2022 Marin San Quentin 2 VS. San Quentin 3 | Specifications, details, differences and why you'd buy

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2022 Marin San Quentin 2 VS. San Quentin 3 | Specifications, details, differences and why you'd buy

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This was originally filmed in 2021. Since then, prices have increased but the bikes have remained the same. Marin does this with many models: carrying them over for 2 years.
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We look at and talk about the differences between these two 27.5" wheel hardtail mountain bikes. These two bikes share the same frame but have different Shimano Deore drivetrains (11 speed and 12 speed), different dropper posts, different Shimano disc brake models, different tires (vee tire or maxxis), and different Rock Shox suspension forks (Recon and Revelation).
So who does each model suit? Why spend the extra money or why choose to save a few dollars.
This is a comparison and review from Bike Bros., a Cochrane, Alberta, Canada bicycle shop.

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@tab7860 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great overview! I am currently considering purchasing a San Quentin and found this video very helpful. I have just clicked the subscribe button.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! thanks! So which one are you thinking and why?

@jackn7013 3 жыл бұрын

I have the 2020 sq2 and personally I loved all the colours of the sanquentins in 2020 a lot more than 2021, and it’s had quite a change in spec. Mine had sram nx whereas the 2021 has shimano deore, and the 2020 comes with tektro brakes which are awful. I’ve put a brand X dropper on mine and I’m saving up for some shimano slx 4 piston brakes

@chrisbfleetwood 3 жыл бұрын

Was at your shop on the weekend! Awesome shop! Awesome vids! Keep up the great work! Gotta support the local guys who know what they are talking about! :)

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks do much! I'm embarrassed at the lack of bikes but glad you had a good visit!

@timfreeman2603 2 жыл бұрын

I went for the SQ2 recently. Had to swap the dropper lever and pedals. Chose to swap the grips, 8” rotors and a Deore crank.

@paulv8453 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Question: what do you do of you are between frame sizes? I am 5’6” with 29” inseam. I currently ride a size small 2015 Specialized Stumpjumper Evolution Como. Is it been to go down in size so you can man-handle it or go up in size? Thanks 🙏 in advance!

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

I think a medium in the San Quentin would work for you. You will notice the fit of the bike will be quite different (but better).

@paulv8453 2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShopThank you

@NacojayProductionsHD 2 жыл бұрын

How different does the XL size feel compared to the large? I'm wondering cause I feel I'm in between the two sizes being around 6 feet tall, and I'm getting a mix of recommendations from different shops. I don't want to feel that the bike is too small or too big for me, but I do tend to lean towards a more nimble bike. Normally I'd try them both in the shop, but with the shortages, that's nearly impossible to accomplish nowadays. What would you say separates them in terms of ride feel to the best of your knowledge?

@jamesb12356 3 жыл бұрын

You should do a video on building the bikes up got my marin san quentin 3 on the way but I'm no bike mechanic it would be a great help to me.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to... it is a bit tricky though. It is still so busy, and so many interruptions that it is hard to do. The bikes get built during business hours. For these bike reviews I have to wait until after hours to film.

@jamesb12356 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop your so good at going in to detail about the bikes just thought it would be great to hear step by step bike builds.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

In the future I hope to once this pandemic bike boom calms a bit

@iand.s.981 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great review, best of luck with your chanell

@madcapper6 2 жыл бұрын

As a long time Seattle Seahawks fan, I love the colors on the 2.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

Ya, I guess it would. Good looking bike!

@monjesmedia 2 жыл бұрын

Go Hawks!!

@marcusklaver998 Жыл бұрын

Just bought the 3! Took me a long time to find one!

@AleksCoreBY 3 жыл бұрын

Great bikes, buying SQ2 tomorrow, cant wait!

@Iheartdgd 3 жыл бұрын

So how do you like it?

@AleksCoreBY 3 жыл бұрын

@@Iheartdgd I love it. Cant really say anything bad about it. Using all range of gears and for me its enough. Finally have bicycle with dropper seatpost, absolute dream! Gears switching so smooth, don't need to think about front derailleur anymore. Just sit and enjoy ride. Strong bicycle, not afraid to lose wheels or something XD Earlier felt scared to do some lite drops in the city, now feels super ez, thx to dropper. That bicycle inspire to learn more tricks and things, but need to be careful, I fell off pretty hard recently.

