Wow, thank you! Glad you're finding the videos helpful and really appreciate the support. Exciting that the truck finally has a build date, hopefully you see it soon!

@@CarsWithSteve P.S...... don't speak slower Lol, you're just fine.

@@cwqrpportable Haha appreciate that! I think I've slowed it down like crazy compared to my first videos

You’re welcome! I do find it odd that most manufacturers don’t at least give a rough estimate of payload so glad this video helped you out

Thanks so much Dave! You're going to be looking at an order for a 2023 but the video is still pretty accurate for what you can expect with a few color changes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJindrWpr7-onGQ.html

glad it helped!

It did, underrated channel, but thats the story of youtube.

@@PaperCut2UGaming very true. Just staying consistent and hoping things go for a big upswing in the next year or two 😂

It's always tricky calculating it, hopefully the video helped!

Yes it will, I do mention that anything added in will affect payload

Thanks Gerard! I'm getting into the habit of adding that info in my truck review videos - especially with how far off the actual vs max payload is with the official guides. What is your full build? I should be able to give you a more accurate number with the options you added into yours

@@CarsWithSteve That would be awesome Steve, my build includes 4x4 super crew 157, 502A package, 3.5 eco boost, extended running boards, moonroof, 2 kw on board, max tow, power tow mirrors, fx4 , tailgate step and spray in bed liner. Lariat.

@@gdjmtravelschannel The base max payload in that truck is 2,155 lbs.. There are quite a few options that will take weight away based on the build you've gone for. You should be in the 1,600ish ballpark If you're pulling a trailer toss in all your equipment in that instead of storing it in the bed or inside of the truck!

@@CarsWithSteve thanks Steve, much appreciated, I’m hoping for north of 1700 but if it could get me to high 1600’s, I can live with that. It’ll be a bit of a fine line. I’ll be in better shape if a weight distribution hitch actually distributes some of weight back to the trailer. TBD…

@@gdjmtravelschannel The weight distribution hitches are great! I'd be curious what the payload is, so if you remember drop by the channel when you get yours!

The payload discrepancy is definitely there - it would be great if there were at least approximate payload numbers on the build and price as you go! You're right about the 250... once you start loading in every possible feature it may not be far off Have you run into any issues with your 5.0L?

Thanks Ken! Hopefully your build works for what you need though - and if it's a factory order you may be able to make changes on the build if it hasn't entered production

@@CarsWithSteve Steve, does the max trailer tow package on the Lariat affect payload capacity?

@@cwqrpportable It would take a few lbs off of the max payload because of the heavier rear bumper

@@CarsWithSteve Oh, never thought of that. I didn't end up ordering the max trailer tow package, at the advice of my salesperson. I think for a 6000 lb GVWR RV, it wasn't really necessary and in this case would reduce my payload capacity too! Lol Can't win with towing vs payload capacity.

@@cwqrpportable With only 6,000lbs that was probably a good idea so you don't lose more payload. Right? It's a game haha

Thanks Todd, appreciate that! Had someone on a video last year comment that their Lariat SuperCrew 4x4 with the 7.2 was close to 1,350 lbs max payload. Depending on the rest of the build you'd probably be close to that

If you can get away with it why not? Hopefully you see the truck sooner than later!

Apparently towing is awful in the battery. 1 hour drained it from 100% to 10% on one trial.

Heard about that trick, good to know that it works! Does your truck have the reverse sensing system? I read some owners with it saying this trick disables it

You’d think there would be one available 🤔 There isn’t.

@@CarsWithSteve I guess they just want you to see the numbers that they want you to see....lol. I am curious how you came up with the numbers to figure out the "Real" Payload capacity. For example, the Powerboost coming down from 1830 to 1690. Or any of the other real world scenarios. The only other question i have is if a 6.5 ft box has any negative affect on the payload capacity?

@@miltwiese3335 It's odd that those numbers aren't published. For the real world numbers those are based on actual trucks. Found some 2022 F150s, grabbed the full build and then took a pic of the door payload sticker. The 6.5' box would affect the payload by a bit but we're talking 50ish lbs not hundreds

Also if you have any dealership/salesperson recommendations for the Belfair/Gig Harbor/Tacoma area of Washington State!

