as a KIA Stinger 4 banger owner, I have to admit. You nailed it. It is a touring car that's great for long commutes. It is not a drifting hooning machine despite what Kia would like everyone to believe. It works for me as I do 60 miles round trip on my work commute, usually in some sort of freeway traffic.

You’re going to legitimately make these brands change their products with how real your videos are. It’s clear you don’t give a shit if you ever get another Kia / Hyundai product to review as long as you say what needs to be said. Much respect

After being a mini-van dad for a decade I wanted a fun to drive car that didn't beat me up with a stiff suspension and a loud exhaust. I don't need to do donuts or do quarter miles with the youngsters. I initially wanted and could afford a used a5 or 3/4 series. But with prices the way they are, I got this new for about the same price as a 3 year old german car. It's quick enough to make me nervous and good looking enough to turn heads. The AWD is decent in the snow. The stop and go cruise is almost self driving. The stereo is above average. It fits all my fly fishing equipment and then more and I can drive 4 people of moderate size AND get decent milage. It ain't perfect, but neither am I. But it puts a smile on my face every day....and I'm not up to my neck in crazy payments.

This is what I subscribe to the Goose for: honest reviews that don’t pander to the manufacturer’s feelings/ego.

Tbh I think Mark made this to bring stinger prices down so he and his wifes bf can buy one and do open diff donuts on empty parking lots

Have a 4 cylinder Stinger - drive it 96 miles highway to and from work every day... I love it.

I own a 2019 GTS so my experience is limited to the 3.3TT. That being said, I understand Mark's perspective as a guy who wants a car to decide what it is and execute that well. However, many of the reasons why he hates this car is why I love it. I can only afford and have room for (1) vehicle, so the car I own has to be able to do everything. The Stinger looks great, is well appointed for the price, and has a dual personality. I drive a ton for work and get almost 30mpg in ECO mode on the highway. Then I can engage sport mode to send more power to the rear wheels and have fun on back roads when I want to. All while having the massive rear cargo room for big work samples. When these came out in 2018 I knew it would be my next car because it checked every box I had.

The fact that so many people mis-classify this car is baffling to me. The 2.5 is a GT car 100% and nothing more. Its a quiet comfortable cruising machine that happens to be quick. Also very good on gas. I was thinking of getting an Audi A5 and a 3 series. This offers more power, more space/ practicality and better looks, for LESS money. Its not meant for enthusiasts and idk why this is difficult to understand for y'all. If you want to crash into a wall, get the 3.3 GT2, its that simple lol.

Nailed it in the final thoughts. I purchased the AWD 4-banger and have been living with it for the last month and it is an incredible car to daily. I am 6’6 and almost 300lbs and am so comfortable on my long commute (150mi or so round trip). My fuel economy numbers have been better that the EPA estimates on the RWD model and the Harman Kardon sound system does not disappoint. Daily, the GT-Line Stinger has been plush inside, and confidence inspiring under the hood. It has plenty of power to safely separate yourself from inattentive drivers on the highway, and tons of safety systems and tech to assist in your drive and give you peace of mind carrying your family. On the weekends, it’s a great GT, but not a sports car. Even with the AWD, it is still lighter than the 6 cylinders that I test drove and the pull from the front wheels makes it great in the corners. We have spent our last couple of weekends zipping down curvy country roads and for this, the paddle shifters and the 8-speed are plenty responsive and the rev-matching will keep you pushed into your seat. Even with my large self, we comfortably fit 4 adults, and two families’ worth of groceries under the hatch. We loaded camp chairs and coolers and my rugby bag for a match last weekend. Let’s just say I’m not missing my SUV one bit.

I just bought my 2022 kia Stinger with the 3.3 v6 and I cant be happier

I love savagegeese, my favourite car reviewer. But as an owner of V6 Stinger I think the 2 Stinger reviews are wrong. If you approach the Stinger as a sports car then you'll be disappointed. It won't handle like a Porsche or have the ride quality of an S class Mercedes. It is an affordable niche vehicle offering performance, comfort, features, space, better than average cargo capacity and stunning looks. All for a price that offers value for money that is off the charts and the cherry on top is Kia reliability and long warranty. This entire package is absolutely unique in the motoring world. There is no other car for the price that offers so much.

