is that 60mpg only the battery is fully charged and used as a hybrid?

@@xboxone8033 Fully charged between trips, nearly all local trips within the 20+ mile EV range and using "save" mode at highway speeds on day trips significantly beyond EV range. Getting between 38-40 mpg as a hybrid on long road trips where we can't plug it in.

@@timerney9767 thats actually pretty good, thank you 😉

@@xboxone8033 You're welcome. And with good ground clearance and AWD we've been able to get to some places in the forest for mushroom hunting that I wouldn't want to try in a regular passenger sedan.

See about using B for Boost. When I'm in B in my Hybrid, it seems to accelerate quite a bit faster. They say it's for braking but I think it's a secret BLAST mode!

The biggest problem I have with plug in hybrids is that you essentially have both a battery hybrid and a gas car. I have a 2005 Honda Accord Hybrid. The battery went at about 100K miles and was $3K to replace and I was only given a 12 month warranty at first and had to demand that they cover it for 3 years. You're giving me a brand new battery, why not cover it the same length of time? Then, of course, when the gas engine or transmission has issues, you have to deal with that too. It's actually the worst of both worlds. I love the fact that it's a V6, but if I had to do it again, I'd just get a gas car or a BEV.

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 $3k really isn’t that bad but it’s true they are more complex. I think it’s like $18k to replace the entire battery in my Chevy Bolt. There’s the potential to replace single packs within the batteries if the technicians know what they’re doing and it could save a ton of money.

@@jensn6490 Sure, a car that runs on nothing but the battery is going to have a much larger battery and will therefore be way more expensive to replace. However, if you have, I don't know, a Tesla Model 3, those cars are still on the road with over 400K miles, so let's just say at half a million miles the battery goes and you have to replace it. At that point, I'd probably just junk it and buy a new car. 400K miles is way more than I've ever gotten with my gas cars. What I wouldn't want, however, is for my transmission and engine to go, as happens with your typical gas car and on top of that have to replace the battery at 90K miles as well. With that said, I'm actually considering buying the 2023 Crosstrek Hybrid. I need to do more research to find out how many miles will it go before the battery needs to be replaced. Most of my driving is less than 17 miles and if 80% of the time my trips are less than that, I could save a ton on gas and not have to be so worried when gas is $5 a gallon. Add to that the rebates we get for buying a plug in hybrid and the cost is pretty comparable to just buying a gas car.

@@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403 Hi, owner of a 2020 Crosstrek Hybrid here. The battery has a 15 year / 150,000 mile warranty. Also, the battery is much, much larger than something like a Honda Accord hybrid, meaning that as it naturally loses capacity over time, all that will happen is the range might go down by one or two miles. Heat is the number one thing that degrades batteries. The battery in the Crosstrek Hybrid has a cooling system, so it will be less susceptible to that. If you didn't know, the car is jointly engineered and produced with Toyota, a name synonymous with both hybrids and reliability. The transmission in this car is actually not a CVT in the traditional sense. It has variable ratios but that is accomplished with a planetary gear set, a WAY simpler design that Toyota has been using for years. Known to be one of the most reliable transmission designs. The engine in this car is the same one used in a regular Impreza/Crosstrek, and is reliable as long as you keep up with the maintenance. (Full synthetic oil, changed every 6,000 miles or 6 months, per the manual.) And as far as MPG goes, I usually average around 85 MPG. I charge it every night and drive about 50 miles a day. I really like the car and can't say enough good things about it. The AWD is absolutely incredible. I am a big time skier and this thing is literally UNSTOPPABLE even in the worst snowstorms, provided you install winter tires.

Tax credit assuming you owe federal taxes upto $4500. Not a rebate. There is a separate state rebate depending upon where you live

That is correct.

@@z1az285 thanks

@@z1az285 is it normal to owe more than $3k in fed tax?

@@bernie3075 Depends on your situation. Speaking from personal experience both yes and no.

Please do.

how much is the fast charger install at home?

@@downhillgroovy5859 fast sharper= 2hrs; regular outlet= 5 hrs

This is true for most any plug-in hybrid because the batteries are so much smaller than an EV so even level 1 charging (aka regular wall plug) can easily charge the battery in 4-5 hour.

Automatically defaults to electric but switches to gas when the motor cant keep up

Should be out soon

Buy the 2020, I just picked one up at a discounted price. There is no difference between the 2020 and the 2021.

