Thank you BrainPlot for picking up this series. I've just started listening to the audiobook version of the English translated The Three-Body Problem sci-fi book by computer programmer/author CiXin Liu. The first novel of three books. The harmful environmental effects caused by pesticides as depicted by the book Silent Spring, was a metaphor for the insidiousness of the Cultural Revolution. The failed movement, which inevitably resulted in famine that killed 30 million Chinese, harmed the society more than it was intended to cure (via purging of reactionary literati as pests). The learned disillusionment imprinted Ye's pessimistic worldview mindset. The impetus for Ye to seek first contact, despite the warning from the alien conquerors.

The fist season of 3 Body Problem was mind blowing fun and thought provoking. looking forward and hoping for more seasons.

I think the mystery of who was controlling this technology and what their motives were was the intriguing part. The show took a melancholic and almost cheesy/generic turn after that. I only finished the episodes because I felt that I should. Big let-down.

Reminds me of the peripheral over on amazon prime

been so long since. brain picking plot has hit the shelves. unlike what others say, i found it interesting after episode 5. decent start too. im now hooked with the genius little group of scientists, RIP to one though.

Is it good

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Yes

DEHYDRATE

😂😂😂😂😂 this was super funny and accurate.

My comeback would be “if you’re so smart then hows your stock profile?” 😂

I hope so its slow burn my critic: The most underwhelming show of the year the writing is pretty weak 80% its boring because of predictable actors are mediocre but the whole show has no heart and soul. There is just Something not right so i can enjoy it fully maybe make this show one Seasion would be better

@@Daniel-lq5qq Ah you're a copy paste snowflake I see. Sorry but don't throw a banner at me and pretend it's a reply to what I said. Your are like an ignored child shouting from the rooftop until someone cares. I've read hundreds of book series. This is probably the one I enjoyed the most of all. Are you a GOT nerd who likes boobs and dragons and are upset because your favourite author couldn't finish his book in time? There is no way you believe what you said, if you have any taste. The Netflix adaptation has been solidly well done. Your comment history seems like you are just a constant whiny snowflake. That's what people without talent, or any love do. So I'm guessing Incel GOT fan.

Even the first book blew my mind at times. I loved this show too. Episode 5 might be among my favorire episodes or television ever. Im not sure snything has played out how i imagined it would while reading but that scene with Judgement Day felt like the ripped it straight from the book.

@@hanyolo2041 yes Episode 5 was the best from this season If you want to watch a good show than watch bodies

Its comments like these that make me so excited to get into the books. Such an intriguing story set up in the show, and to know there’s more in store from the books is exciting.

Same here!

Saaaaaaame!!!!

try the Chinese version too, more character development, the detective is excellent

I feel like season 2 is where the story will really take off, fingers crossed

What's the name of Chinese one?​@@maynotbe

I feel like he will return but I have not read the books

It always came back to if one of us survives we all survive. Maybe the human race would be doomed but by Will being out there it gives us all a chance in the long run..

If 1 person survives, then they all survive. So humanity is saved lol.

I thought the fishbowl symbolized Will being a “pet” to the Santi. Stuck in a place, surrounded by far more advanced creatures and stuck in a place where they have his life in their hands. I think Sophon will save Will.

It's a sprinkle in the show for the book readers. We may see goldfish referenced again, who knows? Read the books sometime, they will warp your mind

So who are the angels that told Einstein not to play music and who is that God that kicked Einstein and destroyed guitar?

She was saying that a joke is understood by 2 people can be very unique to them only. Meaning you can talk in code by using jokes/stories and only the two talking would understand the inner message. In other words if you want to get a message across without the Tri solarians intercepting you need to speak like that.

this Einstein joke made absolutely no sense. how in the hell does this tip Saul off so that he figures out the dark forest theory and then sends out his “spell”??? it was waaaaayy too vague

@@akarshana8131 spoiler other aliens. The angels refer to other alien races.

​@setsunatenma9467 more specifically the 'pacifist' aliens that told her to stay quiet

All good shows get cancelled. I hope this does not. A great series after a long time.

That's my first thought too I guess some actor there played in Ghost ship too?

The Expanse is a great Sci-fi show if you've not watched it before. 💪🏽🤙🏽

@@Wabi-sabi8551 I've started it a twice, but I end up only watching a few episodes. I'm saving for the next time I have a long overseas flight. Thanks for the rec!