Hey Scott, glad you've found the videos helpful! Haha I've never understood why they don't at least give an approximate payload. Exciting about the new truck. So the best way to get max payload is to get the Heavy Duty Payload Package but that will limit you to the 301a XLT. Which means you'll lose out on the good parts of the XLT 302a High Package. The 5.0L V8 SuperCrew 4x4 will have 2,235 lbs max payload (probably closer to 1,800 lbs real world) and the SuperCab will give you an extra 100 lbs. Look at the tongue weight and total weight of some trailers that you're interested in. That's going to dictate whether an F150 will work or if you need to look at a SuperDuty instead If it's simple overlanding and not too aggressive you wouldn't need the FX4 package. And if you're worried about underside protection, you can always add on skid plates

@@moopuna Could check out Lakewood Ford or Sunset Ford (Summer, WA)!

Thanks Steven! The Platinum does come with the Tow Technology Package and you'd get the 360 camera as well. If you "upgrade" to the TPP you'd lose the 360 camera that would come standard in the Platinum and have to pay that extra cash to do it Honestly, I think that's just an oversight on Ford's part. They switched over to this new configurator for the 2022 model and I think it's an option that probably shouldn't be in there

Hey Austin! It's weird that the dealer couldn't answer the differences in towing between regular and max towing. Here are the numbers for your configuration: With standard tow package: 11,000 lbs With max tow package: 12,400 lbs Adding the running boards wouldn't have an effect on max towing but it will affect the payload by a few lbs. Hope this helps!

The heavy duty payload pack is only available in the XL trim level now and it's pretty limited as to what other options you can add on with it. On the build and price select style "SuperCab" and Box "8'" and then click on XL and that'll let you configure. You're only looking at manual seats in the XL but you could add on vinyl seats with a console setup along with Ford Co-Pilot360™ 2.0 to at least give you some decent features Agree with you 100% about payload. I still don't know why there isn't an actual payload calculator so that you have at least a rough idea of what to expect your truck payload to be. Even an approximate would be ok

Thanks! Few things.. I'm going to assume you're thinking the SuperCrew (4 full door). With 4x2 and the 5.5' box the max payload is 2,090 lbs and 6.5' box is 2,120. With the High Pack and base options you're probably going to be somewhere around 1,750 lbs max payload on the yellow door sticker

@@CarsWithSteve Thanks for your quick reply and the numbers. How do you have access to these, and have you ever gotten a reply from Ford as to why they don't offer these numbers as we build our trucks? Just curious.

@@Skitchmurray anytime! I've shot enough of these videos and seen enough of the stickers now to have a general idea what to expect. Never heard back from Ford as to why that feature isn't available online!

Hey! Big difference with the Tow Package is that you get everything with the Class IV Hitch and Brake Controller, plus Pro Trailer Backup Assist and Tailgate LED The Pro Backup Assist is the one where you rotate a dial that counter steers for you and Tailgate LED if you're loading up at night. If you want to save a few bucks you could just go for the Hitch and Brake Controller!

@@CarsWithSteve Problem is that on the XL's that I've looked at with the "Tow Package" the tailight LED and backup assist knob in the cab are not included for the $1325. As far as I can see you get the same with just the Class V hitch and the Trailer Brake controller.

Ah yeah, XL doesn't have a few of the added options in that trim. I think you just gave XL purchasers a way to save a few hundred by avoiding the Tow Package with factory orders

@@CarsWithSteve thanks I did a good! But as usual it’s all about me and one sitting on the lot. I’ll ask a dealer to discount it off at the very end after I’ve ringed everything else out of him. (And him out of me)

XL trims don't have a big margin but if the dealer wants it gone bad enough they're usually willing to discount a bit. Good luck with the new truck!

Nope.. Heavy Duty Payload isn't available on the 2023 Lariat. You'd have to go XL.. order guides aren't showing the XLT as having it though

Thanks Anthony. Assuming 4x4 and based on your build the on paper max is 2,125 lbs. With the options you've gone for I'd say you're probably looking around 1,650 lbs that'll be on your payload sticker

@@CarsWithSteve Thank you so much! Towing should be around 10,300lbs?

@@anthonycase6526 If you didn't go for the max tow package then yes, 10,300 lbs would be your max towing capacity!

@@CarsWithSteve Thank you!

@@anthonycase6526 any time!

