3RD FACTION!? The Gift of N'zoth: Blizzards Epic New Storytelling Mechanic & N'zoths PLAN

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Bellular Warcraft

Bellular Warcraft

5 жыл бұрын

Blizzard are innovating their storytelling techniques with the new Gift of N'zoth mechanic AND teasing a lot of extremely interesting future lore regarding Xal'atath, N'zoth and Sylvanas.
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@azurepai5916
@azurepai5916 5 жыл бұрын
"When we do it, the screen fades to black and a cinematic plays" *Screen stays black, then slowly brightens* "You're finally awake. You were trying to cross the border right?"
@possumbly
@possumbly 5 жыл бұрын
Funny, as I'm going to be trying out ESO this weekend as a possible WoW replacement!
@nhagan001
@nhagan001 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas the Tank Engine Appears in the distance.
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 5 жыл бұрын
@@possumbly don't! the game is good but they make you individually buy the end game dungeons. proceed with caution, microtransations in sight!
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 5 жыл бұрын
that besides a few expansions. and it becomes a bit bland tbh.
@possumbly
@possumbly 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoulTouchMusic93 Too late, already having fun :)
@sabelyth2630
@sabelyth2630 5 жыл бұрын
taking the eye to goldshire will just make N'zoth instantly die.
@braindeadrat8005
@braindeadrat8005 5 жыл бұрын
Speciaññy on moonguard
@owlblu8841
@owlblu8841 5 жыл бұрын
This needs to be top comment.
@justred5075
@justred5075 5 жыл бұрын
Nah he'll probably just put his plans into overdrive and be like "I was just going to mercifully enslave you all. But now I see the true horrors of this world and genocide is the only answer."
@BlackHawk4698
@BlackHawk4698 5 жыл бұрын
What makes you think a tentacle monster would not like Goldshire?
@DraphEnjoyer
@DraphEnjoyer 5 жыл бұрын
Not even N'zoth can stand against the force of thousands of futa draenei horsecocks
@MarcelianOnline
@MarcelianOnline 5 жыл бұрын
If this 3rd faction does happen, I hope it won't be "7.99 and unlock the new Faction". I'm looking at you Activision 🤔
@AlunethMaster
@AlunethMaster 5 жыл бұрын
i can totally see that happening.
@tiredtobias
@tiredtobias 5 жыл бұрын
Nah it's the whole big deal with next expansion where you need MASSIVE REP GRINDS. GOLD. ACHIEVEMENTS and TITANFORGING to get it
@christianblocker1782
@christianblocker1782 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, 8$ isn't so bad... Although just on principle that would suck
@Poporoporancio
@Poporoporancio 5 жыл бұрын
you will need all reputations hated from alliance and horde, which is worst because you will be locked into a subscription.
@uncledaydays
@uncledaydays 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, you know Activation is pondering how to add loot boxes to WoW.
@josejuanandrade4439
@josejuanandrade4439 5 жыл бұрын
A warchief weilding an Old God's power??????? Now, where have i seen this before?!
@philcollins5457
@philcollins5457 5 жыл бұрын
"OH, SO IT'S FINE IF THE ELF CORPSE DOES IT BUT I WAS A THREAT TO LIFE ITSELF WHEN I WAS FOLLOWING MY TEACHER'S INSTRUCTIONS?"
@kronniichiwa9909
@kronniichiwa9909 5 жыл бұрын
@deenman23 Agree. Mop, Wrath and Legion were the best
@WeedStriker
@WeedStriker 5 жыл бұрын
@deenman23 Ulduar alone makes Wotlk the best expansion
@MarkusHammond
@MarkusHammond 5 жыл бұрын
​@deenman23 There was so much to do in wotlk, what are you talking about? Most of what you listed as a con for wotlk was present in Legion. Legion was probably the biggest cake-walk expansion I've ever played. It's all a matter of opinion though. :P
@MarkusHammond
@MarkusHammond 5 жыл бұрын
@deenman23 Raided heroic (not enough folks in my guild for mythic) and did m+ pretty consistently. Got all of the mage tower appearances I wanted, including the prot warrior one when it was still half challenging. So there's that. Now, Legion, IMO, was a cakewalk. Mostly the dungeons, raids were fine. A bit boring, but fine. Speaking of raids, wotlk had great (and more) raids. They were simpler than modern raids, but everything was a bit simpler back then. Game's evolved since then. I remember the pvp being pretty great, good world content (depends on if you prefer dailies or WQs, I prefer dailies) a better narrative (that one's subjective too, I hated Legion's story) and comparable art design. Honestly the two had pretty comparable levels of content, I just liked wotlk more and you apparently liked Legion more. No need to get all uppity over a simple difference in opinion. lmao
@Scottzone
@Scottzone 5 жыл бұрын
Media Image Offline was the old gods hiding their plans... Bellular has been taken.
@OgeLin
@OgeLin 5 жыл бұрын
The cosmos does NOT look very open to Sylvanas after all.
@Streifi
@Streifi 5 жыл бұрын
@@OgeLin And it doesn't have to, as she didn't claim that. It was Xal, who was saying it. ;)
@BellularGaming
@BellularGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, credit where it's due, the Gift of N'zoth is a pretty cool mechanic.
@turtlewub
@turtlewub 5 жыл бұрын
i actually had a nightmare the other day u uploaded and told us it was the last xpac.
@alfadasfire
@alfadasfire 5 жыл бұрын
@@turtlewub Is it really that much work to type a "y" and an "O" before the "U"?
@karlezeth2628
@karlezeth2628 5 жыл бұрын
Can't be a dead game if so many people are talking about it. From a fellow lore junkie, this is very good news
@canyoufearme1
@canyoufearme1 5 жыл бұрын
Alfadas fire lol does that frustrate you? This isn’t academic writing, or even formal communication there is absolutely no rules of written language that apply here and you sound much butthurt over someone’s lack of two letters. Life must be very boring if you feel the need to complain about the difference between u and you... P.S. you essentially wrote “mythical flying man in the sky is it really that much work to type”....
