Honda over Kia all day. Not even close. Reliably and resale, Honda and Toyota always win

I have a 2011 Pilot that I've owned for 11 years. Best vehicle I've ever owned. It is getting a little long in the tooth and I want to go with Honda again but was really disappointed with the redesign of 2016-2022. It looked like a minivan of sorts and not "truck-like" or rugged. Then the 2023 redesign came along....hallelujah!! The rugged "boxy" look is back!! The new Pilot is definitely in my future!

I have a 2007 Honda Pilot w 355k miles on it. Still going strong w no major issues. Planning on getting this new 2023 model. It’s dependable and durable. Just keep up w the regular maintenance and you won’t have any issues.

Honda has done a good job. The Trailsport trim will appeal to people who want occasional off-roading instead of a Bronco or 4Runner, but at the same time be a great daily driver.

The Pilot for me! I love the trims with the removable middle seat. That’s what did it for me. That, and the fact that I’ve owned the same Honda for 14 years with zero issues. It’s such a reliable car (CR-V). Going by looks alone, I prefer the exterior of the Pilot and interior of the Telluride.

Wait ! What ?! The Legendary Honda Pilot has come back from the past with a new look ! Unlike the "mall finder" of 2016-2022 , thank you, Honda . So far , so good

Honda gave us what we needed for that middle seat.😊

Always cool reviews ...car gurus !!

I had an 08 Pilot and I really liked it. Got totaled by a bad UPS driver or I’d still have it. I haven’t liked any iterations of the Pilot until this one came out. I’ll be in the market soon and this will be on my list. I dig the new look.

Ok as a 10 year technician no pathfinder, telluride will be good for 100k miles, this Pilot is a game changer. Also don’t take a pilot off-roading.

13:50 "Prices start around $27,000" - I believe you meant to say $37,000.

My choice: 1. Pilot (because the middle seat can be removed) 2. Telluride 3. Grand highlander (it has smaller 3rd row than the above 2). Runner-ups: Palisade Atlas (super unreliable but I had it on my list)

This feels like when people have to pick between a Traverse and Acadia. We just wanted an Element.

The small screen size is not a deal breaker but how can the Honda Accord be available with a 12" screen and the Pilot can't? That doesn't make any sense.

I like the Kia and Nissan but I would pick the Honda over them for one thing and that the middle row with that stowaway middle seat. Nice and it give me the choice of normal second row or captain seat and I like that.

Excellent review. Not yet ready to trade in my 2018 Pilot, but when I do, the off-road looks deeeecent.

2023 Pilot is better for bigger families (4 kids) than the Telluride. More space in the middle seats. Also the removable seat is sweet and comfortable to sit in. We just bought the Elite version and we love it.

Design is much improved other than rear end view. A bit softish there.

Excellent review! Thank you.

My wishlist for this Pilot: a traditional shifter and a hybrid version. With this said I look forward to the review of the Mazda CX90 next week especially the PHEV version. The winner here is definitely the consumers😊

Thank you. This was informative.

I have always been a Ford guy but in looking at the '23 Explorer, to get one equipped the way I'd like it tops close to $70k. Sorry, but Ford has priced itself out of the running. I then looked at a Telluride X-PRo. I am a camper and like the ruggedness but have never had a Kia. Then I looked at the Pilot. Prior to having 2 Explorers and an Edge I had 2 different Accord EX's. Nice, solid, and fun to drive cars so I am sold on Honda engineering. The Piloit TrailSport has everything I'm looking for. Ruggedness and driveability, solid engineering (NA v6 no turbos), and the reputation of Honda for reliability. I'm going to buy a TrailSport within the next 60 days.

I'm sure the Telluride clicks most of the boxes for a great 3-row SUV, but I REFUSE to pay $8-$10K over MSRP for any vehicle! Are you listening, KIA?

Are there side airbags for the 3rd row? Any crash data for the 3rd row?

Great review.

I go for the Pilot if u plan on keeping it a long time. Game Over. I go the Sport or lower models because I'm like many who don't have 50K,

One part forgotten in all this is the dealer. I live in a town with one dealership each of Kia and Honda with the next closest being over an hour away. Hands down the Honda dealership where I live is better with service and customer care, with the Kia known for bad overall service. Even if I was leaning Kia based on the vehicle, I would still go Honda due to the dealership.

Max 9" infotainment for the top trim is a major omission for a 50K car. Honda better address it in the mid model refresh

What road course is that?

Someone explain why I need an over-sized iPad control panel in the middle of my dash? I like that it’s not 12” like the Highlander. What I don’t like is the lack of technology on the “iPad” when I’m paying $10k more than an Odyssey for a top trim and even the gas mileage is worse than the van.

The front looks good, the back looks great, the third row windows look utilitarian in a Toyota 4Runner way, instead of Euro sleek.

Since I want off-pavement performance, the Pilot Trailsport dominates.

