2023 Toyota GR86 review: Sports coupe is angrier than ever - but is it better than the original 86?

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The new-generation 2023 Toyota GR86 is a more focused and angry sports car than the first-gen - but does that make it better?
It has been to the Toyota GR school of hard knocks, where the new Series 2 hachi-roku model has been made to be more assertive, more sporty, considerably faster and arguably a lot more convincing as a sports car than ever before.
Those changes have come at the expense of a few things, though. The last one was nicer to live with, with a smoother ride being the biggest difference. This new one is harder, harsher and more aggressive than the first take on the 86 (known as GT86 is some markets).
Prices are up by some big margins, too - and in this review, Matt Campbell helps you figure out whether the extra money is worth it or not.
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00:00 Intro
00:47 Driving
04:24 Under the bonnet
05:25 Efficiency
06:09 Pricing and features
07:44 Safety
08:24 Design
09:35 Practicality
13:07 Ownership
13:52 Verdict
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Пікірлер: 37

@hespie1 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy your reviews Matt, you're expert enough for me! Nice car wrong price.

@nishs2680 Жыл бұрын

Loved my 2012 86, the price of the new one makes it less of a no brainer than the original.

@carsguide Жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

@bodhisativaa Жыл бұрын

So cheap ae

@anthonynelson8000 Жыл бұрын

A manual GTS GR86 in my area is $50,784 delivered whereas a Subaru BRZ S manual is $45,730 delivered. As someone who ordered a GR86 April I am really struggling with this. I know they will sell all the cars but it feels like the enthusiasts (who will purchase the manual) are being penalised. I am about to cancel my order and go with Subaru. As the previous owner of a 2013 86 I am so disappointed with Toyota on this. The manual misses out on a lot of safety tech in the auto so there is even less justification for parity pricing. If I had not stayed loyal to Toyota I would have my car by now for over $5k cheaper. Not happy.

@melkor9295 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. The price is excessive and manual owners are getting an especially bad deal. I would really like to upgrade to the GR, but am going to hold off for awhile to see if Toyota comes to its senses. Also disappointed that I can only get the red stitching on the interior if I go with that ghastly red carpet! If it wasn't for the style of the grille and air intakes on the BRZ, I'd switch over, but I just don't think it looks anywhere near as good.

@KurtlesDude Жыл бұрын

Apparently the tuning, drive experience is better in the GR….something to consider if you haven’t cancelled. The Toyota will be more desirable on the used market in 5 years time.

@Mexxx65 Ай бұрын

Is there an option to turn off the Lane Change Flash feature, as I have in my VW Golf?

@cahernandezhe Жыл бұрын

Is the engine response different to the BRZ?

@1wayticket27 Жыл бұрын

Drive away for a manual gr 86 was 51k, subaru offered 44k for there limited.

@bfife22 Жыл бұрын

I wonder what caused the massive price hike in AUS. Here in the US the price only went up like $2K for each trim

@nitsi9333 Жыл бұрын

Inflation?

@shakethedrummer2351 Жыл бұрын

My understanding is the competition. In other countries the gr86 is similar price to i30n, the mustang, the camaro, the mx5 and the wrx.... ill attach a pic if i can

@J_S209 7 ай бұрын

Have a look at the exchange rate … the economy is rooted under Labor.

@michaelmartinez9509 Жыл бұрын

How does this compare to the 2022 edition? Any differences? Looks? Specs?

@australianwi-fi Жыл бұрын

they're the exact same I'm pretty sure

@MrPeteRR299 Жыл бұрын

Should have yarisGR engine

@gshaw7477 11 ай бұрын

After waiting 5 months I finally Got my new 86. $51k but no Sat nav. Yes it has apple car play but I live in regional Australia so phone navigation drops out all the time as soon as I get out of metro area. My previous Toyota 86 2017 model had no such issues and that Sat always worked brilliant. Tell me another model car that doesn’t have Sat nav let alone a car costing north of $50k. Most people won’t realise that a mobile phone is much less effective than a factory Sat nav. And don’t get me started on the safety issues and legal issues if you touch your phone whilst driving. The Screen is very small too. Apart from that it’s a great car but come on toyota…….not including Sat nav is going backwards.

@KrypticPlays Жыл бұрын

What color is the car being reviewed?

@australianwi-fi Жыл бұрын

Neptune Blue I believe it's called

@anthonywarry Жыл бұрын

You don't buy this car if you care about: 1. Fuel consumption 2. Auto gearbox 3. Safety BS blah blah blah ( I hate that stuff on my CX5, most of the time its downright dangerous) Just buy the BRZ..... Subarau is so much cooler than Toyota. Anything under $50k these days is normal. When your'e paying $8 for a cauliflower you'll expect $50k for this thing.... It's 2023 after all and we are all F&%ked. Life is too short to drive a boring car they say.

@jazminesaengthian7312 Жыл бұрын

The cauliflower got me

@paulmagson Жыл бұрын

The main reasons they didn't want to add a turbo is because that would increase the price another 10 or 20 thousand dollars majority of buyers aren't looking to spend more money sure!! more hassle tiny bit more fun, for a car like this! doesn't need a turbo when it's and for the content and those manual gear heads, depends on if your goanna track this car everyday yeah! get a manual for those who generally have traffic filled areas and using it for grocery runs, yeah! go for the reliable hassle free auto.

@hughhunt1800 11 ай бұрын

Hi, autos are, without exception, less reliable (and less fun) than manual transmissions. Adding a turbo would have been cheaper than redesigning the engine. It's not turboed for the same reason you shouldn't buy the auto; it's designed to be a pure sports car.

@maclen51B 5 ай бұрын

Also Toyota didn’t want a gr86 turbo to compete with the Supra.

@lukelawrence6007 Жыл бұрын

I wish it had a turbo

@vitosyyrialainen2584 Жыл бұрын

Kiitos ..

@julianlobigas9968 Жыл бұрын

Disable the artificial engine noise!

@S_G_B Жыл бұрын

1.Grill 2.side air intakes 3.longer nose on brz 4.bumper 5.splitter 6.wing mirrors (maybe idk) 7....

@jethrohaha Жыл бұрын

too price for a toy, yet not serious enough for the price tag

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