@TreemanMikeheals
@TreemanMikeheals 5 жыл бұрын
So warframe has this mechanic where if you (as a community) dont destory this big alien invasion ship thing the formian something or other - then it will in return destory one of our cities permanently. I think wow needs to adopt this level of risk and reward if it wants to have any type of place in the future.
@Lionbladier
@Lionbladier 5 жыл бұрын
"Five torches to light our path." Four Old Gods (C'thun, Yogg'saron, Y'shraj, and N'zoth)...and now a 5th. Xal'atath. Ill'gynoth wasn't talking about the Old Gods coming...the Old Gods are beacons for the Void Lords themselves to come and collect Azeroth.
@CrimeFighterFrog
@CrimeFighterFrog 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Y'shraaj is dead
@victore929
@victore929 5 жыл бұрын
Slicksloth you sure?
@Kikrafis
@Kikrafis 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he is dead we expunged him completely
@connor_obrady
@connor_obrady 5 жыл бұрын
Either that (they’d have to revive Y’sharaaj in order to pull it off) or all the world trees, or maybe the Pillars of Creation were the keys to a very slow opening door.
@christianmartinez4778
@christianmartinez4778 5 жыл бұрын
Doubt it. Pretty sure old gods dont give a shit if they look hot or not. But who knows! Blizzard is making a female version of everything because MONEY! They dgaf bout the quality and consistency of the lore anymore.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 5 жыл бұрын
Xal'atath, the Starscream of the old gods.
@Boxfortress
@Boxfortress 5 жыл бұрын
Not nearly as whiny and sniveling enough, but knifu is knifu.
@Gtayl828
@Gtayl828 5 жыл бұрын
This stuff is better than the actual game for me 😂
@electriczagnut4937
@electriczagnut4937 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this comment is hilarious.
@Gustavo-pc6wc
@Gustavo-pc6wc 5 жыл бұрын
Call the autobots
@---tr8fx
@---tr8fx 5 жыл бұрын
N'zoth: "tell my champion, what do you desire, what can i offer you for this world!?" You: "ah, well maybe..." N'zoth: "That is enough, eternal life and sustain?!" You: "No, maybe..." N'zoth: "Oh, i see, unlimited wealth and exotic treasures!" You: "No..." N'zoth: "Then what!? what do you seek mortal! dont test my patience!" You: "I want the knaifu..." Xal'atath: "what?!" N'zoth: "Oh... im glad that you are a being of culture aswell!" Xal'atath: "my lord, you can't be serious!"
@bornulhu4549
@bornulhu4549 5 жыл бұрын
I love this.
@benceracz6515
@benceracz6515 5 жыл бұрын
Surely, you can't be serious! I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
@aitipsea3909
@aitipsea3909 4 жыл бұрын
Why settle with a knaifu when you got the lord of tentacles before you? :>
@Mictla155
@Mictla155 5 жыл бұрын
I am going to serve N'zoth, I have always loved the Old Gods.
@Dayz3O6
@Dayz3O6 4 жыл бұрын
@Althane Frostbane She brought me this far and you think I would just cleanse the gift just for morg?! My guess is that those who keep will get something special at the end of bfa or the next expansion.
@robertserban2422
@robertserban2422 4 жыл бұрын
I will serve as well
@KNByam
@KNByam 5 жыл бұрын
The last time I was this early Blizzard and Bethesda were still respected in the gaming community.
@cloyd1234
@cloyd1234 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@sublimeowlman420
@sublimeowlman420 5 жыл бұрын
Oooooh! Savage!
@fredriksvard2603
@fredriksvard2603 5 жыл бұрын
bigbullbk so around wc3, was youtube around back then?
@Vorodor21
@Vorodor21 5 жыл бұрын
I'd sooner respect gaming companies that might be going through a down swing but always bounce back than angry nobodies on the internet
@shanebrodeur1324
@shanebrodeur1324 5 жыл бұрын
Oof
@Ghastly1
@Ghastly1 5 жыл бұрын
If Sylvanas is an "unpredictable" character, she is that way due to poor writing. Sylvanas' motivation was pretty simple for most of Warcraft's history: get revenge on the LK and ensure the continued existence of her band of misfits. From Cata onward, however, she and the Forsaken have become less and less sympathetic. The melancholic anti-hero is gone, in her place we have a villainess with deliberately opaque goals and motivations. She is "unpredictable" because we no longer know what makes her tick, and it's not as clever as the writing team seems to think.
@VaregianEisselor
@VaregianEisselor 5 жыл бұрын
That is quite a common thing in real life too, though. If a minority is fighting for their rights and manage to eventually succeed, they often find themselves in need of a new object to direct their hate and frustration on. A lot of people simply cannot become content after reaching their goal, as rebellion and frustration have become part of them and letting go of such feelings in much harder than staying the same and simply redirecting them elsewhere. Just look at the current dilution and corruption of the feminist movement in recent years, for example. The Forsaken were always evil, as the majority of undead simply are due to the corruptive nature of undeath, but before Cata, they had a clear goal: vengeance. With the Lich King dead, they simply do not know what to do with their existence - they are rarely capable of loving, they can't smell, taste or enjoy beauty, they can't procreate, etc. So the only thing that can fill the empty space in their soul is giving in to their evil nature and hatred of the living, that is gnawing at their every thought from the very beginning. Now, do I like it? No, I don't. Is it good writing? It might be, but probably unintentionally. I really doubt Blizzard has made this change for the sake of the Forsaken's realistic development and not just to keep the Forsaken "edgy" for the playerbase. However, wheter intentional or not, it kind of makes sense for the Forsaken to develop this way.
@thilofedormathis7863
@thilofedormathis7863 5 жыл бұрын
Mabey there will Be a big plottwist
@us89na
@us89na 5 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas and her apothecaries have never been sympathetic. Just superficially until you dig into what they're doing and see their scheming and psychopathy. Tarren Mill was being poisoned by them since Vanilla...
