2023 Changes to Torque Codes 2023 NEC 110.14 (A) and (D) Terminal Connection Torque

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@louisdiambrosio6161
@louisdiambrosio6161 Жыл бұрын
Sparky thank you very much you do a great job of educating us. Your videos are among the best. Much appreciated.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
My pleasure Louis!
@garbo8962
@garbo8962 Жыл бұрын
About 6 years ago while attending a continuing education class the instructor asked how many of the 120 people attending owned a torque wrench. Less then 10% of us raised hands. Appears that you might have to own two small range torque drivers & two torque wrenches for large stuff. Reason for owning duplicate sets is you was told we should send them.out ever year to check calibration (send halve out the when they comeback send out the rest ). Tool & die shops that I have done electrical work I have to send out their micrometers every year to verify accuracy.
@vince6829
@vince6829 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@garydudgeon
@garydudgeon Жыл бұрын
Great video Sparky.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary!
@PacRimElectric
@PacRimElectric Жыл бұрын
Hi Bill! Great channel and topic thank you!
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@whitetiger8652
@whitetiger8652 Жыл бұрын
Great video Sparky!
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@muhammadgidado4544
@muhammadgidado4544 Жыл бұрын
Excellent 👌
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@erikkarling2176
@erikkarling2176 8 ай бұрын
Good video... definitely a necessary topic to discuss. I bought the Wiha a while back and love it. I didn't realize how far off i was until I started using it.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel 8 ай бұрын
I agree. I love my Wiha torque tool too!
@steveloux4709
@steveloux4709 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill! I purchased the Wiha unit earlier this year and am super happy with it. It didn't come with bits, but I was able to order those separately from the Wiha website, which was very convenient.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@MikeDolanFliss
@MikeDolanFliss Жыл бұрын
Suggestion! It'd be great if you covered your required PPE (boots, gloves, etc.) on some future video.
@Nahum17good
@Nahum17good Жыл бұрын
Funny how NEC wants every connection properly torqued, but they still allow stab lock devices to be used. They shouldn’t be allowed.
@JohnThomas-lq5qp
@JohnThomas-lq5qp Жыл бұрын
Years ago I ran #2 copper wires for two foreign made injection molding machines that had some vibration and ran 24/6. Had push in stab ins for the 480 volt wires. Told the tech doing start up that I did not want to use these POS He told me they work great. Yep first machine stab in connection burnt up in less then ten days and second set was hot & discolored.
@Gruntled2001
@Gruntled2001 Жыл бұрын
Bill, great video, as always. My Wheeler Firearms torque screwdriver (this is what I've been using for a while) says in the manual to turn to the **third** click, not the first. Is that different in Wiha and Wera? Also, my screwdriver manual says to set the torque setting to "0" torque when storing, so as not to ruin the calibration. Wonder what those two Germans say about that...
@warnieday
@warnieday Жыл бұрын
Great stuff man I always wondered what brands was out there
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DavidD-qr2vn
@DavidD-qr2vn Жыл бұрын
We use Wiha torque screwdrivers exclusively in production for torquing inserts in machining. Bill, they also make T-handle torque wrenches for higher torque screws/bolts but not sure if they offer them in 1000V insulated or not.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Great information, thanks!
@paulwheeless1080
@paulwheeless1080 Жыл бұрын
I've used a data sheet for each piece of equipment terminated listing the terminations and required values. It is where the torque wrench(s) and its calibration date and range are documented. Also handy to mark the terminal indicating those already torqued.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Excellent tips. Thanks Paul!
@besafe9
@besafe9 Жыл бұрын
For best overlapping ranges, I recommend Wheeler FatWrench for the low range (down to 10, 5 if you can find one) GearWrench for mid range, and whatever brand you prefer for the high range. All torque tools are less accurate in their low range.
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Great video, Bill. How come Klein tools or Ideal doesn't make a torque screw driver? And yes, this video was helpful. I've been eyeing that Milwaukee torque wrench too so maybe that's on my list for 2023.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron! Both companies make torque screwdrivers, but they are both quite expensive.
@sapreaper
@sapreaper Жыл бұрын
...and pray and hope these are calibrated and stay as such. I have one that I can barely torque to 36lb/in on a breaker. I know it must be way off
@knoxflyer101
@knoxflyer101 Жыл бұрын
Sparky....does a bathroom vent fan with light need to be on a dedicated circuit? What gauge wire? Jeff
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
They are normally a part of a lighting circuit which is typically 14 g but it can be 12 g if you like. The exception would be if you had a heater with the fan/light. Then it would be wise to run a dedicated 12 g circuit to it.