It's going to need a godly budget to say the least. I hope they keep some of the quirkier parts of the next two books like all the femboys and the whole black hole insurance payout bit.

They got 1 1/2 books in season one

@@fairamir1 yeah.. the easy parts to put on screen.

The dark domain will be interesting to implement. I wonder if the dimensional flattener will just be earth from a distance turning into a line/pancake

You know the original chinese version exists too. I wanted to watch that one

Yeah, Auggie is hypocritical af Also, she was a b*tch to everyone.

I agree! The actress is pretty bad too.

She was a terrible character. A feminist with a superiority complex

A despicable lawful good character 😅

Plus she sliced and diced 1000 plus people including little children then for some reason blamed her friends boyfriend who was just there as security

the CGI is not that good, I can’t believe it cost $20 million inflation is out of control.

Some budget went to a star

Yea it is in my opinion, a cable tv network like Scifi would have made a better show. Its still good tho.

Well, who are you to say they could have done it with 3 mil? Dont say bs

So when they said that you could buy a star for ~19 million it was just a metaphor for a episode

They understand lying perfectly fine. What they did not understand is that humans can communicate something that is opposite their intention. A Trisolaran communicates natively in only one way, it's thought automatically shows as light on their body/face. They are not able to think first and then communicate something else later, or even communicate what they exactly thought later. What they think is immediately communicated real time on the light on their body/face. A Trisolaran seeing another Trisolaran can immediately read the true thought of each other, neither can communicate opposite of what they thought, nor can they stop the other from viewing that thought. That's why they were afraid when Mike explained the Red Riding Hood story. They can't fathom a being that could think and THEN communicate a opposite intention. They can't fathom that the story isn't true, because communicating something means truth (to a Trisolaran). So the wolf, with the intention to eat the children, telling the children it has big arms, legs, ears, eyes for reasons that are not for the intention and finally springing that intention at the end with the answer to big teeth would have fundamentally shocked the Trisolaran into fear. So, ultimately, a Trisolaran cannot lie to a Trisolaran in person, but it learned from Mike that it can use communication with Humans over text/audio/produced illusions that do not have to match their intention.

Yes this! Finally

@@kiaser21excellent breakdown!

Thay how you now it's a.i machines dont know what lying is the old man had to explain what it was if it were a real organism it would have known what it was .😂

I knew something was happening toward the end with everybody doing stuff with no explanation but it will likely be explained in the seasons to come @@kiaser21

True! I was gutted when 1899 got cancelled

I've got bad news for you. It's definitely going to be canceled.

@@BrainPilot a huge statistic Netflix pays close attention to is completion rates in the first two weeks. 1899 had tons of hours viewed but not a lot of people finishing the show from start to finish which played a major factor in its cancellation. I just hope people watch all 8 episodes 😢

I will forever be mad at Netflix for canceling the show 😢

I'm still salty about 1899 lol...

I hope so. But if it is, you can read the original book instead

@@amarnasia I will do exactly that as I can't wait possibly 2 years for sequel.

I agree. The casting was bad, acting was meh and writing was uninspired. I liked the show but it could have been so much better !

I think we love him bcz is a wizar... I mean a detective

They can do and ask for anything they want/need but they don’t need to explain why. Presumably, everyone will think everything they do is a step towards reaching their goals, but no one will know for sure. They could spend 10 years on something that has nothing to do with saving the human race and the whole world will think otherwise.

Yes, from my understanding, they can encompass the whole planet to hide the sky if they want to, but to travel and spy at the speed of light, they fold back onto themselves. That's why it "unfolds" during the epic earth-wide reveal scene. It's not always covering the earth.

They are multidimensional and are normally 'folded' to be the size of a proton. When the 'unfold' they can massive, but normally they are zipping around in a tiny size. It's trippy but protons can move a lot faster than something the size of a planet.