@jasmeetsingh1401
@jasmeetsingh1401 5 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas died a few too many times. You can't expect to come out of death unscathed, each time she came back she lost a part of herself. She is different from when she was before the death of Arthas.
@Tephr1te
@Tephr1te 5 жыл бұрын
could the 5 torches refer to the destruction of 5 world trees?
@DreadPages
@DreadPages 5 жыл бұрын
@John Arch Emerald Nightmare showed there was 1 on Un Goro at some point in time
@jayoungr
@jayoungr 5 жыл бұрын
@DreadPages Or the 5th could be G'hanir, the mother tree.
@mojolotz
@mojolotz 5 жыл бұрын
Could be. Could also not be. We are not sure at this point.
@rolexdomino7565
@rolexdomino7565 5 жыл бұрын
A nelf had a line that before un goro crater there was a city there.
@fleetwoodcad1
@fleetwoodcad1 5 жыл бұрын
The mesas of Thunder Bluff. The cave with the mushrooms, the spring and the portal is all thats left of its root system.
@libertyprime9891
@libertyprime9891 5 жыл бұрын
They can't even manage two factions though.
@libertyprime9891
@libertyprime9891 5 жыл бұрын
@Right To Censor Are you legitimately trying to shrug off the insanely nonsensical shit that the entirety of BFA has been? "Wait for it guyz the factions will be morally grey, The tree will be a complete mystery" Into "lol sylvanas just burns it because reasons to then nuke her own city and the horde is always evil and the alliance always good"
@kipo8454
@kipo8454 5 жыл бұрын
No game with more than 2 factions has even worked lol Messes up any balance a game us especially in the long run
@Xius_WoW
@Xius_WoW 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine warmode buff for the third faction..60% buff!!
@christopherosborne1957
@christopherosborne1957 5 жыл бұрын
@@kipo8454 I think Planetside 1/2 did pretty damn well considering, though they're FPS games rather than RPGs which changes things considerably.
@TommyDaGreatest
@TommyDaGreatest 5 жыл бұрын
@Kipo Pokemon Go... Nuff said.
@ExplorHits
@ExplorHits 5 жыл бұрын
Bellular's imagination is far ahead of WoW's Dev team Sadly 90% of the "might be" potential won't happen, the current Dev team isn't THAT sophisticated.
@Afthrast
@Afthrast 5 жыл бұрын
well said :(
@misskobeyoshi2500
@misskobeyoshi2500 5 жыл бұрын
Proves that bellulars vids are clickbait
@KC-py5vq
@KC-py5vq 5 жыл бұрын
Ohana how do you know the writers don’t have a grand plan for everything? Stop hating, I think the lore is in a good spot right now.
@dracoinsanity
@dracoinsanity 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I'll believe GOOD storytelling in WOW when I see it with my own eyes. lol I'm not holding my breath. The potential is there in the ideas, but their execution of it is always lacking.
@xgetxsickx
@xgetxsickx 5 жыл бұрын
When you have J. Allen Brack as president, i really can't put any blame on the dev team.
@stickybuds420ish
@stickybuds420ish 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks B! Your love of the lore is contagious. I watch one of your lore vids and instantly crave more...MORE LORE!
@Roamingfirebat
@Roamingfirebat 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t play for the PvP I play for the lore. Been like that since release.
@ShiniesandLuckydos
@ShiniesandLuckydos 5 жыл бұрын
The lore is sooo goooooood!!!
@Mitia_k
@Mitia_k 5 жыл бұрын
Dude after getting rekt in the upcoming raid, the Horde will make a comeback with their iconic wyvern riders and raide-- I mean Old God dark powers. It's like no one making decisions over at Blizzard likes what the actual Horde is - Orcs, Trolls, Taurens, wolfs, shamanism and tribal honor...
@DarkSideOfDawn
@DarkSideOfDawn 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Pal, I generally don't comment on videos but your video inspired me! I've been playing Wow since vanilla and while the game play has something left to be desired, the lore has always fascinated me and I appreciate you doing this video as it always keeps me intrigued as to what might be coming next! Keep up the awesome work!
@Esuzu
@Esuzu 5 жыл бұрын
Love your Lore videos! I think most people can see that you're excited about the lore and that makes for better and more interesting videos as well. I'd love to see more lore speculation on for example whether you think Vol'Jin is coming back and lore summary videos like Nobbel does (but better).
@nicolaspatrignani5034
@nicolaspatrignani5034 5 жыл бұрын
Lore wise, it sounds very cool, a tremendous improvement over the shaky story telling of pre-launch and early Bfa. It would be awesome if player choices actually mattered in how future stories unfold, but I don't really know how they would implement that. Anyway, I don't think good story telling will do much good to the game when the gameplay, progression system, rewards and others are still broken. Crossing my fingers for 8.2 but not really expecting anything. If Asmonbald reads this VI VON
@andi2658
@andi2658 5 жыл бұрын
yes but.. i don't think it should be that major like (maybe) you expected it to be or else we'll have various alternate stories and none of them are actually happening if its just side ones, eh.. why not.. but for major ones maybe the process, but not the conclusion of it
@elkparking
@elkparking 5 жыл бұрын
Can N'zoth recover my legendary weapon?
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 5 жыл бұрын
*Oof* 🙏😔
@yomamapkme
@yomamapkme 5 жыл бұрын
Hector Andem I miss my artifact weapon for unholy... 😢😣😣😔
@bobclaws
@bobclaws 5 жыл бұрын
It's a artifact weapon Holly D
@nhagan001
@nhagan001 5 жыл бұрын
Technically if you give them Deathrattle....they could be. I'm open to breaking a few rules.
@VanAlexi
@VanAlexi 5 жыл бұрын
“Shadows Guide You”, Dark Templar confirmed.
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 5 жыл бұрын
So.... *Shpaladin™* confirmed.
