How much did you buy it for?

@@Mr.305_ I think 6,000 , for each machine , I went out in the snow with this machine no effort getting threw the snow about 2 foot of snow or more just a very reliable & tough little machine , , yes not the biggest baddest , but over all just a blast , to ride

Hope to make more, glad you enjoyed!

No one in their right mind would pay the price of a side by side these days. The ATV audience are reasonable ppl

That's actually 18 gram weights for the new 450's, I believe the 700 Kodiak got 20 gram or heavier weights in them. Cool thing is a Kodiak in a 450 or 700 can swap weights out if more snap is desired, simple job to.

Man you should have got the IRS!

Probably ​@@thebeastmode4

I agree! Enjoy it! Great choice

I’ve pulled 3k pounds on my 2018 450 Kodiak abused since new never a transmission or belt problem

Can you get the screen in the middle on a manual shift?

Not they aren’t they are about equally strong however the Yamaha has a better rugged rough rack coating on it rather then the shiny paint on the Honda racks and the Yamaha bumper is way tougher. I have owned both I know.

@@JoshuaOverman Disagree. That coating is also weak and chips

Did your in-law say more specifically what the problem with the DCT was ? For 2023 I believe they changed the shifting program for the computer, so the transmission doesn’t struggle to find the gears like in the past, that part isn’t mechanical, that’s just the programming, which is why it’s easier to revise, I believe they did the same for the Honda pioneer 520 over the pioneer 500. It shifts better on the 520, they both have DCT transmissions. Honda uses DCT transmissions in a wide variety of applications like cars, and motorcycles as well. Honda had a similar issue in their cars with shifting programming when cars would be stuck in traffic for example, and would do the same thing, it would get confused about whether to up shift or down shift. The way the DCT is that it preselects the gear it “ Thinks “ your going to go into before you actually get to it, so if it thinks you’re accelerating it starts to shift up, but if you hit the brakes, and slow down as with in bumper to bumper traffic, the computer seems to struggle to find the correct gear. I believe this issue was addressed and corrected on the earlier models with the cars, it may have just made its way to the ATVS in 2023. The problem this programming caused was overheating in the transmission, which in turn effects the viscosity of the transmission lubricant. Causing premature internal wear on the mechanical components. If they fix the programming, then it should mechanically be fine just as the engine. The build quality is the same Honda quality , but that computer programming issue was pushing it to its limits continuously. The transmission needs proper lubrication just like the engine.

I have never had DCT problems neither has people I know with it. Dct is great for certain riders but if you are pure mud and water all the time foot shift would be more reliable.

I researched it when shopping for a new ATV last January, and a lot of people said it fixed it temporarily and then it started acting up again! @@TiffanyBottomsHunter

Ultramatic transmission on top of

I do have my own bias towards Hondas with reason, but I have many hours / years working and riding Yamaha products as well. From my experience I’ve found the Kodiak gutless when snowplowing or towing with it, it has struggled more for me.

Weight ratings are for geeks I tow whatever I want with mine I pulled 3k pounds 16ft trailer with my 2018 Kodiak 450 down the main road

I hear ya the Yamaha yfz 450 is a nice choice tho

I was gonna get a Honda last January, but test drove a rancher with DCT and it was def malfunctioning! I read online that it was a widespread issue with the DCT, ended up buying another Can Am!

No it doesn’t. If you weren’t told you wouldn’t know.

Mine did. The rpm's lug a lot lower on the Honda and it felt more connected to the ground. I had 2 Foreman's and a 2021 KQ 750. Direct, straight shafts like Honda use put the power down to the ground better and don't use up as much power IMO @@SAFE-AT-HOME-SPORTS.

@@trailblazeratv6306you can hear it in the video as well, that Kodiak sounds clunky, the honda sounds clean and you can tell its putting out more power.

Buy a sport quad then.

Independent will cost more but will be more comfortable better ground clearance and most likely more maintenance. If you want reliable less maintenance and a little cheaper but tougher get the manual solid axle. In my opinion if I was concerned about easy shifting I wouldn't get the electric shift rancher I would get the yamaha kodiak and same goes for independent rear suspension I would go with kodiak. I got a 2024 4×4 rancher around May sometime. What made my choice besides already liking hondas was I wanted the smallest no frills least maintenance 4×4 to last a long time. I got the 4×4 manual solid axle. I don't know if they have an independent rear suspension manual rancher I don't think they do but like I said I would go with yamaha automatic before I would honda electric shift that's just me though that's why I got the model I got for the best reliability all the way around. I also put a pullstart on mine I think yamaha comes with one but they are harder to pull too. Hopefully this helped instead of made your decision making worse. Oh honda comes with 12 month warranty yamaha has 6 and 10 year on the belt.

Solid axle if you want to pull weight as the weight of the hitch is on the axle not the shocks

I have a '16 rancher that shifts smooth as butter. I also have a '20 Rubicon that would sometimes miss a gear and get locked out until you cycled power. The last update to the computer seemed to fix it but it is a lazy shift now. I think its more of a cover up than fix.

There is no issue with them unless your slapping 30in tires on it and sinking it under water. If your a pure mud and water rider go foot shift if you do road driving and towing abuse get the auto

Yamaha MX,Honda ATV.

brand loyalty for one = brand ignorance for the rest. honda loves guys like you.

Yamaha ❤

@@powersportsenthusiast1986I own a Rancher..

Nah in my experience Yamahas last way longer

Not the newer ones. If it was a early 2000s i would agree

@@jameshogg601no the new Hondas are just as good as the old ones actually better

When I was a kid I developed a thing for Honda's - Back in the 80"s when I was a kid I used to go to a neighbor's house just so I could go in they're barn & sit on the little 50 cc mini dirt bike - Long time ago lol