I find it weird that they consider we will be able to create stuff such as sophons in barely 400 years 😂

I mean think about it. Think about the video games in the 1990's and compare it to now, just on a graphics level the jump is insane. Not to mention the tech behind it, how much our devices can hold to even run the thing. And that's just one small section of life. Think of all the medical advancements, we have self driving cars. Who knows how we'll look in 20 years. It does depend on if we can live in relative peace of course but I think we're on track towards that(at least the realistic parts, I can't touch the theoretical physics). @@charlie8458

Here is a notion, the aliens think of us as bugs and what is bugs to us on earth, well note, we don't know how our bugs communicate and they the aliens don't understand why humans lie or joke and Humans can use that to an advantage fighting forward. Ye Wenjie seemed to try to convey that to Saul in a Einstein joke.

Glad you enjoyed it

Main reason for Saul (罗辑) being selected as wallfacer is that Ye Wenjie implied him how to fight back. I'm not gonna spoil your watching experience, you will know if there's 2nd season.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS DON'T READ THIS COMMENT IF YOU DON'T WANT THE BOOKS SPOILED FOR YOU The Santi must break our scientific progress and invade us because by virtue of both our existence and our knowledge of them (as revealed by a very naughty Santi) we are a threat to their existence. The universe is actively hostile to any civilisation which announces its presence. If the Santi do not break our scientific progress in the 21st century, then we will continue to develop more and more powerful technology until we are a threat to their civilisation. Saul is a threat to the Santi because Ye gave him a clue as to the nature of the universe in that strange *joke*.

@@sophiaclairedelacruz4849 When Ye said something about jokes. I assumed the Sanji didn't understand jokes so they could communicate their plans undetected through jokes. Am I right or wrong?

That's why a person like Wade is a better choice for human beings. The next season will be Saul's greatest show. I wonder how those insane scenes in the 2nd book can be brought to TV, not to mention the 3rd book that is more insane.

I think the videogame wasn‘t metaphorical at all. We don‘t know what the Santi look like, but I really think that they can hydrate and dehydrate. They looked like humans in the game because they seem to be too scary for us. I imagine them like insects or worms or something like that. So the game showed the reality of their planet. And it seems to be important that they always say „If one survives, we all survive .“

The VR was basically a very overdone way to force exposition. It really burned me out. I loved the first couple episodes but the last 6 was like made for TV movie level shit.

Cixin Liu was a computer engineer and it most definitely showed in the VR game when he was describing the human computer in intricate detail. It was so detailed that pretty much anyone that had read the books would have a basic understanding of how computers actually work. Personally, I loved it. But it can be a big pill to swallow if one doesn't want to overthink the complexities of everything. I get why the showrunners glossed over it.

​@@justjeff386so cringe

Yeah it is a real interesting one!

Do it! The show has kinda crammed the 3 books together mind

Really makes me admire how fucking stupid we are fucking up our only realistic habitat for the forseeable future so a small group cunts can live even more extravagantly then they already do.

Yeah well that's how light speed works innit genius

@@shockwave9916 You completely missed the point. It went over your head.

@@shockwave9916you are such a sad person. All your yt comments show it. Just knowing people like you exist almost makes me want to contact the San-Ti myself.

1 more episode of Shogūn left. So good. 😢

And change dimensions

They can grow to cover the earth though

Yeah it was a good one!

I was thinking the same.

Yes it doesn't make sense

Ye wenjies motivations are made much clearer in the book. She was a bit delusional and naive at the same time

If I remember correctly, Dr Ye was communicating with a pacifist on that world. That’s why she believed they will come without conquering the earth and they will coexist with humans.

My take is that she believed that humanity will ruin everything we touch. She saw humanity being brutal. She gambled that having rulers would be better than not. Not saying she was justified. But I think that’s what went into her decision

Jin's answers about how long it took us as a species to get to certain technological points. Did you see the timeline was getting shorter and shorter? Very clever, these bugs.

Headsets are just Made in china

Seriously who’s producing them

Yeah it really is!

Thanks!

however, we as viewers saw the support for the sail snap and the sail not being correctly deployed. If "our" only info was coming from the humans in the story, I might agree with you, but we are narratively led to believe this is true. I also believe that Will's story is far from over, tho, either he will still be collected by the Shan Ti or somebody else. you don't waste that much set up on a dead end.

I skipped scenes with Will and the others just talking on the beach ngl, like I get they were trying to be sentimental with it but just took up so much time.