I took a gamble and purchased the A 2018 GT AWD back when it came out. I would say that while I really liked the car (its very fun in the AWD 3.3TT version and fixes many of the cons of the turbo 4 version). The interior has held up well over 3 years, that hatch has been very functional, and the ride quality is good for DD. But *** god forbid you to have to take it in for warranty work or recalls (which the car has for an important few things wire harness, engine fire hazards, fuel gauge issues etc) it has been unforgivably terrible dealing with dealerships and KIA customer service on the car. Not just one bad apple dealership but 5 different ones in 3 different states. It has been more bad experiences than good ones across the board when you really need them to be on their A game. They are horrible to work with and really detract from ownership of this car and I don't say that lightly. You need to go in eyes wide open as a requirement for ownership of a car like this with the KIA brand currently.

If you expected performance from the gt-line, then you should’ve had some reservations beforehand imo. Even with Kia’s branding of it, this is after all the base version for 2022 whereas the regular gt versions with the tt v6 is where the car truly shines imo.

Is the issue Mark has with the Stinger more related to inaccurate marketing writing checks the product can't cash or that the product isn't good enough? I know it's both, but it comes across more as unrealistic expectations set by marketing people than the product underperforming.

I have the AWD GT-Line; I bought it after leasing a GT1 for a year. The GT1 was fun, but it was bad on gas, and had super high insurance rates for me (I"m early 40's male with a perfect driving record). I had all that power but never was able to fully use it. I stepped down to the GT-Line because I love the looks, and the 300hp was plenty enough for me. It's a stylish car that drives very well as long as you aren't trying to do some performance stuff. I think that's the intent of it-not everyone prioritizes super car driving dynamics. Sometimes you want something that looks equally as rad and still drives well. For people like me, the GT-Line is perfect.

the GT2 is a totally different car in so many ways. if you were thinking of those dont let a lot of this get you down

Most honest car reviews you can get! Love this channel!

What I like about your reviews is the honesty, and focus on what matters. This is not a car commercial channel like some other reviewers.

1 minute in and I can already smell the torches and pitchforks

Honestly, I kiiiiinda agree to some extent. I've test driven a ton of Stingers in the last 3-4 years and I think there's a reason why I could never pull the trigger each time, despite the car seemingly checking all of the boxes. This is a great vehicle that ~looks~ sporty, track-ready, and has excellent driving dynamics---but it really isn't that. It's moreso a comfortable, nicely appointed, and aggressive looking midsize vehicle that has a lot of character, value, and style but isn't quite what the enthusiasts looking for and not the type of "driver's car" are necessarily going to be happy with, despite the marketing.

I got the 2018 red-on-red GT1 and love it! To this day, people give the car compliments on looks. It is so fun to drive, but the tank is small and gas mileage is not good. I've dealt with three Kia dealerships over the time I've owned it and in retrospect, I would have never gotten the car if I had known what low rent these dealerships are. Consistently two or more hours for an oil change, disrespectful service managers, bus station waiting rooms. Most recently one of these Kia dealers wanted me to trade it in for another Stinger but was adding $7000 to MSRP because of "demand." LOL! Nope. Just ordered the Arteon SEL Premium R line, which may take 6 months to get here but I'm done with Kia.

Thanks Mark for the honest review.

Best car reviewer out there for driving dynamics! Love the honesty!!

I love my Stinger V6. I had it for 2 years and 4 months now and it is a joy to drive every day. It really goes up to 270 km/h. I do not care about disabling any controls and making the Stinger into a sports performance car with full manual control.

