$28 vs $280 Gaming Mouse - Has Razer gone TOO FAR?

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The Razer Viper Mini Signature Edition is one of the world's most expensive gaming mice but is it actually worth it versus Razer's cheapest gaming mouse, the original Razer Viper Mini?
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0:00 - Razer Signature Edition Unboxing
0:31 - Viper Mini SE vs Viper Mini
1:05 - 4K Hz PROBLEM (Dead Space / EFT / CS:GO / Aim Lab)
2:16 - Viper Mini Signature Edition Buttons and Weight
3:13 - WHY SO $$$? (Magnesium Alloy Explained)
4:25 - Mouse Shell... and the "holes"
5:17 - Build Quality
5:53 - Signature Edition Accessories
6:14 - Gaming Experience (CS:GO)
7:59 - MUST KNOW Facts about the Viper Mini SE!
8:49 - For $280, Can you do Better?
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@Ziakel Жыл бұрын

The is the same area as custom keyboards. You can get same thing for a lot cheaper and does the same job. Diminish value return greatly increases as you go up in price.

@trailfork7815 Жыл бұрын

imagine comparing custom artisan keyboards to razer that's like comparing a lada to a lambo

@Ziakel Жыл бұрын

@@trailfork7815 imagine paying $280+ for a keyboard v. a $280 mouse. Both serves a same job at the end of the day with diminishing return values.

@twistedfantasyy Жыл бұрын

@@Ziakel this. keyboard enthusiasts need to get their head out of their asses. people who love mice and are enthusiasts will definitely get this like they did the starlight which has way worse qc compared to this one.

@doge8153 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@trailfork7815that doesn’t make sense. The Razer/gaming keyboard destroys the custom in terms of performance

@trailfork7815 2 ай бұрын

@@doge8153 if I'm spending more than $200 on a keyboard I would not even touch a razer with a 10 foot pole. I'll never spend another cent on a plastic pile shit keyboard no matter how marginally good it is

@yukioadams9338 Жыл бұрын

Yes they have, this mouse is ridiculous 280$, the Viper Ultimate is 99$ CAD almost all year round.

@akerouge3519 Жыл бұрын

Razer states up to 60 hours of battery life on their official spec page. While it isn't indicated, it should be based on 1K Hz polling rate and not 4K Hz. I've tried the Basilisk V3 Pro myself and I have the 4K Hz dongle. Battery life is abysmal on 4K Hz no matter what. On the Basilisk V3 Pro, it has a 90 hours battery life on 1K Hz and just about 24 hours on 4K Hz. Extrapolate that information and the Viper Mini Signature Edition will only run roughly 16 hours on 4K Hz. Add on the fact that 4K Hz is still not supported by quite a number of popular titles, it would be a meaningless feature to me should I own this mouse. Oh and should the situation on the Viper Mini Signature Edition be the same as the Basilisk V3 Pro, you wouldn't be able to use 4K Hz on wired while it's charging. All in all, would just stick to 1K Hz.

@Shyvorix Жыл бұрын

4k Hz is definitely a pure luxury feature unless you're playing an eSports game and are playing at a very high rank (essentially max rank games + faceit)

@stateofmortality1908 Жыл бұрын

You need to go outside more if you need more than 24 hours of battery life on a mouse. Also, it takes like 15 minutes to charge to 50%, 30 to get to 70%, and like 47 ish minutes to full from drained. Thats more than fine in my book.

@HR_Hastam 12 күн бұрын

as a wired viper mini user , I would LOVE a normal viper mini wireless without a ridiculous price. it would be one the best wireless mice in the market

@karrde593 Жыл бұрын

Its a marketing experiement. You could argue razer have been doing it for a while, but i just hope we don't lose the amazing products razer actually produce once they get as far appling themselves as they can. Happened with apple.

@CellarDoorCS Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they like to throw whatever ideas they have, and then see what stick. I fell for their silicone mousepad, that came in a fancy case - this was ~10ago. It deteriorate to being unusable in about 6 months. Never seen another mousepad like that from them again...

