2024 Kia EV9 large EV: Most expensive Kia ever costs over $100,000

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2024 Kia EV9 large EV: Most expensive Kia ever costs over $100,000
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@88camerasMT 9 ай бұрын

The prices recently came out in Canada and was quite a lot lower than expecting super happy with that and it falls in federal government rebates for all trims, so $5000CAD off. Was not expecting that.

@MBB617 9 ай бұрын

I think Xpang G9 is the nearest Chinese competitor

@supamario3055 9 ай бұрын

Its not too expensive, its just that most people are not getting richer (myself included) so therefore it is "too expensive". A lot of people can still afford this. Most people also cant afford a new Landcruiser. The expensive EV9 came out first, to capitalise. Waiting for the EV3. I'm sure that will also be expensive, but much less so.

@dyer2cycle 6 ай бұрын

ANY Kia that is $100,000 is INSANE!..I mean, Kia built itself to where it is by offering vehicles for less than $20,000 when almost nobody else was doing so..they established themselves as, and are, an "economy" brand..now they think their vehicles are worth $50,000-$100,000?..just nuts...

@andresamson8859 9 ай бұрын

In Quebec/Canada, the Awd 99kwh version is only 64900$ CAD , which mean it qualify for the 12 000$ federal and provincial incentive. That mean we can get it for 53000$ CAD ! Tesla Model Y AWD is for us 70k, and only qualify for 5000$ incentive, so the EV9 awd is 12 000$ cheaper than Model Y. Incredible value!!

@88camerasMT 9 ай бұрын

DAmn that's a great rebate in quebec! Only get 4k here in BC.

@JonathanRootD 8 ай бұрын

@@88camerasMT i get nothing here in seattle, and same trim same price in usd. so much for exchange rates

@rexcadral3468 9 ай бұрын

Very good EV replacement for a Ford Explorer or Ford Flex. Entry price in the US is ~$54K.

@baldisaerodynamic9692 9 ай бұрын

but they are POS. hyundai palisade fully loaded is $53k if you want a much closer comparison within the same family of vehicles. kia telluride as well fully loaded running about the same.

@lawrencebrillon6176 9 ай бұрын

Range is king versus 0-60 acceleration. Charging speed is next most important.

@ChicagoBob123 9 ай бұрын

Over 100k is just to much. You can gas any car and pay for repairs for much less.

@medman36 9 ай бұрын

It is expensive as 1. It is out of most people's price bracket, and 2 it is also mentioned in the title of this video.

@JoeyVaracalli 9 ай бұрын

I preordered one but idk if I’m going through with it. It’s so hard to say yes to when I can get the model y for way less and still get a tax credit. The reason why the mid tear isn’t good is due to towing being 1k instead of 5k lbs if you ever want to tow some boats or really anything other than bikes and ski equipment you need to upgrade to the get line

@JonathanRootD 8 ай бұрын

they're totally different vehicles. We already have a Y and will also get the EV9 because of its 3rd row and extra space.

@tonypaca3015 8 ай бұрын

so you are saying y would get the kia with spring suspension over the volvo with air suspension, best sound system and seats? are y ok?

@Raturidesagain 8 ай бұрын

Looks ace!!

@Fitforacting 9 ай бұрын

After having spent time seeing it from the inside at the Los Angeles Korean food festival, I can tell you that my family is Subaru ascentq has more room. I still like it though.

