Josh Pate On Brian Kelly's Comments & LSU's Approach (Late Kick Cut)

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Late Kick with Josh Pate

Late Kick with Josh Pate

Ай бұрын

LSU's Brian Kelly has drawn criticism for some comments he made about NIL and the Transfer Portal this week. On Late Kick Live Ep 511 Josh Pate responded to those critical of Brian Kelly and offered his own take on things. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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@LateKickwithJoshPate
@LateKickwithJoshPate Ай бұрын
Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP
@gnfnrs1186
@gnfnrs1186 Ай бұрын
Kelly said he's not paying $1.5m for an altima just because he needs a car 😂
@NewHorizons5
@NewHorizons5 Ай бұрын
Hell, even if they're a Corvette, 1.5MM is pretty steep.
@benfontenot9896
@benfontenot9896 Ай бұрын
BINGO
@cosmaszunnah89
@cosmaszunnah89 Ай бұрын
Facts 😂
@Al-Rudigor
@Al-Rudigor Ай бұрын
When that seat gets hot, he's gonna be begging his donors for money. 😂😂😂
@mactezeno4541
@mactezeno4541 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@plumtiger1
@plumtiger1 Ай бұрын
Still totally satisfied with Brian Kelly as our coach. No, not perfect, but he's very smart, always striving to improve, and very in tune with what's going on around him. I'm glad he stuck by his principles. He also hired the best D line coach in America, so let's let him do his thing and see what happens 🤷
@AlmightyMauMau
@AlmightyMauMau Ай бұрын
Wrong!! Jason Taylor is the best DL coach in America. Yes THAT Jason Taylor… followed by Larry Johnson
@PureGeauxld
@PureGeauxld Ай бұрын
​@@AlmightyMauMauWrong!!
@AlmightyMauMau
@AlmightyMauMau Ай бұрын
@@PureGeauxld okay.. which DL had the best DL haul in recruiting???
@PureGeauxld
@PureGeauxld Ай бұрын
@@AlmightyMauMau 😂 You don't know much, huh ... Dude has had 1 recruiting class, and has only been coaching for 1 year. Just because Miami bought some players in this past class does not make Taylor the BEST DL coach. How many of his players have been drafted? 0... 😂
@john-wh6mz
@john-wh6mz Ай бұрын
Give it a few years lol. You'll hate BK. Trust me lol
@thetony5474
@thetony5474 Ай бұрын
Brian Kelly as a burn victim wearing a Kane mask and using a voice modulator is actually pretty terrifying imo 🥴
@jmiller9972
@jmiller9972 Ай бұрын
Josh Pate's wrestling references are always top tier lol
@Razor857
@Razor857 Ай бұрын
Spot on. You can’t overpay out of desperation. The best 2 DTs in spring portal wouldn’t have gotten such attention in Dec. LSU fans have been the worst over this. LSU has 8 interior DL. They need to step up and LSU hired a staff to make that happen. Bo knows DL. Half of those guys were highly rated recruits and have never really gotten good coaching. Remember, LSU didn’t have a full time DL coach last year due to medical reasons.
@Whoknowswhere12
@Whoknowswhere12 Ай бұрын
As a football fan i appreciate where BK is coming from. That being said im also an LSU fan. Buy away ❤
@kengraham6288
@kengraham6288 Ай бұрын
Love your background. I have that print signed by Earl and beautifully framed in my office.
@djs3715
@djs3715 Ай бұрын
Well said Josh.
@birdman9043
@birdman9043 Ай бұрын
OU fan here, what Kelly said about nil money is on target didn't feel like he was talking about OU per say, BV has the same philosophy as the tigers.
@drwinstonOboogi
@drwinstonOboogi Ай бұрын
Brian Kelly is suggesting to his fanbase that his recruiting failure is because Oklahoma "bought" Damonic Williams. It's an excuse that deflects blame. It's also insulting to DW and OU's staff. I think Kelly is full of BS. If DW's plan was to sell himself to the highest bidder, would he have really canceled his visit to Oregon?
@jtaylor1219
@jtaylor1219 Ай бұрын
Before you say a word in the video. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said in the clip.
@mickmcgrath2313
@mickmcgrath2313 Ай бұрын
Great job, Josh! Thanks for the voice of reason!
@Tijuanabill
@Tijuanabill Ай бұрын
Kelly acting like he hasn't been dropping bags for decades, is about as believable as his Southern accent.
@Conquistador4564
@Conquistador4564 Ай бұрын
Josh, I propose a NIL Cap for Power 5 Conferences. This will bring back some equilibrium to major college football! Why don't you discuss it with a Commissioner from a Power 5 college? If they refuse, ask the Commissioner of Mountain West/PAC 2 Conference. I'm sure the latter would love to discuss a NIL Cap. This will allow them to recruit better players for their conference. Angel USC'78
@happynotredamefan3736
@happynotredamefan3736 Ай бұрын
9:39 I’m sure the players were thinking in the locker took were thinking about his “I’m in favor of execution” comment after a poor performance (still won)
@ghostwalker89
@ghostwalker89 Ай бұрын
How many starters have left LSU to other teams the past 2 years 🤔
@MikeyPulls
@MikeyPulls Ай бұрын
Boy sounds exactly like what he said at ND lmao.