@markojovanovic9651 Жыл бұрын

It is crazy to me to think that this got sold out in less than 1 minute.. How many people actually payed that price lmao

@Arek_R. Жыл бұрын

Magnesium alloy casting is not that expensive. It's very commonly used like on a $100 ikea table ass a piece connecting leg to the table. Or like motor frame in a $20 hand blender. Expense could possibly come from the need to finish machine the cutouts on some crazy 6 axis CNC due to the shape.

@Ziakel Жыл бұрын

dont forget logistics, marketing, packaging for maximum profit

@kevinw0lf Жыл бұрын

CNC definitely ups the cost and depending on how fine they want it to be, it might be a yield problem too.

@riba2233 Жыл бұрын

Yeah it is a very involved process for this kind of a shape

@skitariisoldier7367 Жыл бұрын

Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how expensive molds are?

@pkennethv Жыл бұрын

Not that I immediately take what Razer says at face value (e.g. their original Razer keyboard switches they claimed they "engineered") but for whatever Razer's word is worth, they claim that because of the intricacies of this particular design & their "0 tolerance" for defects, that for this mouse in particular, they can only use each mold once, and even then, the reject rate is "quite high"

@djaybeetoo Жыл бұрын

I use a normal viper as my gaming mouse, as a southpaw, mouse options are limited. I have no complaints, i even bought a spare one, when the current one stops working.

@-opus Жыл бұрын

As a southpaw the best option is to switch to using the mouse with your right hand, I did it a couple of decades ago.

@djaybeetoo Жыл бұрын

@@-opus i am a stubborn southpaw, i even play guitar left handed like jimi hendrix lol

@-opus Жыл бұрын

@@djaybeetoo I am very left handed, but while I resisted at first, the switch to right handed mousing was obvious to me, every single time I went to use another persons computer! It was surprisingly easy. I guess the benefit of playing a guitar like Jimi is that you can still use a right handed guitar ;)

@Focusbreak-Habeeb Жыл бұрын

I'll stick with my Naga Pro V2. Maaaaaybe if they introduce the lightweight shell to the Naga, I might consider it. Maybe.. but I love my mouse as it is :D

@morriswu3953 Жыл бұрын

I really want to upgrade my Viper Ultimate, but I will not buy a wireless mouse without a charging stand.

@Juice_VI Жыл бұрын

This new video format is great!

@paulmartinez34 Жыл бұрын

Two more versions is coming i hope one of those will include a viper mini wired 8khz

@Itz_notjer Жыл бұрын

I can bet that the leather box, the 4000hz dongle , glass skates, extra ptfe skates plus mircrofibre cloth are alll at least half of that damn $280 price tag, razer why cant u just give people the mouse itself, i dont care about the extra goodies that im paying for

@maxlu2456 Жыл бұрын

on a manufacturing standpoint, all that is dirt cheap. They bundle it in because without it, it would be near impossible to ask for $280.

@MP_7 Жыл бұрын

So about this magnesium alloy...after a lot of time using the mouse there are not going to be visible signs of use on the buttons?

@Dr_cHeNGo Жыл бұрын

my problem with the viper mini was the lod... i always ended up looking to an other direction when lifted the mouse and placed it again. Did razer improve this behaviour with the wireless version?

@digitalfruitcake24 10 ай бұрын

Yes, the upgraded sensor does not suffer from the same lod issues.

@user-qn1zj5bs5p Жыл бұрын

Fractal ridge isn't gen 4 , it's gen 3 riser card, it's been listed in their website

@riba2233 Жыл бұрын

Great review as usual Dimitri :)

@thereallantesh Жыл бұрын

$280 for a mouse? That's just nuts. I realize that for high end competitive gaming you need a very capable mouse, but you don't need to spend that much money to get one.

