you know theres just something special about a round when people still use and talk about it when its 150 years old,

I've got a .45-70 Guide Gun, a .45-70 Double rifle and a .45-70 single shot. love em all!

You can beat me with a scope. But I just can’t bring myself to put a scope on my Henry side loader. The things a work of art.

I sure do like a 45-70. The one I have was my dad's it sure does bring back a lot of good memories every time I shoot it

Rarely do you ever have to shoot more than once at a deer so that first shot you had with each type of ammo is your impact point as you will be shooting a cold gun. Until I had private property where i could take my time at the range i never realized just how much point of impact could change after just one shot. I have a 450 bushmaster that is dead on and i mean dead on at 100 yards on a cold shot but subsequent shots shifted 4 inches high and 3 inches left. Once i could wait 15 minutes between shots i could see that first shot was the correct shot and the rest were a warm barrel grouping. Just something to think about.

My Marlin GBL is perfectly happy with the 325gr FTX. Roughly 1 to 1.5" groups at 100yds. My dad's early ported 1895G would clover leaf with them. I just found out the hard way not to leave a spotting scope on the bench when touching off a ported, short barreled 45-70.

It's always good to see the leverguns out.. especially the 4570..🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Anxious to see if your 1895 likes my choice: Hornady 325 grainers. I've put 3 through 1 ragged hole at 100 yards more than once. (Scoped of course)

Fantastic video! Good ammo comparison. Fort Scott Munitions is awesome! Whitetail, elk, and moose here we come. Good work!

I love how you're hiding out in the bathroom so as to not disturb the wife. :) Love your stuff, Hank Hill!

Fort Scott, huh?! Yeah, this ammo’s not cheap. When you figure a “long shot” of 200 yards, a .625” group at 100 yards is necessary. I love that a 300 grain slug is hardly effected by a cross wind, and it will drop a bear or wolf in their tracks. Thanks for this video, cause I’m switching to Fort Scott 300 grains from now on. Thanks again, Bill from Minnesota.

a gun and caliber thats been on my want list for a long time

I took a Marlin 1895 guide gun white tail hunting. I used the Hornady 325grn FTX round. I sighted in at 100yrds. I took a 150yrd shot on a big buck thinking there would be minimal drop. I was wrong. The shot dropped quite a bit and was not clean. I had to track the dear for about a mile. Barrel length, ammunition choice, and proper load testing at all ranges are critical. With a short barreled .45-70, 50yrds makes a surprising difference.

A lot of people say putting a scope on a lever rifle takes away from the historical look. Personally I think if those who used them back in the 1800's had the technology and ability to mount a scope on their lever guns we would be looking at a different history.

Love my Marlin 45 70 GBL. Shoots multiple different brands just fine.

Love it... 41 grains of 4198. And a 405 grain soft tip... mine will shoot 1 inch or less time after time..

Great show. Love the 45-70. Tried and true all American. I only have 3 different calibers for rifles .... 30-30 , 30-06 and 45-70. Thanks for ya hard work making these honest and accurate shows. And have a great day.

Love that .45/70! Mine is a New England Firearms Handi-Rifle. I handload mine with the 300 grain jhp for hunting rounds and when I reached 2000 FPS with my handloads, the groups just magically fell into a cloverleaf pattern and to me, it’s still a mild pleasant load to shoot. All you gotta do is shoot that big bore a few times and see how effective it is on game and you’ll be hooked!

The 250 grain Hornady and the fort Scott ones did the best. And that was some amazing shooting!

I have a Marlin 1895 CB and use the Fort Scott Munitions 45-70 300gr TUI. I have taken whitetail deer and black bear with that round, very impressed with the knock down power and wound channels.

I have a Marlin 450 and it is awesome. The 450 round will take higher pressures and makes for a little better ballistics. I pulled the bullets off the 325 Flex and replaced with 300 JSP and hard cast led. They really do the job.

