I actually bought the 2019 when it first released and well love it... I have no issues with it so far. The speakers on it are killer and it's still crazy fast for all the tasks that I need to do on it.... My only problem with it is that literally the next apple event they announced the new apple silicon which caused my MacBook to drop in price over night ;(... However, if anyone is in the market for a new MacBook do not write off the 2019. You can probably find one for a steal right now... Even though I am a little mad 😡 about apple silicon, I am definitely looking forward to getting a newer MacBook with apple silicon whenever my Intel MacBook kicks the can

I spent $4400 on mine smh... about a year ago.

I’ve been debating that exact machine. I’ve been swayed though because the 14” M1 with 16 GB RAM and 1 TB is about the same price. You don’t need as much RAM. The screen may be a little smaller but the resolution is better… so more pixels. And I can go without the internal storage as I’ll be connecting my NVME xternal.

@@kerose If you're using a 3D software like Blender like me you will need all the Ram you can get.

@@easytiger3302 sure. I imagine. I’m using it for audio. Moderate sample libraries.

@@kerose I recommend 32 Rams to run several sound software.

I have both, the M1 is faster and battery life is insane, but the look of the Intel is better and my M1 has a bug where the speakers go out of sync with any videos I'm trying to watch. Pretty obnoxious.

I bought the 2019 macbook 16" last year and I'm delighted with it. It's doing everything I hoped it would, with no problems at all.

@@jackspring7709 still worth it buying now? even with intel graphics ? for arround 800?

@@BladyCarrasco17 I would say yes at that price - just bear a few things in mind: I use mine for video editing, recording music and graphics. Your uses may be different. Also - the model I picked is 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD drive. I don't know which one you're considering - 8 or 16GB? For my own uses it's one of the best buys I've ever made and I'll be using it for a long time to come. But I would say, before you make a final decision - do a bit of research on what exactly your uses would be for the next 1+ years (at least) and a bit of research on how the one you're thinking of would handle those uses: thankfully there are a lot of good reviews on youtube and the internet in general. But that sounds like an excellent price. I hope that helps in some way.

The Touchbar won’t return.

@@m-stat9 You have zero knowledge about that topic.

Did you get the M2 Max Macbook Pro? Do you think it is worth it?

video has 41 dislikes because people hate that he loves the new laptop and hates the old.

Brand new?

That’s a fantastic bargain!

Bought a used MacBook pro, i9, 64gb, 2Tb for 900

@@RPEpsilon-lc4vm Congratulations!

How’s the battery life ?

yes it does. I am going to run WIN on my 2019 once i get it and i own m1 max 64gb already.

100 true

Me too

and 1/3 of battery life

Fax

@@alexanderbersenev650 change battery ebay APPLE OEM battery for 75 dollars.

It feels like they cheapened it this year

It heats up quite sometimes

@@Polomiumm which?

@@diceydaze 2019 i9 mbp

Looks like 2019 wins for me save 2k for a lcd

These laptops are good for up to 5yrs, save your money.

save for MAc MINI OR mac studio better.

Yea that’s the smart decision

Sure, if you’ve already got one. Upgrading from a 2015 it’s quite the opposite depending on use case of course.

You don't even need i9 to code. Coding is bascially text editing. If you are to run some scripts, compile code or emulate iOS and Android devices, the i7 could do the job. It really depends on how far you are going with your coding. Also, it depends on how much you do multi-tasking. Overall, the M1 offers better performances, but comes at a premium price. Said otherwise, you'll be just fine with the 2019! :)

They dont put hard drives in 2019 models.

That's the only reason why I actually came to this video -__-

Regular M1 and 9th gen Core i9 are pretty similar in performance, you can check Luke Miani’s videos as he’s done a pretty detailed comparison

Google MAC benchmark and go to the geek bench page. Talking 16” specs. M1pro single core is 70% faster than the fastest 2019. 9970HK. Multi core score it is almost twice as fast. It’s pretty remarkable.

i have the new one, it feels like a heavy desktop. 2019 feels sleek and cool and fast i have 64gb ram i9..its best 16"

Exactly

Touch Bar is the reason I moved to Apple now I am back to windows. I play guitar so using the music software I could alter effect without putting my plectrum down and grabbing the mouse. Unfortunately the new MacBook is a disappointment and looks cheap so bought a raser 15 advance.

@@reddope8883 I loved my 16” MacBook but a friend offered me the going rate so I have sold it now. The razer blade advance has the 3080 which runs a VR really well so no point in having a Mac just for Final Cut Pro when I have cut down on video editing

@@greeny8214 I want to buy a macbook pro too. I produce music, still go to school (looking forward to use it for schoolwork, since i have other apple devices) and for basic browsing and some photo/video editing here and there (barely) I can‘t choose between these two: -macbook pro m1 2021 16gb ram 16inch personal pros: - i kinda like the notch and the screen in general - m1 performance - magsafe fast charge - battery life personal cons: - could not support plugins for my music production (especially if i get some 3rd party ones) because it‘s too new - the 2021 model is too thick, i like the slim design of the 2019 model - its more expensive - no touchbar and the -macbook pro i9 2019 16inch 16gb ram personal pros: - cheaper - does support my plugins for music production - slim design - touchbar personal cons: - no magsafe charging - worse battery - its just older What do you think i should get?