@wololo10 10 ай бұрын

Can't find it for 280, maybe 350-360

@AonoVro 8 ай бұрын

@@wololo10 on the official site its 280 for resellin its crazy high tho

@basshead. 7 ай бұрын

People pay much more for paintings and they are more useless than that mouse.

@lil----lil Жыл бұрын

NO wireless charging. Missed opportunity.

@its_atomic04 Жыл бұрын

you can remove the stutters with enabling raw input buffer in most games

@-Ambos- Жыл бұрын

any information or idea about a release date for the normal viper mini wireless?

@cofffin Жыл бұрын

Very nervous for Saturday night. I hope I can grab one before they sell out.

@Techx4 Жыл бұрын

The Razer Viper is my standard for mouse use but when it comes to the Mini signature edition? Nah, I'll wait for the plastic version. I meaan $280 is a bit much even though Razer packed a lot into the box to justify the price. I also have the Viper Mini and MAN! at 61g, I feel like I'm holding a sheet of paper so I can imagine 49g with the Signature Edition. As far as the triangular perforations? I believe Razer would have been better off with a plastic version and a solid shell. I get they're tryin to be fancy but keep with what works for the rest of us gamers.

@Rocnolia Жыл бұрын

So... my honest 2 cents on that: considering that even on the site it`s not listed in the ``viper`` tab but as a ``signature``, and the limited edition stuff linked to this new label, this mouse more than a everyday use mouse is thought as a collector piece. Considering that i can see why it`s priced like that, it makes sense to me. It`s like a very ``conceptual`` mouse that usually you can`t buy but just use in events and conventions, but this time you can actually buy it untill the `` limited edition`` strikes. This kind of marketing it`s a thing in many other segments like, as mentioned, watches industries... the new thing is applying it to a mouse! what do ya thinks, folks?

@josuad6890 Жыл бұрын

I agree with this assessment. Hell, they even hinted at the whole thing with a watch box and all.

@kaijuTIVI Жыл бұрын

Hearing that a standard cheaper definitely version is music to my ears.

@Collin_J Жыл бұрын

I've had to use the Orochi V2 because there wasn't a wireless mini and our cat is an idiot who loves to eat cords. I'll be interested to see if the Viper Mini Wireless can stay below $40

@Aerobrake Жыл бұрын

getting the ridge, should be here soon. gettiung that 4.0 riser card after I get the case.

@zndxt1970 Жыл бұрын

the pff when u killed one dude and 2 bots in short got me rolling on the ground xD

@CronusTheGreat 11 ай бұрын

also in aimlabs, did you make sure to use a different USB hub than the main one your keyboard and everything else is plugged into? 2 devices running over 1000mhz plus a camera etc on the same hub WILL bottleneck your USB hub

@AimAdapt Жыл бұрын

I don't get any stutter issues at all using 4k with my VIPER V2 PRO or my G-Wolves 4k MICE in aim lab grid shot. Can you please tell me the specs of your system system? Also what monitor - Resolution and refresh rate?

@ecapsdira Жыл бұрын

some mice on 4k end up polling lower for a number of reasons. can you check with some software if you are running at 4k consistently?

@AimAdapt Жыл бұрын

@@xDoMeRaSx No issues at all. I verified everything

@AimAdapt Жыл бұрын

@@ecapsdira Software for Razer and Gwolves is verified at 4k

@ecapsdira Жыл бұрын

@@AimAdapt do you mean with the gwolves and razer software or outside software? I meant to say razer and gwolves may say it's at 4k but with websites that can test polling rate some ppl say it's actually at 2k

@xblur17 Жыл бұрын

People with unoptimized systems get stuttering and issues at 4k. People who don't update firmware, who don't turn off c-states in bios, who don't know about the mouse needing to be isolated in a USB tree when it runs at 4k+, etc. I've been running 4k polling for over a year and only VERY few games actually give me problems. It just exposes bad hardware/software optimization because it requires such fast responses from your CPU and windows.