Great show thanks my friend

WOW, that’s some awesome groups. I have that same rifle. I’ve never gotten groups that small, I’ve gotten some 1” groups with my handloads at 100 yards. Which is awesome for FULL POWER 350gr. loads. They kick 🦵 like a Kentucky Mule too.

I love the content. Keeps my attention no matter how long or short the video is

I baught my father in law the Henry 45-70. I gave him a primary arms red dot. Works like a champ with his old eyes

Had very similar results in my GBL with the Hornady. 325s and 250s had very similar POI.

Very cool. Love my Henry X 45-70. Love the Marlin as well.

I own 2 1895 rifles. I like both of them. The 1895 is a very good big game rifle. I would not hesitate to use it on any big game in North America. It can be loaded to be mild or wild. Very versatile cartridge. A reloaded can really take advantage of the options.

Thanks for the review. My Marlin seems to like the fusion. I have the 26” octagon barrel.

The hornady monoflex is the clear winner there

i love 45-70! i will have one someday! now you know what yours loves. Hope to see more 45-70 videos!

Thanks again WTW, my 45/70 is the same as yours. I’ve not shot it much the last year, just something special about this one. A great caliber tru the ages, good shooting and gods speed to the WTW FAMILY AND FANS. 👍🇺🇸

Henry 45-70 side gate H010G here... Scoped with the Leopold 1.5-4 VX Freedom but setting much lower on the gun with Weaver mounts instead. It likes the 325 FTX although learned real quick it was time to start reloading myself again due to the current cost/lack of ammo available in this area. I don't have a fireplace to display it over and bought it to use. ;)

Love to see some clay blocks and gallon jugs with the ft scott

In my experience, I've never seen good grouping results with the Fusions out of any gun in any caliber. My Marlin 336 35 Rem love the 200gr LeverEvolution FTX rounds

Great Video, probably need to shoot a 5 shot group for definitive results. The Fort Scott is impressive, but the first shot was a long way from the group. I love 45-70, just looking at the Ammo gives me a thrill :) and my Marlin 1895 SBL has to be my favorite rifle, I love the look and feel with the added bonus of knowing what 45-70 can do to anything on the receiving end.

Love my 45-70. Just remember that the length of the FTX brass is shorter than standard 45-70.

Love my 45/70 , best group i get out of mine was with federal power shock 300gr hollow points, at least with what i have tried . Cant wait to see how the new marlins do with ruger changing the barrels up to their barrel and rifling cut . I'll be in line to get one.

I took 2 deer in Minnesota this year with my Henry 45 -70 . One running at 80 yards and he only went 30 yards. Second one was at 90 yards and she dropped in her tracks. My bing bang loves the Hornady lever evolutions. Go figure. 😆

Thanks for spending the time and money to do this! I JUST got a Marlin 1895 in 45-70 last year. Sighted in at 50 yards and took a small buck last year with it. Passed on some better deer at 80 yards. Need to get mine cited in at 100!

I love my 45-70. Mine is a single shot h@r buffalo classic. Great video, keep it up!

Thank you for another informational video. Also, great shootn'. 🎯🎯🎯👍

I personally have had great luck with those evolution bullets in 30-30 That 250 grain load might do better on deer Enjoyed the video as always

Look's great Adam! Federal and Henry teamed up to make a new round about 2 year's ago called the hammer down. The lady from Gunscom recently took a Water Buffalo in afr

good ol 45-70, its still here and your testing it in 2021. Gas Checked cast or hard cast works well in the Marlin. soft not so much, my 45-70 has a micro groved barrel. I found hot loads break scopes. The bullet doesn't go far so a good pistol scope works. Great Video!

I'm with ya on the scope, I just like to mount them as close as possible to the bore. It looks like a scope on the carry handle of my old Colt AR 15 SP1. Way up there!!

I like the checkering design on your grip and forearm, “Beautiful” I agree the scope can’t be beat for accuracy long shots. My eyes too are not the greatest now. It’s like a blurry double looking through the semi Buckhorns although with up to 75 yard shots I can still hit bullseyes with the irons but anything out farther, I am considering putting a scope on mine.