@Iheartdgd 3 жыл бұрын

@@AleksCoreBY thanks for the review man :) I just ordered one a couple days ago, should be here next week:) will do a full bike check/review on my channel

@Topan_Conspiracy 9 ай бұрын

Just got this bike for 550usd on clearence.. super stoked

@BikeBrosBikeShop 9 ай бұрын

Congrats. That is a great deal. Enjoy

@d4bid15 3 жыл бұрын

Just got my SQ2 yesterday, looks beautiful! One thing I noticed was the head tube badge was installed poorly. Do they just use a double sided tape to install it?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new bike. Yes, those headtube badges sometimes aren't stuck on very well. I think it is just double sided tape.

@AMGplays_ 3 жыл бұрын

Just add some glue or something

@George-je1fs 3 жыл бұрын

@@AMGplays_ fit and finish should be quality at that price point

@AMGplays_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@George-je1fs agreed

@abhinav6880 3 жыл бұрын

I think marin thought why not let the customer take it off easily lol

@matticus6339 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid. I am hoping to buy a SQ3 on Saturday from the LBS. I had things narrowed down to a couple models but saw that Marin still offers a lifetime warranty on the rigid aluminum frames so that pushed me towards the Marin. I just cracked a frame on my old bike(not marin)

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

thanks, I hope you can track one of these bikes down. Bike are getting really hard to find right now.

@hanzhaoxia4370 3 жыл бұрын

Do the bikes come with any assembly tools like a pedal wrench or torque wrench? If so do bike shops you give it to the customers?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

No, bikes don't come with any tools.

@rocketrad9607 3 жыл бұрын

Hi interested getting Marin SQ3, I’m 176cm and having trouble choosing between medium or large size frame. I’m more trail riding and single track on a hard tail. Any advice what would be my size of frame? Much appreciated. Thanks!

@mattlyone3147 3 жыл бұрын

You should try both. I just got a sq3 yesterday. The medium felt perfect to me. I am 5'8. Looks even better in person

@walken199 2 жыл бұрын

Great work, you really took the time to do a good job, thank you!

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for the feedback

@scottwilkie6178 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, do you have the Marin rift zone 3 you could do a video on please

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

I will try to do a Rift Zone 3 video if we have one in stock long enough.

@tashiigurung3006 2 жыл бұрын

Hello there, I’m confuse which one to choose between fathom 2 and San Quentin 2? I’m a beginner rider. Help me

@CasperRc81 3 жыл бұрын

I have the riftzone 3 because I broke the frame at the gusset on my ok’d b17-2. Riftzone frame was next to replace great geometry change. But I have to buy a bigger dropper now that the seat clamp area is considerably lower than the b17-2. Pretty bikes.

@TheLonelyChicken 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video. such nice looking bikes. Are the rims taped and ready to accept tubeless, or do you need to tape them yourself?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't had an opportunity to pull tires off any of these to check.sorry.

@jedensmark8305 3 жыл бұрын

hey what is the mountim bike that u would recomend for 7000-8000 . just for driving at roades and in the forrest

@rasitto Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, I just order the sq3 for my first hard tail bike, what you recommended if I want to get a faster rolling tire?

@BikeBrosBikeShop Жыл бұрын

I personally like Schwalbe Hans Dampf in 2.6 width for a fast rolling tire that works well in all types of dirt.

@DoubleDicker 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys, Im looking at a san quentin and this was really helpfull.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

@woutervanteerling 3 жыл бұрын

Its hard for me to not go for the best option without a doubt.. which one you choose?

@DoubleDicker 3 жыл бұрын

@@woutervanteerling I was looking at the 2 but this video convinced me the 3 is worth the extra money.

@markcleak7963 3 жыл бұрын

Hi great video. I am newish to MTB have a tolon 2 to thinking of upgrading to fathom 2 or San Quentin 2. Which is the better choice ? Would like to do some jumps and harder trails. Thanks all help greatly appreciated.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

I think they're both great options and you're sort of trading lighter weight (Fathom) for a bit more toughness on the Marin. This year, with the shortage of bikes, if you're lucky enough to find either then you're pretty lucky and I'd be surprised if you had a moment where both were available at the same time from your local store.