@baldisaerodynamic9692 9 ай бұрын

land cruiser is a purpose built vehicle....the kia ev9 is a family hauler. comparing a "budget brand" to a volvo isnt the same either its a big brick, highway range will be awful (like any vehicle of this type would gas or EV), and we all know third party charging network sucks. 260 miles on WLTP means that thing will get EPA of 220. (or 308 larger pack, prob 250 EPA) ill assume this battery is 10-80% for longevity, which means about 180-200 for small battery and 190-215 for larger battery as "usable" range. a fully loaded hyundai palasade is $53,000 and would cost about $60 to fill up at $3.50 a gallon and get over 420 miles of range. at 35cent per kwh to charge at a public charger to charge 80kwh would cost $28, could be more depending on the charger, time of day, location etc and thats assuming you can get a working third party charger. at 16c kwh (example home) would cost $13 per 80kw charged. (80kw used assuming larger pack and its 80% of the total pack) assuming 80kwh here. if range is say 200 average at the 80%, thats less than half of the palisades range on gas. if $60 above example fills it up from 2 gallons remaining to full, you are getting approx 420 miles (it advertises nearly 470 so im low balling it) and this ev is 200 range in this example, you will need to fill up the battery 2x. at the public charger example above, thats $56, or at home $26 for 400 miles of range. people with SUVs like this may opt for road trips due to space and family more than a tesla model 3, toyota camry, etc. there is ZERO benefit to buy this thing at all in my opinion based on the cost to operate, cost to buy, and the extreme lack of any savings. even with 3 oil changes a year at the dealer for $75 each. face the facts viking....EVs for large vehicles do not work when you apply common sense and the economics of them. EVs are best suited for basic commuter cars like smaller crossovers and sedans where the costs are reasonable, efficient and do actually offer cost benefits for some people. oh yea, and a land cruiser being a land cruiser, and a toyota will still hold its value far better. 20 year old land cruisers go for big bucks.

@MarsOzzie 9 ай бұрын

Good luck getting one

@frankcoffey 9 ай бұрын

The EV9 and the Rivian R1S are both great options for those looking for a big around town hauler. If you road trip Tesla Model X is a better deal for now, at least until the charging network gets built out.

@XX-166 9 ай бұрын

If I’m paying the big bucks for an EV… I want better quality and fit and finish so the Tesla is OUT.

@richardlane4764 9 ай бұрын

Tesla Model X is no longer available in Australia, RHD has been discontinued.. People who had them on order had their orders cancelled. Rivian also isn't available here and will be twice as expensive when/if it does ship die to Australian car taxes. Polestar 3 is a 5 seater, about $15k more and not available until mid-2024. Volvo EX90 is almost as big as the Kia, but is 12 months away and will cost more than the Kia. BMW iX is a 5-seater and about $50k more than the Kia. There's literally ZERO alternatives if you want a 7-seat EV, and the BMW is the only other EV you can actually *buy* with a 2,500kg tow rating.

@XX-166 9 ай бұрын

@@richardlane4764 that’s why available options are always good in the correct countries.

@kakashi3543 9 ай бұрын

@@XX-166 if you are in US good luck with CCS charging infrastructure. I am between Kia EV9 and Tesla model X and I do not want to cry near to CCS chargers...

@i6power30 9 ай бұрын

I wonder if they fixed the charging port over heating problems

@JonathanRootD 8 ай бұрын

they did

@Gargamel-n-Rudmilla 8 ай бұрын

I know think if Tesla uses a 1k - 800v architecture and a split level battery pack so it can also charge at 400v then Tesla will be able to reach it 500mile range target for it's Cybertruck long range trim. They are starting to roll out their V4 Superchargers which also will need to charge Semi's in the long run and also their vans when they get around to building them and before that their Roadster 2.0. Note I think Elon or I hope Elon reveals the roadster but the production ready final version at the Cybertruck delivery event. This should have the high voltage battery pack architecture which should also be cell to pack architecture as well using 4680's. Given that the 4680 will be ramping over the next 18-months I think Cybertruck + Semi + Roadster 2.0 will consume as much as they can produce.

@MoreOnEVs 9 ай бұрын

Rivian R1S?

@jbmop 9 ай бұрын

The price in Canada is actually reasonable.

@mkashay 9 ай бұрын

I am interested and will consider getting one. I will, however, wait until they make them in the US and qualify for that tax credit.