@Dreadlord777
@Dreadlord777 5 жыл бұрын
Belllular, pls keep doing this vídeos man, I love it... Your videos about lore r awesome, so do not abandon this segment of ur work. Ty for ur amazing work bro.
@dracoinsanity
@dracoinsanity 5 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas has a plan, Arthur, she just needs money- er Xal'atath! I love the lore in Warcraft as well, and it was the only thing keeping me playing and hopeful in this expansion as long as I was, but Blizz has just shown time and again how badly they handle their in-game storytelling. They should really take a look at other games like FF14, ESO, or even Blade & Soul with how to SHOW an epic story, rather than just write it in big walls of text with a little "accept" button at the bottom. It doesn't really matter how interesting the lore has gotten these days anymore to me, sadly, because the way they present it is just so poorly lacking in any kind of impact. I care more about random farmer NPCs in a game like FF14 than I do about the main characters in WoW, purely on how the storytelling is handled...
@Drocrest
@Drocrest 5 жыл бұрын
Now this is some creative storytelling. Nice job blizz.
@Rocteruen
@Rocteruen 5 жыл бұрын
This is the most honest and normal comment on the internet right now
@yeoldegaymer1906
@yeoldegaymer1906 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I am excited for this.
@Jerrydrunx
@Jerrydrunx 5 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah i'm interested in the Lore!, i started my journey on Nobbel's channel but then you came up with pretty good theories and videos friend. Keep up the good work!
@Howtard
@Howtard 5 жыл бұрын
11:55 Shoutout to the guard hucking fruit at passers-by while the king isn't looking!
@Zeryurijin
@Zeryurijin 5 жыл бұрын
"At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming." The more you talk about Sylvanas in possession of Xalat'ath and the desire to awaken it from it slumber, the more unsettling this saying becomes. Say she does succeed on making it more powerful. What if it backfires? Sylvanas thinks she is going to gain the upper hand of the faction war, but the more you talk about "unseen" forces guiding her, what if she is merely a pawn in the long run? Which brings Ogmot's entry: Today smoke rises up from da campfire. Smoke tells Ogmot good story. Ogmot sees lady wrapped in dark swirlies. She leads herd of blind sheep. Da sheepies follow her everplace she go. Do everthin she say. Never doubt lady. She guide dem over tall cliff! SPLAT SPLAT SPLAT! Stupid sheepies! Da crows get fat eatin da sheepflesh. Da lady laugh as crows eat! Ogmot laugh too! Horde blindly following their Dark Lady unaware of what she may in store for them. But its too early to tell. If you're Horde though, you guys better be on your toes. There are worse things out there on Azeroth then Old Gods it seems.
@eXileLies
@eXileLies 5 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas already died three times, thusly this line isn't about her.
@zackc3368
@zackc3368 5 жыл бұрын
what if this? what if that?
@T3hKaiser
@T3hKaiser 5 жыл бұрын
It sucks that Bellular has to justify why he likes the lore so much. Stand in your truth, my dude, the people who are whining that it's a dead game or that the lore is meaningless are just noise. None of that is constructive criticism.
@JamesSeda
@JamesSeda 5 жыл бұрын
William Carpenter agreed.
@jasmeetsingh1401
@jasmeetsingh1401 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you don't care to read the lore and quests but I agree with him that the lore is getting interesting. I know that half the people who play the game ever reads the quests that they are doing or watch the in game cinematic( my own brother skips the cinematics and just wants to lvl up fast and do raids and rated arenas), I am not saying that you are one of them it's just if you know the lore and read the Chronicles then you would know that the where this is going is definitely going to be interesting.
@jcdenton5828
@jcdenton5828 5 жыл бұрын
Jasmeet Singh I’ve never been into lore just click quest collect exp. This vid has now got me interested. Thank you Bellular!
@Zanerli
@Zanerli 5 жыл бұрын
I love the lore, its the 2nd reason why I started playing 13 years ago and that I"m still playing today.
@Cifer77
@Cifer77 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! These are my favorite parts about your job too.
@Gravelark
@Gravelark 5 жыл бұрын
I’m excited for the lore. I can’t wait to see what happens next with Xala’tath. This keeps me playing.
@masonmcconnell9375
@masonmcconnell9375 5 жыл бұрын
I love wow lore even when it's bad it's still so good imo.
@RemusNeo
@RemusNeo 5 жыл бұрын
Praise N'zoth!!
@ShiniesandLuckydos
@ShiniesandLuckydos 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome that the lore videos are your favourites to do :D
@karimaliau
@karimaliau 5 жыл бұрын
The lore content you do is honestly my favourite content. Keep it up!
@SilvoKnight
@SilvoKnight 5 жыл бұрын
So... this Legendary Artifact Weapon that just a few months back was being used to kill godlike creatures, admittedly lost its power... Just... Kinda... Went missing? I mean its still in my backpack, I think most people kept their Artifacts close hoping they'd get given another boost of power, or just holding onto them for whatever reason. So whats the narrative behind me, as a shadow priest, loosing my dagger that I keep in the bank? That kinda seems like a sloppy reintroduction.
@insertswear
@insertswear 5 жыл бұрын
The blade slipped away in the same way the One ring did.
@Norsedadgaming
@Norsedadgaming 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking, the one ring always tried to get it's way back to it's TRUE master. What's to say the blade isnt doing the same
@v-virus7785
@v-virus7785 5 жыл бұрын
I love the lore it’s what’s got me started playing this game and that’s only been one year, (I know........newbie) I’ve read the books and anything else I can get my hands on. Just the other day I found a book in the kindle store called “TIME” it’s taken after 3 years of I’m guessing this expansion so I won’t write anymore because there are spoilers. Thank you for your videos and great idea about your new channel I love them both, may it keep growing 👍❤️
@v-virus7785
@v-virus7785 5 жыл бұрын
The book is free in amazon kindle try there 👍👍
@NyatashaAce
@NyatashaAce 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for these videos, Bell. I love Warcraft and I'm so happy I'm able to experience the story when I'm unable to play the game myself. ♥
@stanislavkoev467
@stanislavkoev467 5 жыл бұрын
Me too budy.Me too.
