25 Years Later - The StarCraft Prima Strategy Guide

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10 ай бұрын

StarCraft Pro goes over the StarCraft Prima Strategy Guide - how does it hold up 25 years later???
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@brandon23471
@brandon23471 10 ай бұрын
I like how you filmed the guide with a webcam from the same era to enhance the experience
@davidshakarisaz6364
@davidshakarisaz6364 10 ай бұрын
ahaha, I wonder if it has a focus adjustment, seems like it's out of focus.
@Undone007
@Undone007 10 ай бұрын
Lol...
@dontcrydoomer4787
@dontcrydoomer4787 10 ай бұрын
it's at the strangest angle xd
@MKP2W
@MKP2W 10 ай бұрын
The angle is so bizarre. It's like tilting your head OVER above the book and almost looking at it upside down instead of just looking down at the book, kinda making me sick alittle tbh.
@genehenson8851
@genehenson8851 10 ай бұрын
Haha
@DekkarMTBtl
@DekkarMTBtl 10 ай бұрын
4:45 Arty walked right into that one.
@ab-qj3wo
@ab-qj3wo 10 ай бұрын
Jokes aside up untill Bizu era PvZ was considered heavily Zerg favorite and one of the things he brought to the match up is early corsair usage that was never a thing before and this guy actually suggested it back in 1999. Holy hell, what a genious
@zes7215
@zes7215 6 ай бұрын
wrr
@mremwww
@mremwww 10 ай бұрын
2500 elo incomming !
@canag0d
@canag0d 10 ай бұрын
Lol nostalgia overload! I remember this book. Imagine learning The Craft from a book from 1998 lmao!
@zes7215
@zes7215 6 ай бұрын
wr
@whitneysmiltank
@whitneysmiltank 10 ай бұрын
mind controlling the queen to parasite the enemy zerg units LOLLL this is amazing
@BotRetro
@BotRetro 10 ай бұрын
Did Artosis try the medic flare against shuttles? I would love to see that!
@billybob-wx2re
@billybob-wx2re 6 ай бұрын
there's only one word for it and it's glorious
@TheMuffinBagare
@TheMuffinBagare 3 ай бұрын
But has it happened? Anyone know?
@Lingboysc2
@Lingboysc2 10 ай бұрын
I bought this at a used bookstore last year! What a gem
@THAC0MANIC
@THAC0MANIC 10 ай бұрын
i had this and used it alot long ago i saw this book being sold in a random store for like 50cents got it totaly just for the
@himethisisme
@himethisisme 10 ай бұрын
I used to build mass firebats as a kid against Protoss because of the table near the end of this guide where it has units vs their counters, because it said the counter to "Zealots" was "Firebats" It also famously said the counter to Dragoons was Dragoons/Reavers, but I was too annoyed by the slowness of the reaver to ever use it as a kid. It never occurred to me to use Shuttles so they'd take like 5 minutes to crawl across the map
@THAC0MANIC
@THAC0MANIC 10 ай бұрын
to be fair firebats are not terrible vs zealots but not the greatest XD i think the part that stuck with me the most is its custom map melee guide it had, it gave an example on how to make a 1v1 vs a very hard AI and it was pretty differcult with the settings it gave it required like a zerg opponant starting off with a number of bonus things vs you.@@himethisisme
@maximilianw9671
@maximilianw9671 10 ай бұрын
I would pay 100$ or more for a book like that written by Artosis. Can we get a kickstarter please??
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu
@Jamesgalc-gs8wu 10 ай бұрын
I'm on it.
@Ianuarius
@Ianuarius 10 ай бұрын
in a high iq trolling move he writes it solely about the single player missions
@jerrytealeaf
@jerrytealeaf 10 ай бұрын
I remember reading this book in bed before going to sleep as a child! My mom only let me play video games on the weekends so this was my way of pretending to play the game in my imagination.
@johnornelas
@johnornelas 10 ай бұрын
I do find it really bizarre that Prima didn't optimize this guide for people who have been playing the game exclusively for 30 years. Really dumb decision on their part
@shadowling77777
@shadowling77777 10 ай бұрын
Lmao
@zes7215
@zes7215 6 ай бұрын
wrg, no such thing as optix or exclux or dx or etc, cepuxua,x utx, can outx etc any nmw sperfx
@foxxxooo
@foxxxooo 2 ай бұрын
@@zes7215 stronk
@michaelcallisto
@michaelcallisto 10 ай бұрын
My dad got the Battle Chest Brood War bundle for us as kids that included that. I loved reading it
@dewwwd3431
@dewwwd3431 10 ай бұрын
Dude I bought the battle chest like 10 times because my siblings would throw away or break my copies or Starcraft because I played so much and hogged the computer
@straptvyoutube3900
@straptvyoutube3900 10 ай бұрын
Aw man, this brings back memories. The tides of darkness one was pretty cool too!
