003-2005. Great years for those brands!

Yeah when I realized Geese is right in my area I'm like wooooahh, I've lived here my whole life so i know all around. It'd be cool if there was ever a meetup.

Cars And Zombies Ditto! Not that I'm a Toyota mechanic but I can tell that it's put together well and I love manual option.

They use port injection plus direct right? Do they have timing chains?

@@NeoHCgbz thank you sir👍

Thanks

it can do it for 20 years or more.

Buy a Ford Model T then!

I hope you meant that as an insult. Because it is.

My 2003 Accord does the same for way less.

Yet he trashed the 2020 VW Passat for being the exact same thing, but the VW had a better infotainment system.

The new Toyota Fielder looks like a Lexus. It has shifted from a work/company car, to a family car now! :D

@@kendelion The new generation is a big upgrade especially the AWD Hybrid I hope Toyota ships some over to us.

@@rightlanehog3151 doubt they will, SUV is the goldmine there, and work vehicles are mostly Trucks or Vans :(

@@kendelion They ship the Corolla hatch, Prius and many sedans from Japan which are too small to be practical for many large North Americans so I can still hope ;)

We won't be getting economy wagons anymore. I'll use VW as an example because I have inside knowledge. The manufacturing cost difference between a Tiguan and a Golf Sportwagon is less than $1K, but average sale price is nearly $4000 more. On top of that, depreciation in a Tiguan is much less steep than the wagon, which means lease prices are actually lower for the Tiguan. So with the Tiguan VW makes more money, most customers are spending less money, and the average American sees it as getting more car compared to the Golf Sportwagon. That leaves the only would be customers for the wagon to be enthusiasts; and much to the chagrin of all of us, enthusiasts don't buy economy or mid-market cars new, we buy them used, providing no incentive for the manufacturers to serve us except at the high end where the margins justify the low volume.

I swear, people are getting dumber and dumber as the years pass. Soon they won't even be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

I'm glad you seeing a different light. I have my 2005 matrix and even though I have almost 200k miles or 300k km for mileage without too much maintenance made me get 2020 corolla due to history of that reliability and low cost maintenance

They should have bought a wagon. Would fit with no problem. Except Americans don't buy wagons.

palebeachbum they do. They’re called SUVs

@@404nobrakes noooo, not the same. SUVs are actually taller riding hatchbacks. Wagons have a longer rear overhang in comparison. Plus the car ride height, obviously.

32" LCD maximum. Anything bigger, and it won't fit in the back seat.

@@palebeachbum I'm American and I've only owned wagons... so far.

Hey yo , you sound just like him but less depressed

We get that too, the 1.8l hybrid is offered in the US. What Europe gets that we don't is the second hybrid with the 2.0 l engine and the wonderful ESTATE.

Some EU countries get more trim level choices, you can get them as EU imports.

The majority of the new Corollas I've seen have been hybrid wagons.

Americans stupidly don't get enough wagon options. No Corolla or Accord or Camry or Civic wagons for example

@@jamesmedina2062 You don't get them because no one on america buys them, you had wagons, no one bought them, so of course no one is going to offer them, losing money in the process.

A Toyota dealership quoted me $19,995 for a 2020 Corolla SE hatchback.

@@thundergato84 sounds about right if its in American dollars

Where are you located to even have SE MT stock 😂

I would take the SE. 18" rims won't suit the rough roads around here .

@@rightlanehog3151 I almost went SE but I wanted some stuff that you could only get on XSE. At least the Canadian version.

@@revnto7k I am in Canada too so I am obsessed with summer potholes that turn into craters in the winter. What features were missing on the SE?

@@rightlanehog3151 On the hatch, dual zone climate control. And I also prefer the fog light bumper because I hate the blanks on the SE.

Agree on choice of Corolla engine choice vs. Civic. But if the Civic has Port Injection...the Civic is better hands down...

I once rented a 2012 Corolla for a week, after a week with a nearly-new '12 Focus. It was a pleasure to switch to a simpler car in which everything, including the traditional 4-speed automatic, worked as it should - like it was designed and built by people who actually care.

I was like that...Till I got my 2019 Corolla, radar cruise, and auto brights on top of auto lights, heated steering wheel and seats are all things I don't want to give up on my next car. Maybe by then the lane assist crap will be better, but it's still kind of cool when it works. I agree the infotainment is a joke, may as well have copied Mazdas dash completely, cause the new ones seem inspired by them.

I have a 2010, too! Base model, no bells and whistles, and it’s reliable as hell. Could I afford something fancier? Sure, but I’d rather stick with a car that I can count on that’s also PAID OFF.

I used to say that, you will change your tune fast once you get hands on these new ones. Coming from someone who also owns a 2005 toyota matrix as we speak. You will clap your hands in appreciation.

I love my 2013 corolla S. I wish I had a manual transmission but at least it’s still an automatic transmission and the last year a Corolla had an automatic.

Exactly.

It's getting rarer and rarer. Although several compact cars still offer that combination, which is pretty great. I got my N/A MT kicks with a new 2019 Miata. Barring any transmission issues, maybe the simple design will stand the test of time.

Rev up your engines!

Not a Celica, but close

Dr. Kaufmann not like those other endless moneypits

Kizzle hahahaha

He must have the dash lights cranked all the way up for the video, rather than turned down far as possible for better night vision. Or, he jumped in to drive the car right after the cam girl 😂

They dont have any benefit. They reviews complained for a decade about the rubberband effect and as a result fake shifts were put in .

Too many people complaining about how CVTs feel weird, so Toyota did this to satisfy traditional drivers. Even at the expense of power or efficiency. It's not just Toyota. A lot of car companies are doing this now to their CVTs.

