The Toyobaru "twins" are everyone's favorite $30K, naturally aspirated, RWD, 2+2 sports coupes at the moment, but how does it match up against the old-but-gold E46 M3 that can now be had for the same money? / zygrene
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@ravijotwani9286 Жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! I’m the owner of the E46. A couple of clarifications: The transmission conversion will run you a lot closer to $4k (sometimes cheaper depending on who you go to). That $6k number came from all of the preventative maintenance you can do, like RMS, new clutch & flywheel, throttle & crank position sensors, etc. The car is still a work in progress 😅 I’m still sorting out a couple of quirks so it’s not at 100% at the time of filming. I have a couple of ideas for the clunk coming from the rear diff, but it’s not really hurting anything at the moment. As mentioned in the video, being smooth with the inputs really helps. The suspension needs work for sure. My dampers are set up extremely stiff and my goal for the next month or two is to get the suspension dialed while maintaining ideal fitment. I’m also throwing on a set of track pads next month. As for the steering, it isn’t all that great on-center. Loaded up mid-corner is where this rack really shines. I’m not sure if that’s just my car or all E46s. I’ve driven a couple of E9Xs and their on-center feel is amazing. Thanks for the review, Fenton! I’ll shoot you a text when the car is fully sorted and closer to my vision for a complete build.
@Crossyaover Жыл бұрын
Cheers man. Your E46 is a beautiful car
@dominicvl1990 Жыл бұрын
I had a clunking in the rear of mine. Turns out the previous owner installed the poly bushing on the diff cover wrong and it caused play. Ended up being a costly fix which could have been a lot worse
@Fee.1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the rundown
@Nachizl248 Жыл бұрын
Steering guibo if it hasn’t been replaced
@tommylam3074 Жыл бұрын
You’re doing great! It could be a few worn bushings but damn I wish I got a m3.
@kyletice811 Жыл бұрын
Can't stop watching the loose C pillar trim bouncing around. There is a reason the E46 M3 has been a trackday favorite for over 2 decades now.
@jameslerner846 Жыл бұрын
it's a complete shit box. love it.
@Volvo8Fifty4Life Жыл бұрын
As an owner of an e46 M3, I am thrilled that you ended up choosing a 20+ year old car over a fully capable, brand new sports car! Great video and review.
@BestMotorWerks Жыл бұрын
It's just better and of course it is a m3...
@andycalifornia426 Жыл бұрын
But the dude still owns the BRZ. Why didn't he sell it and buy the M3? It's like every reviewer out there raving about E39 M5, Miata, Ferrari 458, Mustang GT350 -- and instead owning an effing GTI.
@shakespeareracing7822 Жыл бұрын
I think you're exactly right in your opinion. The BRZ is a phenomenal car. The fact that in 2022 we have a affordable, quick, light, tossable, RWD coupe that can still be daily driven is something that's not to be taken for granted. However, going back and driving the high revving motorsport derived NA engines of the past and you realize the critical flaw in the BRZ -- the engine just not being very exciting. That isn't the fault of Subaru and it's just a victim of the times, but how I wish we could have a S54 in a BRZ with a warranty.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Spoken like Shakespeare himself
@joshklaver47 Жыл бұрын
Get a set of unequal length headers in the BRZ and it gets way more exciting. I don't know why they didn't do that from the factory. It totally changes the character into an NA STI essentially.
@avery4528 Жыл бұрын
Well, to get that engine in the car, it started at $47k in 2003 and most were specced to at least $50k; factor in inflation and you’re looking at a new M4 today. Makes me kinda sad that they left the era of the M3 CSL meanwhile Porsche has a 4.0L flat four still in production.
@CodySnell_87 Жыл бұрын
Id ratger have a f20c in a brz think an inline 6 would really throw off the balance of the car
@DjNikGnashers Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video thanks. My only criticism, is that you are not really comparing a 2022 BRZ with a 2004 E46 M3 at all. You are comparing an almost brand new BRZ which has been significantly modified to handle much better than it did when it left the factory, against a 20 year old car which has also had significant modifications to try and make it feel like a much newer car. Any car can be the fastest most amazing handling car with enough money spent on it. What would have been a true comparison, would be to take a completely standard BRZ, and compare it to a standard but well maintained, low mileage E46 M3. Only then would you get a true comparison.