@Screboog
@Screboog 10 ай бұрын
The SC and BW books were AWESOME. Buying a strat guide was a part of buying a game back in the day!
@disiesgroto1881
@disiesgroto1881 10 ай бұрын
My favourite part of the non-expansion SC guide is how it recommends that Protoss just use Scouts to counter 25% of enemy units.
@jeremyduke4938
@jeremyduke4938 10 ай бұрын
Love to see you beat the entire brood war campaign with only scv's, probes, and drones (no static).
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 10 ай бұрын
Need to see that Optical flare vs shuttle in the next Snow game. It's not like there's anything to lose.
@somecooney5304
@somecooney5304 10 ай бұрын
Arty has actually convinced me, that Terran is the real A-move race.
@HardtoReach
@HardtoReach 10 ай бұрын
Always has been lol
@goaway7904
@goaway7904 10 ай бұрын
how
@Numenorean921
@Numenorean921 3 ай бұрын
more like A-move then o to siege, a-move o, a-move o, a-move o repeat
@YoungGandalf2325
@YoungGandalf2325 10 ай бұрын
The multiplayer section didn't mention how to deal with the lag of playing on a dial up connection. That was one of the most frustrating things for me back in the day. I bought the battle chest with these guides. The maps were useful for beating the single player campaign, but that was probably the only thing I used them for.
@Sapreme
@Sapreme 10 ай бұрын
I brought them to school so I could read Starcraft things during recess and lunch and show them to my friends lol
@4lc0h0l
@4lc0h0l 10 ай бұрын
What about medics with optical flare?
@shadowling77777
@shadowling77777 10 ай бұрын
@@Sapremesame lmao
@zoeinvestor
@zoeinvestor 10 ай бұрын
Please try optical flare on a reaver soon!!!
@AgentXRifle
@AgentXRifle 10 ай бұрын
^
@santana145
@santana145 10 ай бұрын
I'm eagerly awaiting artosis taunting his opponents about their unprotected flanks :)
@razorbackblood06
@razorbackblood06 10 ай бұрын
I have this book for both SC1 and brood war. Its a smaller version, like a pocket sized book. Pretty sure they were included with the SC1/Brood war 'battle chest' pack.
@shadowling77777
@shadowling77777 10 ай бұрын
Yup they were
@hentaidude666
@hentaidude666 10 ай бұрын
I don't have the prima starcraft strategy guide, but I do have the Brady games strategy guide. The author had a massive brainfart when writing that one, because on Brood war Terran 4 - the one where you kill 4 hives and bring Duran to the Psi disruptor. They repeatedly call overlords overminds, and it tells you to kill the overminds to prevent dropping on the low ground and to supply block the zerg. It has tons of tiny errors like that
@empty5013
@empty5013 10 ай бұрын
excited for arty to do: firebat only queen only high templar only
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 10 ай бұрын
The epic engineering feat of bunker/turret hopping. Sunken + ensnare. Cannon + templar + archon
@NSanityBringer
@NSanityBringer 10 ай бұрын
I found a copy of the base Starcraft strategy guide on my bookshelf a while ago, and I was honestly amused by some of the details it got wrong, like it implying that Dark Swarm only protected ground units against air units. The game manual doesn't describe it very well either, to be fair, but I don't think it's too hard to realize it works against all ranged.
@pointlessmanatee
@pointlessmanatee 10 ай бұрын
what an amazing video. hard to find content on this level on youtube
@jeremyhorvath2052
@jeremyhorvath2052 10 ай бұрын
I remember taking this book to school and trying to teach all my friends about how to win against the cpu by making 12 carriers... good times
@BayCyst
@BayCyst 8 ай бұрын
Amazing.
@jakovmatosic4890
@jakovmatosic4890 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see rt attempt single player challanges like beating the game with one unit.
@steampunkwhale2280
@steampunkwhale2280 10 ай бұрын
Did he try optical flare against shuttle/reaver?
@highhow
@highhow 10 ай бұрын
I need to know if this happens
@unclemugen
@unclemugen 10 ай бұрын
not yet, he only got 1 game after reading the guide and it was tvt
@ZaZen___
@ZaZen___ 10 ай бұрын
Yeah holy shit I'm wondering if using flare on the reavers themselves might also have some use cases. But the shuttle is better prio. Apparently Boxer flared observers with cloak wraith followup back in the day lol
@ShjadeNexayre
@ShjadeNexayre 10 ай бұрын
@@ZaZen___ If there's a Terran gimmick possible, it's a safe bet SlayerS_'BoxeR' has at the very least tried it, and probably even made it work at least once.