I have the 2023 EX-L in red and really like it. The only complaint I have is that acceleration in the ECO driving mode is a little jerky. Less so in the other modes. Only 500 miles in, but that is the only complaint I have. Otherwise very pleased with the new Pilot.

The pilot just need the screen in the new accord or bigger and it would of been a hit in my book. I think the refreshed Kia Telluride interior is better.

Omg I have a 2006 and I have HATED all the generations after, but this one finally looks like mine but newer. In a few years I might actually upgrade!

At 7:23, the video shows a full digital cluster while discussing the Trailsport. Is that correct? I believe the Trailsport has a partial digital cluster, and only the left side cluster is digital.

Bro I feel like to sell my current 2019 pilot and get this one. May I know when will it be in the UAE market

honda pilot trailsport because the inside is very detailed and you showed me that it can dominate any trail

I always thought I might like a Telluride, but I went to a Kia lot to see one and was disappointed with the look of it in person. My first thought was "can I see a newer one" and was shocked to see I was looking at a 2023 model. I'm very excited about the new Pilot Elite (current 2016 elite owner) and am planning to upgrade. My only thought is it worth to wait for 2024 to see if they bump the screen size and iron out any quirks??

Great review. I’d go for the Honda due to the resale value

No Fish Gutting? I was waiting for that scene! 😅

Unrelated but your shades, I want them. Jus sayin. Very good suv and as always excellent review.

I will take a Honda over a kia anyday😉

Beautiful and handsome SUV. Very rugged and boxy!! Good job Honda. I will buy this over the Telluride in a heart beat! You get Hondas legendary reliability, more masculine design and the fact that they've made a version of this that can go off road with skid plates. It's a no brainer! I'm still not sold on Hyundai and KIA vehicles. Until they figure out why there cars keep catching fire and the fact that teenagers can steal there cars in less than 20 seconds (Tiktok challenge) no way!!!!!! I remember Hyundai and KIA when they first came to the USA, and they were pure junk. Hondas have always been good cars since the beginning.

I would have to go with the new pilot it looks better in my opinion than the telluride. I have 2004 pilot have had it since new and it has 204k and not a single problem. So pilots a win for me

They need to release hybrid version

Biggest miss is no digital rear view mirror. At least have that as an option. But overall really good, tough to choose between this and Telli

Yes, i love the more rugged looking...

Looks solid. Sat in one, a bit smaller than last gen. Went with 2 row...how often do people use third row?

Pilot trail sport 💯 just left their dealer in Pasadena. Much better in person 👍

Hi can you please post a video On Kia telluride I wanted to compare it work the pilot

Why doesnt the third row driver side have lower anchors?

Just bought a Pilot Elite, and it's excellent!

The new AWD system makes it fun to drive. Granted it is a SUV and a couch on wheels, but it keeps you planted. Other reviewers say it rides, handles and brakes better than Toyota and KIA. Only wish, they put the power tilt/telescoping steering wheel in the Elite. I can live without it to get a better driving experience.

Why did Honda copy the rear end of the Subaru Ascent? It's almost like the front doesn't match the back. The stowable center seat from the middle row is great.

Starting twenty seven thousand? Where do I sign up for that sweet deal?

What about the gear shift, still an outdated push button?

The pilot trailsport is my next 3row fam suv

It seems that tow hitch is only available on the trail sport.

Engineering Excellence

It went back to the 1997 style 🙂

That's s oughta help my car review obsession

I want to see a Honda Pilot vs Toyota Highlander direct comparison video.

Telluride certainly have more tech and luxury features but Honda's AWD with torque vectoring blows kia out of the park. Pilot has the same SH-AWD that you get in Acura and the drive quality is way better. Surprised how this review lacks technicality and seems like am everyday Joe picking cars.

Good Review. Thx. Honda over Kia EVERY time

Does the engine have a timing chain or belt??

Honda way over Kia. My wife just bought the new one. It's the Elite model. Higher resale value.

The Pilot would be my choice because the Honda drivetrains and interior pieces are reliable. The Honda dealers are as good as any.

I like the new look.

Honda has built their reputation over a long period of time. They deserve such praises but it is too a fact that Korean twins deliver more than what you pay for compared to what competitors do at a given price and their low quality reputations are also in the past. I will take either of them just fine.

How is the front seat for tall drivers ?

Pilot and passport are designed just for very light off road. In my opinion I still love the 2022 model. If you want to go off road get a Jeep lol . Off road for rough road

Great review. Now, let's be realistic.....how many people are taking their $50K SUV off-road? NOBODY! Is this Honda pilot a Telluride killer? They are both so similar. I think Honda will have a better resale value than KIA, but KIA offers a better new warranty 10/100K vs 3/36. When Mazda releases the CX-90, this will go head to head. Honda's reliability will sell more of these than the Telluride. When the Telluride launched, it came in very affordable, now because of its popularity, the dealers are gauging customers by adding a dealer markup of $5-$10K!

