What year was your outback?

Thanks a lot for your comment !!!! You gave us a great “review” of the car in just some lines!! - thanks again! - Angelica

Thats useful to know actually cheers.

I prefer the Forester. I drove both. The Forrester I in my opinion is the better value. In the premium trim, it is the best dollar for dollar.

I have had both, forester feels lighter and more motivated, Outback heavy and better ride plus mush quieter at highway speed. I could go either way when i purchase my next Subaru.

Where ride quality is concerned it's not even close. My Outback Onyx gives a far more comfortable ride than my Forester Sport did.

Thank you very much!

think about price. For what I got on my new Outback I could have gotten many more options on the Forester. Do your homework, look at trims and options, then make your choice.

That's correct my early test car didn't have this update yet.

yes. My 2021 Premium Outback has that. It's a wonky system but once you get used to it, it isn't that bad. It CAN be a pain but it has it's uses.

Understanding the pedal pressure is important for this feature. There's a fine line that is the difference between engaging it and not. And if it happens to disengage, you can always be better about timing your starts at traffic lights by paying attention to cross traffic.

That's good to hear

Much needed! Some of these auto start-stop systems are tolerable but I didn't feel that was the case with Subaru.

Do you regret not getting the turbo? I want the giddy up when necessary.

I feel the same way on all points

Thank you very much! Let me know what you think of the Forester and Outback. If you prefer American made, the Ford Escape Hybrid is a great SUV. The new Bronco Sport might also interest you. I haven't driven one yet, but I here it is basically a boxy Ford Escape.

Battling haha, swords and all sorts at dawn, boiling oil over the head and last man standing gets to choose.

Not a bad move I honestly preferred the 2019 Outback especially with the 3.6L engine

@@carhelpcorner Love my 2019 3.6 R

The older versions I prefer the forester. Recent models I think I prefer outback

Both are great choices. Thanks for sharing and hope you enjoy the Outback!

Which did you buy and are you still married?

@@frankhammond201 haha yea. We actually went with a Kia Sorento AWD. Better family car with the 3rd row little better value with the higher end features

A year how’s the sorento?

@@darlingowura468 it was great. Checked all the boxes for us. Did about 6k miles in road trips with my wife, two kids, and my brother. It was really fun to drive, it was quick. Unfortunately, it was totaled out. Some guy went too fast around a corner and slammed into it while it was parked. And pushed it about 10 feet up a a curb. Luckily no one was in it, and we got a lot back front when insurance because of crazy car prices. Cost of ownership was only like 2.5k for 18 months after settlement. We would buy it again but prices have gone up on them. So we’re waiting a bit.

how much for the OTD and the model specification?

Lucky person. I have to wait until Xmas and see what cash I have before I can get a new Subaru.

Yes my test car was early production and didn't have this update yet

What is the stop start you guys are all talking about I've never heard of it

Bet he got head that night

Okay, thanks for letting us know that your husband buys you things. Whats your point in telling a load of total strangers on KZfaq ?

@@oddities-whatnot blessings need to be shared! ❤

@@oddities-whatnot because like other people here who are telling people they "don't know" she's telling everyone how much she loves her Outback since the video is about the difference between the two and at the end of the video he asks everyone to leave comments if they have one of the two telling him what they like or don't like about them. Quit trying to be a smart aleck.

@@patriotwife3920 - Classy answer to a snarky and unnecessary response. Congrats on your new ride!

My early production tester didn't have that! Great to hear they added it.

We've had our Forrester since 2016 and we're still very happy with it.

It has good acceleration? I heard it's slow. I'm considering buying one

@@grovdogg19 I don't know about other trims but my Forester Sport has "Sport Mode" which makes accelerating quite effortless.

I've been researching this as i consider a Subaru purchase and i've come to the conclusion it would be advantageous to change fluid every 30,000 to 50,000 miles depending on your specific driving conditions

@@bobrich1950 Thanks for your support on this topic Rich. Have a nice day.

How does the forester compare to the rav

@@TheDon6 I like the Forester more. Yes I miss the 269hp 3.5 V6 from my old Rav, but the Forester has enough pep for my needs. I would buy another Forester over a Rav any day.

@@Doc1855 interesting thanks!

@@TheDon6 Now that I’ve had my Forester Touring for a few months and have taken it on a long trip, I enjoy it more than my old Rav. It’s quieter, more comfortable, visibility and traction is superior over the Rav. The heated rear seats are great (according to passengers). I never knew that I needed a heated steering wheel but now I know what I was missing. I would recommend the Forester Touring to anyone who needs a vehicle in the size of the Forester. They have more room than it looks like it would have.

