2022 Bad Boy Mz vs Hustler raptor x dash xd vs Scag Liberty ZTR Homeowner Mowers $2800 to $5200

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Kevin Kelley

Kevin Kelley

Күн бұрын

Hustler dash xd comes in a 34 42 or 48” deck with kawasaki fr twin engines and 1800 transmissions
Hustler raptor x is 42” or 54” also has an xl package with flex forks and higher back seat
Xd is a 60” pictured it also comes with a 54 or some smaller options
Bad boy Mz rambler 42” single or twin kohler.
Mz magnum comes 48” or 54” kohler or kawasaki.
Bad boy avenger comes in 54 or 60 kohler or kawasaki
Scag Liberty is 36 48 52 or 61” kawasaki maybe a kohler with pro filter this year like the freedom z if we get low on kawasaki again. Liberty 52” as pictured was $116 a month 48 months 0%. 5 year warranty is capped at 750 hours awesome!!!
We are k and g mowers
623 n main Paris, Tx 75460
9035174093
Altoz gravely Spartan Exmark grasshopper toro ferris Worldlawn 2022
$2800 to $5200 range of mowers!! Review comparison.
Please keep in mind the dash xd is rated for 3/4 of an acre a week 26 times a year.
The ezt transmission mowers are rated for no more than an acre and a half.
The 2800 serviceable transmission can run cooler for longer periods of time. They are rated for no more than 2 acres, but I would still try to stay in the acre and a half range.
Stay tuned for my next video on the 3100 transmission mowers I call them estate class mowers.

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@HB-yq8gy
@HB-yq8gy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes another great educational video now I feel more confident finding the right zero turn. Thank you.
@ryanfarmer5155
@ryanfarmer5155 Жыл бұрын
Liberty z all day!! Such a well built mower, great deep cut quality, powerful, smooth steering, deck doesn't budge and rattle like most others.
@chris-vj5wu
@chris-vj5wu 2 жыл бұрын
I have the hustler raptor XD 54” with the 24hp Kawasaki and the only complaint i have is no gas gauge.Other then that it’s a beast!The 2800 trans and engine goes through anything and no bogging down.i love it and well worth the money.The precision in the hydros with no jerky movements.Great mower so far.Just hit 30 hrs and not a single issue except the steering alignment was off but they way they designed it where i was able to get it going straight in about 5 mins with a few adjustments and it goes straight as an arrow.
@TenaciousT32
@TenaciousT32 Жыл бұрын
Bad Boy makes an amazing mower. Deck is stout. Built to last. Just bought a ZT ELITE…so impressive.
@aaronfox915
@aaronfox915 2 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison video. These videos are very helpful. You give great information-pros and cons. Thanks.
@stephenhodge6441
@stephenhodge6441 5 ай бұрын
I wish one place had all 3 of those brands around me. Jackpot.
@ScottyLo
@ScottyLo 2 жыл бұрын
Another great comparison video brother. I wonder why all mowers don’t have easy access for maintenance like the Bad Boy mowers. Thanks again
@Growsapper
@Growsapper 2 жыл бұрын
Great detailed video!
@jaysheldon6443
@jaysheldon6443 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos thanks for your time. I wish you were my dealer
@team_1j_jont-179
@team_1j_jont-179 2 жыл бұрын
Im a professional landscaper with a lifetimes experience and i bought a dash xd last year. Had the intentions of using for gated areas but find myself using it alot more than that. For the price its amazing! God bless you kevin, your videos are helping consumers all over the united states.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish we could get more of the 34s they were great for back yards!! They even came out with a stander that was 4500 that was amazing, but we only saw 2.
@SzymczykProductions
@SzymczykProductions Жыл бұрын
Ariens XD52 52in is a much much better mower. Sounds like you have zero experience, kid.
@vancemoncrief3389
@vancemoncrief3389 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing your videos I work on mowers this is very educational a friend of mine is fixing to buy him a new zero turn because his Exmark commercial more blue engine I sent him this video he said thanks and tell you thanks it's very educational
@ikeyeet8312
@ikeyeet8312 2 жыл бұрын
Got my liberty Z 52" for $4600 last year. That thing is AWESOME. Scag gives 15% off for first responders. Great review, i haven't had the blow out issue on it.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
It’s only if it’s really dry and thin grass
@999benhonda
@999benhonda 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a raptor SD 1.5 years ago for $4k. I liked that it was shorter in length than others brands models in the same price range. Hustlers integrated brake is convenient and just makes sense.. I've put 210 hours on it so far, great size and it has been reliable. Hustler called the SD a residential mower, but it had all the commercial features I needed for the type/number of yards I mow. I did add some anti scalp wheels (42" deck only had one) and made my own deck flap lift for when the grass is tall or wet or to get through narrow gates. I've grossed $25k with the Hustler and she's got plenty of life left.