I love your reviews and how much work you put into them, but this one was the first one where I sort of disagreed with you. I agree, the dynamics aren’t as fine-tuned as they are with the German competitors, but I still think this car brings tremendous value to the table. Compared to that Sonata N-line which is an overpowered FWD barge, this has chassis balance and a platform that’s borrowed from more expensive cars. It’s basically a 5 series sized vehicle for the price of a base 3 series. If you’re not driving at the limit, the RWD chassis brings a level of balance that’s distinctly missing in the FWD family cars that are at this price or slightly below. For someone living in Michigan, as long as this thing rotates in the snow where a FWD car would plow forward is really what matters to me. I haven’t driven a base Stinger, but I drove a GT2 a few years ago, and I really enjoyed it. If you want an LSD, it’s available on the TT V6 model. I applaud Hyundai/Kia for offering a RWD alternative that’s practical and relatively affordable. Also, the styling is really nice on this car. It’s unique at this price point and it still turns heads after being on the market for a few years. Either way, I appreciate your take and still think this was a great video.

I had one of these for a short time, a short time because the dealer tried to steal my $30k down payment. The car is fine for a discounted 340i (GT model), but the dealer experience was obviously absolutely horrendous. I own an X5 and Toyota right now and have almost all popular brands in the last 10 years, never seen such a bad dealer experience. Totally unprofessional in almost every way. As for the LSD, I had an AWD which became floaty above 80mph, RWD GT with an LSD is the only way to get this car. I test drove that and should have bought that instead AWD.

I WAS a Kia fanboy and was looking at one. My 13 optima sxl is getting long in the tooth.... Well that was until my wife's new Sorrento bricks and was in the shop for a month. No loaner had to rent a car, they " couldn't recreate the problem". Even though I brought it to them when it did it, so we're out 500 for the rental. A few days later after a couple hundred miles BAM it effin bricks🤦🤦🤦. KIA told us to pound sand, probably gonna have to take it to court. It's been an absolute nightmare, if they stood behind their products and didn't treat us like 💩 I'd probably have a stinger in my driveway. I have a video from the last time and pictures I'll post. Also those SG shirts are phenomenal!!! So comfortable!!!

Calling it as you see it Mark. Well done, one of the reasons I subscribe/watch. Thx. 👍

Yeah, I was concerned about that open differential, especially in a car with that much power. I think that's why most buyers will opt for the fully loaded GT2 with the 3.3L TTV6, which should be equipped with a mechanical differential and AWD. You'll be spending well over $50K (in Canada, at least), but it'll probably still be cheaper than a similarly equipped car from the Germans and will probably outperform the TLX Type S. The main takeaways is that the GT-Line is best for people who want a sportier-looking passenger car; they don't need all the performance. The GT Elite and GT2 is meant more for the enthusiasts and those seeking a good alternative to the typical German or Japanese sports cars. As always, great review!

love the honesty !

I love that I can watch your videos and get a true experience… No fluff just reality

One of the only honest car review channels on KZfaq. And also the BEST

I bought a 2021 GT1 RWD and Cantrell you the Stinger GT is a great value. I paid $44K out the door before the supply chain kinked up.

Completely agree. I’ve owned one for 2 months now and I absolutely love it. It’s a great family car and it’s still super fun to daily. I look forward to the commute. I didn’t buy it to do donuts or drive it like I stole it, but it still handles great and is plenty fast. It definitely hugs the road although the stock tires leave a little to be desired. I have the ceramic grey with red interior and I get complements on it all the time. Non car folks have no idea what it is. At this price point with the 10 year warranty, it’s a great value. I’d love an S5, but that’s over 20k more.

I always love your reviews. Cut to the chase good and bad and gives us technical discussion that the non-engineers can understand. I was considering this car versus 2022 VW Arteon SEL R Line. The Kia is cheaper and similar layout being four door hatchback but VW AWD front wheel drive based. Ultimately recently bought the VW and now has Golf R engine from last generation and the 7 speed DSG. More expensive and the touch controls for nearly everything is off putting. I appreciate Mark's critical evaluation of audio systems and I wish the mid level had Harmon-Kardon option. Hope in the future Mark and Jack get chance to revisit the newer Arteon with the more powerful engine and 7 speed DSG. Maybe not enough of a change to consider this. Thanks guys!