@danyAlva11 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I just received my sq3, do you know if the rims come with tape for tubeless? I noticed they came with some kind of tape but I’m not sure if that works for tubeless or I if need to remove and use real rim tape, thx

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

The ones we checked seemed to be taped and ready for Tubeless. That said, we are seeing some inconsistencies with specifications as the factory will change details depending on outsourced parts availability. Typically Tubeless compatible tape has a shiny smooth appearance, non Tubeless has some texture and a satin finish.

@danyAlva11 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop thank you for replying :) I have a last question hopefully you can answer, putting back the rear wheel is a pain in the *ss (axle not screwing to the other side) the trick seems to be derailleur hanger, It has some play, should i tighten it until no play or loosen it until axle can screw all the way to the other side?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

@@danyAlva11 Hi, we've seen this sort of issue on bikes from a few brands. Loosening the hanger could allow it to align with the thread's better to get the axle in easier. Just make sure you tighten the hanger after. I'd make sure there is some grease on the thread too. If this is the case, test if the axle is hard to remove with the hanger tightened - if it is, loosen the hanger before loosening. I'm guessing this could be extra thick paint somewhere that mis-aligns the threads at the last part of tightening.

@norcalchrismeister 2 жыл бұрын

I'm considering a San Quentin 3 and a Specialized Fuse Expert. I usually ride trails with steep climbs so would the Expert be better for that?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

I think you could go either way and be happy but I do notice a steeper seat angle on the San Quentin which is good for climbing

@Broadcastburnout Жыл бұрын

Se puede convertir a Rodado 29? Can you convert it to 29 ?

@tigerbalm666 2 жыл бұрын

Nice that pedals included in case you haven't decided on upgrade.

@trailrider3625 3 жыл бұрын

The captions said maxxis "ass guy" 🤣🤣😂

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

haha. We giggle in the shop every time we talk about this tire.

@JamesBrown-wp1di 3 жыл бұрын

I only ride a carrera now but looking for an upgrade. At 17 I have a job and enough money for SQ 2 is it much better than the SQ1? Is the SQ1 even worth buying?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

San Quentin 1 is a great bike for what it costs... it just isn't as refined or as tough as the SQ2, just like the SQ3 is even more refined and more capable. SQ1 still has the same great handling characteristics, just won't hold up quite as well under harsher use.

@gobolinogobolino8971 Жыл бұрын

Hi, can I upgrade 29 wheel front and keep 27.5 wheel rear. Thankyou.

@BikeBrosBikeShop Жыл бұрын

You'd need to change the fork both to fit the 29 wheel and also shorten the travel by 20mm to maintain the stock geometry

@leem4017 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video, does the rear wheel on SQ2 have a thru axle?

@BikeBrosBikeShop Жыл бұрын

Yes, the frames on the SQ2 and SQ3 are identical (except for the colour)

@leonardtan7275 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man just wanna get some thoughts, im 171cm and planning to get marin sq3, which would be more comfortable small or medium?

@eatmedaddy2151 3 жыл бұрын

Medium it will last you longer

@neuronflow 2 жыл бұрын

It seems there are two versions of the bike with different GEO at the connection point of the seat post and top tube (not sure how this part is called but visible in the video)? Local dealer here has the SQ3 with the geo of the blue bike hero and the SQ2 with the geo of the orange one?! Do you know any details?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

The difference is between difference in sizes. Size small has a very subtle gusset yet larger sizes have a more noticeable gusset

@joserizal877 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make marin bikes frame size comparisons? Tia!

@itr0863 2 жыл бұрын

cant decide on the sq 2 or 3 and the riftzone 2 and 3. i don't have a preference on full sus or hard tail, i just want whats the best bang for the money in that category of san q and riftzone

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

I'd go with the SQ 3 or RZ 3 if you can afford it. Quality of suspension and drivetrain is worth it and especially suspension as it is so expensive to buy after market. Whether you go SQ or RZ is very personal. I love having a hardtail as a second bike for when the mood hits but prefer a full suspension bike as my main bike for comfort and being able to do some drops more easily. If find my wrists and lower back get sore more quickly on a hardtail.

