thats not even including markups and sales tax... oof

Yeah and I will not buy one at that price. Crazy.

because the previous gen was just 4wd no tech at all

They can sell this for $45K and still make profit.

The previous gen Tacoma TRD pros were going for 60k here in Denver. I ended up buying a fully loaded 2023 Canyon AT4 for 50k

Seemed to do fairly decent here though. Maybe subsequent owners might tackle more hardcore obstacles, but at least for first owners I think this is equipped just fine for a non-niche pickup.

@@ALMX5DP It has a locker.

@@rightlanehog3151 Oh gotcha, I thought I heard Ryan mention something but thought maybe it was some electronic mimickery. Not sure it's needed to be standard on non-offroad trims though, think a limited slip would be more beneficial for the majority of customers and their uses.

You will not find this trim at Dealer lots for 74k, try 84k with markups.

Just found one in AZ FOR 73K

His truck would still have the lower air dam which helps with MPGs. This one had it removed for the TRD Skid Plate.

​@@drivingsports You show the active aero when showing the TRD skid plate at 4:30 in the video

@@PVTPablo according to Toyota a piece was removed for the TRD Plate. 🤷‍♂️ I’m a little confused by that too.

@@drivingsports Thanks Ryan, good to know.

@@drivingsports My 23 limited non hybrid TRD offroad doesn't have a skid plate, but it doesn't have the air dam either. Probably just removed for better approach angle? I get mid 18 mpg.

I'm pretty sure the Tacoma will be over priced too.😋

@@MatthewBonacci3881 oh you know it will. All trucks are heading that way. If not already there. I seen a loaded Ranger recently go for the same asking price as a fully loaded F150 from 2015 era. Sweew. No thanks

It’s our private test course near Ellensberg

@@drivingsports ok thanks

Pretty impressive what GM can do with a good ol' pushrod V8. The little 4.0 V6 in my 4Runner can barely get that, and it has 100 HP less.

@@trailrunnah8886the 4Runner won’t fall apart though like the 5.3.

@@thomas735 the older ones were good, I have a friend who had a 5.3L 2001 Sierra, it was still running fine when he sold it a few years back with 300k on it. I agree the newer ones with DoD are questionable though.

Shoot, my dealership has 3 TRD PRO tundras coming within the month, and we have limited, platinum, and capstone trims just sitting on the lot. Why so long for the wait?

This helps maintain the value of my 23 Toyota tundra 1794

@gmann2393 Not sure why , it has been like this since covid started and hasn't gotten any better. Every dealership within 100 miles is the same .

I haven’t looked at the exact numbers, but I believe emissions are much lower on the turbo six than on the eight.

Typical mileage for these is around 21 or so. Not entirely sure why he got 16 other than the elevation.

Its not about MPG the emissions are much lower with the V6 thats why everyone is switching.

The V8 got better fuel economy than the twin turbo V6 ever will, and with the V8 you weren't really working the engine at all on highway cruising drives. The problem was the 6 speed transmission never could figure out what gear it was supposed to be in LOL. The fuel economy was great back then considering it had a 4.30 axle ratio....it was built to work not be fuel efficient, which is where most people get mixed up...they buy a truck thinking its gonna do great on gas...no its built to haul and tow...want fuel economy buy a car. In the beginning of the video he mentioned he got 16mpg....pretty pathetic fuel economy, sure he was going up and down hills, but a truck like that with a V8 would have gotten a little better, and no turbos and hybrid system to give you problems after warranty period is over, and they will give you problems. What Toyota should have done was put an 8 speed in the Tundra with the V8 as an ongoing option, if you want a car with a truck bed fine, get the pile of junk V6, but for those that actually want their truck to last and need to haul and tow a lot of the time get the V8.

I’m torn between the two. The TT6 will perform better at higher elevations, so that’s a plus.

They haven’t sent one to the Pacific Northwest for us to test yet.

