For the difference of 14lbs between the R 1300 GS and the Africa Twin Adv Sports ES I would take the weight penalty to get the extra 110km of fuel range any day of the week.

As a BMW GSA fan,I do think the African Twin has one of the best Adventure bike looks on the road"

Reliable, beautiful, dct, best sounding adv bike

Excellent review. Im trading my 2023 GS Rallye Low for the Africa Twin ES DCT, hopefully next month. I test rode the BMW GS1300 and although it was somewhat slightly better than my 23, the price is now out of my league. its near 30K or over 30K depending on model in the USA. Bye, bye, BMW. Cant wait for my Honda.

One of your best videos, Scott!

Yet again, a brilliant review

Great video Scott

Best reviewer!! Nice video! Thanks!

I love your videos since I've been into motorcycles. Now I am looking to upgrade out of a small displacement adventure bike to a bigger one, this info is great!

Thank you for the great review, you answer a lot of questions for many of us I am sure . I would like this , more street focused bike with the smaller wheels but in a slightly smaller package, and I know there are more options out there, but I still haven’t seen one that really stands out from the others. Someone did an article on the Tiger 900 Road focused version of their adventure bike said it was really nice but I think it’s high priced ..thanks again

Scott Your camera quality and angles are perfect...great job. Thanks

Thanks for a good reviews! Always enjoy and learn something from you.

Хоть я и не знаю языка и смотреть пришлось по субтитрам - это самый качественный и тщательный обзор на Африка Твин 2024, который я смог найти! Большое спасибо автору!! Великолепный мотоцикл, наверное идеальный. Почти мечта (почти, потому что цепь, а не кардан - был бы кардан, был бы 100% идеал).

Great reviews Scott ! I'm trying to hang on until the BMW 1300-1400 GSA debuts in the fall , choices are getting more difficult now between the GS 1300 & the 2024 African Twin. 😁

Brilliant objective review

Since German automotive engineering quality went down the toilet, I would choose a Japanese built Africa Twin anytime over anything German. I had new German cars for decades, not any more sadly. Good review thank you.

Thanks very much for your detailed and comprehensive review (as usual). I switched over the ATAS 2024 DCT 2 months ago, coming from three years of GS 1250 (standard) ans a few more BMWs in the last 20 years. What thrilled me was the DCT option mainly. I have to admit that from the pure "technical" point of view I'm very satisfied with my choice. At the same time I think the "driving feeling" of the GS is more solid and refined, like it is in a different category from the ATAS. We'll see in the next few months if the Honda is 100% convincing me. Best 🤞👍👍

Thank you great review

5-6 lbs is insignificant except on some manufacturers bag sheet. Heck, most riders could stand to lose 5-10 lbs with good diet and exercise. Problem solved and you're healthier for it.

Thanks Mr nothing to prove.

I've alwasy like the look of the Africa Twin, but for long rides in super comfort I can't find anything better the my GSA adventure bike wise

It’s fun to just look at. It’s the best looking adv bike year after year

Very nice loving the 19” front and reduced ride height. I decided against buying one a few years ago as I felt uncomfortable being barely able to get my feet down. The DCT is awesome however not for everyone albeit I’m sure once the novelty wears off most are ridden in D as a twist and go rather than playing around with paddle shift same as in a Car.

An excellent review Scott, particularly of the turbulence and vibration aspects on the motorway. You have also brought out the DCT dinosaurs ie those who have never tried DCT and therefore who can’t comprehend just what a game changing piece of technology it is. Thank you.

You can shift in a DCT bike with your left foot as usual. If you spec it that way.

That laugh says it all to me.😃

My dream machine.

Very nice looking bike, smoother as any other in this segment, reliable and top capablility for touring. These are its weapons, and I don't think at all they're minor reasons.

