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Interesting week with the .410. First time shooting the new 410 cartridges from Hull. Getting used to this tiny ultra lightweight with a kids short stock is hard enough :O now I have to relearn how to shoot with the new cartridges. The previous Hull High Pheasant fibre wad were pretty awesome things, huge hitting power and fast! from that 410 but with awful patterns, gaps everywhere from this cylinder choked o/u game gun. When Hull discontinued them I tried Gamebore 18g 7s fibre wad but for me, they were utterly awful (for me in this gun). Very very slow, so slow the shotkam perfectly recorded the shot cloud going out for a couple of seconds! I could not hit anything with those. I had to give massive lead and lob them! bye bye to those, hello to these new 7.5 shot 18 gram. So having shot 50 of them, they are not as fast as the previous High Pheasant, they don't appear to hit quite as hard either, maybe about 80% hard hitting. They have a little less recoil than the High Pheasants, now in 7.5 rather than 7 shot. Don't know about the shot pattern yet, will try to work that out later this week. In the absence of anything else in 3" close to 1400 fps then these seem to be the ones i'll have to shoot from now on and just re-learn how I need to shoot these ones. Well I did buy this old 410 to challenge myself, so I guess I achieved what I wanted :O. Short kids stock 13 inch. Fixed cylinder & cylinder choke, 5lbs in weight, infact putting the shotkam on the barrel doubles the overall weight"!! :O VERY fast handling, too fast! you can get too far in front all too easy and doesn't lead to the smoothest video footage either! I love it! Wish it fitted me... oh well, I'll cut my teeth on this one and then move to a CG, Beretta or BR110 sporter IF?? .410 will exist with the upcoming lead ban??