@jamesssss621
@jamesssss621 2 жыл бұрын
Did that model come with the 2200’s or the 2800’s?
@elmerpena1232
@elmerpena1232 Жыл бұрын
Where are you located I'm interested on one.
@coreyburse471
@coreyburse471 2 жыл бұрын
Great video sir.
@petervaughan9699
@petervaughan9699 22 күн бұрын
having an ad that plays for over 3 mins that you can't skip killed this video for me.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 22 күн бұрын
Dang that’s weird 🤔. What kinda ad is it?
@M70ACARRY
@M70ACARRY 6 ай бұрын
Those EZT hydros are serviceable now. Hydro-Gear put drain plugs in them now. No external filter, but at least a fluid change is easier.
@dutchmccutch615
@dutchmccutch615 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Spartan RZ 54inch. You could shoot it with a 12 pound parrot cannon and it would still keep mowing. Incredibly tough. For the price its in a league of its own.
@NotTelling51
@NotTelling51 2 жыл бұрын
good stuff...now lets see those big ones.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna do the 3100 machines next. Elite, xdx and the freedom z
@stephencromer1526
@stephencromer1526 10 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this video!
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 10 ай бұрын
Ty for watching and the comment :)
@wheeliebad11B
@wheeliebad11B 2 жыл бұрын
I've been running a a small hustler mower similar to the dash with a Honda motor professionaly for a few seasons now and can't say enough good things about it. I really only interested in honda powered equipment anymore. The rest have proven to be unreliable long term for me. I've heard good thing about the kawasaki, but haven't tried one.
@michaeldavis4338
@michaeldavis4338 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video!
@bakerh6834
@bakerh6834 2 жыл бұрын
great review bro. ippreciate it
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Ty for watching!!
@bradstroke
@bradstroke 2 жыл бұрын
I was told scag has introduced a 42” for 2022. I love this video, I just went to one my local dealer today and he showed me a raptor xd and was really liking the serviceable trans and was wondering if all their mowers had serviceable trans. This answers all my questions. Thank you
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Definately not. You have to ask. On Scag and grasshopper they all do, but the raptor x, bad boy magnum, and all other brands etc all have sealed in their bottom tier machines. It’s all about the price. Serviceable are a little higher. Scag does have a 42” Liberty now a hair over 5k with a 5 year 750 hour warranty that’s pretty sweet :)
@benjaminwilson6592
@benjaminwilson6592 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers I have a scag dealer offering $5088 otd on a 48inch Liberty Z. Or should I get the Spartan RZ 54 inch $5428 otd. Both have same Kawasaki
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwilson6592 that’s a hard one. Of course Scag is more proven, has a 5 year warranty, but the spartan is obviously a heavier duty built machine and waaay cooler looking. That’s a good price on both of them considering the times we are in. Seems a little low on the Scag for sure. They are $5200 at the sale price and that’s really not clearing much profit.
@chastheplayer8367
@chastheplayer8367 11 ай бұрын
Ive got the hustler version..great money machine..cuts good…
@nitrousair
@nitrousair Жыл бұрын
very informative video! I was on the line between the hustler xd 54" or bad boy Avenger 54". I wanted the avenger with the Kawi engine mainly for the beefy deck but with kawi engined bad boys being months out of stock, the hustler with the kawi was the way to go. local dealer had 3 available.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
Good choice. I did have a couple kawasaki avenger bad boys :)
@nitrousair
@nitrousair Жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers unfortunately I’m all the way up in MA!
@Rod-Sod
@Rod-Sod 11 ай бұрын
@@kgmowers Hey great video. Thank you for the info. I just got the 54 Raptor X. When I got home I noticed the wheels didn’t have lugs. It only had 1 center bolt to the shaft. That being said, have you had any issues with the wheels being loose vs the lugs? I almost want to get XD for the lugs. TIA
@ScagManWB
@ScagManWB 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Kevin. I purchased a Freedom Z this past spring and really like it. I did have an issue with deck blowout like you described in your video, and I bought the Hoover baffle about two months after I purchased the mower. The baffle eliminated the problem. Total cost including shipping was less than $120. I noticed that the list price of the Freedom has gone up over $700 since I bought mine. Is this happening as drastically with the other manufacturers? Keep up the good work on the videos!