@@Doc1855 thanks for the update! I’m scared to get a Subaru lol

The Outback w/the 2.5L engine (non-turbo) has a 2700 lb towing capacity. The Outback XT w/the turbo has a 3500 lb towing capacity. I have an '18 Forester touring (non-turbo), and I love it, but I'm seriously mulling over switching to the '21 Outback Touring XT - towing capacity, cargo space, heated AND ventilated front seats, and the 180 front camera have pretty well snagged me. I'd go to the Ascent (5000 lb towing capacity), but it is missing some of the things I can get in the Outback Touring XT for a lower cost. If we get a tiny travel trailer, I can handle it in the Outback, if we get one a little over 5000 lbs, my husband's truck can handle that.

@@wendymontie5660 thanks Wendy. I currently have 2015 Crosstrek which I tow a small utility trailer. Want to stay in the Subaru family to pull a larger trailer like a Hiker style to go out west. Leaning towards Outback.

Any consideration for fuel economy? Or according to some lack of it😉👍 (as far as I was told 11-13l/100km/62miles it's something to expect from 2.0 turbo,2.4 turbo petrols)

Theres a few left in the UK, but our petrol is expensive and the XT economy round town is rubbish.

One of my favorite things upgrading from a Crosstrek to an Outback is being able to fit my 9’ surfboard inside. Avoiding the hassle of strapping it on and off the roof each time is a big deal.

Does that turn it off permanently or just until you turn the car off and restart it again?

Does that turn it off for good or j

@@peterboesel3266 You need to turn it off every time you start the car. I think it has to do with the emissions testing.

good luck, i wish to have a '21 outback too!

what trim/options? I got a premuim a couple weeks ago. I'm really liking it.

@@terry58501 honestly it's the base but i like it as my very first outback, ill probably upgrade in a few years anyway for the higher trim...but right now im not really missing anything with having the base trim...

@@truckercowboyed2638 I say Premium but it is the 11 option package. Literally one step up from the base. I have an 11.6" touchscreen and heated seats. I think that's the difference.

Love my '21 Onyx XT. Overall a better vehicle than my previous 19 Forester Sport. I loved the Sport but the Outback has a far more comfortable seat and a smoother ride. The Turbo is icing on the cake

Yes that was a recent update my test car didn't have yet. Glad to hear you're enjoying it overall!

It's also on the 2020

What does everybody mean about the stop start mechanism I don't even know what that is!

@@sarahsundstrom1425 does Subaru have it? It’s when you stop, the engine shuts of. When you pull leg off the brake engine starts

The Forester is superior to the Outback 2.5 which just feels underpowered. If you are looking at the 2.4 turbo engine though then I'd have to give the edge to the Outback based strictly on driving feel.

I like the Outback at first too.. No way now.. The Forester is designed wheels deferential and size to haul a larger load then the Outback.. It's maybe the same engine but it's the design and strength of the body to move something.. Honestly Turbo has nothing to do with it.. Strength integrity in the body tows stuff. Do I want to tow with either of them... I rather have a v6.. then a 4.. The Forester I have will tow better then any v6 out there.. It's all about the design.. Honestly ..2 really great looking vehicles.. Towing ..no Question.. Forester.. I'm a male... My Foresters a women.. I hook nothing up to her with out asking after making love to her first.. I'm just simple nobody man.. She was worth it..

Outback

I test drove both and I prefer the outback. Also contrary to what we think with the engine power the outback is more aerodynamic and equally quick. Outback is longer and more roomy.

@@lowlifeangler I respect your comment.

I haven't been able to find anything 😞

@@anamarier4791 I went to a subaru dealership, but my credit wasn't good enough for a new one and I'm paying 20% interest with $2500 down .so I'm paying $650 a month 🤯

@@burnthecandleatbothendz my credit wasn't great either but they denied me flat out 😞

@@anamarier4791 sorry to hear that ,if you do get a crosstrek get the 2.5 liter, I love my crosstrek cant wait for winter to try it out

@@burnthecandleatbothendz I want the sport Forester 😞

I had the Forester Sport and traded it in for the Onyx and have absolutely zero regrets

I agree I prefer the Forester overall

I thing it is the outback. It is more wider and longer.

The Outback is definitely more comfortable in the seats and on the road. I owned the Forester Sport which was nice, but the Outback is very noticeably more comfortable. Especially for long trips

No issues for us, going on 2 years (2020 Outback Limited)

Yeah the Outback is noticeably roomier. Many buy it for that bonus alone.

Better tires than the OEM made my Forester handle very well.