@itr0863 2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop thank u so much for the informative and quick reply, muchc appreciated

@aditsachdeva4087 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I have recently booked a sq-3. Here on KZfaq, your video is probably the most detailed video regarding the San Quentins. One thing that I don’t understand is that the specs specifically mention “suspension lockout” in specs of the San Quentin 1 on the official website, but San Quentin 3 specs don’t have “suspension lockout” mentioned anywhere on the official website. Does this mean that only the San Quentin 1 has a lockout feature or do all the San Quentins have a lockout feature? PS: I am new to mountain biking, in case you are wondering Looking forward to hearing from you. Regards,

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

I think it is mentioned on the SQ1 because at that price it is considered a feature. As the prices increase, a fork lockout is basically expected so they don't bother mentioning

@aditsachdeva4087 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop 👍🏻 .. thank you

@terryhastings1695 3 жыл бұрын

Fab review. I would get a local mic for better sound and getting goosebumps in the way you describe the reasons for some of the tech on these. My son says 2 I would pump for a 3... coming from a trek 7 either sound awesome. Such a shame they are like gold dust here in the UK. THANKS

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Terry. Yes, I agree, lighting and sound need work... I'm trying to pay attention to my position relative to the camera to try to improve the audio... thanks for the feedback.

@terryhastings1695 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop Can recommend Rode - even a basic one, or Blue...

@holliedekraai4137 2 жыл бұрын

If you are a beginner, would you say go with the 1 or 2?

@stephenhill6003 Жыл бұрын

I've read that the Marin 1 has a different frame and isn't as good of a bike. I guess it depends how soon you expect to upgrade.

@theperfecthusband-jd5or 2 жыл бұрын

I just found this store is in Canada. do you have san quentin frame available? would like to buy one.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, sorry, no frames in stock

@abhinav6880 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man nice video Do they come with a shock pump for the fork

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, sorry they don't. The last bikes we saw shipping with shock pumps were probably about 10 years ago.

@abhinav6880 3 жыл бұрын

Also the marin website show only a difference of iscg tabs and a boost TA rear between the SQ1 and SQ2 .is there any other difference

@hansonwang2121 3 жыл бұрын

When did you receive the san quentin 2?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

A couple days ago... it was the only one we got so still waiting for the rest of the sizes to arrive.

@rdotzig 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop Nice. Do you guys sell these bikes?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

@@rdotzig we typically have all models and sizes. Right now we literally don't even have a hardtail on the sales floor

@rdotzig 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop sheesh,lol. Any idea when you guys will receive another shipment?

@davidhall5130 2 жыл бұрын

Is san Quentin 1 frame the same as these two

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, no it isn't. The 1 is designed for a qr rear hub, not a thru-axle

@davidhall5130 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks I’ve been pondering on it. I like all the colours and I know I’ll upgrade most parts at some point

@yuheny0 3 жыл бұрын

Marin San quentin or RM growler? Which one is the best bang for your buck?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Marin is probably a little better bang for buck but they're very different bikes. San Quentin is designed to be more nimble. Growler is a beast and built for higher speeds and steeper descending

@nicholasschultz9194 3 жыл бұрын

Do you currently have any luck with the San Quentin 2 in stock? It's been hard to find them lately.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

No stock, sorry

@nicholasschultz9194 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop I thought not. Do you see a few bikes at a time or are you waiting for a full shipment to come?

@denniswilson9025 3 жыл бұрын

Are the wheels tubeless if I was able to upgrade tires on the 2?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I believe these wheels can be set up tubeless.

@erod6468 3 жыл бұрын

I'm 166-167 cm tall, weigh around 178 lbs. Medium sound like a good fit? My inseam is 31 inches. Thanks in advance for the reply.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Medium would work if you're looking for a stable trail bike. Small would work if you're hoping to have a more agile bike (like if you enjoy jumping and messing around). One thing to watch for, if you go with a medium (and you're officially on the small side for a medium) is that the dropper will work for your desired pedalling seat height.

@erod6468 3 жыл бұрын

You're the man brother. Keep up the great work. You got a new subscriber and a 👍🏼. Got the SQ2, small, changed the tires to a tubeless setup. Thanks for helping me in my decision.

@jbhvbc 3 жыл бұрын

What’s the widest tire you can fit on a San Quentin 2?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

2.6"

@fredvirgilbarriga619 3 жыл бұрын

Im 168 cm tall, barefoot. Which size would be best for me?