Thanks for the great video!

I got to fire a 45/70 out of a trapper, several years ago..in a lever rifle. I love it..

I agree with you about the scopes on guns thing for sure...

Yes, I'm drooling over the brass. This is, hands down, my favorite ammo to load.

Pretty impressive groups on those last two, whotee. I thik you've found a couple of new, accurate hunting boolots...😁

WTW is your Marlin a microgroove barrel or is it one of the new ones with regular rifling? Mine is an older microgroove barrel and it shoots 330gr cast hollow points best.

Bought some of that fort Scott at a show early this year been loving it

Good job who tee ! I just bought that very same box of ammo , fort Scott 300 grain and shot my sbl in with them , ouch$$$$! Wherever I put the dot there was a large hole. Sometime fun like that comes with a cost. Keep up the good work.

Hey brother it's more so of a cold bore shot than a fouling shot. The temperature of the barrel effects the impact of the shot by how tight the barrel grabs the projectile and with hot and cold it it expands and contracts. So the longer you weight between shots the impact will be different. So when you stop between different ammo types and talk then fire one it will hit in a different spot than the next 2or3 that are going down a hot barrel. Same thing of you set And shoot 50 rounds your barrel will get really hot and your groups will open up. Love the videos keep up the great work man love it!

We need the top two in water jugs, gel block testing 🙂👍 oh big clay blocks.

Awesome caliber, awesome guns 💯

I have the marlin 444 model and it's the best brush gun I have. Good for bear hunting too

Excellent accuracy from that all copper bullet. I'm wondering if that all copper bullet will open up at 45-70 velocities? I've heard that the all copper bullets need more velocity to open like 2300 ft per second? It really seemed to like those 250 grainers too. It would be interesting to see what you could come up with if you were hand loading? I think you could probably get a sub moa from an excellent hunting bullet. I'm interested to see how the accuracy is on the new Ruger made Marlins as they have a hammer forged barrel. Thank you that was fun 👍

A 45-70 is a good gun for hunting

Nice shooting Sir. I loved the video, Thank You.👍👍👍👍👍👀😎

Those Fort Scott rounds did very well. The really impressive point of this post was your shot groups at 100 yards with a lever action 45-70 Govt rounds were no bigger that just under 3 inches and down to 5/8ths of an inch. Just wow!!!

The Hornaday 250gr. to me had the prettier grouping i wish you would have spent a 4th round like you did the fort scott ammo. But was a very helpful video keep it up, great job.

My Ruger #1 was a 1" shooter with the Winchester 300gr Super X. In regards to the Federal Fusion, i own a .308win and a 6.5 Creedmoor which are sighted in with this bullet as they both shoot groups into 1/2".

I have a 1895 JM. Marlin rifle. The rifle is my favorite! Great video 🦅🇺🇸

My 45-70 Stainless Steel Marlin with a Skinner peep sight is my Go To gun that I bought at a pawn shop about 7 years ago for $400!

Thanks for the info and i love 4570

Great video!

Make sure you use that limb saver buddy it won’t hurt near as much lol 😝

I appreciate your time and money you put into this video very much! My Marlin groups very good also. I will try the monoflex and see how it shoots. But I am looking for a serious load for bear and a heavier lead.

I love mine. They make an AR variant, the Christine.

My Marlin Stainless Steel Guide Gun will shoot the Hornady 325 Gr in less than 1inch at 100 yards. It has a Burris 2x7 Scout Scope on it.

That is astonishing how different brands of ammunition can be that far apart on the target! Some at the top ,some at the bottom and some in the middle! All I can say is ,I’ll be dogged!

I have one scoped and one with aperture sights. Love them both. Have taken a number of pigs with the open sight gun. Longest shot 125 yards. Have not taken game with the scoped one. My advice would be try to mount your scope lower on the gun if able. That is the perfect scope for that gun, for a conventional mount. Something about that micro grove rifling is finicky. If I recall hard cast bullets give best accuracy. There’s a good reason why Ruger ditched that type of rifling.