@HundredJono
@HundredJono 10 ай бұрын
I still have my Starcraft and Starcraft: Brood War strategy guides! When I was a kid I can't count how many times I went through each book to look at the pictures and read the cheats on the last page haha.
@ottopippenger1590
@ottopippenger1590 10 ай бұрын
I have remembered that "human players like to build 35 siege tanks, but you can never really know" line for... 24, 25 years now? Jesus christ.
@DazjaRoux
@DazjaRoux 10 ай бұрын
I saw the title. I knew it was going to be amazing. I was not disappointed.
@shevek5934
@shevek5934 10 ай бұрын
Oh man! I had that book as a little kid! I bet it's still on a shelf somewhere.
@markjones3809
@markjones3809 10 ай бұрын
"i hope your flanks protected"
@Xpwnxage
@Xpwnxage Ай бұрын
This is something I always say on the first date
@garrettwilson4754
@garrettwilson4754 10 ай бұрын
I really wanna see the optical flare play
@ice_fox
@ice_fox 10 ай бұрын
Lol.. I swear Arty's stream is the modern version of the Gorgeous George show (older public access show that was constantly trolled by fake callers).
@kayDawgTV
@kayDawgTV 10 ай бұрын
I’m perfectly fine with this comparison.
@skyvipers
@skyvipers 10 ай бұрын
@ 25:38 - If you mind control a Shuttle with Reaver inside, does the Reaver get MC'd to your side too?
@killerpotato9952
@killerpotato9952 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, anything in it the shuttle joins you, it's part of a speedrun strategy for the campaign
@parachase7467
@parachase7467 10 ай бұрын
no, the reaver fires on the shuttle from the inside and everything explodes
@asesinonabo
@asesinonabo 10 ай бұрын
@@parachase7467 there is no space for betraying, reaver says
@maxbachvaroff1967
@maxbachvaroff1967 10 ай бұрын
I like how Arty used optical flare on the camera before filming
@lucasye-kt5pt
@lucasye-kt5pt 10 ай бұрын
imagine the first thing it said in the Mission section was just the line, "There is no cow level" and rest is just blank pages until the Multiplayer section.
@Techfuse13
@Techfuse13 10 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the Flank video/clip.
@MrAndersonmm
@MrAndersonmm 10 ай бұрын
I think I still have mine somewhere - used to read it a lot, actually, when trying to learn.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 10 ай бұрын
I bet it says on the first page “Protoss bad AP”
@55Aavenue
@55Aavenue 10 ай бұрын
I still have that book! I bought the broodwar box set back in 1999!
@carismo9502
@carismo9502 4 ай бұрын
9:32 that added at least 5 years to my life span, thank you RT
@owendavis3500
@owendavis3500 10 ай бұрын
Wow the memories, I used to read this when I was a little kid like 5-10 years old, I wonder where my copy is now.
@IYPITWL
@IYPITWL 10 ай бұрын
I still have my Total Annilihaton strat guide. Its full of notes to beat the single player missions. They were a lot harder than BW but the multiplayer is less competitive. Every match is basically zvz and resources are unlimited.
@kdavid123186
@kdavid123186 10 ай бұрын
Damn that was one of my game I used to play when I was bored of sc. wow good times
@kromo770
@kromo770 10 ай бұрын
The fact they put huge margins on every page to pad its length (and size) should give you a hint to the quality. Still, it's pretty funny.
@TOSPEEDFIRE13
@TOSPEEDFIRE13 10 ай бұрын
That was brilliant and so hilarious thank you arty 😂
@MasterFXPL
@MasterFXPL 6 ай бұрын
I would really enjoy seeing Artosis playing Slay the Beast mission. I find it incredibly difficult, I wonder how a pro handles it.
@sams5658
@sams5658 10 ай бұрын
I really hope there’s a part 2
@sulik682
@sulik682 10 ай бұрын
4:35 Kicking it off with a BANG LLLLLLLLLLLLLL
@Redtornado6
@Redtornado6 10 ай бұрын
When I was young I made my mom read it to me before I could read. I knew every fact about every unit. I probably knew game values more accurately than flash. I could recite every units stats and every buildings stats and build time.
@HeatIIEXTEND
@HeatIIEXTEND 10 ай бұрын
wew, better than expected.