@MikeDolanFliss
@MikeDolanFliss Жыл бұрын
Question: can you explain why the ACDelco ARM601-3 3/8" Digital Torque Wrench is listed for "2 to 37 ft-lbs." but you're measuring 250 ft-lbs? Is it just certified for that lower range? How does that work?
@glasshalffull2930
@glasshalffull2930 Жыл бұрын
I think you confused INCH *pounds with foot*pounds. The tool was reading INCH*pounds.
@Aepek
@Aepek Жыл бұрын
I use the insulated Wiha and prefer it over the pistol grip wera. Other thing like about my wiha is the low profile bits can be used for there other multi bit screwdrivers which means don’t need to buy special bits for the torque driver as interchangeable from the low profile insulated bits from the other driver kits, pretty awesome, imo👍🏻 Cheers✌🏻
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a quality set.
@zerosparky9510
@zerosparky9510 Күн бұрын
i know a sparky. that he always over screwed down the wires under a breaker. told him to quick screwing down so tight. he probably still does this to this day. He would tighten them down and i would go back and of course the copper wires would be half cut through.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel 6 сағат бұрын
Yes, over-tightening will damage the wires or cables.
@mothman-jz8ug
@mothman-jz8ug 2 ай бұрын
I prefer one with adjusting collar like the torque wrenches have, such as my old SK. Reason? Having a separate tool to adjust the tool looks like the same problem as the chuck key for a drill - something to get dropped, misplaced, etc.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
that M-12 torque wrench is handy for Milwaukee users. It would be great if they made torque limiting driver tips, though. then you'd just carry the right set for your particular brand of panel.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Great point! I think that would be great!
@stevenpersinger6577
@stevenpersinger6577 Ай бұрын
I've never torqued anything in over 40 yrs. No failures and I'm not starting now. Just a way to sell more from big corporations
@allent555
@allent555 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video, Wiha has a torque T-Handle at higher settings though
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@eosjoe565
@eosjoe565 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised you can leave those screw drivers set to a specific torque value as with all other spring-style click torque wrenches you must turn the torque setting back to the minimum value prior to storage to preserve their accuracy.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
It would be best to do so IMO.
@tiggeroush
@tiggeroush Жыл бұрын
Receptacles and switches, depending on who the MFG is, require anywhere from 9 to 14 in-lb. That is, the ones I have looked up so far.
@Ariccio123
@Ariccio123 Жыл бұрын
Some higher end leviton receptacles say 14-18.
@tiggeroush
@tiggeroush Жыл бұрын
@@Ariccio123 I worked for them for 12 years as an electrician. Thanks for posting. That's worth a thumbs up.
@FM-Patriot
@FM-Patriot 2 ай бұрын
I saw testing on the Milwaukee torque wrench and it failed miserably on the accuracy of the torques settings
@WeatherNut27
@WeatherNut27 Жыл бұрын
Horrible a company cant come out with a useful design for us.. 1 doesnt screw well, one torques easier than the other, one is not insulated, one comes with a kit, one decides to have a loose key on the end. Crazy
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I think the best value of all of them is the ACDelco ARM601-3 3/8" Digital Torque Wrench (2 to 37 ft-lbs.), with Buzzer & LED Flash Notification - ISO 6789 Standards with Certificate of Calibration: Amazon: amzn.to/2ttNEsf But it can't do the whole range. You need a good torque screwdriver to go with it.
@dtemp132
@dtemp132 Жыл бұрын
Personally I use a 1/4” torque wrench with a bit adapter, does 10-150 in-lb. I use a click-style wrench but I’d get a digital one if I used it more often.
@MrClaudio
@MrClaudio Жыл бұрын
How hard is it to torque at 60 lb/in with the wiha?
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Very difficult. Use a torque wrench if you can for 60 lb/in.
@B5Blue1968
@B5Blue1968 Жыл бұрын
Bill, some of your links aren't working or going to the wrong item. Great video and explanation of 110.14
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! I went through and fixed the links. thanks for the heads up!
@B5Blue1968
@B5Blue1968 Жыл бұрын
@@SparkyChannel Bill, you're very welcome, everyone is talking about the 2023 code changes, and we're still on the 2017. Feel like we're being passed by....LOL
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
@@B5Blue1968 This way you'll know what's coming in about 6 years. 😃
@dallas5374
@dallas5374 Жыл бұрын
Where do you find the torque values?
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
It usually says right on the panel or device, or it is included in the manufacturer's specifications.