@JonathanRootD 8 ай бұрын

they will only qualify for half the tax credit

@mrmawson2438 9 ай бұрын

Afternoon mate

@andresamson8859 9 ай бұрын

Geely Zeekr and Volvo Em90 will be competitors

@scottmcshannon6821 9 ай бұрын

over 100,000, yeah its too expensive.

@Floridos 9 ай бұрын

EV9 starts at €68K for The Netherlands. Very competitive

@qilu2004 9 ай бұрын

for that money why not xpeng g9? better than ev9 any way u look at it.

@Floridos 9 ай бұрын

@@qilu2004 starts at €62K for same battery size models. Difference €6K. Big difference is that Kia has more dealerships for customers to bring the car for issues, service and repairs. But the Xpeng G9 is a great alternative as well.

@MarsOzzie 9 ай бұрын

Tesla should have made the model y 7 seater

@andders2477 9 ай бұрын

its a lot of money for a car but also a lot of car. compared to similar petrol car its cheap in Denmark because of tax. Less than half of a landcruiser 300.

@lesnypatrol7292 9 ай бұрын

That size and weight EV should have at least 90kWh battery pack for Raer Wheel Drive and 130kWh for AWD models . I am sure highway range will be very limited :)

@icosthop9998 9 ай бұрын

Too Expensive. Guess they are going to make sure that they *~are~* making a profit on this vehicle. $💲$

@mrmawson2438 9 ай бұрын

Kia is a big lump but if you need that space and you can afford it, it's a good lump

@jimgraham6722 8 ай бұрын

Could buy two Attos or three Dolphins for this price.

@elmojito 9 ай бұрын

Being the same size as a Land Cruiser does not make them comparable. A Land Cruiser is a body on frame real off road capable car whereas the EV9 is not. The Land Cruiser is a legend in durability and dependability that takes years to develop and unfortunately Kia may be very good but still do not command that reputation: and that is worth a lot. Also, even Kia's own 3 row SUV's in the US are 30% less expensive.

@elmojito 9 ай бұрын

@@harmony3138 Totally agree. I see some of his videos for quick information but in the great majority of cases after a few minutes I close them after his too many words to just peddle his opinions which in many cases I don't share. Plus even opinions we have are potentially very different as we may live in different countries/continents and the local realities - in my case Spain which is very different to the US or Australia.

@i6power30 9 ай бұрын

In 5 years land cruiser will be worth twice as much as kia. You do the math how much gas savings you will get for that depreciation. Depending on your mileage

@_petar 9 ай бұрын

Land Cruiser does not depreciate 70% in 2 years, some folks are even selling it now for the same price they bought it 5 years ago.

@MonkeyPower55 9 ай бұрын

70% in two years? What Kia EV depreciates that much?

@i6power30 9 ай бұрын

Maybe 30% likely

@user-mj9tr3ym5t 9 ай бұрын

@@MonkeyPower55 kia depreciated to junk

@chris27gea58 9 ай бұрын

Whatever the current rate of depreciation of the Land Cruiser happens to be it will depend on a) the state of competition coming from other manufacturers supplying vehicles in the same category b) constraints on the supply of Land Cruisers c) the level of demand for that vehicle in the used and new vehicle markets and d) the popularity and condition of similar second hand vehicles available in the market that are made by other manufacturers. When Kia introduces the EV9 that might have an effect on any or all of those factors so don't imagine that the slow depreciation of new model Land Cruisers that we see today will necessarily remain like that into the distant future. If people like the EV9 and it gets supplied in limited numbers then its value in the used vehicle market should hold up too. As it happens Land Cruisers are in short supply relative to demand, in Australia and elsewhere. And, Toyota seems to be happy with that sutuation. The premium SUV market is a high margin market for Toyota with customers willing to pay a steep price for the vehicle. The short supply situation explains the high used vehicle prices as well. Personally, I think $100,000 is a rip off new or used. And, some degree of depreciation is to be expected in markets that are adequately supplied.