You guys make the most real, tell it like it is car reviews out there with the highest quality sound and that's where I'm gonna leave it.

"Disappointment" means that your expectations and the car did not match -- disappointment is not an absolute term. I have a 2022 GT2 3.3 liter and love it. It is not a sports car, it is a GT car... the differences being that a GT car has a smoother ride instead of more aggressive handling, and is less boisterous. As you stated, it's great for driving at 7/10, comfortably and quietly. And "GT sports car" is an oxymoron -- those are two different concepts. Yes, Kia marketing doesn't seem to articulate the difference. I had a first year Corvette C8 that I had to sell because the ride was too harsh for my surgically repaired spine. The Stinger gives all the performance I can possibly use around town, I'm not going to track the car, so it's much more usable than the C8. And maintenance should be much less expensive than the three BMWs I had. My dealer experience has been very good. I respect your reviews, but this one is clumsily mislabeled. Talk about what the car is, not what it isn't. That's the real disappointment.

you can get a v6 RWD w/ the LSD, the 4 banger is for the person that likes the car but cant afford the performance price admission. I have the AWD GT2 and have no complaints and get looks and compliments all the time.

Breath of fresh air just to have a solo video with you Mark!!!

Mark is my favorite reviewer. I own a Kia Stinger and I still love him. What they did to the 2.5 is inexcusable. But I cannot understand why anyone would buy a Camry or an Accord over this. I feel like a celebrity in a car that’s been out for five years. Nobody knows what it is ….everybody can’t believe how great it looks. The GT doesn’t have those hangups that Mark mentioned. It has a LSD… it sounds great…. I put it sideways constantly and carry it through drifts. There’s also the tuning side of things …it is so cheap to get this thing to a whole other level.

"Max disappointment" ..... clicks on the video immediately.... you guys are literally the best KZfaq car reviewers. You have blown past some of my other favorites!

Hyundai/Kia has made huge strides in dynamics, refinement and styling the last 5 years. The Veloster N, Elantra N and G70 are legitimate drivers cars with genuine enthusiast DNA. It’s a shame the Stinger got 90% right only to half-ass the final 10%.

Thank you mark , I was looking into these as a wrx substitute.

Had the 2020 GT-line for nearly a year now. Sun and sound pack and agree sounds great and the sunroof is big enough. Just got back from a road trip!! yay! put 1900Miles across NV to CO at 70MPH average and returned home at 32MPG. Lots of two lane passing at 90MPH and 75MPH cruising. Luckily a bit before the gas price hike so figured 229.00 spent on gas. Nice trip! thx

I wish they didn't sell the GT-Line just like I wish Hyundai hadn't sold the 2.0t Genesis Coupe. There is an LSD on the RWD GT2 and maybe the GT1 now. I think one should only buy this car in RWD V6 just like I felt about the Genesis Coupe.

Its time to add " Safety Impressions " .... which is more critical day by day .

Although Kia/Hyundai have obviously made strides as far as improving their products, I think putting lipstick on a pig is not enough. They need a few more years in the oven to be on the same level as the Japanese.

Been waiting for this video. Test drove the car two days ago (2.5l but with AWD). Honestly, in a vacuum the car was extremely impressive. You really can drive like an absolute idiot for $40k, and not be too worried about getting a felony. For someone who's coming from a base Civic, it's a considerable step up in power and performance, without being overwhelming or deadly. The problem with the car is when you start to consider what the other options are for the price point. However, if you really want automatic, those options at 40k are going to be fairly limited. You mentioned you'd buy this over the TLX Type S because you can get this RWD. I don't think most people are apples-to-apples cross shopping a $15k price differential. The Type S is nearly 40% more expensive than this in RWD form, and a little lower price difference in AWD form. This is the same price as a base FWD TLX with no options.