I swapped my NT1100 for a 1300GS, and now every twisty road puts a grin on my face. While riding the NT1100, I used to think about what I'd do when I reached my destination. On the 1300GS, I find myself pondering which roads I can explore along the way.

dct is great for touring

Nice Bike

I have a 2023 manual adventure sport, wish i went DCT as i had 2016 DCT prior but couldnt justify the 2500£ difference. 10,000kms done, enjoying it. Id love the extra 7% torque for the 2024 but not with a reduced front suspension not 19 wheel as i sometimes do off road

Thanks

Did you try riding in manual mode? I like my 2017 AT in manual mode. Love your videos, two thumbs up 👍👍

No way, not even my 2012-GS would make the change here. Just came home from a wonderfull “First-may-drive” with my wife. Perfect 👌🏻, even offroad in France/ some TET sections can be done, weight: 230 kg, cost: 7.600 € ❤💪🏻😍👍🏻 GS forever

Trading in my 2022 on a 2024 next week. Losing $7k USD, but it's worth it, IMO. I really want the lower suspension/center of gravity and smaller front wheel since I only ride it on the road. It's the closest thing to the NT 1100 I'm ever likely to get in the U.S.

even without being on a budget I'd take the Honda all day long ...

Aqui Brasil, muito obrigado pela tradução PT

Wish there would have been some offroad gravel or dirt to see your thoughts. nothing super technical but would be nice to know for offroad camping etc. Thanks for. the great review

i have been riding a 2017 Africa twin DCT for 3 years with a 19" front wheel and lowered suspension and its really close to the new 2024 version with 19" front wheel. only drawback is that it is a 1000cc and not 1100. thats why i just bought the new 2024 CRF1100-L Adventure Sports ES DCT.

Hi Scott, great review as always👍 Sorry for the question, but I have to ask you: I'm looking at the moment to buy a new adventure bike (only roads riding, without any off road), and my choice is between mid class 2024 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro, or 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sport Manual ES. I've tested the Tiger and I really like it, unfortunately I can't test ride the new Africa, but from all the reviews sounds like a great bike too. Which one would you prefer, because you rode both of them? Thanks.

On the weight discussion: the gs1300 lost weight, but also lost its place as a grand adventurer/tourer. Test rode one today. Its half the bike it was. Narrow, low, toy like. Crap/no weather protection, joke screen. Feels like an overpowered, overweight supermoto, with all the supermoto disadvantages and no advantages, in touring terms. I m afraid they will lose half their customers once these new owners start touring this summer. Perhapsmthey will rectify this with an extra fat GSA. Anyway, ATAS are brilliant bikes for one up touring, Docile, soft, economic, reliable, comfortable and fast enough -just.

Just too heavy. Even heavier than my KTM 1290 SAR monster. I was very tempted by this Honda, until I saw the weight. No, I do not really care that the weight disappears when the bike moves. What is important is picking this bike up and manoeuvring it around in loose gravel surfaces, heaven forbid muddy also.

Your insight is always appreciated, thank you. However, it is unfair to state basic GS1300 weight, b/c, if I`m not mistaken, that is w/o electronic suspension, which is included on AT. Taking into account Africa`s larger fuel tank, manual transmission bike is actually lighter than the GS.

Good review Scott, another one on my list next change, having a mere 29” inseam it might fit me now, shame about the weight but it seems too be well balanced, may I ask the model of your suit?

Great video. I’ve been riding GSA’s for 10 years and love them. Then i tried a new RT and was very tempted to change. However, the Honda with DCT really has my attention - it’s a shame BMW don’t have it yet. My problem is I hate chain drives!!! 1st world problems eh? 😂

Same bike. Will Honda E-clutch be an effective replacement or substitute for DCT? Only adds 4 pounds to base AT.