@bigoc55 Жыл бұрын
Always loved ur comparisons and reviews. Been watching since the beginning. Ur channel back then. Should have gotten a lot more recognition. U do a great job explaining everything to real drivers. That truly understand what ur saying. I appreciate ur vids keep doing ur thing! And having E46 ownership since 2003. And I’ll never sell. One of my favorite cars ever and an M5.
@dominicvl1990 Жыл бұрын
I had an e46 m3 and all your points are right on with what I was thinking. I loved the car but it ended up being one of those don’t meet your hero situations.
@thepassionofthegoose5472 Жыл бұрын
A mint, no excuse C5 Z06 would be my 30-35K choice.
@JO-ts3gu Жыл бұрын
As someone who owns an E46 M3 and has had it since 2010, and someone who has rented a BRZ to drive in Hakone, Japan. They're very similar feeling cars and they both have their pluses and minuses. The BRZ feels more solid in the canyons, and the BMW feels more solid on expressways and smooth flowing country roads. Both are excellent cars.
@27Ctrojans Жыл бұрын
The z4m is even better. You gotta do a bit of work to realize the e46 potential
@philly9403 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved the E46 but your track prepped video convinced me to sell the E90 and move into one of these. The E90 is amazing but, to me, the E46 better represents what a BMW should be. Great video.
@scoutmaster314 Жыл бұрын
Love the new vs used comparisons. I voted with my own wallet in the segment very recently and picked up a 987 Boxster. I don’t think there is a new car anywhere near the price point of a used Boxster that I would enjoy nearly as much. The BRZ/86 or Miata would be the closest, but I’m happy with my choice. As a 4th car, it doesn’t have to be super practical, and it is nowhere near the fastest, but it’s easily the most fun to drive.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
987 is among the best street legal driving experiences you can have for under 30k. Good choice!
@gigi9467 Жыл бұрын
Hope u have deep pockets my friend..
@pan4632 Жыл бұрын
keep up the comparisons! Great content as always. I am placing an order for a 23 'BRZ 6mt largely because of you and TheTopher
@Dragon228833 Жыл бұрын
As a gr86 owner you won’t regret ur decision
@VictorPitstop Жыл бұрын
All my friends got the GR86/BRZ (3 of them now) and they are raving about them. One of them is setting ridiculous times at my local track with just alignment mods, sticky 200tw tires and lighter wheels.
@Dragon228833 Жыл бұрын
@@VictorPitstop i am going to set up my first track day tomorrow. Very excited to dip into tracking the car
@freemanoid321 Жыл бұрын
So basically this e46 is semi-broken and you chose it for comparison :(
@crossphaded Жыл бұрын
It's amazing to think in today's world, the 46M is considered a "momentum car"! I get passed all day on the straights at Laguna by RS3's, M2's, and even modded Evo's and STI's, but who cares! The E46 still possesses enough analog feel blended with just enough modern tech that makes it arguably the greatest M car ever. The legendary S54 engine is just icing on the cake. I almost sold mine when I picked up an R8, but I'm so glad I didn't! It's staying in my stable forever!
@mrgizmo7975 Жыл бұрын
Video got a like for the right choice at the end... from a fellow E46 M3 owner 🤣. I might see you at the track one of these days, I'm also in norcal. Cheers!
@davidsucks922 Жыл бұрын
I went from an E46 M3 to a GR86. I agree with you on all points in the video, 86/BRZ definitely feels lighter and sharper but that S54 is magic. I will say though the M3 always felt to me like a sporty luxury car rather than a true sports car, which makes sense given its 3 series underpinnings. At the end of the day though my main reason for switching was maintenance costs lol, the E46 M3 gets very expensive to keep on the road, everything is literally double the cost or more on the M3 than on the 86
@ricepony33 Жыл бұрын
E46 is an appreciated asset as well, but it certainly won’t be trouble free.
@emerica21321 Жыл бұрын
Man you are in my head. I have a GR86 and I’ve very recently been considering buying an E46 too. Haha perfect vid and perfect timing!
@RearWheelZeal Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a BRZ with a small-turbo Honda K24 hybrid swap up front. That would elevate the 86's driving experience up above the M3 for my money.