@META313. Жыл бұрын

‘You feel this massive holes when you make contact with the body’ yes

@GaudyMarko Жыл бұрын

im curious about the magnesium frame, but i'd never spend that much on a mouse

@myttri6417 Жыл бұрын

i have the starlight it’s just kinda like cold plastic

@joelconolly5574 Жыл бұрын

The real question is why use magnesium on the Viper mini instead of Deathadder or Viper V3s?

@maxdes19 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely hope they make a V3 with this magnesium body! I could do without the holes and leather box though lol

@whoisthatthingwhat Жыл бұрын

Because its just a collectors piece to make money, their magnesium alloy doesnt make the mouse lighter.

@dour8701 8 ай бұрын

soooo was the wireless version of the mini the cobra today? vruh

@Kentish9494 Жыл бұрын

Thing is there are plebs and social media influencers out there that will snap this up and tell you it's the "best mouse evvvaaaa" hence why companies produce these and put idiotic price tags on them. $280 for a frigging mouse ... let that sink in

@dmannion81 Жыл бұрын

I was able to snag one from the Reddit early drop that's already shipped out today. I watched the public drop and it was almost instantly gone probably from bot services people pay for to snipe buy them. the public one had a glitch when I viewed the website and said $238 (corporate discount applied) and then when I refreshed it said out of stock so I bet some of those scalpers got them for $238 unfortunately.

@KalebSikora Жыл бұрын

I somehow managed to get one from Razer's website. According to the plaque on my box, I am number 886 out of 1337. So they only produced 1337 apparently.

@shockat5070 Жыл бұрын

7:01 bros clutching on deathmatch :D

@ColdCassidy Жыл бұрын

we are still waiting for that "Soon" release of the regular mini wireless, damn you Razer

@teatimeboy3240 Жыл бұрын

1000hz works perfectly fine. Just keep it that way 😅

@TrungNguyen-qs8uq Жыл бұрын

280$ huh?! Let's buy 10 Viper mini for 10 years usage

@jordandungca3312 Жыл бұрын

Id like to see a comparison with the starlight tenz and this mouse

@ThoughtSpirals Жыл бұрын

We rarely get to see Dmitry play, but watching the CSGO run was sooo satisfying

@SooFragZ Жыл бұрын

he’s playing against bots 🙃

@vonnhh Жыл бұрын

I really can't wait to get the normal wireless viper mini

@wotwot6868 Жыл бұрын

Does it have that crap bloatware that shows up when you connect the mouse?

@oes2546 Жыл бұрын

I would have spent $100 on the Deathadder v3 Pro. But it’s $170 in my country, so Razer didn’t get any of my money, and I got the G-Wolves Skoll for $60 instead. $110 more for the Deathadder… Wow 😂

@MrPruske Жыл бұрын

i would use a leave-in ,agnetic connector and plug the mouse in to charge when not in use. almost a dock.

@aminemohamed1717 Жыл бұрын

This mouse with wooting 60HE and artisan mousepad + the best headset (IDK) 🔥🔥🔥

@mayureshpatil1873 Жыл бұрын

Man what setup do you use

@no-yg9zq Жыл бұрын

4khz stuttering in aimlab is just your pc not being sufficiently optimized. it works all the way up to 8khz without flaws for me, and countless others.

@clamustoh2546 Жыл бұрын

i suppose. it's a nice buy for those who miss out on finalmouse starlights and do not want to buy at resale price

@TrynaBeCray 10 ай бұрын

Imo they should have made cut outs on the bottom instead of the top

@crimsonjessi Жыл бұрын

can't wait to pick this up on black friday lol

@magicbeanman772 Жыл бұрын

4khz is not working is not really an engine thing, you can get it to run on every game no fps dips. just need to optimize your windows a bit. Run as little programs as possible. Make surer you are on a stable oc or clock speeds good ram timings and windows 11 helps alot.