@A100-ND
@A100-ND Ай бұрын
A tiger who will never change his stripes.
@cane870
@cane870 Ай бұрын
The funny thing is… LSU puts more players into the NFL than every other team in the country, neck and neck with Bama. Getting the sense that people think LSU can’t develop players just as well as any other team.
@user-xp6qd4sk1j
@user-xp6qd4sk1j Ай бұрын
EXACTLY. For just the THIRD time in NFL draft history has ONE team had their QB and TWO WRS go together 1st round of a draft. LSU was 1st to do it in the 07 draft. This was LSUs SECOND time doing it. 2 out of 3 all time aint bad.
@PureGeauxld
@PureGeauxld Ай бұрын
​@@user-xp6qd4sk1jI consider 2020/2021 draft as well, because Chase sat out the whole season and still went #5 overall... The yr before he sat out, ya had #1 Burrow and #22 Jefferson. That's QB and top 2 WRs going in the 1st round... But ya also had the RB CEH go #32 in the 1st round as well. LSU set the record with 14 drafted in one class that year (15 if ya count Chase, I do).
@richardjackley334
@richardjackley334 Ай бұрын
Well, well, Georgia was willing to pay Jacoby Young more than Miami would. I guess it's not always as you say. BTW, I'm a big fan of Josh's, but I just gave you an example where NIL money from Georgia did matter, and I bet there's plenty more. Now we could have a conversation about the bag man and the SEC.
@drwinstonOboogi
@drwinstonOboogi Ай бұрын
The funny thing is.... Oklahoma has put more players in the NFL than either LSU or Alabama. Damonic Williams said getting developed for the NFL is why he chose Oklahoma.
@PureGeauxld
@PureGeauxld Ай бұрын
@@drwinstonOboogi Not the 7 figure $ deal, nah, no way, it's cuz he wanna be "$DeVeL0peD$" 😂😂😂
@quiriniuswilson2651
@quiriniuswilson2651 Ай бұрын
Great VIDEO !! LSU 💛💜 forever
@aaronred888
@aaronred888 Ай бұрын
BK really saved LSU.. Coach O(love him) left LSU with less than 40 scholarship players and BK still won 10games and beat bama… say what you want but I trust his process bc any other coach could have had us with 4 straight losing seasons
@chrisemerson7743
@chrisemerson7743 Ай бұрын
Dude I could coach LSU to better than 50/50! 10wins ain’t shit when your talking about LSU! And I’m a Bama fan! Roll Tide!
@ddesemblyftw
@ddesemblyftw Ай бұрын
It sounds like Brian Kelly watched your Ryan Day interview.
@justinbuckeyefirm5790
@justinbuckeyefirm5790 Ай бұрын
Cause they are both good coaches
@matthewgibson7930
@matthewgibson7930 Ай бұрын
My Boys ain't playing no where for Free Point blank point!!
@bodacious117
@bodacious117 Ай бұрын
You ain’t got no boys playing anywhere lol
@504Teety
@504Teety Ай бұрын
Free? 700k is free? Yall say the dumbest shit and don't be knowing what yall talking about
@mannip23
@mannip23 Ай бұрын
You act like LSU is a second class program compared to UGA. The last three years is all that matters you? You look at players in the NFL, SEC Championships, title game appearances and national championships the past 20 or so years. They don’t beat LSU in any of those categories. There is no place that develops players better than LSU. Look at NFL rosters and look and recruiting rankings no school gives you a better shot at making the league. Whether you want to admit it or not no school besides Bama has been more successful than LSU since 2000. We did it with four different coaches. On the field results and NFL talent. Nobody besides bama has as national championships or played in more title games. Maybe OSU and Bama can claim the same about of NFL success but they finish top 3 every year in recruiting.
@maddb3457
@maddb3457 Ай бұрын
They haven't turn their recruits into nattys during their time at college like Alabama and Georgia has. They are not at their level. No one else is.
@doc8013
@doc8013 Ай бұрын
How did he act like that?
@DiorDexico
@DiorDexico Ай бұрын
I’m an lsu fan and this guy always gives credit to lsu. He recognizes that they are always a potential powerhouse bc they are. But even then lsu is not where Georgia is at rn and no program in the country is
@voiceofreason2674
@voiceofreason2674 Ай бұрын
It's the extreme heat
@Trifln214
@Trifln214 Ай бұрын
⁠@@DiorDexicoI remember just a few years ago watching LSU smack the piss outta Georgia in the SEC championship. And nearly 4 times in a row prior to that (besides 2013) Georgia holds an astonishing 1 game win streak against LSU.