Q. How can we tell the car is no good right away? A. Jack skipped the review

The car is very cool, but the truth is that the target demographic is not clearly defined Working professionals with the cash to buy a car for 38k will buy a luxury brand. People who want a stylish car from a mainstream brand but don’t care about RWD will buy a k5 or Camry or etc. that leaves the enthusiast market who will shell out the cash, which is comparatively smalL

You are the only one giving honest reviews. Thank you

Great review mark!

If you're an enthusiast, you don't by a GT-Line lol. Simple as that. You buy a RWD GT. That's what I did. 3 years into owning and don't regret one gallon of fuel consumed irresponsibly at full boost.

Am I the only one that didn't expect the GT-Line 4 cyl to be a "performance" car? I really don't think that's a fair criticism.

Great review, thanks for telling it like it is.

Thank you for an excellent critical review. I'm still going to buy the exact version you tested in blue because even though you don't love the car, you did not say anything that would put me off it. For the price, this checks all the boxes on my list.

Personally, I'm only interested in carving my car through some tight backroads from time to time; I have no interest in 'getting sideways' or burning through tires. So a car like the AWD GT2 with the LSD is actually pretty appealing. The main downside being the weight; it's really not as chuckable as I'd like, which becomes really obvious when you drive it back to back with something like a Golf R. BUT, at least for the weight, you get a lot of comfort, good interior use of space, and great cargo capacity. It also does little wrong; the tech is generally good ergonomically and has all the features I'd want, and the level of luxury is right about at the level where I'm not interested in paying for more. In this day and age, not screwing any of these things up is sadly very rare. To me the GT2 is a Q50S or TLX-S competitor, and I'd take it over the Infiniti 10 times out of 10. The Acura is a bit tougher a comparison, but cost (Canada) and inefficient use of power & space, plus ugly interior design in the acura would push me to the stinger. This GT line I'd expect to cross shop with a loaded camry, accord, maxima, or sonata n-line. I think I'd take it over all of those; none are going to be great drivers' cars, and the stinger probably at least matches the others in comfort/features/handling, and gives you the hatch. I also think Kia deserves a lot more credit for trying something new like this and falling a bit short of amazing, than Acura or Infiniti do for underwhelming with the latest versions of their signature models.

The true KIA fanboys won't find anything wrong with this cost cutting division of the KIA and Hyundai brands. They're fooling lots of people. The people looking for bargains get suckered into, well the car looks nice and they offer all these great features for this lower price. They're cutting corners somewhere. The engine fires issue is just one dangerous example. They're still dealing with that even on some 2022 models that have spontaneously caught fire. They also denied the problem early on and were blaming it on something else and not taking any responsibility. They didn't do a recall for a while.

Serious question--how many RWD sedans in this car's price range (mid 35K to 40k) have an LSD? You can option up a base BMW 3 series for an LSD, but by the time you pay for it you're in Kia Stinger V6 RWD price territory. The 3 series would be like 1K less, and the V6 Stinger comes with LSD as standard now. This 4 cylinder car is an Audi A5 sportback competitor, especially when you equip it with AWD. That's what it should really be compared too. Use the Genesis G70 as the 3 series competitor and the Stinger as the A5/S5 competitor. I also feel like this car could be the evolution of the 4th gen Subaru Legacy GT, if Subaru had decided to keep it a little sporty. The Legacy used to be the grown up WRX, with good power, more comfort and a little less sporty. So that's how I kinda view the turbo 4 Stinger. Plus it straddles the practicality of the old Legacy sedan and wagon. I don't believe RWD drifting is what this car is about. It's like complaining that a base Impreza doesn't perform like a WRX. The drifting is reserved for the RWD V6 Stinger.

I drive a 2022 awd gt line and I absolutely agree on everything

No surprise there, it’s a Kia product. Hyundai no different. Much respect to Mark for calling out crap and not being concerned about ramifications.

I can’t wait to see you test the new z06 and gr Corolla

Honestly, as a German, I will have to say this. South Korean cars are pretty dang good these days. Considering all the boring, tasteless cars I normally see here which come from Germany, your only opportunity to driving something nice and refreshing is either buying Japanese or South Korean. Considering how current german cars are, cars like the Stinger truely feel wonderful.