@besafe9
@besafe9 Жыл бұрын
You need 3 torque tools, low, medium, and high range. For ABB components, the OEM torque is much lower than tables. You want a low range of 10, even 5 in/lb.
@illestofdemall13
@illestofdemall13 Жыл бұрын
I have a similar Wiha set but it is 10-50 inch pounds.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
HI Kris! That's a nice one too.
@illestofdemall13
@illestofdemall13 Жыл бұрын
@@SparkyChannel Hi Bill. Yes, and I paid about 100 bucks on Ebay for it brand new.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
@@illestofdemall13 Wow, great price!
@jack_brooks
@jack_brooks Жыл бұрын
Wiha should put a reinforced hanging hole at the end of their driver big enough that you can stick the torque set tool through it. Then you could use it like a T-handle screwdriver without any other complexity.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Good thinking. It is quite difficult to torque 50+ in/lbs. with the Wiha. Something like that might help.
@glasshalffull2930
@glasshalffull2930 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking a flip-out handle, but a hole works fine!
@johnsee7269
@johnsee7269 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate your wise council on compliance with the NFPA NEC but ... When I heard you say, "I was screwing it hard"; well, some with their minds in the gutter (not me mind you) might misinterpret that; you know how people are 😮. 😂
@johnwalker890
@johnwalker890 Жыл бұрын
Good job Sparky Bill, Teach the rookies how to do it, put them in school.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@johnbushur6080
@johnbushur6080 Жыл бұрын
The wiha is a nice bit of kit, but every time I torque something with it i think something broke…
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
I understand.
@meawreg
@meawreg Жыл бұрын
love the code change videos, unfortunately Hawai'i Masters Electricians license is based off the 2008 code... just want to bring light to that,
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Interesting! So you'll be changing to the 2011 NEC for 2023? That's a big change, because of neutrals being necessary in switch boxes starting 2011. It's OK though, you'll know what is coming up for you in later years.
@rublar75
@rublar75 Жыл бұрын
The Wiha kit is almost $300!!
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is. I bought it and it stung, but I've never regretted it.
@Paine137
@Paine137 4 ай бұрын
Buy once, cry once.
@besafe9
@besafe9 Жыл бұрын
You did the large neutral lug wrong, and violated standards. The torque is limited to a range of 90 - 100% of spec. You cannot go over. That particular torque tool should have been set to 245 to prevent going over 250.
@waytospergtherebro
@waytospergtherebro Жыл бұрын
Is this the part of the day where we pretend that any of these devices are that precise or that you have any idea what you're yammering about?
@MrTooTechnical
@MrTooTechnical Жыл бұрын
Fuking awesome
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@hezaswellguy2734
@hezaswellguy2734 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommend the insulated tool for non live terminations it would get dirty and fail faster. Best to keep it clean and out of reach till needed. I also wouldn't recommend the electric torque tool because if the battery is dead you affectively don't have a torque tool. I say these things based on doing service work for 25 years.
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, good advise!
@MrJose123704
@MrJose123704 Жыл бұрын
Doable with harbor freight torque wrenches right? 😂
@SparkyChannel
@SparkyChannel Жыл бұрын
I would say yes, but don't expect the same durability as the bigger name brands.
@NGinuity
@NGinuity Жыл бұрын
They actually tested the digital torque wrenches on Tools Tested a few months ago (watch?v=0_fun-C-p7E) and Project Farm (watch?v=HP4uECoH8cc) did a non-digital test back in December. The Icon that HF sells fared pretty well in the manual department and Quinn did well in the digital realm. These were an ft-lb test though, their in-lb line might not be as good. I can't stand Harbor Freight, but they do have their niches where the value and quality are on par with each other This is one.
@zornob1439
@zornob1439 26 күн бұрын
Be careful with that Milwaukee on live terminals. The manual says not to use on live circuits. And don't be fooled about quality just because a company is German, for a fact many top German brands (Knipex etc.) job out tons of work to Taiwan / China etc. and even rebrand tons of Taiwanese designed and mfged tools shown in their catalogs (that you can buy the exact same tool under a different brand name for less - look through catalog & you will clearly see especially in wire stripping tools). And btw that Whia is only accurate to -/+ 6%. My ratcheting in. lb. Tekton is accurate to -/+ 4% and is 1/4 the cost. The Whia also can not be calibrated, you have to send it in and they sell you a new handle + shipping - (fact, just call them).
@sherrischneider2794
@sherrischneider2794 Жыл бұрын
Too much control over these screws. Just use common sense and tighten them. Can't tell the difference between 5 inch lbs and 10 in lbs
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