@robertbinder2743
@robertbinder2743 Ай бұрын
I don’t understand why people are so upset BK said he didn’t wanna pay a DT a 7 figure deal if he doesn’t have to
@scottgibbs5903
@scottgibbs5903 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, positive reputations are Hard earned and easily lost. Brian Kelly is reaping what he’s sowed.
@crazylegz324
@crazylegz324 Ай бұрын
7 figures is Glen Dorsey money. I hadn’t even heard of this guy till we started going after him.
@justinbuckeyefirm5790
@justinbuckeyefirm5790 Ай бұрын
I love his approach and if everyone in cfb did the same itd be better all around
@syoung3512
@syoung3512 Ай бұрын
Kelly has the #1 recruiting class in 2025. In 2026 he’s got the #1 DT and overall recruit 30 miles from BR. Have a little patience. The last time LSU had a number 1 recruiting class was 2003 under Saban. Who won the NC in 2003?
@happynotredamefan3736
@happynotredamefan3736 Ай бұрын
No he doesn’t we have #1 recruiting class in 2025
@IllustratedManOfficial
@IllustratedManOfficial Ай бұрын
Pre-NIL era schools Bama, UGA, OSU, LSU and others were big players in the under-the-table bag game. And allowed by the NCAA. These coaches complaining about NIL are mad about losing the built-in advantage they once had.
@wattsinc.
@wattsinc. Ай бұрын
Osu didn't pay players.
@pierrerochon7271
@pierrerochon7271 Ай бұрын
SPOT ON- GREED BROUGHT - TEXAS AND OU- LSU will drift into mediocrity -oil money will control- do not forget the aggies- don't whine
@Fearlessleadr7
@Fearlessleadr7 Ай бұрын
It’s not the same topic. Paying a player is one thing. Being full of it and paying a a random starter more than everyone else on the team when the need warrants it but the players merit and talent don’t warrant it is disrespectful to yourself and your program and it set a precedence for how you will behave in the future when a player asks for more than they talent is worth. You don’t pay twice the cost of a new car for a used car. You catch the bus or train until you find a reasonable price.
@RhinoAg
@RhinoAg Ай бұрын
@@wattsinc. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAH
@wattsinc.
@wattsinc. Ай бұрын
@RhinoAg im not wrong fool. Osu never paid players pre nil. You can hate osu but dont be ignorant. Ohio state didn't have the best recruiting classes and with some of the richest alumnis they would every year
@mikediles2216
@mikediles2216 Ай бұрын
Columbus Ohio
@richardmorgan6105
@richardmorgan6105 Ай бұрын
Agree with you totally!
@futlaw2360
@futlaw2360 Ай бұрын
He said it as an excuse. That is the bottom line. He has a history of making excuses. This is yet another example of that. He could not just own the fact he and his coaching staff were unable to obtain some help at a needed position, so he imbedded an excuse that he can fall back on if things do not play out as expected. Saban and Smart do not get grief for making similar comments because they do not bring it up in a context that makes it look like they are making excuses for their own failures.
@user-xp6qd4sk1j
@user-xp6qd4sk1j Ай бұрын
Coach Brian Kelly is building a program. With or without adding another DT LSU will be more than OK. In '22 and '23 when he had to be more into the portal tigers finished #3 and #5. Somebody came up with the benjamins for those players. A coach does what's in the best interest of his team.
@JJ-zr6fu
@JJ-zr6fu Ай бұрын
Programs are built on the o line and especially the d line
@user-xp6qd4sk1j
@user-xp6qd4sk1j Ай бұрын
@@JJ-zr6fu And LSU has a solid group at DE/edge. Solid two deep with a couple of young up and comers. DT is a work in progress Tank Guillory got plenty reps last year and is the only known starter at the position. Bo Davis will go into summer workouts with 10-12 DTs without adding another DT from the portal. Have a 5* incoming freshman.
@livingadreamlife1428
@livingadreamlife1428 Ай бұрын
Sour grapes on Kelly’s behalf. He got outpaid and his explanation is damage control as his Cajun fan base isn’t pleased.
@robertbinder2743
@robertbinder2743 Ай бұрын
No we're pleased he didn't pay 1.2 million for a DT that wasn't worth 1.2 million. We don't need yall to speak on our behalf.
@winnemucca-sk5392
@winnemucca-sk5392 Ай бұрын
@@robertbinder2743 you sure they didn't offer high though? It is hard to know for sure. they had an amazing receiver group and qb last year. if those guys didn't ball out. there would have been more losses and his culture plan would be staring at an exit at the end of this season.
@robertbinder2743
@robertbinder2743 Ай бұрын
@@winnemucca-sk5392 it was reported the offer was equivalent to what Will Campbell is paid.
@drwinstonOboogi
@drwinstonOboogi Ай бұрын
@@robertbinder2743 OU didn't pay 1.2 million, that's sour grapes talking. Damonic believes OU has the better coaching staff.
