P/s: About Yurina's case, it was also reported that it was her staff who liked the hate comment, not Yurina herself. Fans also made it clear that the staff didn't know it was a hate comment and just hit like in bulk. We're sorry for not including this in the video in the first place. Jesus, things are just so complicated! 😱

I feel bad for Yurina tbh she didn't debut and now people accuse her of things she didn't do

I love how she gets straight to the point and avoids the long intros

I want to remind that in every wayv interview, they point Lucas as the member that shows his love the most to the other members, since 2019. not only wayv, but other members such as Taeyong and Shotaro expressed the same.

CAN WE JUST APPRECIATE HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS IN ONE VIDEO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

dont spread misinformation ! the comment yurina’s staff liked, wasnt a hate comment ! I stan bahiyyih but leave yurina alone she did nothing wrong.

The Yurina cases is mistranslated. Shame on those people. ☹️

Jae is really something he really thought he is a not a k-pop idol anymore and thought he can say whatever he like and he said "I hope not" as he may or may not say again I hope he won't say something like this again

I can’t believe we never got jalapeno just because of some jealous people who wanted to ruin Lucas’s career

Yurina's situation was actually the staff liking random comments! Please clarify as this might ruin her image

"i hope not" is the truth, "i wont" is a lie. no one knows whats gonna happen in the future

when the situation with Jae came up, many people in the comments began to generalize the situation in the other direction: if there are two-faced idols with a bad personality, then it means that all idols are like that. It has also been said that all native English-speaking idols (and sometimes even all non-Korean idols) are likely to be two-faced which is complete nonsense. In my opinion, there are originally evil, neutral and good people, and among idols you can find all of them. Everybody knows that no matter what, all idols need to be polite, but it's still hard to pretend for a long time if surrounded by cameras 24/7, the truth always comes out. It's not difficult to understand who is who according to the general impression: if a person tends to offend others, criticize or laugh at them, then it's quite obvious that such a person cannot be good. But even such people are not hopeless, some of them can work on themselves and change for the better. But sadly not all of them.

Both Yurina and Bahiyyih don't deserve hate ☹️ I really felt bad for them

Well ... idols are people too - we should never forget it and bitching behind their back is quite normal ... be mature and have to understand that we don't like everyone everytime .

Bad mouthing is pretty normal and we all do this type of thing It's bad I agree but we don't know reality of other side And what they said was not correct as well

Please don’t spread misinformation the real case of Yurina was a staff was liking random comments also the comments were mistranslated

Update : you were wrong about hongbin saying he would hit the choreography hongbin as a trainee and in mydol he wasn’t very good at dancing so he meant that he would of ended hitting the choreographer by accident because he couldn’t dance very well like he could now

Yurina’s case was a BIG FRAUD she did not badmouth about Bahiyyih 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

About yurina's case, it was actually her staff who liked the comment...😶

Dont spread false things, the whole Yurina thing has already been prooved to be misunderstanding

I hope more people watch this video so that they'll realise that Lucas is innocent. Like I don't know why people just believe whatever they were heard without proof

Yurina did not like that comment herself, it's the staff that did it and they probably didn't even read all those comments tbh coz at that time, they almost like every comment in there. It was a mistake and not intended hate towards Bahiyyih

People are stupid to hate on yurina, clearly she did nothing wrong the whole situation is just messed up. Even before the truth about the situation was revealed people jump into conclusions. The comment she (her staff)liked was mistranslated. She is a talented girl who was one of the best contestant from the show. Please stop hating on her. She doesn't deserve it.

I wait for your video almost everyday. Keep it up UNNIE ❤️❤️❤️

Tbh, Jae's case shows us that we shouldn't think of our idols as gods and worship, because what we see is heavily edited, completely filtered, we don't know who they are in real life. A lot of times, they have to keep the words in, they want to say. But not every idol is bad, like the member of Vixx, he got drunk and said shit, there are idols who drink on live and yet maintain their image and be who they are.

Ive been following yurinas tik tok since early on and she would like every comment , regardless of what they say. It is not fair that they are taking this ONE comment that she liked like if she did it maliciously. now I know why idols never like comments or even have their comments turned off.

Please do research first before uploading a video. Yurina didn't do anything wrong, clarification has been made by the op who wrote the comment on her tiktok. It's a pity a well known channel like you spreading false information. IMO you should upload the clarification video about Yurina so your viewers will get the real facts or just simply delete this video.

Im just finding out for Hongbin! He was my favorite in VIXX! Thats so crazy! Waiting for Lucas' comeback

Hongbin never targed the idols personally. He only talked about his opinion about the artistic decisions of their companies.

you acknowledge that the comment wasn’t even hate and liked by yurina’s staff. why’d you even include yurina in this video if she’s not a kpop idol???