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and it’s only gonna get worse. Right now most of our manufacturers are set up so that they can change prices within a weeks notice. Bad boy still hasn’t officially released pricing on the tractors. For 2 months we have no clue what retail is because they don’t really know what the price is gonna be.
@danielhancock8817
@danielhancock8817 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find more info on the Hoover baffle? I'm usually covered in dirt/dust every time I get off of my Liberty.
@MrThumper1440
@MrThumper1440 2 жыл бұрын
How does the Scag do on steep hills?
@heriberto3313
@heriberto3313 Жыл бұрын
Please recommendations for residential 6 acres
@gerardomateo9972
@gerardomateo9972 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way you explain it, very good , to bad you’re so far away from Connecticut because I like the hustlers xd If u can make another video about hostlers xd that’s be nice 👍🏻
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I’m coming to New Hampshire week after next I could bring one up with me if you could meet me or sometbing
@donaldshimkus539
@donaldshimkus539 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a Big Dog Alpha last Nov. Pd 2500 and it had 18.5 hrs on it. I was hoping for a Hustler, but ... Then I heard this is made by Hustler. What's your opinion?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes right along side in the same plant.
@dougdozier8782
@dougdozier8782 9 ай бұрын
Great video Kevin. I was hoping you could help me out. Im trying to decide between the Hustler Raptor X 42 KAW or the Bad Boy MZ Rambler 19HP Briggs and Stratton. I almost bought the Bad Boy today but was worried about the engine. What do you think?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 9 ай бұрын
I would do the twin engine and pay $300 extra on the hustler to get a full 5 year warranty on the engine and mower :). Just be careful ramming into stuff, deck isn’t near as stout as bad boy.
@josephpuchel6497
@josephpuchel6497 Жыл бұрын
Hello Kevin I subscribed you have a nice shop and excellent tutorials. I was looking for something in 34” residential ZTurn and came across the Hustler Dash. I like Kawasaki engine. Do you ship ? Thank you
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
We can only personally ship. You can have a driver pick up for you. We have a 36 Scag Liberty in stock is the closest thing to the dash right now or a 42 raptor x.
@ironman-sp9fg
@ironman-sp9fg Жыл бұрын
How does the cub cadet Zt1 46inch compare to these? seems like it's right there in the same price range of 3559-3759. Would like your feedback thanks
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
Ok so there is a dealer that has that mower on sale for $2999 in Pryor, Oklahoma. It has a 13 Guage deck, so it’s not gonna stay level as easy. Also it’s going to be prone to bending on the tabs much easier. There is a huge difference in quality of the frame work, and the deck support etc over the lt1. We really don’t have many cud cadets running around here, so most people don’t ask about them at all. If you go with the bad boy you get a 7 Guage deck, 11 Guage 2x2 frame, and it’s built like the m1 abrams tank $15k cub cadet for $3300.
@jeffrothegamer
@jeffrothegamer Жыл бұрын
I have s 2013 raptor unfortunately i think the transmissions gave out . I only need a 42 inch again but i want reliability. I have an acre. I trued a z54 cub cadet just too much mower for me. I keep lookn at the 48 inch hustler or a Husqvarna 48 . Here mixed about cadet same on bad boy
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
I would recommend stepping up to a 2800 serviceable transmission. Hustler raptor xd, avenger bad boy, Scag Liberty. The bad boy only does a 54 in that mower so I would step up to the 48 zt elite with 3100s if you wanted a bad boy
@trxguy84
@trxguy84 8 ай бұрын
Hydro gear is now showing the zt2200 as having drain plugs and being serviceable now new this year, can you confirm that is the case for 2023 machines, hustler etc?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 8 ай бұрын
Looks like it’s optional. So some factories may choose that option. So far haven’t seen that one yet. Gravely is the only one I saw on the zt-x that was promoting the “serviceble” 2200. The filter is fixed internal, so it’s not “fully servicable” like a 2800.