@robertbinder2743
@robertbinder2743 Ай бұрын
@drwinstonOboogi they paid more than LSU offered. Please educate yourself
@michaelhammond7115
@michaelhammond7115 Ай бұрын
Texas paid their offensive lineman $500,00 each,roughly 3 million... You can look it up
@Freshy_Jones
@Freshy_Jones Ай бұрын
All that to lose 5 games in 2024😆
@alandean9291
@alandean9291 Ай бұрын
Are u serious?
@rajahmia257
@rajahmia257 Ай бұрын
Wait, wasn't Kelly bought to the tune of 95mil?
@doc8013
@doc8013 Ай бұрын
He's a coach, not a player. Not the same.
@wannamontana4130
@wannamontana4130 Ай бұрын
... and is Kirby Smart or was Saban "bought" for more? Yes they were! ... and that doesn't dismiss this argument that Pate has exceptionally captured.
@pierrerochon7271
@pierrerochon7271 Ай бұрын
YEP - COACHES ARE mercenaries- BK IF HE WINS A NATTY- WANTS 13 MILLION - ALL WE NEED TO KNOW
@wannamontana4130
@wannamontana4130 Ай бұрын
@@pierrerochon7271 Gotcha. Since that's "all you need to know" I guess it invalidates Kirby and Saban too? It invalidates Pate's argument? It makes it OK for the rest of that locker room? Geeeeeeesh. Some dumb comments.
@binkybop9252
@binkybop9252 Ай бұрын
stupid. He’s saying he’s not paying 1.5 mil for a lineman who might be decent. You’re a clown
@TeeBoomer1988.
@TeeBoomer1988. Ай бұрын
It sounds Ike you going at BV for getting a player that he much needed 🤷🏾‍♂️
@winnemucca-sk5392
@winnemucca-sk5392 Ай бұрын
i don't really know what OU paid i read it was somewhere around 1 million. lsu got a visit so i doubt they were just offering a cookie cake and photo shoot. lsu has fired the last 2 coaches that won a national championship for them. i don't believe those boosters would sign up for nickel and diming players to stay for culture. We will see though
@haroldburton3725
@haroldburton3725 Ай бұрын
@@winnemucca-sk5392 The OU bid was 700K. Texas then came in with a slightly higher bid and OU had to up the ante so the kid went to where he and his mother wanted all the time. It's that simple. Nobody would have paid Williams a million bucks for a one-year rental.
@codymoring543
@codymoring543 Ай бұрын
I don't like that Brian Kelly lost Dominic Williams and he was saying well oklahoma bought him.. BV is notorious for saying he won't over pay. There's no way OU was the highest bidder. And the kid even said on X, "OU FANS YOU SHOULD BE THANKING MY LITTLE BROTHER"......... Brian Kelly just got out recruited
@claypennington602
@claypennington602 Ай бұрын
Exactly. And per his own words and his mom, OU was always the school to beat, which makes sense; we got him on campus during the spring game, his mom liked the SOUL mission we have, his family has known/been friends with the OC for a really long time. OU matched the offers other teams threw out after they tried to outbid OU, but they never outbid another school.
@23StudiosSports
@23StudiosSports Ай бұрын
It was reported he was offered near $1.5 mill by OU
@drwinstonOboogi
@drwinstonOboogi Ай бұрын
@@23StudiosSports LOL. LSU fans reported that on reddit.
@ndcoltsfan
@ndcoltsfan Ай бұрын
Same excuses he had at ND lol no context needed
@michaelbajorek1972
@michaelbajorek1972 Ай бұрын
I understand Kelly's philosophy. Unfortunately the game has changed. I support Kelly opinion. He should ignore the transfer portal and not pay a dime to his players. As a Razorback fan I hope Kelly gets his way.
@jmr1454
@jmr1454 Ай бұрын
Bull 💩. There’s not one single player they have signed out of the portal they didn’t pay for. SMH. Now I can except they are not going to overpay. SMH
@matthewcofield6251
@matthewcofield6251 Ай бұрын
That’s basically what Hugh Freeze has been saying too. Are coaches fighting back?
@thebono2415
@thebono2415 Ай бұрын
Josh must be doing really well to be able to afford different color t shirts now
@ndn4203
@ndn4203 Ай бұрын
This man crazy. He went to lsu for all the money and doesn’t wanna pay players to win like he’s still at notre dame and not lsu. Wooooow
@jevonjewel6421
@jevonjewel6421 Ай бұрын
Man get your money up
@tcsrx
@tcsrx Ай бұрын
If what Brian Kelly says is true he’s doing the right thing for his locker room. Mike Norvel at Florida State is also telling recruits the same.
@happynotredamefan3736
@happynotredamefan3736 Ай бұрын
Then we are in the The Twilight Zone
@chrisking5650
@chrisking5650 Ай бұрын
Except LSU offered the same amount. If I were you I would check it out first before hitching up with a "man" like Brian Kelly.
