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I had Atlas Pinnacle installed 2 years ago using your Directorii...The Shingles look like they are just installed...they are beautiful. The roofer did a great job.

Atlas Stormmaster class 4 is great. After a recent hail event in June 2023, roofers were backed up with work, materials hard to get, and the home owners with Atlas StormMaster class 4 just watched the chaos all around them. Roofers were checking out my 2008 roof from all sides, and I'll bet they were wondering what it was. There was'nt a mark on it, while those all around me were a mess. To put up anything but class 4 in my area is just plain nuts.

Thank you So much! Today's date is 6/23/2023. I Lived in Parker Co. (80134) The last major Hail storm over a week ago destroyed my Cedar Shake Roof, Waiting on the insurance check and searhing for a Roofing company for my new roof. Great INFO!!!!

I am getting about 8 or 9 estimates last week and this week. A couple more to go but so far the Malarkey Vista is the go to for most of the companies. With O. C. duration a close 2nd.

Great video. I wish all the brands were represented but it’s clear why they were omitted. GAF and CTeed are solid brands with good products. I hope Malarkey expands their distribution

I appreciate your time and effort. We were heavy users of GAF but have started using OC more and more. OC quality control seems more consistent on things like even lines and no small pieces of material left on the edge of some of the shingles. That small piece of material is a rhythm buster when you have to stop and rip it off. Thanks and keep on analyzing for us.

Every year we look forward to the shingle guide. We strive to bring the best products and options to our clients and this guide has been a regular part or our sales process. The reason it has been powerful is because it has been a true, first hand test of the shingles, in an honest and transparent way, with all parties invited to the table. We have always appreciated Dmitry and Roofing Insights efforts into making the industry better, and have modeled a lot of our business on your recommendations and advice.... However I am disappointed in this years guide. I feel that in past years, your guide has been transparent and contractor/consumer focused. This year, the guide is vague, and feels more like a product and installer pitch or promotion than a true test of the shingles on the market. Based on the past work we have seen from Roofing Insights, I would like to believe that the due diligence was done but I believe Roofing Insights would agree, that the proof is in the pudding. We got to see none of the testing, or know any of the criteria/benchmarks. If Tamco was garbage, why didn't we see why? In the past, contractors and manufacturers have been invited to the testing to ensure that it was fair and impartial. Did this happen this year? If so, why didn't we see it? Where is GAF? I don't install it, but it's one of the most popular brands on the market... why was it excluded? If it was excluded because it didn't meet the minimum standard, shouldn't we know this? If you didn't include them because they told you not to, shouldn't this be in the guide? Hopefully this years guide was an honest assessment, but I will not be able to use this years guide as a part of our process or a trustworthy resource because it's not transparent and that is who we are as a company. We use some of the top rated shingles discussed in this "assessment" and have had this guide to back our choices in the past with real world proof that our clients could see for themselves. I guess I just have to take your word for it. I'll see how that approach flies with my clients.

I LOVE your reviews, Dmitri. But it would be a real service if you after each one you would flash a map showing what regions (or markets) the finalist shingles are available. Thanks!

Thanks for the video. Helpful!

I actually learned something from this video. Good job.

IBHS rated the Owens Corning Duration FLEX #1 overall out of 9 total "storm" shingles for hail. I have installed over 25k squares. It is an amazing product and my profitability per job has risen over 8%.

what happened to certainteed? and when did IKO come out of the bottom group of shingles?

First time putting a roof on a home. Thanks for the information.

Thank you for all this information. I am going to be getting quotes soon for roofing and feel prepared to ask the right questions.

Another killer video!

Great info... happy for the shingle rating by name, brand and class. Thank you!

Can’t wait!!

Thank you for your insight and rating information on the various roofing shingles. In the process of having to replace my roof. In 2022 we discovered a mold situation in the attic. Our insurance company would not approve the claim because they said the roof shingles were not properly installed. So we hired a mold remediation company come out to remove the mold and were told we needed to improve ventilation in the attic to prevent it from coming back. We installed 2 attic fans, also had a roofer come out and do the cut out for the ridge vent which apparently was not properly done in 2005 when we doubled the size of our home. We also had to install ventilated soffits because the ones that were installed during the construction were not the vented type. We have had an occasional leak but the use of roofing caulk in certain locations sealed the issue. Now we are having to replace the roof shingles. Have only had one company rep come out and the estimate is almost $16,000 for GAF Timberline HDZ. Honestly I do not want to use Timberline since that is what I currently have (Timberline HD 30 year warranty) and I have had issues with it. I am in NJ so not sure if I can get Malarkey out here or if it is even in my price range as we will have to pay out of pocket. I am also considering Certainteed Landmark or Grand Manor and Owens Corning Duration or Oakridge. What is your opinion? Again I don't know if any of these lines are available in my area. Most homeowners here use Timberline or Tamko and I don't want either. Wish me luck!!!