@TehHappyFox
@TehHappyFox 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno how I feel about a third faction. On one hand, the faction war is overdone and a change could be nice. But also, it's always been horde and alliance. Just because the two faction war should die doesn't mean two factions should. I am interested to see how this goes forward.
@2ndCthulhu
@2ndCthulhu 5 жыл бұрын
Strict factions are dumb and do not do the "medieval" world justice. This current expansion should very much convince all the racial leaders that their current diplomatic chains are leading their own people to constantly be involved with wars they'd rather have no part in (Tauren with basically Orcs and Forsaken), or their allies are not making good on their promise of common defense (Night Elves and Worgen with the rest of the Alliance). After BFA, the big factions should be massively downscaled to a name only, and the various diplomatic relationships between the races should be expanded like a net. Give the various city states some actual weight, and have the racial leaders actually look out for their people instead of throwing them into the meatgrinder because the red or blue warchief decided it was time to go a-crackin. The reputation system can still show you with whom you start on better terms but as it stands there should finally be that option to get exalted reputation with a race that is part of the opposite faction to your starting faction.
@gurraglad
@gurraglad 5 жыл бұрын
Dylan A another faction would be a terrible idea.
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 5 жыл бұрын
@@gurraglad no it isnt lol
@felhound93
@felhound93 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnathanera5863 Yes it would XD!
@FirePhoenixMC
@FirePhoenixMC 5 жыл бұрын
Adding a third faction, in a faction war expansion doesn’t make sense to me. The whole part of the expansion was because of the conflict between alliance and horde... of am I wrong
@muxx2810
@muxx2810 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the ilgynoth quote the boy king sits at the Masters table, three lies he will offer you. Especially with what sylvanas said
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 5 жыл бұрын
They could totally surprise us though by having it be about baine instead.
@muxx2810
@muxx2810 5 жыл бұрын
@@booradley6832 yea, they could I just think her choice of words was interesting because several things she said in this video can be tied directly back to ilgynoth quotes
@muxx2810
@muxx2810 5 жыл бұрын
@@booradley6832 honestly, until this datamining of sylvanas dialogue, I though the quote was referring to wrathion
@sephkennedy360
@sephkennedy360 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but when you said "She says hello" about Xal'atath I laughed out loud. Just so casual for an imprisoned old god xD
@InamortasFury
@InamortasFury 5 жыл бұрын
Truly look forward to the lore videos you post!
@adam_14707
@adam_14707 5 жыл бұрын
Asmongold is bald.
@xijed2734
@xijed2734 5 жыл бұрын
Asmonbald
@adventurewondermagic
@adventurewondermagic 5 жыл бұрын
Baldb OMEGALUL i
@Lorenci0
@Lorenci0 5 жыл бұрын
He would actually look cool if he embraced the bald within
@ashy7198
@ashy7198 5 жыл бұрын
Hi chat, this was 100% scripted
@Cruz474
@Cruz474 5 жыл бұрын
Scripted
@Onii-san
@Onii-san 5 жыл бұрын
If theres a 3rd faction i might start playing again just to try out the game again.
@Soulcatcher30
@Soulcatcher30 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind serving Azshara.
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 5 жыл бұрын
It is indeed very interesting. If it's properly executed it could bring me back.
@ANTERIORcs
@ANTERIORcs 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's the intention. The game at it's core will still be shit though unless they drastically change things.
@iuliananitulesei9444
@iuliananitulesei9444 5 жыл бұрын
If you think a 3rd faction will have ANY meaningful impact on the game...you are delusional. They can add 50 factions...as long as everything is CRAP, it won't matter.
@stonechad_squirtle
@stonechad_squirtle 5 жыл бұрын
@@iuliananitulesei9444 i bet its just a recolour anyway
@SilvoKnight
@SilvoKnight 5 жыл бұрын
2:55 "Shadows Guide you" sounds like a reference to one of the Warcraft 3 characters. I remember one of the voice lines being "Shadows Guide me" when you click to tell them to move to a new location. I think it was Sylvanas, but can't remember exactly.
@zackc3368
@zackc3368 5 жыл бұрын
That's the necromancer and it's "let darkness guide me" wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Quotes_of_Warcraft_III/Undead_Scourge
@ahmes004
@ahmes004 5 жыл бұрын
I love your lore vids as well :D great that u enjoy making it and I hope u make more
@krisztian6159
@krisztian6159 5 жыл бұрын
6:03 premiere.exe stopped working
@TobiasKremer
@TobiasKremer 5 жыл бұрын
Love the lore content. But no spoilers for me! I will wait for 8.15... New cut factions might be great to break up the boring old Horde vs. Alliance thing. Because let's get real: when it counts we have to stand together all the time. And at some point there is no more plot contrivance to funnel the conflict. Was strange all the way back in BC where we charged the portal together just to then split up but somehow have a shared capital city in Outland...
@jinolim64
@jinolim64 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't play the game but follows the lore, please keep on doing these videos, Bellular!
@Khamis1203
@Khamis1203 5 жыл бұрын
A 3rd faction, would actually be so cool. One that consists of all races, but also one that is a true evil so we can have that finally.
@-Maeola-
@-Maeola- 5 жыл бұрын
At this point WoW kind of needs something really big to get players back. I would love to see them fix all the mistakes and rise again... but I'm not confident they have the magic anymore.
@Fabisala
@Fabisala 5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. It's true that's impossible make everyone happy, but they've made some decisions that, for me, have ruined many things of the game.