@justinbuckeyefirm5790
@justinbuckeyefirm5790 Ай бұрын
OHIO STATE is #1 program in cfb Josh, UGA was best 2 outta 3 years by 1 point one of those years
@brianberkshire9169
@brianberkshire9169 Ай бұрын
Brian Kelly himself was bought. That's why he's there. For him to criticize others for what he did is hypocritical.
@nathanworkman7041
@nathanworkman7041 Ай бұрын
U don’t understand his message and it shows it’s one thing being a coach and going to a program that’s better than the one u currently at then being a head coach and buying a player for more than anybody in the locker room is making it destroys the culture in the locker room and makes them think they aren’t as good as they really are and makes them want to transfer and look for money ur looking at it as Brian Kelly saying it and not as a head coach of a football team saying it
@jakevead9698
@jakevead9698 Ай бұрын
Williams asking price was $1.2 million Kelly told him we have a LT whose gonna be a top 5 pick and started every game since he was a freshman who doesn’t make that much. The other side of the argument is lsu has bodies at DL seniors and a 5 star freshman they just don’t have proven starters
@TexAgs75
@TexAgs75 Ай бұрын
Just win, baby!
@pJ-us2vl
@pJ-us2vl Ай бұрын
At Notre Dame BK couldn't win because he said the Chow Hall wasn't nice enough lol. He can't get it done at LSU and is whining again with a new excuse.
@A100-ND
@A100-ND Ай бұрын
LSU fans will learn in time. BK simply is not a Natty caliber coach, plain and simple.
@BayouBengals19
@BayouBengals19 Ай бұрын
Geaux tigers. We will have another natty in 2 or 3 years don’t you worry.
@A100-ND
@A100-ND Ай бұрын
Will not happen, sorry.
@DocScheffler
@DocScheffler Ай бұрын
I think this is more complicated than most think. Kelly didn't do a good job of explaining it. Yes, all of the great coaches sell their program. Great coaches don't start with "how much can we/will we pay you". For great teams, NIL closes the deal, it doesn't open the deal. With his explanation, Kelly is correct in selling the program. His attacking the NIL is either sour grapes, misspeaking or wrong.
@roystringfellow943
@roystringfellow943 Ай бұрын
Every coach I have ever heard says the same thing.
@alanrobinson9021
@alanrobinson9021 Ай бұрын
They all claim the same except when it comes to their own contracts that hold a Golden Parachute
@claytondavis488
@claytondavis488 27 күн бұрын
The issue with saying if day, saban or Kirby said it it would be okay, is Kelly’s not them. He’s never been able to get over that hump. Dabo saying it and getting raked over the coals is more similar and dabo is more successful than Kelly.
@alexkatsanos8475
@alexkatsanos8475 Ай бұрын
Still working out the NIL kinks. I like BK and I would wait years to build “the team”. Saban complained about every new change in college football. Then with a sigh he went out and did it better than anybody else
@ivansalazar5448
@ivansalazar5448 Ай бұрын
LSU will do just great on our DL...
@zacharyparkeroutdoors5894
@zacharyparkeroutdoors5894 Ай бұрын
LSU will always compete, no matter who lines up on the other side.
@Mike-sp7zv
@Mike-sp7zv Ай бұрын
Brian Dabo Kelly would have skipped on joe burrow
@neylandsmaxims
@neylandsmaxims Ай бұрын
Brian Kelly has been bought 3 or 4 times to go coach somewhere that was going to pay him more money. His taking any moral high ground about “buying players” makes him a hypocrite. These other schools are also selling development, culture, etc. They’re just willing to pay more money, and he’s crying.
@gnrdiscgolf1234
@gnrdiscgolf1234 Ай бұрын
Coach prime been saying this ...lol now more coaches are starting to follow
@TheQuintessentialBM
@TheQuintessentialBM Ай бұрын
What Brian Kelly said was an indirect insult to OU and the coaching staff. OU doesn't complain when programs use their bag men to buy up all of the blue chip OL guys from OU when Bill Bedenbaugh has the best track record for putting players in the NFL. Texas, USC and others wanted Damonic Williams... they could have given him the bag too. I cannot wait until OU plays LSU next season because OU gonna make Brian Kelly eat that shade he was throwing and humble the entire arrogant LSU fanbase. It's not as easy to beat OU when you don't have a month to prepare. Brian Kelly wasn't it at Notre Dame and he ain't it at LSU!
@lifeislikeaboxofchocolates5383
@lifeislikeaboxofchocolates5383 Ай бұрын
I mean I agree w him but if the defensive sucks cuz of the dline that's on him. Jus like it's on going to be on Daboo
@ivansalazar5448
@ivansalazar5448 Ай бұрын
We have a great coach in Brian Kelly at LSU. Is just that simple!
@aldoraine1400
@aldoraine1400 Ай бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with this perspective. The only problem is that the fans are going to disagree with this perspective when you end up going 1-4 against ole miss this decade (who uses the portal). When they come in to Death Valley this coming season and stomp your guts out, you might have to change your attitude about the portal.