I have class 4 Atlas StormMaster. It has survived baseball size hails. Wonderful! Is it discotinued?

The only reason GAF shingles exists today is due to their purchase of Elk nearly 20 years ago. I managed a roofing supply yard in central California from 2002 to 2014 our most successful line had been the Elk and Malarkey lines. By 2006 , after the GAF change and offering other lines such as Certainteed, Iko and feedback from other yards in the corporation I worked for, I decided to only supply one brand of shingle, Malarkey. I received fantastic support from the roofing contractors , no one felt limited in their offerings, obviously buying power allowed all of us to benefit, availability was never an issue during any of the early decades asphalt shortages. We took a unique marketing approach that served us all very well during the downturn of 06 thru 09. Home owners would come by to inquire regarding products and when asked my opinion, I would show them my stock, affirming that we belived so strongly in its quality that we would not support another brand. Saying no to other lines was actually very easy, especially as time went by. Malarkey brand shingles were very well designed, manufactured and supported, in that period, more advanced in their design and function. I would like to add that Malarkey was if I am remembering correctly, the last to market their shingles under the " lifetime" warranty con job that occurred in the 10s. Also the 3 bundle math was, is, a joke that continues apparently to this day. 4 bundles per square is simply more honest. Very good presentation by you. Thank you.

Thank you sir for keeping it real.. I'm going through the process now getting a replacement in the Atlanta GA market... You have help me tremendously and I want too say thanks.....

I wish Malarkey was in our market!

The biggest thing to me is service behind the shingles. I had an approved warranty claim for Malarkey that we repaired 10 months ago. Still haven't been paid and continuously receiving the runaround. I have literally signed the same papers 3 times and still nothing

Great to see how high you ranked malarkey. We recently switched from another product to malarkey

What do you recommend for a NC roof prone to algae/mold/mildew due to tree and shade cover?

What type of shingles would you recommend for south Florida

thanks for your insight

Only install Dynasty . Love it . But I agree. Absolutely hate the open wrappers lol

I have an interesting background on this. Used to work in Supply and worked for IKO. I still use IKO and have sold all the other brands on Supply side. Now that I’m on roofing side I will say the following without bias: GAF and Tamko are miserable. OC is a good product but sometimes difficult, all depends on rep for your territory. Certainteed, love the product when it goes right but is very inconsistent and mainly only use on full system when large amounts flintlastic are used. I hated selling against Atlas Pinnacle Pristine when with IKO and it’s my number 2 shingle behind IKO Dynasty. #opinion #nomalarkyinSE. On atlas: why farm out to 3m?

Thank you for the informative video. What do you think of GAF products? including the solar panels that are integrated into the shingles. Thanks.

I just got into the market because of home owners ins because of the age of the roof which was installed in 06 and it was gaf shingles but a lot of these vendors I've never heard of maybe because i live in Tampa bay and it's hard to make a decision on product also a contractor you just don't know and I've looked up all the contractors online and researched them to the best of my ability.

Great informative video, I was wondering which brand would you go with for people living in Texas ??

Hi There, I live in Oregon, I have a house in the Portland Area, and a couple years ago I installed the Malarkey Vista, Great Product. I also have a house on the Oregon Coast, "Beach Front" . I have been contemplating which product to use. It was between OC and Malarkey Legacy. The Malarkey will be slightly more expensive, but I also believe that it will be a better product for the environment. Giving that the house is beach front with High Winds and Tormented by Mother Nature. Thanks for your Video.

Looking for your recommendation on cool roof shingles that are still priced close to regular shingles? Looking for my HOA in TN.

In western idaho where we dont get alot of hail compared to other states. We use duration because we do get alot of high winds and duration does phenomenal in high winds. But if i was in a state where there is alot of hail id go with flex without hesitation

Hello, Question for you. I installed class 4 shingles on my roof but the ridge caps and hips a non rated shingle was used called RizerRidge. I was told it's more durable than any standard shingle and not to worry. What are your thoughts on this? I do get hail sometimes here in TX. Thanks

Great post - thanks. Bob in Nevada

It is interesting to see how popular shingles are in the US. Here in Europe they are very popular for garden sheds. However, for houses we still use roof tiles. They last about 40 to 50 years. However, I can imagine that of you are in a tornado area, you dont want concrete roof tiles flying around.

What are your thoughts on Euroshield Rubber Roofing?

