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There are two things i know about you already, one you dont have experience in body building, and two you watch athleanx like a rookie or listen to people who watch him. IF you only do lateral raises with external rotation thumbs up, you WILL be getting bicep tendinitis or bursitis by overworking your front delts, its about a 75% front/ 25% side delt movement, and activates the traps more. THIS movement is actually utilizing gravity to tuck that rotator cuff deeper into its socket and bicep tendon to slide towards the scapula/ back into its slot, isolating the mid delt. Should feel like your armpits are flexing.

@@slinky828 You are correct that I am not a body builder. I am an older guy that lifts to stay fit and maintain a good physique. However I don’t watch Athleenx, I think he’s sorta douchey to be honest. Not sure if your trying to slam me with that comment but I don’t give two fucks either way bro. The reason I commented on the pinky up method is because my shoulders are wrecked from years of abuse in the oilfield. I don’t do a lot of shoulder exercises because of this, and I’m still working on rehabbing my shoulders. When I have done lateral raises however I cannot do them the way Sal does - it is very painful but I can do them with thumbs up. That was the main basis for my comment. Have a good one

Lol. I willing to bet Arnold can’t even pour his own beer now a days from all those old school ways of lifting. 😂

This is true. HOWEVER, loading potential for this movement (due to mechanical inefficiency) is extremely low. Also, lateral delts are slow twitch dominant (or at least mine are) and require a lot of TUT, so loading will be even more compromised. You can also reduce the impingement by stopping shy of 90°, or doing partial variations lying on your side on an incline bench to target second half of ROM, and standing partials with heavier DBs to target the first half of ROM. I've been training for nearly 30 years, have pretty decent lateral delt development, and I've never gone heavier than 20 lb DBs. I've also never had shoulder impingement issues (though flat bench press has given me more than my share of wear and tear). At one point I saw the scap plane raise that you describe so I tried them out, and I got such minimal lateral delt recruitment that it just felt like a waste of time. If you're not a bodybuilder, then doing lateral raises at all is completely unnecessary. It's the ultimate vanity exercise, right up there with calf raises IMO. It has zero carryover to any athletic or human performance endeavor, unless you're concerned with how well you fill out a t shirt.

Same, I can brace better and maintain correct posture, which is incredibly important for maintaining tension in this movement.

Happy to help!

how can you "end up" with impingement. impingement is the point of restricted motion depending on the individuals shoulder mechanics that are always there in which you need to work around.

It happens!

Jeff would NEVER advocate this guy's side lateral raises. As a matter of fact, this guy "sal" is going to get himself, and his clients to an ortho surgeon down the road

@@phil463 how athlean x viewers are killing your gains!

@@therealwewin awwww, we have a fanboy of Sal. How long have you two been dating? Who's the qb and who's the receiver between you two? Asking for a friend because they're concerned he might have also given bad advice on your form when in bed with him LOL.