@MotherViksChaat Жыл бұрын
My dad got a 6 speed manual BMW e46 M3 for $8000 in 2016 with 125,000 miles on it. It was a salvage title but the frame was fine and the rear subframe was reinforced. Talk about a steal! And I just got a 5 speed 330i for $1200 with 125,000 on it. If you know how to work on these cars and you don’t need it to be your daily, you can find some deals out there. People are scared to maintain them but it’s so easy
@LotiMcfloti Жыл бұрын
Damn these two are my dream cars. Except I want the GR86 instead of the BRZ.
@ashlandthedoberman9831 Жыл бұрын
As a first gen86 owner, the chassis is so capable. I put an Edelbrock on top of it. I thought the chassis would be overwhelmed, but it's amazing!
@jordanknopp5065 Жыл бұрын
Great review and video. I came from a '15 BRZ and currently own an '02 M3. Your comparison was spot on from what I remember of my BRZ!
@JFlogerzi Жыл бұрын
BRZ/GR86 any day of the week. Especially if you need a single car to do it all.
@CodySnell_87 Жыл бұрын
That clunking is usually the subframe tearing out of the unibody frame rails in the rear my e46 was really bad i ended uo getting rid of it. Its a common thing in e46s companies make reinforcement kits but its alot of work or money to pay someone to do it. I can say i have no regrets selling mine and now i have a 180sx with an sr20 black top and i am pleased with it on the street and the track.
@darksunrise8777 Жыл бұрын
Two amazing driver's cars! I've tracked my friend's S/C e46 M3 and the handling balance instantly reminded me of the 86. Playful yet super friendly. I told myself I'd take it easy with his car, but after a few laps I found myself pitching it into corners and countersteering on exit. So easy to get sucked into driving it hard. My gripes were the stock seats (way too slippery for track), slow steering and the vague shifter feel. It's a hard choice between the two, but I'd take E46M3 if doing more street driving and BRZ if doing more canyons/track use. Can't go wrong either way though.
@Marc-ty5sz Жыл бұрын
I love that you always have the most unique comparisons.
@jeffk91 Жыл бұрын
BRZ videos are the best!!!
@DoctorSoftie Жыл бұрын
I love 86 comparisons
@francoispeloquin4913 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a comparaison between the BRZ and Elantra N from you.
@MotherViksChaat Жыл бұрын
That clunking is the rear subframe. I’m sure someone has commented about this since all of us e46 lovers know about this. Hopefully your friend has gotten this fixed. You should always check this before doing anything else to the car.
@rathion2853 Жыл бұрын
"If clothes make the man then the engine definitely makes the car." This comparison really highlights something that is being more and more recognized lately as cars from these eras past become so desirable. A great chassis makes a great car and a great engine makes a legend. The S54 really punches high to be able to elevate a pretty heavy though capable car to something that leaves a lasting impression. The BRZ is hitting almost every box. It's modern, it's super rigid and super light, it's in the fun zone of wheelbase lengths, it's even NA. I'm curious if it really is just sound that's it's missing or if the drama of the S54 or a F20C comes from just that slight edge of boundaries being pushed. I think that if someone make an intake that took the FA24's induction noise up a couple notches, it would go a long way. Anyway, thanks for the video!
@freytheviking Жыл бұрын
Review the new 230i vs the BRZ! I’m seriously considering the 230i instead of the GR/BRZ.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Would love to if someone has one
@CubanDre Жыл бұрын
Great video! Can’t wait for that GT4 video!
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it might be delayed. Worth the wait!
@CubanDre Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene for sure. Enjoying the content in the meantime. Drove the ioniq at Manheim recently. Walked away super impressed. Best EV I’ve driven
@thinkingimpaired5663 Жыл бұрын
I would like them both, my pick M3 if long distance driving is a reality along with adverse weather. German cars seem to cut through downpours with ease and even through surprise standing water at midnight while traveling 90 plus. On long drives the BMW is less fatiguing. I used to carry spare parts and followed all PMs, ex If i remember correctly 75k radiator and water pump changes, etc. However the BRZ is a great modern car that a person can obtain brand new.