@@David-wg7zs the new version has a better chip which is out of this world but I would have rather have a powerful gpu than a cpu. I used a external gpu (razor X core with a rx5700) with a 2017 MacBook Pro 13” and it ran final but pro as good as my 2019 with 8gb graphics so maybe have a look at that idea.

They are very different. 2016 MacBook Pro has the butterfly keyboard and these models have the scissor switches.

@@taylorfinelli8539 Thanks for the information! Which one do you prefer?

@@Volarink I like the newer keyboard (Magic Keyboard) way more. They have more key travel and I feel like I make a lot less mistakes when typing because I can actually feel the keys being pressed. They are also more reliable. The keys don't stick, break, or anything like the Butterfly Keyboards often do.

@@taylorfinelli8539 thank you so much for this! You da best❤️🤗

@@Volarink Glad I could help! :)

I've been using 2013 MBP (A1398) for similar tasks and it is more than enough for programming. even for mobile development and running at the same time iOS simulator and Android emulator. I believe that you can choose completely every model with 16 inch display.

@@user-ok7gy1iq4k Thanks!

Even the i5 2020 16gb ram MacBook Pro is enough

Bro people have done that on Chromebook. Bigger screen can accommodate more text and functions and generally better to navigate around code. Both will do a good job.

Correction: $1000 is 880€ and 1200€ is almost $1400. For $1000 you can’t get a 2019 16”, but for $1400 you can and it’s definitely worth it!

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Excuse to make the macbook cheaper to make.

@@Submersed24 YUP...cutting production costs for board members and stock holders. We are going to RECESSION. Thanks Biden/CHINA. APPLE..no thanks

I bought the 2019 macbook Pro last year and I'm still delighted with it.

How’s the battery life ?

What do you do with all that power sir? And that comparison you suggest is what I'm looking to find too.. Not being able to use bootcamp is almost a deal breaker for me, but I will be willing to consider the M1 Max since I mostly use MacOS

The new 2021 starts at $2300 with student discount and starts at 512gb so it’s not the 2021 model. The 2019 model will probably be a better buy

I considered a very similar MBP 2019 16" listed at a bit more than $2000 CAN. For the 2021 model, at the very least I would upgrade the SSD to 1TB and double the ram to 32GB. Of course with such upgrades, along with the ridiculous taxes in Canada, it would cost at least double that of the 2019 MBP. So, unless you're fine with the price and in need of serious power usage - and long work sessions on battery, it may be worthwhile to consider the 2019 MBP - provided that it's in excellent condition - or a different MacBook Pro model. My situation and reasoning is this: I will likely buy a new 13.3 MacBook Air M1 with 16GB ram and 1TB storage. I need something now. I recently bought the base model, but I will return it, and get another with the upgrades listed above. When I finally buy a new MacBook Pro it will stay at my home desk, and I'll carry the Air to and from office(s), hotels and meetings. I intend to use either machine for music production, and occasionally edit 4K videos - usually less than 20 minutes each. That is the most power-intensive usage I require for now, or even anticipate needing for the next couple of years. Additional information: Ultimately you make the purchase decision based on your usage and understanding of its capabilities. I have read several complaints about the heat distribution/thermals specific to 16" MBP 2019. That alone has me decided, to simply keep the MacBook Air and pick up a 4K monitor, for now anyways. I hope this post has you closer to an informed decision rather than information overload. All the best to you in your present and future endeavours.

@@WorldvsTruth thank you for your time and insight, fist off i only use traktor to dj but i want to buy a computer that would allow me to learn on producing some tracks on my free time with either ableton live 11 or the software Apple used i hear good things,,,,, or Even both if i learn how. Now in the other hand i do not know how to push the computer to its limits or what i need all i know is i need a kick ass Apple that is a 7-8/10 or close to 8 out of ten Even if i dont know how to use it. I really dont want to spend time fixing my laptop in order to learn the software. So its either a New macbook pro 14 base model or if i need it ill give that extra 500 bucks. But i also found a used macbook pro m1 13 inch 16gb ram with 2tb ssd and Apple care Till 2023 or 24 or something like that. The New one Will cost me 3500 And the used one is 1800 or Even 1700. Is the used one good enough for strickly music production and occasionaly some djing with traktor. Please help me make my mind out and save me from my gearholikism making stupid choises and maxing out to the gils, im tiered.

@@mikedubz5576 You're welcome. I recently edited my post. It now contains some different options to consider.