@mikeseebruck6170
@mikeseebruck6170 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin I am purchasing a large piece of land where the existing owner mows around 8 acres of land. It is beautiful like a park setting. Do you have any suggestions on what the best mower would be for this piece of property?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Anything commercial. Please go commercial and with any brand you should be good. Around $8k is where the full commercial starts with just about any. The nicer the mower the better the experience. If you could swing the next class around 10 to 11k your getting in the much better mowers.
@davidjudd221
@davidjudd221 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure to go with the best seat possible if you're mowing all 7 acres in one day. Preferably a seat that is spring mounted.
@bruinscoach
@bruinscoach 2 жыл бұрын
Highlight the 22 Maverick HD when you get it in 👍 😁
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
For sure I’m so excited about them. I bought a 42” Honda efi for my house
@GerardMiles
@GerardMiles Жыл бұрын
Best mower on the Planet - SPARTAN. End of story. Tried them all and nothing compares to a Spartan. From New Zealand.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
We were a dealer for them. Ended up finishing real strong the last year ended up being one of their best dealers.
@avguytx4361
@avguytx4361 10 ай бұрын
@@kgmowers I can't get past that push button start stuff. Why not just use a key? Hell, mine is in the garage and it's not like it would be crazy hard to bypass that.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 10 ай бұрын
@@avguytx4361 yes I agree one of the reasons why we don’t carry them anymore. I can’t tell you how many times a country boy had to spend $300 in here because of a button not pushing to start it
@dankollars4501
@dankollars4501 2 жыл бұрын
i had a hustler raptor sdx about 5 years ago and didnt like it. bolts fell off while mowing, poor cut in high grass, hydros were glitchy. i sold it after one season and got a ariens apex. not a single problem with it in 4 years of ownership. it is a much better mower than the hustler in every way. maybe i just got a lemon hustler?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure. It’s hit and miss with equipment. I believe most peoples issues are the dealer. Like the sdx will cut a lot better in tall grass with more aggressive blades like g6s. On bolts vibrating loose that’s pretty normal, on the glitchy hydros something definately needed address their because they are smoother than any mower Ive ever drove normally. We did have some issues with the transmission. Bolts working loose, and breaking the support between the trans, but they had an upgrade for it when it happened.
@jrw100990
@jrw100990 Жыл бұрын
Is scag sr engine any good? Can’t find any liberty near me with Kawasaki or kohler
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
Yes they are supposed to be much better and backed by scag
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 9 ай бұрын
Probably all made by MTD in Tennessee and if Stihl made a battery zero turn I'd have one BUT NOW I have a Craftsman BATTERY zero turn. LOVE it.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 9 ай бұрын
Mtd? These are all independent factories who build their own mowers. Stihl is made by Ferris.
@kevinrock5942
@kevinrock5942 12 күн бұрын
Get my raptor xd in a few days cant wait
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 12 күн бұрын
Congrats!! Did the dealer offer you the full 5 year warranty on your engine and mower for $300? If not tell him you want it. All he has to do is click it when he registers your mower
@zachdowling0520
@zachdowling0520 Жыл бұрын
I’m between the bad boy magnum and the hustler raptor x, any suggestion or advice?
@chevyguy1128
@chevyguy1128 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a brand new hustler raptor x54 I like it
@thomasanderson9358
@thomasanderson9358 9 ай бұрын
I got this mower specifically to be able to drive it through a 36 inch door kzfaq.infoUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend or gate It is a little tight with the grass deflector installed but has more clearance with the deflector replaced by the recycler/mulcher. This model appears to be popular and a little harder to find for that reason. I can't judge the dependability as I have only mowed the yard twice but everything else on the mower is very nice and working fine so far. I added options for the run hour timer, arm backrests, recycler/mulcher, towing bracket, deck lift assist and cover.
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 10 ай бұрын
To anyone thinking about buying a Hustler.... think twice. My supposedly heavy duty built Raptor SD has become nothing but trouble. Deck brackets, hydro brackets, etc.... 154 hours and three broken hydro brackets!!! Look elsewhere!
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 10 ай бұрын
Did your dealer do the upgrade crossbrace replacement? We have never had the upgrade break. It had a few issues, but they address all them quickly in replacements and then of course the new ones are awesome :)
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 10 ай бұрын
@@kgmowers Mine already has the crossbrace update from the factory. It’s the front and side brackets that all let go. 5 years old so there was no point in trying the dealer. Switching to Bad Boy very soon!