What's the matter with spreading false rumors?? Lucas badmouthing NCT?? You wish. Lucas is the member that loves the group the most, the one who CARES the most. It's a fact most of the fandom came in all thanks to him... So you're using an old scandal and creating false information all based on the old rumor??? The gf/bf scandal has NOTHING to do with badmouthing. Also this rumor has proven false. You just love to look for spice because you don't have it in your own life. But there is nothing here so go on. Lucas has nothing to do with this video.

this is spreading a misleading information with regards to yurina and hiyyih’s case the situation was already forgotten why are u bringing it up

Hongbin destroyed his own career, he was one of my bias in VIXX...so sad🙃

Hongbin fked up bad 💀💀😭 companies should make sure their idols don't go live drunk 👁️👄👁️

Geez you make good videos Unnie😉 U nice keep going

I love how you don't waste time to tell what video goona be and BTW I'm your new subscriber 😍

The hongbin one needs a whole video on its own since there was more to this conversation not that anything was wrong in this video but that hongbin is also a victim in this but also the villain for what he said

PLSS yurina’s not even a kpop idol 😭 pls leave my girl alone

How could you forget Yewon lol. She's the #1 case of losing your career for badmouthing someone.

Bro I've never been so sad about a scandal more than Jae's :( he gave me this weird future Jay Park vibes 🤮

Yurina is liking all the comments in her videos, and surely she don't read those, and after the issue, she turned off her comment section at tiktok.

Jae is such a problematic. I hope he gets professionally help.

3:57 not much related but hyungwon meme is so fit here.

I feel bad for both Bahiyyih and Yurina. Both the girls don't deserve the hate tbh. Bahiyyih has been getting all kinds of hate since day1 and when she debuted, yurina stans also started to jump on bahiyyih hate bandwagon and started to blame on hiyyih for Yurina not getting in cause since bahiyyih was already everyone's target it was easy to blame someone and hate on her. but here's the thing, Yurina unfortunately failing to debut has nothing to do with Bahiyyih or any of the Kep1er girls, the show was based on voting and some of the current top9 kep1er girls were not in top9 before the final ep but their fans VOTED for them especially during the final voting, if they really wanted their pick to debut then they should have voted instead of wasting their time on hating other girls. And tbh as someone who voted for their pick every day I can tell you that the voting was not rigged. Especially for Chaehyun, Bahiyyih, Yujin and Hikaru they had the most solo fans that's why who watched the show and had update on the ranking and voting strategy already knew that these girls were already on top. That's why Yurina stans and people should stop giving death threats and making hate videos towards Bahiyyih (I'm writing hiiyih's name cause she is the main target of haters). Bahiyyih stans are huge but they are not the ones who start to send hate on other girls. Also about this Yurina case the manager or the company whoever liked that comment should've said something for clarification cause death threats and killing stuff is nothing to joke about or ignore. They should've at least taken some responsibility.

Some random girl came and spread false infos and y'all believed it right away. Leave Lucas alone tf

I hope you can delete this video or make a follow up... Yurina got a lot of hate over a Mistranslation and your video helps spreading this misinformation instead of clearing it. Yurina doesn't manage her account. Her staff likes random comments too they're not even reading. But the biggest misunderstanding is the content of the comment. The comment was made by a Yurina anti and Bahiyyih fan. They already came forward and cleared everything by revealing the comment wasn't a hate comment. Rather the comment was informing about the hate she's been receiving. Also it was translated from Indonesian to Japanese so it was badly formulated.

Funny how you put a video of jae actually saying what he said but not for Hongbin. Are we supposed to take your word for it then? Because a lot of people would without finding out what he actually said.

Nice video today's ❤💖💗

Amazing topics

I really donno Yurina personally but don't u think she might have accidentally liked the comment while reading through. I've done that alot. And why would she do it intentionally when she knows she'll get attack by other fans.