Honda almost touched the right spot with this one, besides the weight and the two hands windshield maneuvering set…This could be it. This clutch less bikes, DCT and any other systems like Yamaha released on the FJR years ago, still bug me, strong. I like the quick shifter device as an option for that days you feel like riding a little more aggressively, but no clutch, no shifter pedal? 🧐🤨Is this a giant scooter or an big Adventure electric bike? It’s none? Ok. So, why I’m feeling like it would be like it…? I liked it in cars. And I adapted fast. But two wheels, is a very different vehicle. I don’t know, I'm skeptical about it. Clutch less, key less? What’s the next “less” thing? Riders less?😂

Japanese engineering. ❤❤❤

I want to tell you what happened to me about this bike. First of all, I was a Honda fan until I bought this motorbike. After buying this motorbike, my perspective on Honda is really close to zero. I own a 2020 model L4 Dct adventure sport. Malfunctions that happened to me: 1: there is a suspension failure, it cannot cope with high weight and explodes. Suspension set changed 2 times. Dct: once the gearbox locked while driving at 110 km per hour on the motorway. I faced death. Infotainment: Sometimes the screen freezes when Apple CarPlay is connected or does not connect Apple CarPlay if the engine waits in the sun. Rust: Rusting occurs in the chassis in all versions of this engine after 2019. When I discussed this with Honda service, they say that the situation occurred due to external factors. Of course I can't keep a 250+kg motorbike in my bedroom. Electrical parts: one of the fuses of the engine constantly blows. In the middle of Handem Ynin, I drove 120 km in the dark of night in the middle of the night completely intuitively without any light. The response of the Honda service was that it was a problem that occurred in these models and they changed the fuse free of charge (what if the fuse changes after death, what if it does not change). Last month, ABS malfunction occurred, and since TCs was connected to the same sensor, it was also disabled, and we realised that the fuse burned again. On the other hand, in Turkey, the Ministry of Interior police department is cancelling about 250 AT L1 models ordered to Honda Turkey due to suspension and electronic failures. R1200gs, F850gs, vfr1200 models, which have completed their service life and are in idle condition, have been overhauled, renewed and put into use until the delivery of 500 1300gs ordered. The main reason for this return is that the front suspension of the police officer in Istanbul exploded while chasing the criminal and the officer was injured and taken to intensive care. Instead of Africas, they buy 500 R1300GS and Ktm. There is also a video on KZfaq about the delivery of these 500 engines. Africa Twin is a motorcycle that Honda made to take place in that class and I think it is a motorcycle that Honda did not spend any effort on it. maybe cheaper ktm, triumph or bmw can be bought in the 900cc band, which is lighter, or 1300gs, tiger1200, 1290adv can be bought for similar money. I started motorcycling at the age of 21, I am now 41 years old, I have owned over 20 motorcycles and I have personally experienced that Honda's motorcycle quality is far and far behind its competitors in today's conditions. I regret selling my vfr1200 croosstourer motorbike.

How would you compare this to the Tiger 900 GT Pro. The Tiger has more HP, a little less torque, but weighs about 60lbs less. The DCT on the AT is a big draw but the quick shifter on the Tiger is excellent. I found the Tiger to have quicker steering, better egos for a big guy, and more fun to ride, plus a few thousand less. Thoughts?

Thank you sir for a very nuanced review. Just a quick question, Honda Austalia offers 4 grands on their 2023 models. I'm planning to buy one and not sure if the improvements worth passing by 4k? Thanks

I have a 21' ATAS manual, the last year they were sold in North America, and I have to say it is the funnest bike I,ve ever had. The 24's are supposed to be coming to North America and I would be very interested to see if the 19" front wheel is that much better on road. In 26k miles it's done it all very well. Gravel and dirt roads are easy even two up and from Arkansa to South Dakota traveling with a bunch of Goldwings it did great. Side note I traded my 22' Goldwing for a 23' RT and loving it, how's your RT doing?

6:44 well... I Trust this lough 😂😂😂.

Make sure you don’t casually blip the Throttle without your foot on the Rear Brake, when using DCT after starting up, it won’t end well !!!

Does Honda have anything other than the Goldwing that has shaft drive

NT1100 OR AT? What to choose?