@Frank-mi3sf
@Frank-mi3sf 3 күн бұрын
Love my Raptor X but wish I could of got it for that price
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 күн бұрын
Everything was less back then 😂 🙈. I need to update these videos
@jimgardner6473
@jimgardner6473 2 жыл бұрын
If you had to buy just 1 of these say for a acre an a half with some hills which would be your choice? Also you mentioned your address but what city and state
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Paris Tx I would have to go serviceable transmissions. I would prolly lean on the zt elite or a maverick because of the ride. I would lean on the Liberty if I was worried about warranty, but I would have to add the Hoover baffles. In your case I would highly recommend the hustler xd or xdx because of the stance and the tires it will be waaaaay better than all on the hills you have. I would do the xdx if you can find one
@juandoe7802
@juandoe7802 Жыл бұрын
I'm torn on what to buy, the Bob Cat ZT2000 or the Hustler Raptor XD?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen the bobcat so I can’t comment there. The xd is a nice machine for what you get and the 5 year engine and mower warranty for $300 extra right now is an amazing warranty.
@rickwatson1000
@rickwatson1000 2 жыл бұрын
I have 4.5 acres what mower do you recommend ? Great good
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Anything commercial will work. I would Definately make sure you get better transmissions than 3200s. 4400s, Parker hte12s etc…. 3400s would be ok too but that would be the lowest I would look at.
@morejelloplease
@morejelloplease 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned the suspension seat with a dial can be added to any Scag, can you make a video or try and fit one to a LibertyZ and tell me how much trouble there is? I have the suspension seat from trac seats, the same one found on the Patriot and it does not sit well with the Liberty Z. I made a video and I've had nothing but problems, not to mention I had to bypass the safety switch which I don't feel right about. I'm on my last leg with Scag, you probably know me as the guy that bought three of them and had nothing but problems and my local dealers ghosting me, from engine issues, quality control issues, etc and I'm fit to be tied with Scag. Now I have a bad back and I need a good suspension seat, the one with a dial on the front seems to be the best, if you can make one fit on a liberty Z, I'll buy the seat from you.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
So the cool think you can make any seat fit any of them. You can just directly wire in the safety switch if the wire plug is different. We have had to bend the handles, add a longer extension to them, or upgrade the handles too the bigger mower ones to make them work, but it can be done. Sometimes we have to drill extra couple of holes in the seat pan is the worst we have had to do
@morejelloplease
@morejelloplease 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers I can't find who sells the seat safety switch connector, i wanted to build my own extension because no one sells them. the wire on the liberty Z is too short to reconnect to the safety switch when you add the suspension seat found on the liberty. IMO that suspension seat is junk, so many issues. the seat with the dial like on the turf tiger is where it's at. If i could add one to the liberty Z without being raised 4-6 inches higher i'd do it. the trac seat co. wants you to add washers, drill holes, etc and it turned out to be a nightmare. the safety switch on the liberty Z is a 4 wire NO/NC switch and has shorting pins so rewiring it takes a bit of time and understanding of how their safety switch works. the switch is made by delta but the actual male and female connectors are unavailable, and from what i see on scags' schematic they aren't available for purchase. in a nut shell i'm trying to add a nice seat to my liberty Z since i have a bad back and retain the safety switch without breaking the bank :)
@ARegularGuy24
@ARegularGuy24 2 жыл бұрын
What would be a good mower for 3 acres? Do I need a commercial mower?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Watch my video on entry level commercial machines. Any of those mowers will be perfect. 4 times longer lasting motor and transmissions. If you can’t swing the extra $1000 my next video will be on the estate mowers 3100 transmissions you would be pushing the boundaries of those mowers
@randysmith7837
@randysmith7837 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir 60" Deck.👍
@cjschoolcraft2038
@cjschoolcraft2038 Жыл бұрын
I have 3 acres and I can get it cut with my bad boy rambler 42 inch in no time at all
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 2 жыл бұрын
Which one is the best residential for a fatty that will absolutely need to step on the deck? It's hard for me to tell which could adjust the arms/seat to get around my fairly tall and really fat frame.... 1.5 acres, some uneven ground...
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Bad boy has heaviest deck by far. I recommend an assist bar, and definately adjustable handles.