Honda, when will you get rid of the stupid VCM technology and auto start/stop?

Is this engine gdi?

maybe they make something that is not just adequate they would get new people buy them . owned lots of hondas but need more power maybe make it fun to drive lots of money

I'm really good with the new Pilot. I liked the previous Pilot but they just didn't look rugged enough, I guess I like the boxier look, going back to the 1st and 2nd gen Pilots. This newest Pilot is a great styling direction. I would definitely choose Honda over the Palisade/Telluride twins. The luxury appointments of the Koreans are very nice but not enough for me to not choose the Honda.

I love the exterior look of the Honda Pilot better than the Kia Telluride. But reliability is the #1 priority for me. And both vehicles have high marks in reliability.

I have an ‘07 Pilot with 243,000 miles. She’s still going strong, but if and when she’s done serving her time I’m definitely looking at one of these

🤣🤣🖐 1:05 …”plastic fender that might come in handy for off roading..” 😂 it will snap off in 5 seconds! Less than 1% of drivers use their suv or pickup off roading. But they might. 😂🤣 good review overall !!

They need to offer more engine options, every other manufacturer is giving V8s(Nissan Patrol) or V6 twin turbo (Toyota Land Cruiser)

I'm about to purchase a brand new 2023 Honda Pilot EX-L exterior color Obsidian Blue Pearl.....interior color gray leather. Kia and Hyundai is trash. Nuff said. Good review.

Front looks like the explorer

The previous Pilot looked like a lifted minivan. This one looks better but Honda could've done more with the styling in my opinion. It looks very plain and appliance like if that makes sense

Nice.

Not a tough choice when you consider Honda is way more reliable than a Kia that more than likely won't make it over $60,000 miles without having a problems major problems

Looks like a 2nd gen boxy Pilot with the body colored c-pillars and squared windows.

Pilot with no hesitance

Great review! I agree with you about the info screen being relatively small by todays’ SUV standards. Unfortunately Honda, a company that once lead the way is once again woefully behind in not offering a Hybrid (as Toyota has done for years with the Highlander) let alone other EV variants. This, to me is indicative of Honda’s total lack on innovation and bone-headed moves over the last 10 years. Not having a viable hybrid line (compared to Toyota) is one example, another is when they discontinued the Crosstour. I had a 2012 Crosstour (leased) and I really liked it. Yes the cargo area was hampered by the antiquated strut-towers, but overall it was a great design. And just when they got rid of it in comes similar hatchback sedans from BMW, Mercedes, Audi and others (and really the Teslas) all have which are still around and sell reasonably well. I have leased seven Hondas since 2002. Two Accords, two Acuras, two Pilots (my current a 2020) and a 2012 Crosstour which I really liked. I also had a 2017 Chrysler Pacifica which was excellent and the most versatile vehicle I ever had. When the lease was up on that in summer of 2020 Honda had some great deals. I looked at the Odyssey but the fact yips still have to lug out the 2nd row seats to enlarge the cargo space (unlike the wonderful stowaway seats of the Pacifica) I passed and got a Pilot. It’s a solid SUV, but again nothing that really stands out. The gas mileage is woeful though and there’s a lot of highway wind noise. I am glad they going back to a more rugged design but unless they get a hybrid by next summer when my lease expires I’m off to Toyota for a hybrid Highlander.

Pilot hols residual value if you finance a KIA even after three years you owe more than its worth Hond all athe way

Naturally aspirated Honda V6 suv...Yes please

The Telluride has the better interior but I am still not sure about Hyundai/Kia quality when it comes to their engines and transmissions. The narrator did not mention the Toyota Highlander either. The Highlander looks like it may have more interior tech and comfort than the Honda and we all know that Toyota makes a quality product also. If I were to pick one for conveniences, comfort, and options, I would pick the Palisades $52K that would blow this Honda away. Reliability would make me leant towards the Highlander and the Pilot. Nissan isn't even in the hunt for me as they have had massive problems with their quality under their parent company.

The acronym is “SUV” not eshuvee. Otherwise great review.

This pilot is actually very good looking. Honda's are growing old and needed new blood.

THIS PILOT TRAIL UNIT IS PRETTY HOT ! AND I REALLY LIKE THE V-6 ENGINE , HONDA WAS EXTREMELY SMART TO NOT USE A TURBO 4 CYLINDER ENGINE . THE HIGHWAY UNIT REALLY IS NICE SO IT WOULD BE A TOUGH DECISION , TO SAY THE LEAST !.

Nice

so the accord civic and pilot all have to same dash. hmmm....

I think the Telluride interior is way more luxurious, though I haven't been inside the Pilot myself (I have been in the Telluride.)

This is weird! The starting price is $27k? Isn't that the starting price of their smallest SUV?

You have to take the name into account and by far Honda takes over the Tellluride