@aguagou Жыл бұрын

M 👍

@noahhodder5998 3 жыл бұрын

can you lock the shocks on these bikes?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@crocketttubbs2141 3 жыл бұрын

What's the best size for 5"8 - 5'9

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Size medium

@drwang699 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea when you would get the san quentin 3 in.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

It will depend a bit on the size. Large and XL might be in the next month. Medium in a couple months (maybe).

@drwang699 2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop ok and could i reserve it and put a deposit down or something or is it just first come first serve

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

@@drwang699 Hi, give the shop a call or email and we can talk about how the deposits work. cheers

@bermshark 3 жыл бұрын

What size is the san quentin 2?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

it is a small and that is why the top tube / seat tube gusset is much smaller

@bermshark 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop Thanks for letting me know, Where did you get the bikes?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

We're a bike shop. Inventory we ordered 6 months ago

@kevinsanford8244 2 жыл бұрын

I’m 5,10 should I go for the san quetin 3 “M” or “XL” ?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

Large, ideally

@kevinsanford8244 2 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop do you have shipments to florida USA ?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinsanford8244 sorry, we don't. Both because the cost would be crazy and our dealer agreement with Marin doesn't allow it.

@chandrupalngate16 3 жыл бұрын

What the size of the orange bike

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

I think it was a large... I think it is mentioned in the video

@Mrmaxall 3 жыл бұрын

how he behaves on the climbs?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Won't climb as well as a 29er but still quite good

@nikkidye7486 3 жыл бұрын

Marin San Quentin 2 on the Marin website is $1359.00.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

That is correct. That is the US$ price. We are in Canada so we quote the Canadian $ price. cheers, happy trails.

@treyelefsen1689 3 жыл бұрын

The san Quentin 2 cranks are fsa

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jaydenvang3733 3 жыл бұрын

Is Marin still shipping?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Just got another shipment today.

@abezpugz2907 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a stock on both? I might drop by anytime soon.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, We have stock. I think all sizes in the SQ2 (we just received some yesterday) but only a large left if SQ3.

@abezpugz2907 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop are u getting more medium size on sq3?

@abezpugz2907 3 жыл бұрын

And do you have stocks on giant fathom 2 29?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

They are on order but not sure when they will arrive.

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

We have Many Fathom and Fathom 29 on order... I think we see 29er in January. Got our first 27.5 yesterday. It looks amazing

@Mrmaxall 3 жыл бұрын

How much weight?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Weights are mentioned in the video.

@Mrmaxall 3 жыл бұрын

Not speak ingles

@moomooclark7987 3 жыл бұрын

The suggested retail price on this is 1359 your price is $500 / the suggested retail price

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

We're in Canada... you're looking at USD msrp.

@nosmoke4267 3 жыл бұрын

iam 178 i dont know whitch size i get M or L please help

@muammar1893 3 жыл бұрын

smaller r better

@michaelmcclure3383 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not L.. probably M. Are you young and growing? Thats a factor too I guess.

@nosmoke4267 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmcclure3383 thank u no iam 25 years

@michaelmcclure3383 3 жыл бұрын

@@nosmoke4267 cool. Yeah I'd look at an M. It can be tough on sizing if you're buying online, but doubt you can go wrong with a an M.

@nosmoke4267 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmcclure3383 ok thanks i think m is better

@ralexlu 3 жыл бұрын

Wait the SQ2 is retailed at $1299...

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

Our prices are Canadian $$

@ralexlu 3 жыл бұрын

@@BikeBrosBikeShop oh okay!

@radidoc4832 2 жыл бұрын

It's a travesty that they put wired bead tires on San Quentin 2. I mean, if you are paying 1.5k on a bike, tubeless tires are a must! Even a cheap Kenda tire will be better tubeless!

@BikeBrosBikeShop 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call it a travesty. At this level of bike we find very few customers are concerned about Tubeless tires.

@CasperRc81 3 жыл бұрын

I wheelie the crap out of my riftzone with my son.

@Mrmaxall 3 жыл бұрын

how it behaves in lines with respect to a 29?

@BikeBrosBikeShop 3 жыл бұрын

It isn't quite as stable but a bit more playful.