@ShawnGilbert1967
@ShawnGilbert1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers thank you I seen that assist bar and it looked a god send...knees are gone can't pivot OFF the old YT3000 anymore.... Thanks
@850chris3
@850chris3 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 3/4 acre lot would the dash or raptor be better suited for that size lawn? Also how long do the non serviceable trans last before needing to be replaced? Been looking for a bit and have narrowed it down between hustler and gravely/Ariens
@EverydayCarLife
@EverydayCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a raptor xd for my lawn as well and i am on half an acre. Absolutely love it, probably overkill but was worth it lol, i would definitley say the Raptor since it is a bit beefier and hopefully will last longer
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Raptor is a lot better mower. It all depends on how long they are used at a time. They have around a 600 to 800 hour expected lifespan.
@850chris3
@850chris3 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers I end up buying a liberty z was a little more then I wanted to spend but felt and looked a lot better then the other options
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@850chris3 oh wow!! Yes much better option! Love the serviceable transmissions, the cut, and the 5 year warranty may come in handy :)
@850chris3
@850chris3 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers the serviceable transmission was a big selling point for me. And read nothing but good things on them and the 5 year warranty speaks volume for how they feel about there product.
@braydenlowe1745
@braydenlowe1745 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Kevin would you be willing to make a video of the comrade 650?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I have 5 left. Really good unit
@braydenlowe2024
@braydenlowe2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers okay awesome thank you very much Kevin!
@michaeldavis4338
@michaeldavis4338 2 жыл бұрын
Where would the ZT Elite bad boy fall in line?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Next class. I did a video on that class as well :)
@michaeldavis4338
@michaeldavis4338 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome I’ll check it out!
@grahamkuehner6697
@grahamkuehner6697 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Just curious as to why no mention of Ariens or Gravely?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
I quit carrying them a few years back. Not bad mowers at all, they just took up a lot of floor space and didn’t sell near as many as the bad boy grasshopper or hustlers. I really had to talk people into them. The proturn is a really good price point.
@grahamkuehner6697
@grahamkuehner6697 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honest feedback! Rambler or Raptor X for better cut quality, ease of maintenance/less breakdowns and in general best overall?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
@@grahamkuehner6697 bad boy waaay better metal, deck, frame, front forks, spindles, deck lift… hustler has 1 year longer warranty, upgraded tires, wider lower stance, kawasaki engine, no brake to have to lift up and down, and a slightly better cut quality. I would say about the same reliability wise
@ajbrown2013
@ajbrown2013 2 жыл бұрын
What’s cash price then if they add it into the price???
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
For the companies that add it in their cash price is with it figured in. So when you pay cash your paying around 5% for someone else to have financing. That’s why bad boy and Spartan take off the whole fee and don’t pay for any upfront. It’s a very deceptive practice to them to not be transparent. That’s why it’s around 9% more to finance 0% instead of 4% with the other guys.
@joeherbest8804
@joeherbest8804 2 жыл бұрын
Can you get a double bagger system for the mz rambler?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@joeherbest8804
@joeherbest8804 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers okay. Thank you! Trying to start a business and don't have a huge amount of money. These are nice, I've been looking at the toro timecutter too, and hustler but the bad boy residential grade has commercial grade parts. Really can't choose haha.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeherbest8804 bad boy is hard to over look with the hd spindles, Deck, frame, and the dial deck lift makes it easy to use.
@joeherbest8804
@joeherbest8804 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers my local tractor supply has the bad boy mz rambler 42" cut for $3300 and some change and I've heard some good and bad about the cut quality some have said it leaves a strip of grass? Just wondering if this is true? And another question when bought new it should come with factor warrenty I'd hope, I'm just concerned because the transmissions are sealed assuming that you can't check or change the fluid.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeherbest8804 cut on the 42 is Amazing. I would highly recommend buying from a dealer though even if they are 100 miles away. Most dealers are $3200 so you should get some gas money driving. Warranty is only as good as the dealer and tsc doesn’t have mechanics or service at all
@Honda1k
@Honda1k 2 жыл бұрын
Are there's comparable to a gravely zthd
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Xdx hustler, zt elite, Scag Liberty/freedom z are all pretty same specs as zt hd yes
@bigclydesdale6356
@bigclydesdale6356 Жыл бұрын
Do you deliver to Illinois
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
Yes. The only issue is we hand deliver. If you check with a site like tractor house and click on one of my listings they may offer a more reasonable option. We get between $3 and $3.50 a loaded mile depending on distance/load/etc. I’m located in Paris, Tx. Several guys have got 3 or 4 to get one with them and shared the shipping expense and it was very worth it that way for all of us.