@bricktastic-acular1298
@bricktastic-acular1298 10 ай бұрын
oh my i still have my prima strategy guide, I would read it religiously as a kid, especially when I was grounded and bored.
@Tootbook
@Tootbook 10 ай бұрын
Oh god this is gonna be gooooooooooood
@lotgc
@lotgc 6 күн бұрын
Aw man, I remember when I was a kid, I had the sc battlechest and it had one of these for the original and for bw. It's cool to look through it again 😂
@kingheenokgaming4783
@kingheenokgaming4783 10 ай бұрын
I had this book. Was the best thing.
@attention_shopping
@attention_shopping 10 ай бұрын
Amazing
@wallacelovecraft8942
@wallacelovecraft8942 10 ай бұрын
I wish the webcam clear and not blurry. I know this vid is going to be a nice watch.
@DarkTemplar42
@DarkTemplar42 10 ай бұрын
I still have this book for brood war and original!
@leftnao
@leftnao 10 ай бұрын
The one about the flank and the queen mindcontrol are the best
@loredo182
@loredo182 10 ай бұрын
You should read the whole book and post it in parts here, it would be amazing lol.
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 10 ай бұрын
90% of it is the singleplayer campaign which is what 99% of players back then cared about lol
@SirWtfcharles
@SirWtfcharles 10 ай бұрын
I've still got mine om the bookshelf in my living room :D
@samuelserdar5884
@samuelserdar5884 10 ай бұрын
Sadly i can't remember first time when i watch Star Craft but i remember my first playing with zerg. Amazing moment in my life. That`s was happen in year 1999 years.
@andrewredmon4525
@andrewredmon4525 10 ай бұрын
Still have my copy somewhere. Bathroom reading for years this was
@nicholasbrown5970
@nicholasbrown5970 6 ай бұрын
nostalgic nerd chills i had that when i was a kid.
@jessegollan7790
@jessegollan7790 10 ай бұрын
I remember being showm "black sheep wall" by a friend. Blew my mind
@knighthawk2062
@knighthawk2062 10 ай бұрын
4:30 this mother fuckin donate right here gets me... Lol!!! I'm absolutely dying on the floor, laughing like a maniac!
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 10 ай бұрын
Artosis needs to track down the author and just do an interview in terms of where starcraft and strategy games are and if he ever thought starcraft could become what it is.
@bartmon
@bartmon 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm the author (yep, Bart Farkas). When I was writing the first Starcraft book, Blizzard had already released Warcraft and it was very successful. I wrote both of these Starcraft books in a darkened testing office in Irvine at Blizzard's campus there (basically LA), because the software was not allowed to leave the building (for obvious reasons). I wrote both books entirely by the seat of my pants working with a beta and almost entirely on my own. Ultimately, I'm happy with how they've stood up. And yep, when I was working on the first (the original) StarCraft book I remember telling both Bill Roper and the publisher that this was going to be a big hit.
@gymfamily
@gymfamily 10 ай бұрын
wait wtf is this real @@bartmon
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 10 ай бұрын
@@bartmon Wow I didn't expect you to reply! This was super interesting to read.
@darinladd5312
@darinladd5312 6 ай бұрын
kinda nice to hear you are still around the community...what are your thoughts 25yrs on...?
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ 10 ай бұрын
I got into RTS in the early 2000s, sadly I didn't play Starcraft until years later (after SC2 came out) I just didn't know
@MatildaHinanawi
@MatildaHinanawi 10 ай бұрын
Can you email a link of this video to the book's author, just so they can get to see this? They deserve to see this.
@Tetrayahtin-77777
@Tetrayahtin-77777 Ай бұрын
I had that book 💜
10 ай бұрын
My tears 😔❤
@thuperman5228
@thuperman5228 10 ай бұрын
hold on... that is actually legit to optical flare reavers and shuttles. You must try this a couple medics with optical flare rush!
@protoseargeant
@protoseargeant 10 ай бұрын
I had that book!
@canag0d
@canag0d 10 ай бұрын
@2:57 lmao I was crying!
@Elyvilon
@Elyvilon 10 ай бұрын
cannot believe the Prima Strategy Guide taught people to DT Rush
@jojo-hn8cx
@jojo-hn8cx 10 ай бұрын
Artosissss
@flappy7373
@flappy7373 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see flared shittles.
@leftnao
@leftnao 2 ай бұрын
19:10 prima guide holding truth for decades
@invisiblemenproduction
@invisiblemenproduction 10 ай бұрын
Dude Optical flare on shuttle?? That’s so sick
@JJ-Toreddie
@JJ-Toreddie 9 ай бұрын
Damn, I remember the day Brood war was released. I downloaded the game but couldn't play online so My friend and I went into the store, found the game box and opened it up, and wrote down the CD Key. The good ole days.....