@Vgk36 Жыл бұрын
That on center issue is the guibo. Swap it for poly and it's night and day !💪
@AndyC3.0 Жыл бұрын
I drive a BMW Z4 M Coupe and there's no way that BRZ could keep up in a straight line or in the corners ,That BRZ is a performance car on a budget. You seem to have a lot more fun driving the BMW M3 then you did the BRZ.
@joeracer302 Жыл бұрын
Which one would you rather own and maintain, driving dynamics not considered? E46 can be a nightmare from maintenance/unscheduled-repair standpoint.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
A properly maintained and documented E46 should be a relatively good ownership experience, but as of right now, I'm a sucker for new cars with warranties
@RearWheelZeal Жыл бұрын
Have to agree that E46 ownership and running costs could be a real eye opener for people who have mostly been around late model Japanese cars and Mustangs. Vintage BMW M is a different world.
@CarsMeetsBikes Жыл бұрын
they're the same price to buy, but the cost to own is much lower on the newer car
@IS300Spartan Жыл бұрын
Not really, if you take into account depreciation. The M3 by comparison will probably gain in value, or at least keep it.
@PandaOnSkis Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Ive had the exact same question
@yhp99 Жыл бұрын
The biggest caveat of the e46 m3 is that (on top of the purchase price) you should be ready to spend another 10k or so to bring it back to life. Whereas the BRZ will most likely be worry free out the box. But if you are willing to spend the extra money to renew the e46m3, it rewards you.
@louvega8414 Жыл бұрын
Good vid, man. Keep up the good work.
@efrenpelayo9018 Жыл бұрын
Yup, clunking has to be my most improvement priority on the list currently, whatever is different from new is what i gotta figure out? Differential bearings?Thats what i want, the new feel. The steering is the steering coupler, my 330 needed it but my M3 doesnt, so yeah your test vehicle is sloppy. The weird rubber shifting? Yeah not my fave but worth having one lol. I was debating on selling mine but ran across this video. I think I'll keep it a lil longer. Theres a favorite 1/16th of a mile here on the way home from work that has a 90 then a 45 then a hairpin. My favorite time to test the vehicle. Good vid 👍
@Superkamikazee Жыл бұрын
@zygrene would you be able to review or compare a street / lightly track prepped s550 GT Mustang to the BRZ? Unusual comparison but it is one of the cars on my short list, GR86 is at the top. I need a car with a back seat, so the Mustang is one ive also considered. thank you
@NotThatSlow Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. For a track car, BRZ or a C5 Z06?
@lordmaster5522 Жыл бұрын
For $30K-$35K, there are plenty of options. S2000, Corolla GR-Four, 370Z, Camero SS, Mustang GT, STi, Z06, Exige, SLK55, and the list goes on.
@MasterResolve Жыл бұрын
e82 spanks the e46m3 for almost half the money. I have an n55 e82 with a hybrid tubro, fbo and e40 tune with sts XTA's, I'll be in the bay in 2023 if you have interest in a drive.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Sounds fun. Shoot me an email when you're here! Zygrene@gmail.com
@Executioner425 Жыл бұрын
To me it seems like the car needs alot of bushing upgrades.
@NCM89747 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had a canyon like this that wasnt two hours away.
@seb5945 Жыл бұрын
How much heavier is the M3's steering than the BRZ?
@oregonfelder1 Жыл бұрын
There was a saying I heard once: if you can’t afford a new BMW or Audi, you can’t afford a used one.
@stangtrax Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I enjoy the comparison as well.
@mirkotripic1752 Жыл бұрын
What kind of upgrades have you done to your biz?
@craigyirush3492 Жыл бұрын
That S54 is indeed glorious!
@alexandram9477 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison to the BMW Z3 M Roadster/Coupe - specifically the S52. I had one and stupidly sold it but I ended up missing it so much I got a BRZ!
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
It's hard to find Z3 M coupes nowadays. I'd love to film one.
@DC5Brandon Жыл бұрын
My dad had one a long time ago. Only drove it a few times, but I remember liking the clutch and shifter better in my stock (at the time) RSX, although it did have more torque.