@@brianleard7085 how much is your TOD? or how much did you pay before taxes?

@@tanyakerd6849 picked it up for 35,500 at premier subaru in Connecticut. Fully loaded with the option package #2. Msrp was 39,300.

@@brianleard7085 Thank you. Is $35,500 included all taxes, doc & dealer, dmv fees?

The electric motor itself recharges the battery not an alternator

One you get to about highway speeds it flips over

Ground clearance is 8.7", and we've been up some gnarly roads in ours here in Oregon. Haven't driven in snow yet but it has the same symmetrical AWD system as any other Crosstrek, and based on reports from other owners it performs very well in snow. It can also be lifted and fitted with different rim/tire combinations.

That's 90 MPGe, not the same as MPG. e stands for "equivalent" I believe. It's just arbitrary efficiency rating when it comes to electric cars. Actual MPG rating for it is around 35 when used with depleted batteries and 50 when you charge batteries between trips.

Of course you can. As long as there’s gasoline in the tank you can use it like a regular car. Just know the mileage won’t be as great as when you use it with a fully charged battery. The regenerative braking will charge the battery a good bit though.

@@fansgalorellc621 ooh that’s awesome! Thank you so much for the reply. This helps with adding in more factors with my decision for my next car. I’ve always wanted a Subaru.

@@stephanniev9 I highly recommend it. Subaru has come a long way and whatever they’re doing absolutely works amazing. I’m satisfied with my 2019 limited still.

@@fansgalorellc621 thank you for the reply! I’m going on my test drive on Saturday! I’m ready to be a part of the Subaru family

Need to do this with my Highlander Hybrid. Can't believe I haven't done it yet!

I’ve heard of people getting 1000 miles with this thing

​@@09impala are you talking about a 1000mi per tank of gas ?

@@tonybieker9306 Per tank of gas and a full charge. I personally don’t think the average person could do that good but it certainly has more range than the standard cross trek without some serious hypermiling

@@09impala That's very interesting. I just looked up hypermiling. So I can see if the crosstrek had say a 20g tank with maybe a gallon or two reserve and got close to 50mpg that could go 1k mi. on a tank. But I have to say I'm eager to become a hypermiler !:)

Yeah with the tax break if my math serves right and assuming the city driving you do, but the hwy miles cut the efficiency and $ savings of the hybrid system drastically as you know by asking this question. I only know because I had the same question for my RAV4 hybrid.

Yep. In mine you can. Not sure about this thing.

Since it’s a hybrid the engine is made to be cycled on and off continuously. It doesn’t use a regular starter to start the car. The actual generator can start and stop the engine.

Not really, a lot of modern cars do it

Yeah it's not very good. Might as well drive a used Volt and be happy about it.

@@Ntmoffi the problem is that only Subaru hybrid has all wheel drive at all times no one else besides Porsche! Even as a gas hybrid with low battery still better then Toyota RAV4 and Honda mpg combined

If your commute is 10-20 miles a day in theory never have to fill up your gas tank. The 35 mpg is after you use all the electric battery

@@TalkativeMime1 Exactly. If one has a very short commute (within range of the battery) it definitely makes sense, but there is no question that PHEV vehicles are way overpriced right now especially with markups. Hopefully the market will return to normal shortly

@@z1az285 Yea 100% I'm like 2-3 years out from when Im getting a new car and probably a crosstrek hoping either the battery gets a lot better or the price goes down by then

So if I am reading this correctly, this particular window sticker is not for this car. It appears that the car's rear view mirror is an auto dimming compass mirror with homelink. This does not come with the optional 2 package, but is always extra, and would be listed below the standard package for $2,500. I know because we bought this same car last week, with this additional extra.

Pushing 40k

Nothing set on it yet. I don’t know if it can happen though. The engine bay is pretty snug with the 2.5 and I don’t know if they could fit in electric motors, but who knows? If they do, then that’s awesome.

Nope

It’s probably possible, but a very time consuming process and once that’s very expensive as well. What year and trim do you have?

Pretty much any modification can be done to any vehicle, for a price. It would cost more than the difference in price between the fully loaded limited trim gas model and the hybrid model. You'd have to swap out everything but the frame, suspension, body and interior. But even the frame and body would need some modifications. Might as well just buy the hybrid model.