@i6power30 9 ай бұрын

@@chris27gea58 depreciation also depends on reliability and longevity of vehicle. Even mass produced vehicles like Camry and RAV4 hold up value better than EVs because they cost less to maintain and repair. Buyers of used vehicles have to consider how much is it going to cost me to fix it if something goes wrong. The sad thing about the current EV designs are focused on high tech and flashy gimmicks that will either break or be obsolete in a few years. Not to mention in a few years a brand new battery design might make the current batteries obsolete and depreciate current EVs also. Owning an out of warranty EV is a gamble. Owning an out of warranty Land cruiser or even RAV4 you can sleep well at night.

@MarsOzzie 9 ай бұрын

They can't keep up with carnival Sales

@qilu2004 9 ай бұрын

does it use a korean made battery? if so, it is not worth buying until koreans prove their batteries are reliable.

@zooomart 9 ай бұрын

Come on Sam… Hyundai control and driving assistance in Ioniq 5 and Telluride are quite good, by now you really should have driven the vehicles. EV9 systems should be as good, but you need more windshield time in BEVs to remain a unbaised pundit

@vindigga6 9 ай бұрын

I do think its a lil expensive, but people have to remember its cheaper then any other ev suv out there. And its a true suv with true 7 seats. My view is, with the electric drive train, this will be the last 7 seat suv ill ever have to buy.

@senoow4215 9 ай бұрын

The cadilliac, escalade ev seems like the craziest 7 seater 😂😂

@chillfluencer 9 ай бұрын

You might be amused about what requirements the Anti-Automobile Association (AAA) of Pennsylvania demanded when the first cars arrived. You can find a bit about that on the English show QI in the episode tackling the letter "K". Amusing indeed!

@ggffrr33 9 ай бұрын

Totally high priced vehicle with a low range. Depending on the model you get, the EV9 gets 230 to 300 miles of range on a sunny day. Of course it will also depreciate 40 to 50% in a couple of years. Viking - Why are you promoting such a crummy deal?

@SkeenDogger 9 ай бұрын

Do the batteries in the Kias degrade that bad both Teslas I've owned lost around 11% but stayed at around that which I hear is common.

@ggffrr33 9 ай бұрын

The 40 to 50 % I was referring to is the price of the EV9. If you look at the used EV market the drop in values is unbelievable, much higher than ICE.

@baldisaerodynamic9692 9 ай бұрын

thats on WLTP....EPA will be lower.

@vasil7410 9 ай бұрын

@@ggffrr33A genuine question, where do you get your information regarding EV depreciation compared to ICE? I have now heard this claim a few times on KZfaq but my own research doesn't support it.

@vasil7410 9 ай бұрын

Most high priced cars depreciate a lot in the first few years, due to GST, luxury car tax and the fact that many people in this price bracket either lease through a business or are prepared to pay a high margin for new. Indeed, I have purchased several used premium Mercedes and BMWs cars over the years, each of them 30-40% depreciated from new after only two years. None of them EVs.

@dt2526 9 ай бұрын

😂😂 I would like to see who would pay 100k for kia .

@noleftturns 9 ай бұрын

This is what Americans want - room to seat 7 full-grown Americans in style. Sadly, Tesla is not it, and it will take 5 years before they can produce such an EV. Kia nad Volvo have the field to themselves. In the meantime, Elon will hold firesales to unload his tiny 4-seaters that Americans don't need.

@justcastro 9 ай бұрын

EV9 is not selling very well in korea, due to many issues. kia and hyundai EV sucks

@jkim5746 9 ай бұрын

$80k for the midrange model?! Oh heck no...this will be a flop! I can see it being sold in the suburban areas AND they don't plan on traveling too far. They're onboard charger sounds good but the overall range is horrible for that sized vehicle, no one with a family will ever see that range (I think it said 280 miles for 4WD) due to the extra weight (pretty darn sure they don't take into account the weight of the passengers when they do those tests...as well as the range loss above 70 MPH) They're using old battery tech and that's just sad...going to have to wait for the next gen, blehhh

@JonathanRootD 8 ай бұрын

you dont own an ev do you?