@camotech1314 Жыл бұрын

Both the Viper Mini and Deathadder Mini are underrated mice!!😬

@vonnhh Жыл бұрын

ye the viper mini for me is the best, it fits my hands really well

@camotech1314 Жыл бұрын

@@vonnhh my hands are a bit larger so I ended up getting a white viper on a deal recently, but I love it!!😎

@notpg420 Жыл бұрын

I guess they are thinking that this can compete with finalmouse as they went with the 49g weight

@kozmix17 Жыл бұрын

Hello. On social media, there are many rumors that phones will be like this in the future as they can expand upon reservation, transparent, hologram... etc. My question is, do you think these rumors will be true in the future, or will the phones retain their current rectangular prism shape and can be put into a pocket? Option A in the survey can keep their current shape exactly, but those who say that we can enlarge the images on the screen with a 3D hologram from inside the screen can mark it when desired. Option B can be worn on the wrist like a bracelet, it can stretch when pulled, those who say they can't even relate to their current shape can mark it. Thank you for your answers in advance A or B

@ColByte Жыл бұрын

You check your USB tree to make sure it's alone?

@jonscot8393 Жыл бұрын

My Mionix does the job nicely thanks Razor

@yj677 Жыл бұрын

dont usually like the holes in mice but that ones kinda badass. gonna have to wait for price to drop though lol.

@hennwei Жыл бұрын

i dont think it will. i believe razer mentioned its a limited run item. so it'll probably only go up in price on the second hand market. like the starlight.

@Shyvorix Жыл бұрын

@@hennwei only the first 1337 units will have a designated one out of, otherwise they'll continue making these so they're not limited run.

@garmar704 Жыл бұрын

I'd be accidentally filling that thing up with cheezie crumbs

@JustKanji Жыл бұрын

If some people are willing to pay 280$ for a mouse I don't blame razer for releasing a 280$ mouse. That said I personally see no practical justification for that price tag, it's a little ridiculous when there's so many good wireless mice that cost less than half.

@billzabub55 Жыл бұрын

Every part of pc gaming is getting waaaaay too expensive. All these companies are milking gamers for every cent we have.

@eepyhead Жыл бұрын

inflation.

@MrPruske Жыл бұрын

1:30 so many games only work without stutter at 2k polling, and windows doesnt even like 4 or 8k polling most of the time. X.X needs fixing

@mikekonkola1231 Жыл бұрын

My hand is like 18 by 10 cm. This shape is like one of the few mice I can claw the way I want. I bought the viper V2 and it just feels way to long. I might have to end up buying one

@aidanleenstra1605 Жыл бұрын

They will release a plastic one, probably soon-ish.

@dreadavis9751 Жыл бұрын

Need magnetic levitation to reduce the movement resistance on electromagnetically controlled mouse pad

@eXSPLY Жыл бұрын

I'm one of the biggest enthusiasts in the mouse community, I've bought everything without hesitation, this price is not justifiable and I can't support it.

@rurrer Жыл бұрын

Oh hai sply, you're from r slash MouseReview right? Have you spoken to the Razer representatives? I feel like this release is awful to the community..

@n9ne Жыл бұрын

$280 with all the issues of the normal viper mini. double click mouse4, scroll wheel skips, bad switch registry.

@JE-zl6uy Жыл бұрын

Overwatch 2 doesn't even like anything over 2khz, it's ridiculous

@crimnvL Жыл бұрын

30k dpi is overkill, 4k hz is overkill

@amnforge 10 ай бұрын

I used to only buy Razer gear cause of all the RGB but now there is better RGB out there lol

@Gryfang451 Жыл бұрын

There's nothing wrong with buying a good quality piece of equipment. But at that price point, I don't think it has much of a market when there are many good alternatives, even in small fast wireless mice that don't cost even half what this thing does.