I bought Malarkey Legacy, due to this recommendation, and others. I love it, but i got mine installed when it was too hot, and there are blemishes like roofer foot prints. If i had it to do over, i would have did it when the roof was cooler.I would have paid whatever, to have them work till noon or so. Im hoping the Oklahoma summer heat smooths it out. Otherwise, i have to do some repairs. I will love that rubber mix when the hail comes, but its stressing me right now.

Im looking at Atlas vs OC. Am i missing something? From what from what i read they rated the same with wind etc. I was also told they also have the same sure nail stuff but maybe not a strip that says it. Why did you rate Atlas higher but want to OC on your house? Just cuz its 2" wider?

Malarkey Highlander or OC Duration best bang for your buck. If I had a nice house and was rich I would go OC Flex.

Just found your channel, Love it! Would like to see more on Pacific Northwest (wet) environments, and more recommendations farther up north of Portland, Oregon (Southern WA State here). Thanks!

Dmitry I had a question. You give Atlas credit for less waste but I thought there coverage was 98 and change vs IKO at 100.05 and Malarkey at 100.33. You just take the length of the shingle x the exposure x the number of shingles on a square and divide by 144.

What about when it como to time to put a manufacturing direct claim? Here in Louisiana thy refuse to pay warranty claim with a blister biger the 1/2”spot showing fiberglass

How did Certainteed rank this year? Considering a variety of their products.

You should start looking into copper content in the shingles. They all look great outta the wrapper - but how will they look after being installed for 5 years? 10 years?

Thoughts on GAF? Thank you

Dimitri, here in Southern California, we need to know about granule loss drying out and wind. Can you advise your recommendations on this?

Wish I had Malarky in my market of Canada. My roofer is suggesting GAF Timberline. What are your thoughts? Thanks!

I live in Delaware. Need to have my roof replaced. What brand/manufacturer do you recommend ? Thanks

IKO all day here!

Great video! What do you think about Pabco brand specifically Pabco Prestige? Thank you

I had roof replaced with malarkey in California. I recommend it. Thanks.

In the North Alabama market, we use IKO Dynasty/Nordic and highly recommend it over other brands as we have use several in the past! We also have similar pricing as the Atlanta market and are able to offer class 4 roofs at very great rate!

I was just quotes Malarkey shingles...I keep hearing good stuff about them.

We live in Los Angeles, any one used CertainTeed presidential tl shingles? Can you please review this brand.

The bundle end closed does not keep the water out one of the reasons I dislike the Atlas packaging is that the end of the package is closed and it traps the water inside the bundle so like in the winter time, a lot of the bundles will be frozen together because the water can’t drain out and it becomes a problem when installing you can’t get the shingles apart

I'm not actually sure though this is just a guess but I do know when I open a sealed certainteed bundle. They they look like they have been deteriorating for ten years already

I would love for videos on underlayment they keep pushing these synthetics in a perfect world ventilation etc I keep asking for 30 lb certified felt for permeability

I thought IKO was contractors grade only suitable for a Dog House. And nothing for Certainteed Landmark Pro???

Next year please consider Atlas Pinnacle IMPACT. Much cheaper than StormMaster and still Class 4. The Pinnacle Pristine is also a Class 3 and they are less expensive than some of the bigger brands. Thanks for the great videos.

Wow I wish you would just come to idaho and do my roof. I don’t even know where to start. Is covering by insurance because of the weather damage but this is a lot🤦🏻‍♀️

Owens Corning refuses to even publish MSDS with component percentage ranges, as other makers still do.

I've done 2 Million in malarkey in the past year and I'm still waiting for a check from my last claim that was started March 2021. Excuse after excuse. I've heard the check is in the mail so many times. And it's only for $2900... Everytime I see the rep he just wants to tell me about the trip he wants to take me on to the factory to get drunk and go to strip clubs but won't get the warranty done. Maybe it's because we are in Canada and they don't care but I'd highly recommend using someone else

From these brands, what would be recommended to use for the midwest, living in Illinois.

can someone provide a list of Class 3 shingles? I didn't know there was a discount - Class 3 shingles.

What do you think about GAF and Certainteed? Thx

Thanks for the video! What are your thoughts regarding warranties comparison? Malarkey 10yrs, but CO offers 50 years

Malarky stopped reporting their shingle weight on the tech data sheet in 2018-19, the highlander used to be 245lb/sq. Now it’s 205. Funny how all the shingle maker have an entry level shingle at 205#/sq. And the all raise prices simultaneously and aggressively while asphalt is dropping. Federal Trade Commission needs to investigate for price fixing.

I'm surprised Certainteed didn't make your list. Very informative though. Do you look at future durability and blistering as a metric when rating your shingles?

You should add Certainteed Landmark.

Please share complete list which includes lesser expensive or known brands like CertainTeed or GAF Timberline HDZ.