@Phil4222
@Phil4222 Ай бұрын
It's just sour grapes for him to say it's the players fault he couldn't sell his program and culture. All teams are doing this. Tennessee Georgia Alabama are doing this. Compare his take vs heuple when asked the same. Question.
@hwyman01
@hwyman01 Ай бұрын
Texas A&M bought a class and look how that turned out
@apocwow1599
@apocwow1599 Ай бұрын
LOL. From the the guy leading the program that threw out more people than any other program even before it was legal.
@harryhoesch3793
@harryhoesch3793 Ай бұрын
Totally different from buying coaches, who's only career ending injuries are mental.
@jacobbjohns
@jacobbjohns Ай бұрын
It sounds like the same approach most of the better programs with the exception of Ohio State. Ohio State is a great program that currently looks desperate to win something of significance again and willing to pay anything for it.
@bri0013
@bri0013 Ай бұрын
Said it before and Ill say it again.. .LSU football has >>>NEVER
@ivansalazar5448
@ivansalazar5448 Ай бұрын
Matt Rhule must be in dire straits!
@rockytoptom
@rockytoptom Ай бұрын
As someone who ridicules Bryan Kelly at every opportunity - he's absolutely right about buying players. NO MORE PAYING PLAYERS - NO MORE TRANSFER PORTAL
@stasonsteagall356
@stasonsteagall356 Ай бұрын
There's no way to put that genie back in the bottle.
@danielhayes1880
@danielhayes1880 Ай бұрын
Geaux Tigers! 🐅 🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅🐅
@Tader6977
@Tader6977 Ай бұрын
Remember this is the same Brian Kelly who threw his players under the bus at note dame. He misses on players because they don't trust his greedy ass
@thebullyville
@thebullyville Ай бұрын
He shouldn't have anything to do with the NIL deal for the player...it's not supposed to be his decision.
@atchafalaya2835
@atchafalaya2835 Ай бұрын
You have to pay them now Pops. Its not 1970 anymore.
@504Teety
@504Teety Ай бұрын
That's not the point genius. What do u say to Will Campbell? The projected top 5 pick about a mid tier guy Making more than him? What do u tell Harold Perkins? Emery Jones? Bryce Underwood the # 1 PLAYER and QB ? Great decision... the winning programs are doing the same thing. We just had 3 guys in the 1st round a DT who didn't hit his stride until the last 4 games and went 2nd round. That little short term money when we just had 4 guys combine foe almost 100 million. It sets a terrible precedent and Oklahoma not gonna win shit and dude will probably be a 2nd round pick AT BEST probably lower and when that projection comes he will hit the portal again looking for another sucker
@RiosChavez-qz2yr
@RiosChavez-qz2yr Ай бұрын
Doesn’t work like that anymore unfortunately . You bought them at Notre Dane pre nik why not LSU
@codycutrer8818
@codycutrer8818 Ай бұрын
Let’s look at what that 1.2 million dollar player does in December.
@john-wh6mz
@john-wh6mz Ай бұрын
As a ND fan who had to deal with BK for a decade, I can tell you a few irrefutable facts. Kelly is never correct he's always full of shit lol. He never works hard enough. He will never win the big game He will always have an excuse His QB will always regress I feel bad for LSU fans lol
@sporttiger1766
@sporttiger1766 Ай бұрын
Except for last year the QB didn't regress....😂
@john-wh6mz
@john-wh6mz Ай бұрын
@@sporttiger1766 silly lsu fan. That wasn't his qb. It was a transfer. Like we keep telling you...just wait. This year will be particularly rough for you fans. You're looking at 4 losses if not 5. Kelly's already started the excuses. The good news is, LSU administration is way less patient than NDs. At lease LSU will have the good sense to fire him
@john-wh6mz
@john-wh6mz Ай бұрын
@@sporttiger1766 and it starts lmao. You Kelly lovers just lost your 5 star WR. Next you guys will lose underwood.
@shannonmarcantel7993
@shannonmarcantel7993 Ай бұрын
They’re paying player but outside of generational talent freshman come in with a reasonable deal then production on the field at LSU dictates their future NIL slotting.
@derladams903
@derladams903 Ай бұрын
When you over pay for undertalented all you’re buying is dissension.
@Fearlessleadr7
@Fearlessleadr7 Ай бұрын
when a guy wants to get paid more than Will Campbell and Harold Perkins to fill a roster hole he’s holding your W/L column as leverage instead of his talent. You’ve kinda already lost if you’re in that position as a team.
@ghostwalker89
@ghostwalker89 Ай бұрын
And look at our roster. While others are losing starting players, LSU has not and has not been paying ANYBODY 7 figures, not even close to that. Why have our starters decided to stay? We have two projected first rounders on the OL. We have a protected first rounder at LB. Why have none of them left? Why have we not even heard any thoughts of them leaving? Williams was asking for twice as much as our highest paid player. He must be out his effing mind! BK is building a program, not a single year.