I have owned many hatchbacks. I like the utility and versatility. Now, I’m 65 and I need a bigger vehicle than a Veloster (or Golf ect ) and I want something with more grunt than the Civic. This seems like a perfect choice for me. I also drive in a warm climate so rear wheel drive is ok for me. Thanks for your honest reviews. I find these extremely informative and most certainly helpful.

I wish he had reviewed the all-wheel-drive or GT rwd w/lsd version because those are the only ones worth buying in my humble opinion

This is a GT car, not a sports car. In that context it truely is a great value alternative to German brands when spec'd properly. Base GT with the V6, rear wheel drive, mechanical limited slip. MSRP around 40k in 2020. Brand snobs need not apply. Mark, 3rd review is the charm! You'll go sideways if you want too... P.S. 30 mpg with V6 on highway in ECO mode with a couple pulls thrown in the mix. 72 mph cruise, around 1700 rpm.

Talked to a guy with AWD 6 cyl. Twin turbo, he said he consistently gets 25 mpg. Driving it how he wants to.

I’ve owned 3 - 2019, 2021, and now I have a 2022 AWD. The 2022 is the best bang for your buck in 4cyl form. An LSD is standard with the RWD V6. Nevertheless, I stick out from the crowd and I love that feeling. I’m sure some fellow owners feel the same.

Since the Stringer was released I have not seen a lot of them on the road (I'm in N. Calif), I've never personally driven one so I can't speak from a hands-on experience perspective. There's been conflicting stories online about KIA killing this model later this year. It wouldn't surprise me if they do given how few I've noticed.

Test drove the awd. Was meh, dealer was nuts. Wanted 4K over sticker said it was a desired model lol

As the owner of a BMW 535i GT X-Drive, I see a lot of similarities between it and this Stinger. After watching both of your reviews on this car, I will happily stick with the BMW. As a side note, the formula you use to review cars and the cinematography of your videos is second to none!

I think the title should've been closer to like "Not a sports sedan". As a v6 AWD owner, I 100% agree with you on how invasive the traction & stability controls are. In the sportiest settings, the car will cut power (or apply brakes), 4/5 times I try hooning it at a turn. You get a little bit of tire squeal and then the power dies on you. But that 1 time when you get it perfect, it feels amazing.

I always appreciate reviewers that aren't shy to give solid criticisms of cars, let alone say something is straight "garbage." We need more reviewers like this.

Looked at one of these a whole back. Ended up with a Ford Taurus SHO instead. The Ford would have been better as a hatch- or a wagon! But despite the very different layouts these cars have similar strengths: deceptively quick high way cruisers with plenty of room for 4 adults and a trunk big enough to hold all their luggage.

This is why I watch this channel. I appreciate the unvarnished truth. I come from the same camp as an enthusiast who loves tight twisty roads but also understands there are many types of driver who enjoy different aspects/sensations of driving. Some enjoy a good cruiser, others straight line high speed runs or off road antics. The Stinger was mis marketed it’s a cruiser not sports car.

What a professional and knowledge review. I guess is the first kept my attention hundred porcent

Stingers always catch my eye down the road. I was very interested in one when I was buying a new car last year but the ones I wanted weren't cheap. I've always been a BMW person so ended up sticking with what I know is good and getting a 2018 330i M Sport CPO with 14k miles for 8k less than this is new (paid $30.6k). Thanks for the review.

Kia is #1 in all vehicle Makes right now in highest average dealer markups over MSRP and it isn't even close. That Kia doesn't seem to care about its image or customer satisfaction even a tiny bit regarding this fact keeps me far away from them.

Respect to a honest reviewer

Kia/Hyundai should pay you some kickbacks for your "QA" review. You're doing them a favor by being honest. Great job.

man watching that thing go around a corner with your foot buried in it was sad. i have a rwd v6 one with an lsd and its 100% a different car from this. the car never fails to put a smile on my face and its really comfortable. all that character that i love in mine would be gone if it didnt have that lsd though.