Your OC DUration is 20 years old? Love your channel sir, but Duration wasnt available in 2003.

Lets goooooooo!

Curious why if malarkey is your favorite why it’s not on-your roof instead of oc duration ?

I take it you no longer consider Malarkey Highlander AR in the top like before? It is supposed to be rated class 3 now

Well I have my bullet proof vest on : I live in Los Angeles county and CODE here wants not only title 24 , it has to be Timberline HDZ RS+ the only color that matches the front and garage is Stone Gray Plus. Lowes and Homedepot do not show it on their web sites , so my headaches begin .

Can you make an SBS Class 4 shingles review including Atlas, Malarkey, IKO, Owens Cornings, CertainTeed, and GAF Timberline AS II

Comment below what you think about new format!

You really HAVE changed things up, I can see that. You've gone from testing them, to having us just take your word for it. 🤷‍♂

I have received estimates for what I perceive is the same job on the same roof ranging from $35,000 all the way to $75,000. And it makes me wonder what’s going on. Anyone else experienced this?

Do you have any recommendations for the best shingle and underlayment products for noise reduction through the roof? (Think airplane flyovers.) My understanding is that this is a situation in which thicker and heavier materials are going to perform better. -Heavy architectural asphalt shingles with plenty of overlap. On underlayment, I see it as plausible that a 30 lb Felt underlayment could be best for noise reduction, but there are thicker, heavier synthetic underlayments, too... I'm in the Seattle area so water is a real problem, which makes me think felt is a bad choice, but are there other underlayment products that should be good at reducing noise?

No gaf products?

So living here in Houston, and working for a roofing contractor; why hasn't there been a shingle revolution in terms of reflective capability?

Lmao! The packaging!

Why no CertainTeed?

I haven’t been able to find any distributor that sells malarkey or contractors certified in malarkey in NJ

IKO Dynasty has been doing great for us, we definitely sell the OCs as well

Hi, I started watching this channel recently. I am in the market for replacing my roof and wanted to ask for recommendations for better brands of shingles for my Houston area home. Is it worth paying extra for class 4-rated shingles for Houston?

*My roofer was gonna install GAF Timberline or something, and I had him switch to Malarkey Vista. Lets see how it turns out.*

Which asphalt shingles hold up the best in the brutal Phoenix, AZ heat? Expert answers only please

I am about to install a roof on my house. I live in Pennsylvania (PA) and zip code 19468. - do you have recommended contractors? - I have had bids and contractors proposing CertainTeed Landmark Pro and Owens Corning Duration. Which is better? What is the best grade 3 shingles in my area? Do you have recommended roofers in my area?

Awesome! Thank you!

We suffered roof damage from Hurricane Idalia in Northern Florida. Our insurance company has already approved replacing the roof on our house, our shop and our attached metal carport. All of the bids we have been receiving from roofers in our area have been offering only Tamako, Owen's Corning and GAF. We had already decided that we do not want Tamako shingles. We are leaning towards either Owen's Corning Duration or GAF Timberline HDZ, installed by one of their Elite contractors so we would get all the GAF warranties. Can you explain why you left GAF out of your 2023 ratings? From what I understand, their TImberline Hdz shingles are widely used and very popular, for many reasons. Having never gone through something like this before, and being complete novices about replacing roofs, we are trying to educate ourselves on the best choices. The amount of information is overwhelming and confusing! If you could explain why you left GAF Timberline HDZ out of your ratings, I think that would be very useful information for us. Thank you so much!

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Every bundle gets rain water in it, and it doesn't dry because it is wrapped in plastic. The old paper bundles would dry out.

OC Duration. Best bang for the buck. Seals better then any shingle on the market. Sure nail strip is awesome. Class 4 I go with OC FLEX. Super wind resistant. Another really good proven class 4 shingle is Malarkey Legacy. Just don’t seal as well as OC for high wind areas. IKO granules are loose. I’m in Canada we don’t see Atlas here. Can’t say. My stay away shingles are BP and GAF.

First, I want to thank you for ALL the info. I have begun my trip dow the roofing rabbit hole and you have offered SO much invaluable info. I just contacted a business from your directory and one of the first things out of their mouth pertianed to insurance. I found that unsettling. Please correct me if I am wrong but I automatically jump to an assumption that their price will be linked to out of pocket v. insurance and I don't like it. Am I wrong for questioning this? Also, they are having a sales rep contact me to set up an appointment for a roof check. I did ask if the person assessing the damage was an actual roofer and yes, he is. I then asked if the person doing the inspection would be the one to whom I would address all questions pertaining to shingle performance when choosing a new shingle. They said I would need to talk to the customer service rep... who has never nailed down a shingle in his life. Should I be alarmed or dissuaded by this?