@SusanGriffin-gd9ss
@SusanGriffin-gd9ss Ай бұрын
Thank you for your fair reporting.
@shawnandrews329
@shawnandrews329 Ай бұрын
He lost me at, "We don't buy players." Since when? LSU bought players when it wasn't even legal. Now, it's legal and everyone can do it, thus the hypocrisy. Get your money up!!!!
@sedricbanks3532
@sedricbanks3532 Ай бұрын
In 1985 LSU paid $10k for nationally recruited linebacker
@glennwilliams2950
@glennwilliams2950 Ай бұрын
Pate knows that. He’s just a mouthpiece for SEC coaches.
@robertbinder2743
@robertbinder2743 Ай бұрын
We have money, we decided not use 1.2 million on a player not worth 1.2 million
@shawnandrews329
@shawnandrews329 Ай бұрын
@@robertbinder2743 Regardless, if you're spending NIL on players, you're buying/renting players.
@claypennington602
@claypennington602 Ай бұрын
The fallacy here is that Kelly’s speech implies the other contenders for these ARE “paying” for players, when I can tell you, as an OU fan, that our NIL is no better than the average SEC team at the moment. I can’t speak to the other talent, but unless it’s Texas or Ole Miss or OSU or a few others, the vast majority of teams cannot afford to just “pay” for players, and are trying to sell players on the same stuff Brian is trying to sell them on.
@two40656
@two40656 Ай бұрын
We will see when he get into the last year of that contract and he's only won 8 games or less. I bet eat his words
@jpDragna
@jpDragna Ай бұрын
I wonder how long the lower bids last though. If collectives are able to help invest in facilities and staff to catch up to these teams (and I'm really only speaking to other B1G and SEC schools as there are probably only 5-6 teams outside those conferences who have the means to compete with them in terms of pure cash). There's a reason Saban left, there's a reason Kelly is whinging, and there's going to be reasons all the rich old white guard who are making $10+ million a year will be outspoken about the way other teams are building their rosters. If FSU makes another run with DJ and other "bought" players, if Miami figures out how to win with talent on their roster, if UCF makes a run at the Big 12, or Ole Miss plays themselves into an SEC title game over Alabama (even if they lose to Georgia)...those players will see they can make more money and be on winning teams. Also in terms of development, we're seeing players go to these camps paying trainers in the offseason big bucks (that they're making from NIL deals) to prep for the NFL. QBs used to always do these camps, but there are much smaller more personal training sessions, and its for players in all positions as they get NIL money to help them pay for things like development. I get what Kelly is saying here, and I don't disagree with him, I don't even think he's lying. Just for me, coming from the mouth of someone making just under $10 million a year to coach, it feels just crappy that they are low balling these players....and that he's disappointed they would rather make money than play for him the "right" way.
@UnconventionalSpark
@UnconventionalSpark Ай бұрын
Things being taken out of context, as per usual in the headline and clickbait times we live in
@JBillionzz
@JBillionzz Ай бұрын
Steve Sarkisian is full of it buying lambos for Isaiah Bond and buying all of Bamas players lol
@tracyblair6083
@tracyblair6083 Ай бұрын
My thing on this ! The game has turned into a pay to play game🤨. It wasn't hard to give them money before NIL so why close your pockets NOW!!! No coach should get what you get either!!!! Sit down and give back a couple of millions you are getting!!! You're not getting hit , these kids are!!! NCAA was supposed to have fixed the problem by putting a cap on the amount ANY NIL deals!!! Very, very simple!!! 🤔LSU just gave two coaches a pay raise 🤔🤔🤔 . I'm a tiger for life!!!! But join the race or get left behind!!!!!
@patrickandcourtneyl1348
@patrickandcourtneyl1348 Ай бұрын
Lots of words used on this point being made... seems to me the most convincing points are made using fewer words. Not wrong, just not strong.
@bryanrackard9268
@bryanrackard9268 Ай бұрын
Bottom line is Coach Kelly has to win . Doesn't matter how he does it! With or without NIL ! Only time will tell , but he wasn't brought to Baton Rouge to win 9, 10 games a season? He was paid big money to win National Championships !
@wattsinc.
@wattsinc. Ай бұрын
With Daniels and two 1st round receivers should have at least 10 wins just my opinion 🤷
@jarmalbrooks9005
@jarmalbrooks9005 Ай бұрын
An then Moore decommits
@truthseeker9688
@truthseeker9688 Ай бұрын
Of course B Kelley is correct.
@Justyouraveragetrashcan
@Justyouraveragetrashcan Ай бұрын
The problem is we can’t just put a mask on. He isn’t wrong but Kelly is also just setting himself up for if they fail he has a built in excuse. And if the team is good then hey look how good of a coach Kelly is for “over achieving” he did that constantly at notre dame
@doc8013
@doc8013 Ай бұрын
Nobody is gonna say anyone is overachieving at LSU. I don't think it's a built-in excuse, I think he's being honest about the program he's trying to run.