@RearWheelZeal Жыл бұрын
@@DC5Brandon Too bad the Z3M can't quite make up for that mediocre shift feel by bringing nearly double the power, an excellent RWD chassis, timelessly stunning good looks, and one of the best soundtracks available from 6 cylinders. Oh well. Better luck next year Bavaria!
@DC5Brandon Жыл бұрын
@@RearWheelZeal 😉 Yep. the Z3 is a great car. My Cayman came with a lackluster exhaust, but it's still a great car.
@willw15647 ай бұрын
9/10 times the clunk is coming from the chassis structural floor specifically the contact points where the rear subframe cradle bolts to the chassis. Yes the car shears its self apart.
@GearheadSynthesis Жыл бұрын
Do an e36 m3! A well kept street car though, not the track prepped one you compared the rx8 and S2k to.
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
If someone has one, please contact me!
@GearheadSynthesis Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene I have but I’m in Dallas lol. Check out a guy named treatsonthestreets, I think he’s in your area.
@Edward1513 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate, may I know what pads and coilover you installed on your BRZ
@SavageBunny1 Жыл бұрын
The E46 M3 is not for someone living paycheck to paycheck, the BRZ you can get on payments with warranty.
@mperformance3502 Жыл бұрын
That m3 needs minor tweaks for sure. Headers for one if not already installed. C pillar, headlight trim, etc. That bucking, I had to replace my driveshaft to get rid of that.
@jsracs Жыл бұрын
So….. E46 M3 manual from factory 130k miles $23k VS Z4M convertible manual 32k miles $33k VS Brand new GR86 / BRZ $31k What’s your pick 😂
@youonlyliveonce2556 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget you have to reinforce the rear subframe in your E46 m3 if they haven't done it yet ,and that's a big issue for the E46 m3 , and btw I'm not so sure but I think I raced you on 405 north Fwy near century Blvd like a 2 months ago ,not so sure it was you butt I raced a BZR in my E46 😂
@johnmitchell2269 Жыл бұрын
The 2022 BRZ is the better sports car, but that doesn't really say or mean much, given the fact that the E46 M3 is not a sports car (that's the Z4m ). But I would personally rather daily drive the M3, as imo it's more of an all rounder. A really good comparison to your 2022 BRZ, would be with a new Z4 Sdrive 30i with the 2 litre turbo engine.
@vincentgao8839 Жыл бұрын
Just curious how the car rigidity between this 2 cars? Are the new jdm car can get close rigidity compare with 20 years old German cars?
@lemonone314 Жыл бұрын
Horrible example of e46 m3
@michaelelderkin2114 Жыл бұрын
Is that Mines Road? If so, one of top "canyon carving" roads...
@ryderwilson8413 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Have you had any issues with the rtv silicone in the engine and oil yet?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
No issues so far. Honestly I'm not too worried about it.
@universalrebel5034 ай бұрын
Do a s54 z4mcoupe vs supra
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын
These cars aren’t even close. The BRZ is a disappointment as the S2000 is/was a much more series and better car and engine (in fact the S2K had better engine, shifting, steering and suspension and chassis, maybe the brakes one could argue either way) and that is a car design of 22+ years ago. The E46 M3 is a step above an S2K, The weight is done with driver and fluids and 90% full tank, so it isn’t as heavy as the numbers tell you. The engine is a master piece, the piston speeds are insane on this engine (long stroke) and the ITBs are a rare item and show how serious BMW was about extracting every last ounce of HP out of the car. The BRZ is a detuned kids car by comparison. It’s cute, but until it gains another 100HP, no one will take it seriously. The downsides of the M? Vanos failure, sub frame cracks and SMG pump (I never considered an SMG anyway). Oh, and yes, the shifting isn’t as precise or bolt action feel as some of the best shifters out there, but it’s not horrible.
@nikkei325i Жыл бұрын
7:32 that clunk means the owner need new subframe bushings
@KiraOniiChan Жыл бұрын
Hey what's that phone mount that you have if you don't mind?
@clarencetrinidad9149 Жыл бұрын
Does this mean you're selling the brz for an e46 m3?
@antoniomossa6333 Жыл бұрын
How can you even compare a subaru to the BMW E46 M3?
@thelegendaryredx7710 Жыл бұрын
M3 ALL DAY Even 20 years later M3’s S54 great for what it is
@Fee.1 Жыл бұрын
Is that suspension weirdness typical with m3’s or something that can be fixed?