@housemana
@housemana 2 ай бұрын
9:34 Arty playing 4d gaslight chess with chat lmaoo and we all thought he was using a shit camera for no reason what a gaslight god 🤣😂
@pointlessmanatee
@pointlessmanatee 10 ай бұрын
can't wait for the author of this strategy guide to win next asl with optical flares
@ryutou-ki4dl
@ryutou-ki4dl 10 ай бұрын
its funny cuz i still have mine. i have all the og blizzard games strat guides. are they worth money?
@kataskopos
@kataskopos 10 ай бұрын
people will defend arty for at least having integrity despite being toxic but then you see him complaining about smurfs with a straight face while every other stream he plays with a different ID
@Lykyk
@Lykyk 10 ай бұрын
Has he tried the optic flare build out yet?
@BotRetro
@BotRetro 9 ай бұрын
Do that Medic Flare build against shuttles! It's been a month!
@jeremyhorvath2052
@jeremyhorvath2052 10 ай бұрын
as a casual, the last couple brood war zerg campaign missions are actually so hard. Please try to do it with one unit I beg you
@montyfacker
@montyfacker 10 ай бұрын
i only get 360p ?
@Mr2mellow
@Mr2mellow 10 ай бұрын
would be cool to find the author and do an interview
@CrayZtwin1
@CrayZtwin1 10 ай бұрын
I used to have that !!! I think it’s hiding in a box somewhere…
@bouz07
@bouz07 10 ай бұрын
I love how it started with thinking that he was going to dog on the writer.
@simeongeorgiev1107
@simeongeorgiev1107 10 ай бұрын
I was rolling on the floor laughing at min 9:42 hhahahahaha - best moment
@decksteroussnail
@decksteroussnail 10 ай бұрын
Before clickbait KZfaq guides, we had Prima Strategy
@Lappmogel
@Lappmogel 10 ай бұрын
There is nothing in there about burrowing your zerg units and ambushing enemies?
@RoodyPoo
@RoodyPoo 10 ай бұрын
I think thats in the original guide, burrow tech wasn't new in brood war.
@Lappmogel
@Lappmogel 10 ай бұрын
@@RoodyPoo oh yeah, i think you're right.
@THAC0MANIC
@THAC0MANIC 10 ай бұрын
So was thinking Artosis said any unit, how about worker only?
@dewwwd3431
@dewwwd3431 10 ай бұрын
If you’re Zerg or Protoss yes. Can make sunken and cannon. Terran however would be incredibly hard but not impossible would just need a shit fuck ton of minerals to keep attacking with them
@THAC0MANIC
@THAC0MANIC 10 ай бұрын
air levels / island levels be differcult if not impossible gotta use transports after all to get the workers across thats another unit.@@dewwwd3431
@AgentXRifle
@AgentXRifle 10 ай бұрын
4:34 actually burst out laughing so hard, one of the best donations ever!
@PoliteElliot
@PoliteElliot 10 ай бұрын
What happened to the author, are they still playing? Would love to see a grudge match!
@vladfi1
@vladfi1 10 ай бұрын
For the longest time I was confused why tanks can micro vs dragoons and I eventually found out it was because the Prima strategy guide listed them as having 6 range when really they have 7, meaning they slightly outrange goons. It also gets the ranges wrong for upgraded Marines (says 6, actually 5) and most importantly for Ghosts (says 6, actually 7).
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 10 ай бұрын
For the longest time I was confused why the Zealot HP/Shield was different in the book until I realized there were actually like 3 balance patches before they stopped touching it.
@bartmon
@bartmon 10 ай бұрын
Hey there, I wrote the book. This doesn't surprise me because back then Strat guides were written on betas and had to be finished before the final polish on the game happened. This is because it took two weeks to print the book and get it to stores to be there on the day the game released. So basically, those stats were given to me directly from Blizzard probably less than wee before the book went to press, but Blizzard was still tweaking those numbers right until the end, so that 2-3 week gap is why the numbers in the book are likely wrong.
@vladfi1
@vladfi1 10 ай бұрын
@@bartmon woah, cool to hear you chiming in! And thanks for the explanation, that makes a lot of sense.
@vladfi1
@vladfi1 10 ай бұрын
Also I have to say I adored these books as a kid, reading them was almost as fun as playing the games.
@spradoontz
@spradoontz 10 ай бұрын
Shit I remember getting this in the battlechest!
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