Waste of time

17 miles electric range is the minimum with headlights and heater running, otherwise we get over 20 miles of electric range. The battery never fully drains, the system is designed to maintain a certain battery reserve to run as a hybrid and the reduction in cargo space isn't enough to make any difference to us. We're getting 60 mpg overall. We paid $35k, received $1,500 cash back from the state and a $4,000 federal tax credit which brought our net cost down to just a few hundred dollars more than a fully loaded Limited gas version. After two years we've saved more in fuel cost than the difference in price, and the regenerative braking system greatly reduces wear on the physical brakes so we'll save even more with fewer brake pad changes. We're already past the break even point in cost savings, from here on out it's all gravy.

@@timerney9767 what do you pay per kilowatt for electricity to charge it up vs gas to go the same distance? From what I gather if I am correct I wasn't saving that much from paying for electricity vs gas prices in my area. I still wouldn't mind a PHEV with at least 50 miles all electric range still because the purpose for me to get one is so I can mainly drive on electricity and I need at least 50 miles of all electric for me. And also where I live the PHEV is not offered in my state and I couldn't take advantage of the incentives even if I were a able to get a dealer to locate one for me. Toyota offers a RAV4 PHEV now that has close to 50 miles range and more space but not sure if they offer them in my state. I gotta see if it is capable off the beaten path or just a pretender. It's either that or a gas Crosstrek. Without all the incentives these PHEV and EVs make no sense financially.

@@bubbalo3388 Our electricity rates are among the lowest in the country while our gas prices are among the highest. We pay .08/kwh but gas is around $3.00/gal. for premium. Fully charging the battery costs about .50 and we average about 20 miles EV driving per charge. If we compare it to our 2001 Forester that gets around 22mpg gas costs about six times more than electricity. If we compare it to the mileage we get in our Crosstrek PHEV in hybrid mode, around 38mpg, gas costs about three times more than electricity. The 20 mile EV range covers all of our local trips but most of our non-local trips tend to cover well over 100 miles, usually through mountainous terrain. Even when the gas engine has been running it always switches to EV mode when backing into the garage, no exhaust fumes in an enclosed space equals no asthma attack when my gf gets out of the car. To her, that factor alone is worth the higher sale price regardless of incentives.

We've had a Toyota Highlander Hybrid for 16 years. That system has more than paid for itself. Gas doesn't go down. And car prices go up. Ev and hybrid are the future.

35 is just the gas engine no battery, it’s about 50 mpg with the battery

We're getting over 63 mpg in our 2019 Crosstrek PHEV with more than 13,000 miles on the odometer. It only costs us 52 cents in electricity to fully charge the battery and we average over 20 miles of EV driving per charge, that means at today's local prices for the cost of a gallon of gas we can travel over 160 miles on electricity. Not too shabby. The EPA mpg rating doesn't take real world driving with short trips on battery alone into account, but we still get close to 40 mpg with the gas engine kicking in and out in hybrid mode which is consistent with what other owners have reported. We couldn't care less about sleeping in the back, gettin' too old for that shite. But the cargo space has been more than adequate, even on long road trips with all our gear. It's pretty much the perfect vehicle for us.

The wind buffeting you mention is on just about any car when you open just one window. How bad and what speed vary on the car. It's normal physics with the air pressure. Simply crack another window to get rid of that. Literally every car I've driven, this happens. Normal.

@@deansmits006 I agree - this happens with my Toyota Prius. Problem resolves when you open more windows, like you said.

It’s makes up for it with saving gas bruh

@@Carncal22 Yo, Bruh, that's a hell of a lot of gas to make that price economical!!! Bruh.

Toyota owns a 20% stake in Subaru, they've been collaborating on various projects for years now. The Crosstrek PHEV high voltage battery/controller and hybrid synergy drive train are based on a Toyota system which is also found in the Camry and Lexus models, among others. They hybrid system functions perfectly, the gas engine cutting in and out in hybrid mode is so smooth and seamless you don't even know it's happening. And it's still a Crosstrek with Subaru's symmetrical AWD system, excellent ground clearance, a comfortable ride, great handling, superb safety features... and we're getting 60mpg.

@@timerney9767 the ground clearance and AWD is what's making me consider switching from the Prius to this!! Tempting

The Crosstrek looks nothing like a Prius..

The Prius doesn’t have the ground clearance, AWD, and the Subaru is perfect for outdoor enthusiasts as there are many add-ons for that sort of thing. Prius is pretty ugly too.

Seriously. I abandoned ship when I saw that mask. Good grief.

good point. he's by himself. lol