@ricepony33 Жыл бұрын
Not typical
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
It's an issue that arose from the manual conversion, according to the owner
@ravijotwani9286 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually just the way the coilovers are set up 🙂 It’s going to be a trial and error process to see what makes it feel better without having me rub in the front.
@Fee.1 Жыл бұрын
@@ravijotwani9286 oh so this is your car and it came about only after you got coils? I wonder what it would cost to just have a pro set them up flawlessly for you
@Fee.1 Жыл бұрын
@@Zygrene oh, that’s hard to understand, because it’s a very easy swap that shouldn’t effect that at all, i wonder if the shop lies or something Edit: oh I suppose maybe he had could put on while the swap was being done that would make more sense
@romachoz Жыл бұрын
228i/230i vs brz! Chip tuned to 320hp stage 1
@cyborgjoe1000 Жыл бұрын
A modified 330i would be better then both and cheaper especially after dealer markups and BMW Tax on the used market
@Vgk36 Жыл бұрын
That's what I have. Do the suspension sway bars tires and free flowing exhaust with a tune bam. Fun for days
@chicolean83 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see m2 competition
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
I compared an M2C against a Supra last year. Video on the channel
@patrickli1554 Жыл бұрын
Love your video! What is your wheel and tires setup for the brz?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
17x8+45 Enkei TS10 with 225/45R17 Kumho V730
@H4zZ4rDGaming1 Жыл бұрын
all things equal it's probably better of course. but this isn't equal, and that is what makes this comparison interesting. I think the BRZ wins this, all things as they are. you have a warranty, zero emergency maintenance, and it's lighter
@twobrotherscycleanda Жыл бұрын
M cars from that era have the best engines. In my opinion anyways. A screaming straight six with individual throttle bodies? Yes please. I had the E36 M3 and I currently have the 2013 FRS but if I had to guess The new car is probably closer to the e 36.
@dimos15 Жыл бұрын
That inline6 sound 🎉❤Can you do e36 vs e46 m3?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
This can be done!
@rg0 Жыл бұрын
ahh gotta love the classic M clunk
@Stephen-re4oy Жыл бұрын
“2-300lbs lighter” Sounds like you’d enjoy driving an S54 swap E36.
@aaaaachew Жыл бұрын
I have one (M3) and it’s effing fantastic!
@aaronfranulovich Жыл бұрын
E36 M3 is miles ahead of a brand new BRZ and those cars came out in 1995. Let alone an E46 M3. That new boxer engine comes from the factory about to blow up.😂
@kyle618 Жыл бұрын
Great comparo!
@DC5Brandon Жыл бұрын
Are you an owner who has some extra disposable income and the patience of a saint, or do you want a new Japanese sports car with reasonable cost of ownership and maintenance? The car should fit the type of owner you are. I don't have the patience anymore (currently dealing with an old RSX), so I would choose the BRZ, if all things were equal.
@Gshekela11 ай бұрын
That bmw is way lightweight compared to modern bmw and any sports coupe or sedan
@jbrandon302 Жыл бұрын
This guy needs a Miata or lotus. Low power, lightweight. For most of us power and comfort are important too and bmw is the better all around package.
@AFedosick Жыл бұрын
Got to disable that fake engine noise. Sounds so much better without it.
@arbeloss5205 Жыл бұрын
How much faster is the m3 in a straight line?
@Zygrene Жыл бұрын
Feels like roughly half a second quicker to 60mph based on the zybuttdyno
@GofundYour Жыл бұрын
NA Miata my Fav :)
@davidramez6219 Жыл бұрын
Value wise, the E46M3 will only go up in the years to come. The BRZ will only depreciate as a new car would.
@twoknightfall3722 Жыл бұрын
Next you will compare your mom with your wife . Don't worry one is almost 20years older .
@PLZU81Truth Жыл бұрын
Reliability I’m going with Subaru.
@michaelscurr9046 Жыл бұрын
There is no comparison really.
@boost331 Жыл бұрын
Japanese > German All day. Every day. $30k for that BMW will cost another $5k minimum for every year its on the road. Meanwhile the subaru will need gas and oil.