For my girlfriend and me, the base stinger AWD was a wayyyyy more fun option than the VW arteon, cx5 turbo, and 430i for substantially less money. She can't get comfortable in a Golf GTI and doesn't drive manual, and for me anything with a CVT was out. I just don't think there's anything else on the market that can do what this car can for that money. I haven't driven the RWD version however, so maybe the AWD is way better.

I felt the same way about the GT2 as well, it's a great GT for normal daily driving. I would LOVE for Hyundai's new N division to get their hands on the Kia Stinger, they would make it drive like we all wish it would.

This is why this channel is called SAVAGE Geese. Brutal honesty is what you get each time. It's videos like this that lends credence to when Mark lavishes praise on another vehicle. Plain and simple not all cars are even good. It's one thing if a car is complete and utter trash. It's another when there's a loyal base and the car is terrible. Good on SG to not mince words and call out this trash vehicle despite the loyal fanbase.

A review of a 2022 Alfa Giulia 2.0T RWD would be interesting. Biggest discounts rn.

It seems like most of the driving impression issues noted would be addressed by the V6 version. 🤷

The best reviewer! No sucking up to manufacturers, no marketing bs, just pure cold hard facts and views.

Great video, I would like to know if if we're your money and you just wanted a daily, are you taking stinger or Arteon?

I like that you guys "review" the cars. Not just speak on features, but an actual critical look at everything. I don't care what engine it is, I care how to proforms and you guys do a great job of conveying what everything is really like.

As someone who owns a 2020 Stinger GT Ltd (twin Turbo V6, AWD), and enjoys my car, I feel like this review is more than fair and equitable. Why buy RWD if you can't have fun with it at all. I bought the TT V6 with AWD for the power and the horrible climate up north I live in. But, as an owner, everything said about this RWD 4cyl is entirely fair and equitable. No hate at all. Great review as always.

is it just me or does the thumbnail to this video look exactly like RCR's ? :-D . Can't thank you enough for the quality work you all do. As you say, 'breath of freash air'.

Happy Thanksgiving, SG! You could haul a lot of gravy in that hatchback!

Hyundai/Kia has the resource to make a real STATEMENT with an FR Sport Coupe with the 2.5L Turbo and the V6. I am a Mazda person, but if they actually make an affordable Manual FR Coupe like the Japanese, I would seriously consider it.

Yeah sure it looks good and it can do miles. Does that mean it's a top pick in the price bracket? Not for me at least. Appreciate the review.

As a 3.3 gt2 owner, I do agree with this review! But that’s also why I went for the 3.3 instead of the 4 banger, however they do have options available for a limited slip differential in the gts models, why not do a comparison for one of those models? Find a 3.3 Gts, I’d love to see how you view the differences.

Nice video straight and true. I loved the the presentation, Gratz. When are you going to review an RX8/7 ? :D

I have to agree with Mark on this one - if the RWD is neutered, why get the entry level stinger instead of the K5 GT, which has the same engine and a DCT but costs $6k less?

That review..... Stung

My daily commuter is a 2019 Stinger GTS and the pros and cons discussed here are very fair. It's a great car for my 20 minute daily commute down the highway. It has the look and feel of a European sports car without the high cost of ownership. The V6 is a completely different animal from the 4-banger and fixes many of the cons voiced in this video. Kia definitely did cut corners in some areas. My lower deflector randomly ripped off at highway speed a few weeks back. I also developed the hatch rattle these cars are infamous for but that can be fixed in 5 minutes with a couple washers. That being said I'd say overall these cars are a great purchase.

Mark, your honesty is so refreshing. Your technical understanding in the auto journo world is outstanding! Kia/Hyundai brought in some great German designers, dumped a TON of money into marketing and the people drank the Kool aid. Kia/Hyundai are still inferior to Honda/toyota/Mazda for the most part. But hey, they look cool