Please, you will dumb down the story if you think you can boil the whole saga down into a 2h movie .... Its impatient viewers like RobAndrews18 who gets show seasons cancelled ....... 3 Body Problem is a complex sci fi masterpiece written by a pure genius writer, it will go down in history as one of the greatest sci fi ever told .... so please stop this nonsense about the show "dragging" on ... every moment in the show is necessary to capture the essence of the books, its interesting when you actually understand the nuances of the whole story rather than make it into a children story for immature minds ...

Can you explain?

@@ianbuenav in the books: We don’t know how the Chinese scientist woman contracted the aliens. A scientist figures out out. We can ring our star like a bell and the universe will see it. So where is everyone? This leads to the dark forest theory. So he “rings” another star that is nearby. He goes into cryo sleep, they wake him up later. The star he rang was destroyed by another undetected alien force. He uses this knowledge as leverage against the trisolarans and they sue for peace sorta. But it all goes sideways because all of these shenanigans has caused greater entities to take notice and Trisolaris and Earth are destroyed. Earth is flattened by a 2 dimensional bomb. Trisolaran is wiped out by an unknown alien fleet.

Yeah it was a really cool story!

Not that many star systems in that distance with the known properties. Having said that... any such probe would miss an incoming fleet by dozens, if not hundreds of astronomical units. It's completely pointless.

@@lepidoptera9337 ohh I got ya, thank you for the clarification!

You ask to many real questions….. just believe 😉

The VR games/scenes were pretty cringe. They looked so bad standing in front of a green screen. There was so much of it I couldn’t stand it. Good thing once that was over with it got good

Amazon, although there are a few episodes you will need to rent to watch everything

My question too!!!!!!!????

Or maybe because it's expensive? :/

Because they only have 300 atomic bombs wich is the difficult part

Ohhhhh good question. Even if it stayed on course though they didn’t detonate all of the bombs so it would be traveling far too slowly right?

The particle only unfolded to surround earth and reveal itself in episode 5. Most of the time, both protons are flying around at basically light speed and folded to the size of an actual proton to different parts of the earth and so is not actively surrounding the planet as a ball. So the brain did make it into space

Have you read the spin off about the brains journey? Semi Canon I think cuz liu really liked it, worth a read

Yeah the emotion was such a big thing!

I'm hoping it's gonna happen in the next season!

Definitely worth a watch! I feel like this show is also just the deeper foundations of what's to come!

Well. At least in this case the book is already completed. So hopefully this doesn’t fall into the issues when they didn’t have GRRMs help anymore with Game of Thrones last seasons.

I kind of doubt that. I talked to people who were in the labor camps during the cultural revolution. I can not imagine of them approving of or even borderline understanding Dr. Ye Wenjie's thinking and actions. The experience of violence does not make you lust for revenge or destruction. It makes you long for peace and a betterment of mankind.

Yeah that would be a cool way to establish the time periods!

I couldn't watch 3 min of Dune.. This was awesome

I really liked this show and now I plan to buy the book. Also Dune is not for everyone so I get it. All I am saying is why did it cost so much to produce? @@themistero

They are probably embezzling it.

It is an awesome show!

the pacifist warning makes no sense when they are a one planet species too. the sophons have no density/mass btw, in the books the first 2 fail and fall to the planet doing as much dmg as a spiders web would

Sophon is a super computer made of a proton, it can unfold itself to planet size but it's still a subatomic particle, it doesn't have enough energy to kill a person by itself. Trisolarans responded after like ~8 years after the initial broadcast, they are from Alpha Centauri system which is 4 light years away from Earth.

Many of your questions you can find answer in the three body problems trilogy novels

​@@anonymousone6075 the pacifist warning was from an individual lowly santi ... Just like the response was from a lowly human

but they have conqoured no one, his message comes across like they are a galactic power across multiple worlds @@smdnsnnd7254

I agree it’s hard to believe that a genius scientist would feel the need to get lip injections. It took away from the story.

Is there chinese version translated to English?

@@oulawithsoul its subtitled to English

A lot didn’t make sense.

@@s1n4m1n the launch the brain into space so that it can be a spy was dumb as hell too lol

Towards the fight that's going to happen in 400 years...

Money laundering

Your comment is very on point. The chinese version goes deep into the scientific concepts and giving context. The Netflix version is very watered down in comparison, but it has great Drama.

It was boring, i don't understand how you guys love this