@@WorldvsTruth so m1 16gb and or m1pro 16gb should be good enough right. I mean i can shoot the the max with 64gb butl like i said i dont wan to spend all my cash on only a computer id like to buy vst's a mixer with a soundcard for tracking and some step sequencer from novation and much much more rather then dumping 5+k on a macbook when and if the m1 16gb or m1 pro 16gb would do the trick. People race about the macbook air m1 8gb with the 7 core GPU let alone the one with the 8 core GPU and now 16gb would be ready to fly. I saw comparisson where it came neck to neck with the Mac pro 15 thouuuuu dalllaz

Thanks for the very sensible suggestion. I'll keep my MacBook Air M1 as my daily driver for the time being. 👍🏽

And?

Yupp I was psyched to get a macbook and this gen came out. It's aweful

LOVE YOUR REVIEW...BEST EVER...MADE MY NIGHT.. SINCE STEVE JOBS. APPLE HAS GONE BACKWARDS. PHONE DESIGNS TOO. MISSING SAMSUNG ON IPHONES BUT REST IS SAMSUNG EVEN THE SCREEN SOURCE.

I agree. I felt like he just read the specs, which we could have done ourselves on the Apple website. I was hoping for a performance comparison.

How do I uninstall the memory of this comment?

The MacBook Pro is not for you, the MacBook Air is from consumers. People don't understand that a pro machine should be thick for good battery life and thermals...

@@cameronbosch1213 You are absolutely right Cam!!! ---> The form, fit and function of the 2021 MBPs are phenomenal. The form is absolutely mobile. The fit is totally professional. The function is pure performance.

​@@terryquinalty I think it's great Apple actually is giving pros the needed tools to complete their work, as along with the education market, it was one of their last pillars of support during the 1990s before Steve Jobs returned and saved the company (Photoshop and Digital Audio Workstations Cubase & Ableton Live were originally macOS exclusive before opening up to both Windows and macOS). Pros don't usually care about weight (unless it's like 8 pounds or something crazy like that) and they certainly will take a few millimeters of thickness in exchange for more ports, a better keyboard, better thermal and cooling for more performance for their work, and better battery life to work longer on the go. And personally, I think Apple is making the right move here; making the Air the thin and light option for maximum portability and the Pro the heavy hitter for professionals, which is how it should have been and it was with the PowerBook series and MacBook Pro series except for October 2016, when Apple executives began to see the MacBook Pro as more a consumer/prosumer machine and it suffer because of that. - The great battery life was shrunk and made worse due to the machine no longer being thick enough to carry the 99 watt hour battery of the 2015 15 inch model - The good port selection was stripped to dongle hell (on the 2012 Retina MacBook Pros, they successfully predicted the demise of the optical drive and the replacement of FireWire with Thunderbolt, and Ethernet was niche enough to not really be needed, but the Thunderbolt 3 / USB-C future did not work for the pros using the laptops and never really panned out to begin with), not to mention that they tried to kill the most brilliant charging solution ever made in the form of MagSafe (designed based on Japanese pressure cookers' plugs) and nobody could replacate it. - The Touch Bar was a underwhelming gimmick at best and a time-waster at worst; "it just works" didn't apply to it, and it felt like a step backwards from professional, who didn't want to look at the keyboard for everything on the small number of apps that supported the Touch Bar, which was too small to be useful and froze so frequently that Apple added a physical Escape key on the 2019 / 2020 models. - The thermal limitations became very severe (to the point that the 2018 Intel i9 15 inch MacBook Pro was slower than the top-specced 2017 15 inch model unless it the 2018 model was put in the freezer, all due to the laptops becoming too thin for good cooling). Professionals don't really complain about the 2012 - 2015 models being too thin, they just wanted faster computers, and they got the opposite for more money than with an equivalently specced Windows PC, which often got hardware updates more frequently and cost less. - The flawless keyboard with an exceptional typing experience and near universal acclaim was scrapped and replaced with one of the most divisive keyboards ever in a laptop that (in my opinion) was the worst keyboard ever (apart from maybe the Dell XPS 2-in-1 MagLev keyboard, which uses a similar idea) that no matter what Apple did, they couldn't fix the faulty design to stop them from breaking or repeating keystrokes unpredictably. This was so bad that the 2019 13 inch and 15 inch models, the last ones with the butterfly keyboard, were put on the keyboard repair program the day of release, and Apple is still facing two class--action lawsuits regarding the butterfly keyboard. For a professional machine, being without a working computer is a big no-no and that exactly what these users had to do. October 2021 was the confirmation that Apple was taking the professionals seriously after being abadoned with the 2013 Mac Pro with similar issues and no updates until 2019, when the price doubled (from $3000 to $6000) for a super low amount of RAM, SSD storage, and low-end GPU for the price; it was also out of many professionals' reach, causing them to despise Apple even more. $2000 is a lot of money, but it's less money for more performance than MacBook Pros and Mac Pros were in the past. And with better reliability, I think Apple has a hit here. And this is coming from somebody who used to mock Apple for overpriced hardware and macOS as a "sterile Windows" and who left iPhones after the iPhone 7 launch without a headphone jack and the $1000 iPhone X.

True

Snit is ugly as fuck but probably outperforms the 2019 one