Build date keeps moving. Currently in January 2024 now. 😡

I would just skip all that nonsense and add an aftermarket locker, and skid plates, get rid of the running boards/steps option and put sliders on it and have money left over. Just buy the base model 4x4, add an ARB locker or any auto locker will do as well. Stick to 17" or maybe 18" wheels and you'll have more space for tires with more sidewall for better ride and less issues with tire damage on trails. All those fancy goodies they add are garbage, and way too expensive for what they are. I had an 08 base model Tundra, but with the 5.7L V8, and 4WD....had plenty of features, if I could have got it without the safety nannies it would have been even better LOL....never felt the need for a locker, the ATRAC and good tires with 4WD did very well even in some pretty precarious spots I got into in deep snow and a couple of occasions some deeper muddy areas up hunting. Toyota lost my business when they just completely discontinued the V8 option in the Tundra and went straight for that stupid turbo V6 crap. Yes, when you buy a vehicle that you are gonna keep for 10+ years, you want the V8, not the turbo underpowered engine garbage....they don't bother to tell customers that anytime you want to get out of your own way you are gonna get worse fuel economy than a V8 or larger engine period...and all that 400+ horsepower don't happen at all without those turbos and guzzling gas. 16mph, that's HD truck fuel economy...and actually many of them now get around that or better when unloaded....so a 1/2 ton truck getting that kind of fuel economy in today's world is pretty pathetic.

Just make sure you understand how mpg translates to fuel cost per mile.

@@ALMX5DP I do. That's the downside with the Chevy diesel. Especially if the emissions system goes out or other reliability issues. I'm probably better off with the Tacoma. I've had my Honda Accord for over 10 years and 150,000 miles. I'm sure I would keep a truck for the next 15 years.

Thankful they reversed course and added them to the Tacoma.

Because people are buying them as soccer mom family sedans now...trucks used to cost less than a car...people figured that out, then out came extended cab and crew cab trucks, then came the fancy interiors, then all the luxury car crap...so now you pay ridiculous prices on trucks because they cater to people who never use them as a truck.

Really? Most have said it's basically a baby Tundra lol. Take the Tundra and shrink it and you'll have the new Tacoma

Now I want tacos.

​@@chibbyylolYeah, no. Ain't NO mistaking the grill on the new Tundra... EVA. A face only a mother could love.

@@chibbyylol looks much prettier, and it doesn't look like tundra at all

@Twink… This is the first time I hear this. Nobody before said that the Tacoma looks anything like the Tundra. And honestly it doesn’t. Which isn’t surprising because two different teams designed and engineered them.

Lol

@@Dontdoitguy For what??

Supposedly the toyota US guys really pushed for hooks on the tundras, and used the backlash to convince toyota to put them on the taco. AEF power makes some hooks, I might buy a set for mine. unfortunately the tow rope would be pretty dang close to the bumper though.

You can get that same truck for 69,000.

Lunar Rock.

That was my thinking. Sure it's capable of going off-roading but the people who buy this just want to look like they're going to go off-roading without actually ever leaving the pavement.

I have a 2019 Tundra 5.7 V8 and get 11.5mpg. I'm a bit skeptical about your claims.

My 08 crewmax 5.7 4x4 I got 15-16 mpg. 12 4.6 double cab 2x4 17-18mpg. My 24 limited non hybrid 4x4 20 mpg. The 08 and 12 were v8 and the 24 is twin turbo v6. 08 and 12 both got to 200k with no problems at all.

For that kind of money I'd be buying an HD truck, not a soccer mom family sedan.

@@wildbill23ckinda depends what you want or need out of a vehicle no?

It's about the same as the Tacoma and F150 and a little better than the RAM or Silverado.

Its a luxury truck, not surprised.

Worst part is Toyota dropped the V8 because of fuel economy standards....yet the replacement gets worse fuel economy LOL. I usually got 19mpg with my 08 5.7L V8 equipped Tundra, but it also had the 4.30 axle ratio so it could actually tow quite well for a 1/2 ton truck. It was built to be a work truck, not a soccer mom grocery getter sedan that people keep buying trucks for.