@septra7238
@septra7238 5 жыл бұрын
themurpet GAMERS RISE UP
@Rocteruen
@Rocteruen 5 жыл бұрын
Im all for a 3rd faction! Ive given this a lot of thought. Especially in light of the events in darkshore (as annoying as you may think they are) I believe that sylvanas may be trying to unite everyone in undeath. What if she some what succeeds, and a 3rd faction is born. An undead faction! This is how I would implement it. You create undead models for all the main races, perhaps allied, but not allow the models to be created at lvl 1. Make it a player choice at max level. This would allow for easy implementation. Not making blizzard have to restructure all the old leveling content. The fantasy should be that you were a player of either original faction that has had enough for whatever reason and allows yourself to be raised as an undead. I know ol Sylvie has a following amongst the horde and we could have alliance just raised from dieing in combat. Either way it's clearly time for a change and this would shake things up in a big way
@kimibimi7532
@kimibimi7532 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again for a great video, Bell ! 👍🏻🙂
@Vedrfolfir
@Vedrfolfir 5 жыл бұрын
It is nice, I am glad to see they are still working with their inspiration from H.P.Lovecraft and drawing from that to build the lore. This is one of the areas of this game and the company I have always liked, they delve into the story not just on the surface but try to truly build a universe and keep it alive.
@smokeythagamer8521
@smokeythagamer8521 5 жыл бұрын
The lore and how this “faction war” is going to play out and the fate of the horde is the main reason im still playing. Keep these awesome videos coming 👍👍
@solitudeau8188
@solitudeau8188 5 жыл бұрын
You know EVERYONE is gonna take this :P 1 faction for all!
@RipOffline
@RipOffline 5 жыл бұрын
rip warmode
@RipOffline
@RipOffline 5 жыл бұрын
they could make warmode like a battle royale, fight against everything xD
@jiil9862
@jiil9862 5 жыл бұрын
@@RipOffline oh no
@goran77ish
@goran77ish 5 жыл бұрын
No I won't. I main a paladin an accepting "gifts" like that is not paladin like. I will accept it on an alt tho, to see the story.
@CaptainIcebeard
@CaptainIcebeard 5 жыл бұрын
@@goran77ish I also main a paladin, but my paladin has had a felslate shard inserted in to his arm during Legion and worked together with the Ebon Blade to corrupt the Ashbringer again. It's more about the balance between the Light and the darker forces like Undeath, Fel and Void for my paladin.
@Hawkx10
@Hawkx10 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still having trouble finding the Vol'jin storyline beyond killing G'huun and putting the quest item into G;huun's blood
@wombatpandaa9774
@wombatpandaa9774 5 жыл бұрын
This...actually looks cool, I'm going to save this and play through it when it releases. I'm super close to 120 on my main and I'm hoping the grind will be worth it. *crossing my fingers 8.1.5 is the start of a better BfA*
@inhidewow
@inhidewow 5 жыл бұрын
this is not showing in sub box
@biffy117
@biffy117 5 жыл бұрын
Bwomsandi's boss is Elune. All in.
@thomasdr08
@thomasdr08 5 жыл бұрын
Now THAT’S exciting! I’m genuinely excited for the story of 8.2 and beyond!
@Orang3Om3ga
@Orang3Om3ga 5 жыл бұрын
The lore is the only reason I come back every once in a while
@Panthro-lo2lh
@Panthro-lo2lh 5 жыл бұрын
There's potential here, but these are the seeds that probably wont bloom until the end of this expansion/the next expansion
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah doing it too fast without enough buildup will make it feel lacklustre. And thats the last thing the introduction of a third faction should be.
@TheToneBender
@TheToneBender 5 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to find it difficult to stay interested in wow. Stopped playing about a month into BfA and the story is all tease and no actual progression.
@Gym_firebrand
@Gym_firebrand 5 жыл бұрын
Ricky the story is awesome.
@yeoldegaymer1906
@yeoldegaymer1906 5 жыл бұрын
If you stopped playing a month in how can you make a statement like that? Just curious.
@jeffm2160
@jeffm2160 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gym_firebrand it's really not you're just used to being served garbage
@Skyblade12
@Skyblade12 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gym_firebrand The Alliance don't even HAVE a story once they're done leveling.
@Gym_firebrand
@Gym_firebrand 5 жыл бұрын
Jr rM I played Warcraft since the 90s, the heck you talking about?
@HavocHounds1988
@HavocHounds1988 5 жыл бұрын
It seems a lot of people haven't seen the source of Xal'atath's new body. When you finish the channel of the Void Stone, a void bolt flies out and into the dead Blood Elf (maybe she's a High Elf not sure) but basically Xal'atath is taking on a void infused version of the now dead Elf before you.
@baseballfan4877
@baseballfan4877 5 жыл бұрын
That pit of saron piano cover is a great choice for background music.
@ssejr01
@ssejr01 5 жыл бұрын
Sylvannas is also running out of Valkyr lol
@cynreiusacari3163
@cynreiusacari3163 5 жыл бұрын
We all know her deal with Helya is to prevent that.
@jasmeetsingh1401
@jasmeetsingh1401 5 жыл бұрын
we actually don't know what deal she made with Helya and also we found out that Helya is still alive. Even if Genn ruined Sylvanas's plans her deal with Helya still holds true.
@SnarkyLesbian
@SnarkyLesbian 5 жыл бұрын
"The boy king has lied to himself and his people. He hasn't the faintest inkling of what he's up against." But if he doesn't know what he is up against, then how is he lying? I may be a bit pedantic here, but if you talk about something you believe to be true, that turns out not to be true, you are not actually lying. A lie is an intentional use of falsehood. Go back to school Sylvanas.
@rasako9742
@rasako9742 5 жыл бұрын
Anduin hasn't seemed very confident that the war is going to end any time soon in most cinematics, and i think that's just her calling his bluff.
@Ultimaton100
@Ultimaton100 5 жыл бұрын
Those two sentences don’t have to refer to the same thing. Your hate clouds your judgement.