@mr.astrophysics9115
@mr.astrophysics9115 2 жыл бұрын
I would take a Kohler engine over kawasaki engines all day long..3 year unlimited hours warranty the Kohler engine comes with
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure all the engines come with that now. But yes kohler has been good for us. They all have their lemons of course. We had some of each brand 🙈
@a1locc25
@a1locc25 Жыл бұрын
I’m a small engine repairman. Have been for 30 yrs. Koehler is absolutely junk. Sorry folks you may have your preference but Koehler is no were close to quality
@hamtalker2007
@hamtalker2007 11 ай бұрын
It's all about finance save your money and pay cash for it and you won't have a payment and even better yet get on market place and find a used one with low hours and so over a thousand on it let someone else pay the taxes
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 11 ай бұрын
Only thing to watch out for. $1000 sometimes isn’t worth it as you lose the warranty. Used ones need to be a better gap than that.
@henrysmith8012
@henrysmith8012 2 жыл бұрын
Grasshopper, Scag ok. The rest are junk, good luck getting parts.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Actually most here prefer bad boy because my parts room is crazy stocked for them. Been a dealer for 15 years for them. On the Scag I hardly carry anything because they can have me parts next day from my distributor, but they are running low right now like everyone else :(. I have a lot of grasshopper parts too because they have dominated here for pretty much 30 years. Hustler started all of this so they made the first ZTR mower. If it wasn’t for them you wouldn’t have a Scag or grasshopper mower 😜
@henrysmith8012
@henrysmith8012 Жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers hustler had nothing to do with Grasshopper. 61 inch dsl. Grasshopper is a tank. As a small engine fleet mechanic for 8 years I watched young knuckleheads put a fleet of 14 through hell daily. Mudd rain, curbs, rocks, baseballs they hit everything or cut over it. Run all day in 100 degree heat. It's the only zero turn to buy.
@joelleon4088
@joelleon4088 4 ай бұрын
Where you located?
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 4 ай бұрын
623 n main Paris, tx
@psav1520
@psav1520 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 3 hustler ZTRs in recent years. They get worse with every new model. Had the hydro-drive brackets replaced, cracked fenders, severe vibration noise etc etc, etc. I have found that Hustler will work with you until they decide not to. My case was escalated to Nick (Sr. product representative). After failed attempts at a repair, Nick would not return any phone calls. The case was then escalated to the next level (Ken Coker). Ken provides nothing more than lip service. He did call me once. When I provided video proof of the complaint, he failed to ever contact me again. The mower is still under warranty, the dealer will not do anything more and tells me that Hustler will not do anything more. I would never touch another Hustler mower, ever. Hustler will not honor the warranty if it is not a very simple problem. Either they don't know, or don't care about fixing a customer's mower.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
We did have a weak trans bracket they have been upgraded and do an upgrade kit, cold weather would get the fenders sometimes. Vibration could be a bent crank, clutch issue, pulley, bearing, shaft bent on the spindle, a bad spot in a belt, a stretched idler spring, etc. it could be a lot of things and hard to find. I recommend taking it to an experienced shop to find the vibratation issue
@psav1520
@psav1520 Жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers Thanks Kevin. Unfortunately, machine is still under warranty, the dealer says they can not do anything without Hustler's approval, and that Hustler has told the dealer that they (Hustler) is done with this machine. It has 60 hours of easy homeowner use. It could be a number of things as you mentioned, however; without knowledgeable techs or advice from the factory, I'm kind of stuck. BTW this is a Raptor SD.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
@@psav1520 I’ve had factory’s completely deny all warranty claims from customers, but most of them were due to an ugly exchange with someone at the factory. I know bad boy has done it many times if one of the girls get cussed at or someone gets angry on the phone. I have a big customer that still buys mowers but knows he has no warranty whatsoever from the factory level of any machine he purchases. We have several customers that when we submit warranty they are automatically declined due to an ugly phone call, or someone mentioning a law suit or getting a lawyer usually does it. So far this has been the only reason. I’ve never had the plant just say they were done with a mower unless it’s not at a dealership getting serviced. They don’t like dealing with the public they usually go through a dealer.