@trailfork7815 Жыл бұрын

true, there's nothing wrong with paying for quality but quality and razer don't mix so this is just straight up daylight robbery

@Shyvorix Жыл бұрын

@@trailfork7815 CNC'd magnesium ain't cheap yo. Expensive and hella dangerous. My only worry are the side buttons longevity. If they stay, I think the quality of the mouse will hold very long term.

@dotexe3426 Жыл бұрын

doesn't the pulling rate use a ton of CPU? I think that's why it stutters?

@user-qn1zj5bs5p Жыл бұрын

indeed , so normally over 1k polling rate is not ideal for most cpu , especially some CPU intensive games

@Romash. Жыл бұрын

Why are people concerning about difference in laptop and mobile gpu previously noneone used to talk when 3000 series launch

@SevenGears Жыл бұрын

viper mini still goated

@jaymacpherson8167 Жыл бұрын

Magnesium? Why not titanium?!? Come on Razer, titanium will be so much harder to crush.

@worri3db3ar Жыл бұрын

This new mice makes me miss the old razer mice.

@Arcothos Жыл бұрын

no one gonna talk about that amazing aim lab gameplay at the beginning? or am I just really bad at aim lab

@RafaelSilva-yv3oh Жыл бұрын

I have 0 issues with Aimlab, or any other game I've tried and 4000 hertz polling rate (razer Viper V2 Pro and 4khz dongle). Check your system, something must be not working right. My PC isn't even that big deal (10900k@5.2Ghz, 3080 10GB@2050mhz, 2x16gb Samsung bdie manual tune to 4100Mhz c16).

@xblur17 Жыл бұрын

@RafaelSilva-yv3oh Жыл бұрын

@@xblur17 Yeah, that's what I figured happens most of the time.

@PCSklejka Жыл бұрын

Good Review! Now im sure i will not spend nearly $300 on this mouse 🐁 🤣

@PinKeeDJ Жыл бұрын

How come no other yoputuber mentioned the 4k Hz performance issues? That's some integrity there...

@bearIyy Жыл бұрын

advocates for no holes and environmental friendly packaging then does the opposite lol

@youtubewatcher4272 Жыл бұрын

You can sell ANYTHING - LITERALLY ANYTHING - to gamers. They are telling you that these mouses with wholes are good for air circulation and perfect for long gaming sessions and that the prevent sweating hands. Truth is, the only reason they manufacture thoses mouses is that they can save a few Cents because they need to use less plastic. And yes, that goes for magnesium alloy as well. It may sound fancy, but is also as cheap as the aluminium on Apple notebooks. Just maximizing their profits.

@echos4240 Жыл бұрын

Like cool they wanted to step into the "Finalmouse market" but still people were asking for a Viper mini wireless for years. They seriously should of released the normal version first

@GreekMetalMechanicalIngeneer Жыл бұрын

Looks like very high quality

@Daveman_ Жыл бұрын

Im running viper 8khz on every game. Runs perfect. its not true 4khz doesn't work on some game. Probably you're on AMD cpu. No problems with intel with C-states disables...

@NoSwitchyt Жыл бұрын

The price just makes this mouse irrelevant. It might as well not exist. At half of this price it could be justified.

@luissantiago5163 Жыл бұрын

Definitely don't see the point in this mouse. Most useful review I've seen so far. Much appreciated!

@Ronzem2 Жыл бұрын

This more like buying a higher end/spec of a car. Or that 5K dollar PC. You're paying premium for more bling.. and I guess some more features although not needed for most people. There is no point to hit. It's more about that they can and there are some people who wants that. Definitely not for the majority of people. This mouse was never about value for money. If you're looking for that you need to look elsewhere. There is actually a lot of value for money gaming mices at the moment. Lamzu Atlantis one of the latest.

@eepyhead Жыл бұрын

for minecraft pvp!!