Honestly, Yurina's situation is not that complicated, if only people don't simply assume based on a few hit tweets and quickly jump into the bandwagon. If everyone takes time to read the comment properly, it is VERY obvious that the comment was only informing Yurina about the hates received by Hiyyih, instead of harassing her. There are also a few people who try to spread around that the op is Hiyyih's fans and the comment is continued by asking Yurina to stop her fans from attacking Hiyyih (with a few screenshots to prove their claims), but there were still hundreds of people who keep claiming that "Yurina liked a hate comment about Hiyyih", "Yurina supported dt towards Hiyyih", "Yurina liked Hiyyih's anti comment" and a lot more, which are very misleading and the main reason why people who could not care to interpret the comment logically, end up believing the hit tweets which actually spreading misinformation. But you know what--even after the op finally uploaded a clarification video regarding their comment, ALL the accounts who posted the hit tweets did not even bother to clarify things to their followers. Like where are all those people who claim to seek justification? So hypocrites. However, I would not deny that Yurina's management team still has something to be responsible. They are known to like almost every single comment exist in Yurina's tiktok videos (I've read somewhere that they even liked hate comments about Yurina, but I don't know if this information is valid), so regardless, they are proven to be unprofessional. I mean--what kind of a verify account liked a comment about someone getting hates? That's just questionable to begin with. And I also understand that Hiyyihlights and Kep1ians are very protective with Hiyyih, it is fine to be protective and did what's right such as sending emails to WakeOne, but well--you guys just did the EXACT same things like what the antis did to Hiyyih, which made you equal with them. "So Hiyyih can receives hates while others could not?"--no that's NOT the point. If you are someone who don't mind stooping low to get revenge to someone else, you do you, but don't get mad when someone gives the same reason like yours to hate on your faves back. That's just how the whole hate bandwagon works, the cycle will keep continuing, unless if you stop doing what others do, which rarely happen considering how provocative antis are and how protective fans are. To anyone who wants to claim that "no one is hating on Yurina or Hiyyih", I'm sorry but I've seen them ALL, well, almost. I'm sorry that I'm ranting here and I might offend anyone with my words, I'm sorry if that's the case. But this is just my personal point of view, and of course someone would disagree with me.

idk i feel like jae kind of proves that just because someone is/was an idol doesnt mean they have a good or appealing personality

I thought lucus problem is over. Since some nctzens really proved was fake. If am could take action this wouldn't have happened. So sad the jalapeno was not out

This is pure bullshit. Stop misinforming. After almost two years you still can't get a little information to know that what happened with Hongbin wasn't like that AT ALL. Of course, what he did was not the most appropriate but it is not how they want to make it look, he did not even flipped off the audience in that context and Leo never apologized on his "bad behalf". Thanks to videos like this, he still receives the harassment he receives.

Jae's response "I hope not" is actually perfectly aligned with what he was saying. His claim, paraphrased, is that he did not realize what he did. Which also explains why he dug himself so deep during the first live. You can't expect someone to never ever do something he doesn't even realize again. It's literally impossible. His answer "I hope not" speaks for his awareness of that. He may desire to learn but he can't guarantee he won't do something like this again before he learns enough to not be blind to it anymore. Also a kind reminder he's neurodivergent. The way people insisted on what his intentions must be and what his thoughts must be to me showed people's maturity. To many it's more important to virtue signal than to give a person grace. It's easy to give people grace when you don't see their actions and words as that bad. It's easy to forgive someone's actions and words if they didn't really hurt you that much. But how about when they do? Do you give grace then, do you forgive then? Love is not fangirling over someone and supporting them by voting for award shows. Love is patience, kindness, always wishing for the best for someone. Read that now seen as clishe verse in Corinthians about love. That's what love is.

Everyone want to be first but no one wanna be the last🗿

Oh man this is mess up, I didn't know about Hongbin's case and I'm just shook. Also about Yurina, after reading the comments I feel sad. I was rooting for her on the show and after she couldn't make it breaks my heart and now she is getting dragged into this. And I have seen comments talking about her not being talented enough and that nobody wanted her in the final line up after the end of GP and the debut of Kepler and that's just heartbreaking

Yeah I was disappointed in Hongbin, that was not the way to discuss something like that… Also there is no need to bring down VIXX for one member’s actions, because VIXX is not a flop, they just aren’t active.

Yurina's staff confirm that the staff or yurina's management is the one liking to all comments to interact with fans an dmaybe accidentally pressed it because the staff or the management thought it was a comment about yurina but it was a death threats or hate about bahiyyih. Correct me if i was wrong and please don't hate yurina, it's not her fault it's the staff, but the staff should at least apologize for liking the comment. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Damn Hongbin's brain really stabedd him in the back. As it should.

yurina never did the things but got accused for that.

1:13 the comment is from a throw it back rosie video I- 😭😭😭

LOL Yurina didn't make comments about hiyyih. WTF

May I remind you that kind of things are common on this side of the world... the only diference is that the fan base of each idol are ruthless.

STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION ABOUT YURINA

Not the time but I burst laughing at the Vixx guy😂😂 Imagine waking up next day and finding out the disaster he caused😂

First view first comment I don't get why kawaguchi yurina got so much hate her case was a lot less serious as compare to the other idols

I feel like people are a little obsessed with Yurina, they even blame her for Jnetz hating Bahiyyih when Jnetz never likes Yurina. She was pushed through the show by international fans and Koreans. If she was well liked in Japan she probably would have made it into the lineup. Japanese audience didn’t like that she was switching careers suddenly when she was already doing well as an actress. I doubt Yurina wants people to hate Hiyyih for her. The comment her staff liked was along the lines of “Yurina can you stop your fans from hating Bahiyyih they’ve even been threatening her life.” Somehow it got around that she liked hate comments about her.