Yes it is! So few new cars have that kind of visibility anymore

Thank you! I think you are on the right track considering the Forester. It should check most of your boxes. Other similar SUVs with excellent safety, low distraction, ease of use, and strong reliability include the Toyota RAV4 and Honda CR-V. Both of those also come in super efficient hybrids which are even better.

@@carhelpcorner thanks!!

Yes, in the UK id go for the Outback only because its got the biggest engine they do here, but it would be the outgoing model, the new one is a joke of a price.

Foresters have SRH too, but outback’s got the power!!!

@@tsheringsherpa5462 ya I just found that out recently on the Subaru site lmao.

They really aren't that similar. The rear opening height of the Outback is only 29", and it's over 30" on the Forster. I prefer the shape and height of the Forester's cargo space over the Outback.

Their difference is clear once you get in them. My wife and I test drove both and outback is just a longer and lower car. Forrester feels just right by comparison, taller driving position with clear visibility and perfectly maneuverable size.

I agree! I’m in the process of selecting/buying my first Subaru and I can’t seem to make up my mind in between these two!

When you think 2022 model will be out all the cars are 2021

Go Forester. That huge touchscreen in the Outback gets pretty annoying over time.

The Outback has an available moonroof. I’d recommend you head into the dealership and take a couple test drives.

Many conventional transmissions come with "lifetime" fluid which I don't agree with either. Even so, I haven't seen evidence that periodic fluid changes extend the life of CVTs. I think some have inherent design flaws which exist regardless of whether you change the fluid or not.

Maybe you should try a very difficult Google search worded like this: “does regular fluid changes make a transmission last longer?” There’s a lot of evidence to the affirmative. Is there any evidence that says “lifetime” fluid is awesome for transmission longevity? Nope.

@@buttsexandbananapeels maybe you should try the very difficult decision not to be a jerk about it...

@@SargontheGreat77 The logic behind your perception of a personal insult isn't my problem. Lighten up... and get your testosterone levels checked, Baby Diapers. Personally, I take insult from people that profit off their lies. If you like that sort of thing, go nuts... but taking issue with and directing spite at an organized fraud (lifetime fluids) that is a concerted effort of automakers to keep people making purchases they don't actually need to make isn't being a jerk. Same goes with rebutting an auto industry shill. Car Care Corner isn't a mechanic- he's a buyer and "consultant." Car Care Corner benefits by siding with automakers because he depends on them to supply vehicles for his reviews. Is it possible YOU'RE Car Care Corner and replied under the wrong KZfaq account? Maybe that's why you took issue with my comment when a normal and well-adjusted uninterested party would see it for what it was intended: a rebuttal against an obvious collusion and conspiracy among automakers to force unplanned purchases on a planned and predictable schedule. That's what "lifetime fluids" represent. It's a simple fact that changing fluid, regardless of type, is a necessary component of maintenance, safety, and preserving the lifetimes of major systems. ALL mechanics agree with this, or at least ones that are worth listening to. The evidence for increased longevity of CVTs (even with the garbage Nissan makes) with regular fluid changes is out there. Pointing that out and rebutting an anonymous party that holds a conflicting interest of personal profit by defending the organized deception of "lifetime fluids" is not being a jerk. If you choose to side with an automaker (who has the direct benefit of planned obsolescence) or one of their shills (above), that's your liability. That sort of thing, like your aggressive need to take insult where only your own liabilities of gullibility, negligence, ignorance, and/or conflicting interests would justify it is also not my problem. Me thinking you're a sad gullible willing victim of collusion, conspiracy and fraud does not make me a jerk. Me suspecting "Daniel Seif" is "Car Care Corner" and considering your overly estrogenized reaction to my comment does not make me a jerk. I'm very good at being a jerk. I know when I'm being a jerk. For instance: it's been my intention to be a complete jerk this entire time to YOU for taking umbrage with my relatively benign comment towards a "consultant" that has a direct benefit from siding with and spreading the deceptions of his potential clients. I've made this decision to commit to being a jerk because of my suspicion that "Daniel Seif" and "Car Care Corner" are one in the same, which would make you a deceptive POS in my opinion. If I'm wrong, by all means, stand in line with your hard-earned money and get ripped off every 100-150k miles... or significantly less in some instances. In the situation my suspicion regarding your identity is incorrect, I'm not sorry I've been a jerk this entire time as I don't see an issue with speaking in an aggressively poor manner towards a gullible overly-sensitive boo-hoo baby. Rub some dirt on your overly sensitive feelings and go cry your overly sensitive baby alligator tears to someone else, Alice. Life is hard.

And it would take me decades to do those mileages so I shouldnt have a problem.