@user-xp6qd4sk1j
@user-xp6qd4sk1j Ай бұрын
@@doc8013 Overachieving for LSU means you winning titles. Second most titles since start of BCS.
@doc8013
@doc8013 Ай бұрын
@@user-xp6qd4sk1j then that's not overachieving lol.
@pierrerochon7271
@pierrerochon7271 Ай бұрын
@@doc8013 do not agree with you- justy is spot on
@doc8013
@doc8013 Ай бұрын
@@pierrerochon7271 on what part?
@joncare8083
@joncare8083 Ай бұрын
two words prove Kelly a liar: Bryce Underwood Bryce isn't coming to LSU for free.
@jarret81
@jarret81 Ай бұрын
What he said right over your head….Four words - Underwood recruit not portal
@joncare8083
@joncare8083 Ай бұрын
@@jarret81 A distinction without a difference. Buying players is buying players. NIL is fungible. A recruit or a transfer will get NIL packages.
@jarret81
@jarret81 Ай бұрын
@@joncare8083 he said he wants to build the program through recruiting , not the primary being portal..Underwood is a recruit - hence he didn’t lie …bad example on your part . You should’ve came with a high dollar portal player that he got .
@joncare8083
@joncare8083 Ай бұрын
@@jarret81 I'll give you that he doesn't want to pay for portal players--or so he says. I get that you love LSU. I get why you defend your coach. I like LSU. I always have. I've watched Kelly's career from GVSU to CMU to ND. He is a hypocrite even by the lax standards of CFB coaching hypocrisy. You'll see. Kelly buys players. Kelly made a choice to buy H.S. recruits. Kelly made a choice to not buy portal players. If buying players is fine in one instance then why not in the other? It is like being half-pregnant. Good Luck with Kelly.
@LayKxD
@LayKxD Ай бұрын
It is just really upsetting because on one side of the ball I am confident that Kelly is a top 5 Coach. He constantly builds and develops a good O-Line. He is constantly churning TE's. He is recruiting AMAZING at QB and WR level. But this is a two sided sport. I feel like this will come back to bite him in the ass in 2-3 years. This is all about perspective for an EXTREME fan base, me included. He decided NOT to spend money on addressing this issue. That is fine, cool. But let our defense be below average in conference for the 3rd year in a row, and he starts to develop the appearance of not knowing what he is doing on the defensive side, and NOT EVEN TRYING to fix it. Let him blow money in NIL on some defense palyers, if they don't pan out and we are still below SEC average, he at least tried and those players stink/staff did not develop them. But I would rather a staff fail at developing vs a staff not even try to get them in, in the first place. LSU has money. It is THE univeristy of Louisiana. Donors, sponsors, we produce chemical and oil money. LSU has money. Not using it in my opinion shows he is not taking it seriously on the defensive side of the ball. LSU easily wins 10 games last year if we had a top 50 defense, maybe 11 if we split Florida St and Bama.
@JJBTEXAS494
@JJBTEXAS494 Ай бұрын
Could be sour grapes, could be legit, could be both... but if you have the cash, and you don't spend it to make your team better, then it's a wasted resource. Now, maybe he's choosing to spend it on the guys he's got instead, and I think that's fair. I also think some of these guys asking for a ton of money could create culture problems. But, if you have a weakness in your team and you don't address it, you're not winning in the SEC. For some teams that have lower expectation for the year, that's fine. I don't think the people in Baton Rouge have low expectations, nor do I think they should.
@jacksonlebeouf3333
@jacksonlebeouf3333 Ай бұрын
“Making the team better” is a lot more than just paying the biggest free agent to come to your school, would the team really be better, if locker room morale is at a low because one guy who’s not proven within the team is making 1.2 million dollars unlike anyone else?
@doc8013
@doc8013 Ай бұрын
​@@jacksonlebeouf3333that's right. You don't go out and break the bank just because you can, especially for guys you don't think are worth it.
@cane870
@cane870 Ай бұрын
The bum d lineman was asking for $1.2 million and isn’t even better than the starters we have. That guy can go be a bum ass somewhere else.
@user-xp6qd4sk1j
@user-xp6qd4sk1j Ай бұрын
What if Bo Davis gets production from interior DLine. Top 4-5 were all highly ranked/recruited. He is one of the best. Godfather of DBU corey raymond will put a CB unit that can ball. When that happens it katie bar the door!!!!!!
@JJBTEXAS494
@JJBTEXAS494 Ай бұрын
@jacksonlebeouf3333 I did mention that, high dollar guys could mess with your locker room. And yes, you could just spend that money on your current team, but that doesn't uplevel your roster. So where does LSU go from here? They look thin at the position. If they weren't, Brian would have said so. He didn't. So again I ask, do we just lower the expectations?
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