In K-pop you NEVER diss your seniors.

Idk about hongbin but it's his opinion at the end of the day he just didn't like exo's music like not everyone is gonna like what you like

Wow what a way to get clout other than spreading false informations on popular idols 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yurina and Hiy are close in real life and I know Yurina wouldn't want people to hate on hiy for her both fans are just wilding on Tiktok and twitter. This issue shouldn't even be here because yall seriously just SPREADING MISINFORMATION AGAIN. Both girls will have hate comments and death threats again!!!

NCT is basically a big Family💚 Lucas would never badmouth anyone!

Im so sad some kpop got bad cus they had bad mental health. but also im so sad that the reality hurts some kpop was hiding there real attitude

hongbin just gave his opinion ☠️?

Well... It's just a common case of "Celebrity Disease"

Drinking and speaking at the same time is always a bad idea

Okay I don't really know Jay or listen to day 6 but I am kind of going to defend him a little bit on this only because I'm from the states and I didn't even know what the hell the word thot was until now, so there's a chance he might be telling the truth but then again since he is famous and I'm pretty sure he's came across that's where maybe once or twice either he heard it and thought somebody was losing it as a just a cool slang or he knew what the metaphor of that were meant but if not just because you grew up in the states doesn't always mean you know all the slangs.

yurina has done nothing wrong

Why not put the video of Hongbin saying all that? He just made opinions of the music not the idols themselves as persons. Mostly about how SM treat their idols and some remixes. I know it's not right to get drunk in first place, yeah, but he didn't deserved all the hate, bullying, and cancellation that he suffered and lead him to left VIXX He also apologized for everything, but since some fans of the groups involved are just to immature to accept opinions about the music of their idols. He is no longer in the kpop industry now

Love the songs but don't get obsessed with your idols, they don't know you and you don't know their true color.

I'm so confused about the whole Lucas thing.

All these cases are so dumb, I don’t even question kpop fans’ analytical skills. How is it not obvious that these people spit insights of the industry (attitude-wise) and not being mean ?

Bahiyyih deserves so much better, she’s so sweet and hasn’t done anything wrong.

How is it that Red Velvet doesn't know what the public wants with Red Flavour but it was one of the most popular songs they ever put out?

Can u make a video on the Enhypen Jake necklace controversy

SHINee and EXO are kings who created a lot so now new groups can do a lot and everybody should know that and understand. So im really disappointed of words i heard...Also i think we all know that Lucas story was completely made up

The whole comment took this opportunity to hate on Jae congrats! Jamie forgave and yall still on it Not supporting the LGBTQ doesnt make you homophobic 😂.No one has too support you if they dont want to.Yall the same ones bashing religious people

WHAT i'm a huge vixx fan how on earth i never heard of that?? omg 2020...

It’s not up to idol to judge other idol it’s up to their fans

Perhaps Jae was never a good person. People who are willing to be blunt like that without thinking about it are people you should not be around, no matter how famous they are.

I actually felt bad for hongbin, hope he find better career after this

Hanging has the right to have his opinions. People deem me as mean/blunt just because I have alot of opinions. (Even though he deserved to be kicked out for having too much mouth)

yall gotta remember vixx and exo have been friends for years. the comments about exo were light. and for the other groups, he was mainly talking about remixes. not the groups themselves but remixes, which are unofficial. as a musician and a dancer , i believe he is allowed to do that and that the situation was blown out of proportion.

But he still should think twice before he used words that he does not know what they mean cuz you'll never know if they could be insulting or a compliment before you say anything don't use a word you don't know or understand he should have did some research on what that word meant.

Please fix the misinformation, Yurina is innocent. I spent days to shut the hate comment off about Yurina not to see this concern comment seen as a hate comment again. If you didn't do enough observation about situation just keep silence and don't spread misinformation. The comment is taken out from the real context. The one who comment it is Bahiyyih stan. Why would she sent hate and dts to her bias? The problem is the staff liking random comment and they already apologized for our disappointment and will prevent this happening again in the future. This case is cleared already ://

dig more before posting this...tsk tsk

Celebrity also just human being,they had some errors and can/allowed to make mistakes. No body's perfect,who never make mistakes in this universe?

Accounts like this makes a false negative rumours made by antis makes it look like a big deal and popular for the sake of the own benefits (they want to have contents and spread misinformation which most of the people didn’t know it in the first place🤦‍♀️). The amount of KZfaqrs who spread this kind of misinformation for their own benefits and makes it looks like they defend the idol! THEY ARE TRULY DISGUSTING

There are some peoples who are like JAE. Peoples become a BAD person like JAE maybe when They're done with their self or their Life. I think now JAE is very Angry because the way his company treats him. Sometimes peoples like JAE become very bad when they're not treated good enough. It can made them bad from the good one. I'm not defending jay but correct me if I'm wrong.