Silberpfeil I know the original video said Jan 3rd like wtf, come on goose give the people what they want.....and it’s not a carolla

I hope they go into detail on the LSD (type, slip percentage) on the ND(2) because there is not a lot of solid info out there on this topic.

I'm hoping for a Turbowski appearance in the ND episode.

@@rosswallace2969 i think hes trolling us at this point, literally a COROLLA

I have a 2012 corolla sport, it was feel numb until I change lighter rims and tyres, it drives like a really different car and handles way better on corners now and since im done with financing the car ill upgrade the suspension to have fun to drive on corners

I respect you like it however for me it is so bad it hurts my eyes to look at it.

@@dantheman1337 I agree. The waterfall grille design is not good looking at all in my opinion

What do you mean overdue? Their new crap is barely out and you want a newer one?

@@Christian--- No. Are you aware of the last generation Corolla and Camry etc? If so, then my comment will make more sense.

Wow. I'm currently looking at the 2020 hatchback. That is awesome MPG's.

Funny how my DIN radio is in the dash and the most modular thing in my car.

@@Christian--- you're still confined to whatever size the DIN is though. You cant get larger in screen size without getting in the way of other controls.

I agree with you, I own one and it was the best new car buying decision I ever made. Coming from a used Toyota that I got for $3100 that I still have for 8 years and running with almost 300k km along with new 2020.corolla le.i have now

Agreed!

Hatchback owner here. Most people say it is small, I fit my girlfriend and another couple in it just fine. We are all above 180cm tall.

test drive one. i have this car. you will love it. i highly recommend

You not planning to keep that corolla if leasing eh

@@alvinsimba734 No. The XSE is nice, but if I decided to buy a coraolla instead of leading in 3 years, I'll probably drop down to an SE because of the cloth seats, plus, the electronic gague cluster hasn't impressed me at all, but, I'll make sure and compare and contrast when the time comes. Don't get me wrong, I love the car overall, but its easier to go top-of-the-line in a lease. When you buy it outright, what options matter and what doesn't become more paramount, at least to me.

@Richard Favreau So far so good as far as the tires go, and no problems overall. There is an issue with the windows fogging up easily. That has bothered me a bit. Look, in spite of it being an XSE, it's still a Corolla. It's a very comfortable car. I could drive in the car for hours and not be bothered, certainly a big deal. It has tons of safety features, something companies like BMW and Mercedes have been lagging on, but even with the bigger engine, it's never going to be a car that wows you mechanically. The bigger engine just makes acceleration acceptable instead of adequate. It is what it is, and what it is is a comfortable car that will keep you very happy....to a point.

Love your... LeBaron avatar

Take 5000$-6500$ off durring the clearance event and you can get the top trim Corolla for under 20k. Toyotas MSRP is for stupid people

Daniel G or you just buy it after a year of depreciation

Corolla SE manual .

Everyday

Problem is the Mazda 3 is more expensive and doesnt holds it resale value as well as the Yota. And I agree 100% with you ,lol.

@@timothycc711 Who cares about resale value if you plan on keeping it long

@@timothycc711 They pretty much cost the same in Canada.

@@vlads2874 well it be nice to keep a car as long as you want. Unfortunately there are accidents and therefore settlements on value. Therefore resale value rears its ugly head. So yes you always have to consider resale value.

Same here, just get the gs350 or es350

huanuoya or even the ES300/330

@@THEFIRE360 true.

Yeah maybe a 10 year old lexus with 100k miles haha. Even a 3 year old Lexus ES350 will cost nearly double the Corolla.

THEFIRE360 nah those have timing belts, I’m with the others get the GS350 or ES350.

How? Mine doesnt, the one in the show room did though. Felt like o got scammed and then got over it. (SE manual model)

@@Xachremos uploaded a video just for you. Check my channel for the armrest magic

It does! The one at Evans Toyota Fort Wayne certainly did!

Press cars are almost always fully loaded to showcase all available features.

Because steel and sheet metal are not the most expensive components of a vehicle.

Many reasons, including ever-increasing government standards and mandated items on new vehicles. It all costs money to develop and include, and they're gonna price the vehicles in a way to ensure they recoup all development costs on a new vehicle, of which there are many. Lane departure warning, automatic braking, backup cameras, increasing mechanical complexity to meet CAFE standards, licensed software like Carplay and AA--none of it's free.

@@thatoneotherotherguy Plus inflation. You can't forget inflation. $12k bought a "nicely equipped" midsize sedan 25yrs ago.

I just bought a 2020 Toyota Camry SE in December and it was around 10% off msrp. It originally costed around 27,000 but the dealership had a discount of $2000 off with a rebate of $1000, and I only had to pay $24,450!

Wat? Since when Camry is compact?

Isn't there 1.2 turbo manual in Europe?!

@@JohnyMcNeal maybe there is, I'm in the US so it doesnt make a difference to me.

@Tom ooof yes no thanks.. I'm talking 200hp+ would be awesome

Yes someone finally points it out! 👍 i've hated Toyota gauges for a while. Noticed them first in an SW20 then i could never unsee their cheap or lazy gauge cluster design.

i agree. i bought this car and i was a bit skeptical/unsatisfied with the placement of the screen. it definitely has to grow on you. i definitely love the practicality of the buttons and the two scroll knobs it has. they feel good when you turn them

People who have never been beaten over the head with a tablet. In the Auto industry it's always the stupid ideas that get approved for production

Toyota just previewed an upcoming 250 HP, AWD Yaris so we need to aim for at least 400 hp with the Corolla ;)

They are still in short supply for the press fleet. When they start building them in Kentucky there ought to be enough for consumers and reviewers.