@psav1520
@psav1520 Жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers There have been no ugly conversations with Hustler. Thank you for your responses. Will get rid of this (probably) and use Exmark or Scag. I do wish that you were in my area. Have a wonderful season.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
@@psav1520 yes I have a feeling if you will take it to a reputable dealer it will get taken care of. That dealer could’ve got nasty with hustler or something idk.
@TheDWZemke
@TheDWZemke Жыл бұрын
In the boating world they have pumps to pull out the transmission oil. Therefore this transmission are serviceable that take more effort! Shame on you manufacturing companies
@johnmulder4121
@johnmulder4121 Жыл бұрын
Y no Grasshopper????
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
They start in the 7k class. I put them in the video with the bad boy maverick Scag patriot and the hustler Fastrak :). Grasshopper doesn’t make a homeowner class machine they are all commercial
@johnmulder4121
@johnmulder4121 Жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers I understand, still love my front mount, with all the different attachments!!
@bryceking3603
@bryceking3603 11 ай бұрын
They want 8.9k for the bad boy magnum in my area so I went with the hustler raptor for 3.5k
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 11 ай бұрын
Man that can’t be right. That’s like a commercial maverick hd price.
@bryceking3603
@bryceking3603 11 ай бұрын
@Kevin Kelley nope that's what they want for just the magnum because that's the exact same thing I was thinking but nope that's what they had on the price tags on them. The only thing that I can think of is someone accidentally got the tags and names mixed up.
@Bwh-rm3py
@Bwh-rm3py 2 ай бұрын
Seems like they are almost 1000$ more in 2024.
@javaman8895
@javaman8895 12 күн бұрын
Bidenomics! Strongest economy ever!
@freddiemanning5330
@freddiemanning5330 Жыл бұрын
Wish I had never bought a POS boy
@kgmowers
@kgmowers Жыл бұрын
What’s going on? Anything we could help you out on?
@gxd3066
@gxd3066 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you located
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
623 n main Paris, tx
@bradg5649
@bradg5649 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know how difficult it is to get financing for a zero turn? We recently purchased a house so my credit took a dip.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
All the best rates are for 680 and up score with equifax. Secondary banks are 550 and up and we even offer a no credit rent to own option so we don’t have to turn away anyone. My no credit bank only works for Kansas Oklahoma and Texas residents right now though.
@bradg5649
@bradg5649 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers thank you for the info!
@bradg5649
@bradg5649 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgmowers I just realized y’all are about 45 minutes north of me and I’ve been looking for a dealer. Lol wow I’ll be out visiting you guys soon!
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradg5649 come on 🔥🔥
@brandonmurphy4657
@brandonmurphy4657 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad boy fan at all.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they looked cool in 2007 with the spoiler. Bought a lightning. Fell in love with the ride and the tough build. It fell off my trailer, bad boy heard about it on lawn site, and fixed my mower for me. Became a dealer out of my house in Swink, ok a town with 36 homes. Sold more mowers that year than any dealer they have ever had the first year, and 5 years later became the largest volume dealer in the world for them. I turned into a fan :)
@davidjudd221
@davidjudd221 2 жыл бұрын
You don't grow a business in that manner unless you're taking of the customer. Good for you.
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidjudd221 I had some divine intervention of course. It was all Gods plan I just didn’t see it then.
@jamessturcke6532
@jamessturcke6532 2 жыл бұрын
Husqvarna blows them all away by far.... My 2 cents...
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
The only ones we have seen are the ones from home depot and Sears. Got one on trade today $700 48” ZTR with 236 hours. That’s all we’ve seen.
@jamesmorphew29
@jamesmorphew29 2 жыл бұрын
Bad boy is a sorry lawnmower I no I have one nothing but problems
@kgmowers
@kgmowers 2 жыл бұрын
Do you not have a dealer to fix it? All equipment messes up, key is a good dealer that cares, has awesome mechanics, and a big parts room ready for the breakdowns.
@Burritosarebetterthantacos
@Burritosarebetterthantacos 2 жыл бұрын
My fire dept had them and tons of issues…now we have exmark
@SzymczykProductions
@SzymczykProductions Жыл бұрын
Do NOT BUY from a stealer!!!! (Dealer cough) they are liars and will rip you off. Buy from big box stores they honor all warranty issues and are always cheaper!!! You're welcome in advanced for the saved headaches.
@fredbecker607
@fredbecker607 Жыл бұрын
The big difference is, will box store work on it ?
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