@ThoughtSpirals Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you guys are not trying to defend this clown show by Razer

@kevinw0lf Жыл бұрын

I think Razer saw an opportunity as Finalmouse made themselves much more known thanks to the Starlight-12, but as it seems, it's not uncommon to see plenty of complaints in regards to QC. The signature edition is an statement on how top end mice should be made. In a sense I hope other manufacturers would try more of this, upping the bar on all fronts. I'm just disappointed Razer haven't gone more extreme, they could have easily gone under 40 grams with this.

@aeisbaer8042 Жыл бұрын

I agree, for 280$ (320€) I expected a top notch perfomance in every aspect. We all know that Razer currently has probably the best wireless perfomance on the market but weight wise it's just not worth it considering something like the Lamzu Atlantis Mini weighs the same and is about 180 (!!) dollars cheaper. And considering Finalmouse announced a 200$ 29gramm 4kHz Carbonglass mouse it's kind of a sad release.

@Incursoe Жыл бұрын

@@aeisbaer8042 I have doubts about Finalmemes claims. Carbonglass is absolutely shit compared to most other materials. It’s much cheaper than normal carbon, but durability and even weight wise it blows ass.

@SauceCake0 Жыл бұрын

I heard it finally came out but then saw this price tag oh mah god what the hell no waaaaeaeayae

@StaySic4Ever Жыл бұрын

It's cool to see others apart from finalmeme to do magnesium alloy shell. Though even with those holes it's not as light as you'd expect, just saying. But way overpriced for sure. But I'd still like to see others do magnesium alloy full shell design though. Way less CNC work too.

@patrickmoore7227 Жыл бұрын

They are nuts!

@rickym.5271 Жыл бұрын

A keyboard at $280... I have no problem with that. A mouse at $280..... Nah I'm good lol.

@chincemagnet Жыл бұрын

Glass feet! 😮 I’m getting me some of those

@shelly6482 Жыл бұрын

Wire is better and cheaper :) Viper mini standard wheel is not too shabby.

@whoisthatthingwhat Жыл бұрын

how wire better?, no movement freedom and more latency than vmse

@shelly6482 Жыл бұрын

@@whoisthatthingwhatStop being so silly and over the top.

@brandonlandry558 Жыл бұрын

I’m flabbergasted and the price is just outrageous… However, I’m buying one😅

@donald2005 Жыл бұрын

this mouse better actually make me better at a game for that ridiculous price. and the worst part is that it's not even customizable. i'm really into custom keyboards and they're expensive as fuck but i can make it just how i want it to sound feel and look. this is just a normal mouse with a fancy box that they made 10 times the price

@user-wl6rg4zw9j Жыл бұрын

razer viper mini wired and logitech g102 for life

@lidorori Жыл бұрын

Can you do a comparison with the final mouse? It looks like the battery life is worse and it more of a copy then a new product.

@wqite Жыл бұрын

the finalmouse is terrible, cheap mcu, mediocre click implementation, outdated sensor, terrible firmware, no software, it performs worse than $90 wireless mice

@lidorori Жыл бұрын

@@wqite on the latest one they changed to a flawless sensor and way better switches. And if we are talking about bad switches, logitech and razer switches are really really bad

@wqite Жыл бұрын

@@lidorori Bad switch implementation, regarding shell design. Razer has the best switches on the market by a landslide and logitech uses fairly common switches so i have no idea what you’re talking about

@wqite Жыл бұрын

@@lidorori they did not change the sensor it’s still using a 3370 you got lied to

@lidorori Жыл бұрын

@@wqite you are joking right? Logitech switches are shit, same for razers lol They both suffer Dobble clicking and are meh feeling. And true, my bad, the sensor on the fm is the 3370,they just tuned it way better. Look, it's easy to see razer just slapped a metal frame they kinda copied from fm on a 25$ mouse, added wireless and called it a day. Don't be a fan boy, fm is mostly trash and not worth the price, that's true, but this one? That's a freaking sad pathetic joke. Razer gear is mostly trash, se for logitech and all the big names. It's better to get a custom mouse/make one yourself and a custom kb, it will be way better and cost way less then this joke.