If you don't have the max towing package and yours is the SuperCrew, here are the numbers for the 5.5' box: 3.31 axle: 9.400 lbs 3.73 axle: 10,400 lbs As long as you don't have excessive payload in the bed or interior of the truck you should be fine towing 7,500 lbs. Make sure you look at a weight distribution hitch if that's not already on your radar

@@CarsWithSteve I do have max towing package as well

@@mexikanox1118 you're about 13,000 lbs max towing capacity.. shouldn't have any issues!

Max payload can't be ordered in anything higher than the 301a XLT but the max tow package is open to just about every configuration

Hey Josip! The GVWR is the max weight that a vehicle is designed to carry - that includes things like fuel, passengers, cargo etc. Think of it like.. truck weight, plus its maximum allowable payload! The sticker you'd really want to pay attention to is the yellow payload sticker along the well of the driver's door. It'll have a max payload rating based on your configuration!

Try playback at 0.75x - it seems to be the sweet spot

Thanks Kyle! You should listen to the one I did on the 2021 models.. this is me at 0.75x speed compared to that

Good question! Ton of other questions you need to ask yourself.. do you need 2 seats? 5? What bed size do you need? If you're stuck on the 2.7L EcooBoost with the 3.73 axle there are a few payload numbers available: SuperCrew 4x4 5.5' box - 1,965 lbs with the V6 Payload Package SuperCab 4x4 6.5' box - 2,165 lbs with the V6 payload package The numbers are based on having a stripped down truck so you also need to figure out what features are important to you. Your best bet to get the 1,800 lbs payload is to bump yourself up to the 3.5L EcoBoost SuperCrew 6.5' box with the heavy duty payload package. If you go for the XLT 301a you can still add in a few other options that will keep you above your needed 1,800 lbs payload. That setup would give you 13,800 lbs towing capacity

@@CarsWithSteve thank you Steve for responding. Not really trying to get the 3.5 since I heard the 2.7 is more reliable. What are your thoughts on the 3.5?

@@cabmex anytime! I don't hear many people complaining about the reliability of the 3.5L EcoBoost much. I'd probably choose that over the 5.0L - especially with your payload need Are you towing much as well or is it just 1,800lbs of material that's going to sit in the bed?

@@CarsWithSteve well the truck I have has a payload of 1712 pounds, so I would like something similar. I would like a little more payload because I would be carrying a water tank in the bed of the truck. I will be towing a cattle trailer thats rated at 3100 lbs empty and with cattle approximately under 7,000 lbs. For the most part I would be towing probably max 8500 lbs. This wouldn't be on a daily basis. Probably once a week while traveling 180 miles one way.

@@cabmex ok few more questions.. what's the max weight of the water tank when full and all other cargo you'd have in the bed and inside the truck?

Hey Jim, based on the numbers you're right about the GCWR it's 18,400 lbs with a max towing capacity of 12,300 lbs with that configuration. There are a few things to consider, the max tongue weight should be 10% of the total trailer weight and your max payload is 1,420 lbs. You're getting really close to your max payload. Assuming nothing else in the trailer so base weight of 8,450 lbs you'd be left with 575 lbs payload after you subtract tongue weight. If it's only one person in the truck you'd be tight but good to go. Throw in multiple people with gear and you should be looking at an F250 instead With that weight you should be looking at a weight distribution hitch as well if that wasn't on your radar yet. Cheers!

@@CarsWithSteve Thanks so much! I appreciate you answer. And yes we did get Distribution Hitch. Thanks AGAIN!!

@@jimstodolist3628 You're welcome, enjoy your travels!

Hey Jim I have found this Ford chart very helpful; the numbers for the 2021 are the similar. www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/resources/general/pdf/guides/2022_Ford_F-150_Towing_Info_r4_Mar30.pdf

The 5.0L got the name from the first 4 valve v8 that was built for a race car in the 1960s. The car was nicknamed the Coyote and the name stuck!

@@CarsWithSteve thank you for your response.

@@rarsenio1 anytime!

The Ford tow guide gives you the max capacity but the point of the video is to stress how much towing and payload fluctuates based on your trucks build

I don't go over every example for max towing, just gave the 5.0L SuperCrew as an example. Towing numbers are shown though

Haven't heard that issue happening on many PowerBoost F150s. It's unfortunate that yours is one that's run into problems but hopefully the dealer or Ford Canada/USA comes through for you sooner than later

Erm.. yeah your dealer is off by a few lbs 😅 You’d be limited to 7,000 lbs for “bumper towing” But using a weight distribution hitch you can go close to max.. just make sure that you’re taking payload into account as well