@tiredtobias
@tiredtobias 5 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas is literally the worst written character. She has no motives so far. Just being evil
@zackc3368
@zackc3368 5 жыл бұрын
He thinks that the war is nearly over, and has convinced the alliance that this is so - this is the lie as Sylvanas has plans. Quite clear if you get rid of the Windrunner hate
@Ultimaton100
@Ultimaton100 5 жыл бұрын
Tobyuoso Sylvanas hasn’t done anything worse than Jaina, Genn, and Varian, and you Alliance fanboys worship those so-called “heroes.” 🙄
@ZephyrDaze
@ZephyrDaze 5 жыл бұрын
I imagine they could go with Sylvanas using the blade to draw out some void stuff from out of the Alliance leaders. If the Boy King DOES sit at the master's table, that means he is unwittingly corrupted by the void. He DID accept the Void Elves after all.
@tickle101
@tickle101 5 жыл бұрын
You are ROCKING that jumper!
@mazjap
@mazjap 5 жыл бұрын
3rd faction would be cool I would resub for that
@ZinfandelRed1914
@ZinfandelRed1914 5 жыл бұрын
If it happens I suspect it's done for a cash grab(what WoW fan wouldn't want to try them?)
@lPsychoMax
@lPsychoMax 5 жыл бұрын
As guild wars 2 showed, 3 factions is the best. Because with 2 factions 1 side will dominate the other in areas for some time; look at wintergrasp and you'll see what I mean. It's either mostly horde or mostly alliance. 3 Factions means it can be anyone's win. Sure you may not win all the time but, it doesn't leave say a place like wintergrasp mostly 1 factions; it would flipflop between them. That and what it comes to raids, you get a choice. Although I really wish the scourge was a faction or a new faction for hero classes; it would keep them unique compared to others and people will recognise hero classes as this other faction. That and horde and alliance are mostly either misunderstood heroes or misunderstood villians. Never a flat-out Neutral or misunderstood neutral. Maybe they would be the mercenaries of the world; but if this N'zoth thing works out; i'm okay with it.
@BigPapaKaiser
@BigPapaKaiser 5 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Since when does GW2 have factions?
@lPsychoMax
@lPsychoMax 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigPapaKaiser realm vs realm had a 3v3 mode. 3 realms all fighting for the same Battlegrounds; was really fun and intense!
@reeven1721
@reeven1721 5 жыл бұрын
DAoC would be a better example.
@lPsychoMax
@lPsychoMax 5 жыл бұрын
@@reeven1721 Probably, but as long as the message get's across i'm open to admitting my mistakes. GW2 wasn't the best example, still: 3 factions will always be fun ^^
@Gnorde
@Gnorde 5 жыл бұрын
The lore is what always pulls me back to wow. Sadly I never stay long after I’ve caught up with the story.
@MrAntonny195
@MrAntonny195 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, blizzard, just hire him. His ideas and insights into wow players feelings would greatly benefit the game
@fraud291
@fraud291 5 жыл бұрын
Nzoth is actually ted cruz
@Chloraflora
@Chloraflora 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think N'Zoth is that evil tbh
@ShadowWolfRising
@ShadowWolfRising 5 жыл бұрын
Why you gotta insult N'Zoth like that?
@pyloniac
@pyloniac 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Asmon! :)
@emmsnake
@emmsnake 5 жыл бұрын
This sounds like it has some very cool potential!
@norsealaskan6834
@norsealaskan6834 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutly love the lore as well as the over all story, even including BFA. I love that the designers are doing there best and are creating a really fun game, I would love to see the community take the game for what it is and lose some of the hate
@hypedmaniac8444
@hypedmaniac8444 5 жыл бұрын
It would NEVER happen, but imagine this: After the events of BfA, N’Zoth takes everyone who chose not to remove the gift and forges his own faction. As such, a system similar to Warmode is implemented, in which, like Alliance vs Horde, people with and without the gift can fight. However, to make it seem as if each kill is meaningful, losing a fight does not result in death. If a person without the gift beats someone with the gift, they free the person from N’Zoth’s gift. If a person with the gift beats someone who doesn’t have it, the gift spreads to that person. As a result, non-gift players would migrate to less populated regions in hopes of not getting into PvP. Grouping up in the open world for protection would be mandatory, too. PvP enthusiasts might go out and seek for the opposing faction, giving what they love an actual feeling of impact on Azeroth. Large-scale assaults might be carried out on cities from people with the gift in a bid to spread it to hundreds of players at once. And then there are those traitors to your side, who will INTENTIONALLY go out and allow someone with/without the gift to beat them. Of course, that would take Blizzard to genuinely care about world content and the community to be invested in this. But I think it’s a cool idea.
@frogi3776
@frogi3776 5 жыл бұрын
People that dont want the gift would suicide and servers are already lagging when 10 people in 1 zone fight
@storrostorro6969
@storrostorro6969 5 жыл бұрын
I still think it is crazy how people think 2mil subs is a dead game.
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 5 жыл бұрын
Vocal minorities. Silent majorities.
@karlezeth2628
@karlezeth2628 5 жыл бұрын
Inorite, and those are just NA / EU subs. China probably has something similar. If any other MMO had a paltry 1 million subs, they'd be considered wildly successful.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah wow used to have atleast 10 mil
@davincisama
@davincisama 5 жыл бұрын
The other way to look at it is that they lost 80% of the playerbase since the game had around 12 million players.
@wadewilson5712
@wadewilson5712 5 жыл бұрын
its not dead but it is dying and the 2 mil was listed as active toons total not accounts so it may be lower
@matsamushi
@matsamushi 5 жыл бұрын
I am very much looking forward to more of the story. This is what I am still playing for.