Nice review Scott but how does the seat height work? You said it was 835 that’s just under 33 inches but you said easy to flat foot it with bent legs on a 32 inch inseam.

Did you feel hot air from the engine and DCT?

they should have given the transalp a 19 inch front wheel aswell

Oh well, in a side-by-side comparison, the AF twin and the 1300 GS are worlds apart. The AF is missing several key features like adaptive cruise control, linked brakes, and shaft drive. It also has more vibrations, suffers from brake dive, and the CRF1100 engine doesn’t really excite-it delivers power but lacks the punch you might expect.. Honda could have taken a great leap forward by adding electronic suspension and adaptive cruise control to the NT1100, transforming it into a touring bike that not only leads its class in comfort but also puts its competitors on notice.

I traded my 2022 ATAS ES DCT for a 2024 R1250RT. Yes the DCT is great but for touring 2 up with luggage the dedicated machines like the RT are way better. Biggest minuses to the Honda: Weak brakes Soft suspension Wobbling at higher speeds Seat is a nightmare Drive mode is simply unusable, only SI upwards I did 24k Kms on it but the brakes and suspension on the BMWs are simply the best

If it is ludicrous in sport 3 who needs 150 or 200hp. All those hyper bikes are probably turned to less than 100hp at normal speeds. The're ridiculously superfluous .

Alot of talking about Honda making seat height lower, but that comes maybe mostly from 1 inch less radius on the front wheel?. Even if the engine is good, i was hoping for a bigger engine upgrade. Honda is behind competition compare to Bmw/Ktm/Triumph.

I wish Honda made adventure sports in basic trim, without dct and electronic suspension. I would be great competition to vstrom 1050.

I would appreciate it if you could tell me how to lower the seat height to 795.

The GS1300 is not an adventurebike anymore,that s the reason for the lighter weight!

Nice what's the horse power and torque

Now they just need a decent motor in it >= 125BHP

The Africa Twin is not really heavier than the GS 1300. The stated weight of the GS is completely without equipment, even without a center stand! Keep that in mind! I would always prefer the AT of the GS, because Honda simply has the better and more reliable technology. Die Africa Twin ist nicht wirklich schwerer als die GS 1300. BMW hat einfach gemogelt. Das angegebene Gewicht der GS ist komplett ohne Ausstattung, selbst ohne Hauptständer! Keep that in mind! Ich würde jederzeit die AT der GS bevorzugen, denn Honda hat einfach die bessere und zuverlässigere Technik.

I just put a deposit on a manual versions because DCT hadn’t coming in yet. Should I wait for the DCT or stay with manual version?

If we want more streetable, tell Honda to sell us the NCT1100DCT. The Rebel 1100 sucks for touring with a passenger. The NT sport tourer is sweet but Honda won't sell it to us in the USA. WTH Honda! Why can't we have the NC here???

21 inch is far better than the 19 if you do adventure riding not just GS style street riding

Is it me, or yours BMW engine make noise like there is something wrong with valves?

Tried one and got sore arse and felt I was on, instead of in.

As far as I know the weight of the DCT hasn't changed; onlysoftware upgrades as the mechanical components are already near perfect.

Is this 🏍 bike for tall people❓️ I'm 5'-4" 😢😭

Own the ATA ES manual 2023, way too heavy, terrible brakes, t7 next

Weldings look terrible

Too bad it doesn’t have a SHAFT !!

That swing arm looks 💩

Honda needs moore power ( +30 ). Motor is so booring to ride .....I dont like it ...😅

Honda has become a joke for performance oriented ADV bike buyers. Too heavy, not enough power, DCT is for lazy riders, too soft suspension, and the bike has had quality issues since introduction.

It's really overpriced, overweight, underpowered and only a 2 year warranty. Compared to the 1290 SAS and even the 1300GS. A value alternative will be the V strom 1050.

Buy a GoldWing and be your true self. Otherwise buy an adventure bike. This isn’t it.