@christophermiller5433
@christophermiller5433 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually an awesome step forward in the process. For all of Blizzards’ faults with BfA, they usually do a solid job with the overall narrative. Everyone who went through Legion endgame and unlocked the Mag’har Orcs know that Light \= Good and Shadow priests and Warlocks know that Void \= Bad. Everyone will remember Xe’ra forcefully converting Illidan to them have him literally melt her. Therefore, the Void and N’Zoth might be ‘good’ in certain aspects like the rest of the races. I don’t believe a third faction would be coming, however I see a progression to Warcraft IV towards Light (being the races of Azeroth) vs Void (races of Azeroth that are corrupted) or throw Death in there somehow as Emissarys like the DK’s are now. The Light will go along with curing Azeroth and using that as it’s home base, while the Void will have some other planet already converted. The only problem with siding with the Void however is what happens after everything is converted? There has to be some higher powers at play, perhaps as the Old Gods being pawns to some higher Void Lords and they wanna rebel against their oppressors or something. Probably never gonna happen but being optimistic can’t hurt :P
@wdf70
@wdf70 5 жыл бұрын
I love how nobody in this game learns anything. Hey Sylvanus, remember what happened when the old warchief used the power of an old god? No? Ok, continue. Looking forward to seeing her ripped apart by an old god as they're unleashed on Ironforge while the alliance launches a counter attack on Mulgore. You know to keep faction balance. (lol)
@strixalba7501
@strixalba7501 5 жыл бұрын
Basically isnt sylvanas that has no memory, the writers only repeat the game stories now its MoP turn
@andydawg2655
@andydawg2655 5 жыл бұрын
Asmonbald is gold.
@krisdoubleday8199
@krisdoubleday8199 5 жыл бұрын
Baldmongold is Asmon, let that sink in!
@xuien
@xuien 5 жыл бұрын
I agree bellular, I know many love to hate where the lore is going. but I love it even with the bad parts that it brings I just love seeing where it goes because whether its good or not its the continuation of the story that I have come to love and really what has kept me so attached to this game for so long. No other game will probably be able to get me so attached to lore like this has because of timing in my life that I grew attached to it and the time I have spent playing the game.
@thejameslock1
@thejameslock1 5 жыл бұрын
Super pumped for this video!
@CadaverJunky8
@CadaverJunky8 5 жыл бұрын
You're hot. That's it
@itsrin868
@itsrin868 5 жыл бұрын
lol okay. sure. third faction. DIRE CONSEQUENCES.. more like one side gets a toy/mount/cloak and the other gets the same thing with a different skin. thats all this game is now, a collection game. nothing interesting or innovative is going to happen
@devindelgrego4500
@devindelgrego4500 5 жыл бұрын
We found the casual
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 5 жыл бұрын
@@devindelgrego4500 You are the casual the reward for doing good in raids and arena is the mounts.
@Fabisala
@Fabisala 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! That what the game is now about.
@dscruiter
@dscruiter 5 жыл бұрын
I like Sylvanas. She is driven by seeking a way to keep her kind, the forsaken, from extinction. This as good as any other primal reason for her actions and future character development.
@BRWednesday
@BRWednesday 5 жыл бұрын
The lore is what keeps me going. Sure there are some retcons and things I don't agree with here and there, but as a whole, the lore keeps me coming back. I'm so fascinated by where we go next, what we do next. I think, whenever the Warcraft stories concludes, we're going to have one heck of a story to look back on and say "I was a part of that".
@profrollchen9946
@profrollchen9946 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to enjoy the lore but I can't. The lore should look like a puzzle and not like a morning after somebody drugged you with roofies. Everytime I check on it, only more questions arise. There are no answers along the way. Only foggy suggestions that almost always raise at least one more question. The lore officially has reached a "Hydra-state" where everytime we "discover" a hint, 3 new questions arise. That is not motivating at all because it is also time gated. I can't play through the whole damn story if I want to. So why should I play at all when I can just wait till the end and then get a fluid story.Its nearly half a year and we still don't fucking know why Sylvanas burned that tree. This is getting too close to the "story seasons" of GW2. It does not work there and it will not in WoW.
@Aphorism89
@Aphorism89 5 жыл бұрын
Do you realize that for that to happen, there could not be World of Warcraft at all for about 1 whole year... again?
@profrollchen9946
@profrollchen9946 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aphorism89 Maybe it is time that ppl understand that with Legion Blizzard had reached whole new level of quality and that is needs time to develope things. I personally have no problem with waiting a year if they can improve.
@H4rd5tyl3
@H4rd5tyl3 5 жыл бұрын
@@profrollchen9946 you talk about giving blizz time to develop things and yet you state lore is garbage coz its only new questions. I wish you were trolling, sadly...
@profrollchen9946
@profrollchen9946 5 жыл бұрын
@@H4rd5tyl3 Two things that have nothing to do with each other. Not the lore is garbage but the way it is presented. Like a book or a movie but after 20 min. somebody forces you to stop read / watch and tells you to wait a few month. That is not working out. If they want a character driven lore then they have to deliver it quickly and not with long breaks inbetween.
@aidanconaway7658
@aidanconaway7658 5 жыл бұрын
This game is 14 years old and there are many times that they leave questions but they always answer it,and wrap it too a end by ending the expansion,the end of a expansion is like the ending of a book,there is always a chance too have a sequal. Of course they have too have more questions becausd 1. Sooooo many people love speculation 2. If there were no questions than it would be boring and the twist in the story seem underwellming. Like the other guy said, I really wish you were trolling but it dosent seem like it.
@linkzellda
@linkzellda 5 жыл бұрын
Blizzard: Battle For Azeroth is all about faction conflict! Me: Yea sure Blizzard! Keep lying.
@hansfriedemann739
@hansfriedemann739 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, and finally some cool stuff from Blizz again, I like that.
@justmadesomethingup
@justmadesomethingup 5 жыл бұрын
Fellow Lore nerd! Thank you for this insight!
@Leelamon
@Leelamon 5 жыл бұрын
Am not watching this because Bellular is always hyping the next patch and then it falls flat on it's face.
@ksytsma4realyo
@ksytsma4realyo 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like lots of fun. Too bad the classes still suuuuuuuuuck.
@jasmeetsingh1401
@jasmeetsingh1401 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy shaman, mage, warrior and DH. Currently I am levelling my paladin and rogue.
@Palisis
@Palisis 5 жыл бұрын
Love the lore. Keep doing these.
@joshuamcguire2423
@joshuamcguire2423 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few things that (MIGHT) save wow, she's had a good long run tho!
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