I also use and like the Winchester super x

I read about a world class hunter, can't remember his name. He was asked about being a good shot and he said, if you could hit 4 inch target at 100 yds with 4 rounds you were pretty good. This from a guy who hunted everything. I think I read about him in the Lee reloading manual.

Put a Picatinny rail with ghost rings with a scout scope and quick release rings u get the best of both worlds and put a bigger loophole on be happy when u have gloves on.

Which sequence did you shoot them? Was Force the first one? Reason I ask is it seems you had a first shot hit bullseye and the the group up/right. I often find that cold bore shot on 45/70 hits outside the “groups”, but it is the cold bore shot you use for hunting.

I've had a Marlin 1895 for several years.... gives me giggles every time I shoot it. I've never regretted buying it. I am thinking of a red dot vs scope because it's also my mid range defensive gun.

I shot a few whitetails with fusion .308. They are lethal from near and far. I've shot Lever Evolution in .444. They are also drop dead lethal.

Very nice WTW. Thx for the 411. By the way... What song playing at videos back side? I like it

Love the 45-70 just got a Henry and have been loading my own ammo , as the factory stuff is so expensive $40 + per 20. Haven’t tried groups yet just been running them over my chronograph got some mild and some nasty ones. I ordered some Skinner sights the semi buck horns are ok but my eyes aren’t what they used to be. I see the purpose of the scope but it just doesn’t look right on a lever gun and I don’t hunt so I’ll stick with something that looks a little more classic.

That new scope mount made by skyjacker lift kits?

Nice groups, loved the size of the hole on the target . That's one fat bullet .

I've been hunting with and reloading the 45-70 for 54+ years. A lot has changed in those years with bullet construction, powders, and primers. I hunt with a 2014 Marlin 1895 classic in 45-70 with a leupold 1x4 pig plex scope. My load from Barnes #3 is 250 grain copper HP, Accurate 1680, at 2,500 feet per second, and that is not the top load! It is point blank to 200 yards, my range is 200 yards. It makes things real dead fast. Like I said, lot has changed since I first fired the 45-70 in a Springfield trapdoor with 405 grain bullet at 1,500 feet per second.

That 5/8" group is awesome! You must have had company cause it looks like your on the toilet at the first and last of the vid,its cool Ive done weird stuff on the toilet too LOL!!!

Great vid Hootie! I get better than 1 minute of angle at 100y, spitting 410gr hornady sub-x out of my DPT suppressed Bergara BA13 (CVA Scout). Only thing is that for some reason, they're doing 1200fps out of my banger, so not subsonic. I've shot 2 Red deer in NZ with it, both under 100y, and it knocks them down HARD with a broadside shot in the engine room. Perfect mushrooming, and very little meat damage. I'm running a Ranger 1-8x24i with ballistic reticle, and I've sighted it in at 50y. Just happens that 2nd major mark below center crosshair puts it dead-on at 100y. Every once and a while, I recheck 100y zero with that holdover, (maybe half a dozen times so far), and every time I only fire once and absolute bullseye every time! I was actually shocked I could get such repeatable accuracy from a 45/70!

Thanks for the video. I would probably still use the Winchester just for the cost.

Excellent recording and I Agree! When I hunt, I always do an autopsy on any game, one of the reason, most people to not like to hunt with me. A GSW (Gun Shot Wound) is a GSW, and they always tell a story! Hopefully here in Oregon they won’t BAN my rifle as an Assault Lever Action! I have a similar rifle version that I bought in Alaska for Grizzly protection. Mine is SS, though draped in cloth, neoprene and tape camouflage. It also has factory porting. In Oregon I’ve used it to hunt black tail deer x 2 years. I got a really nice large 3x3 this year and my only complaint / concern, is that the round completely punches through the animal with little or no deformation. It’s fine with Excellent shot placement, but, as in humans, I prefer when the round deforms, has no core-jacket separation and dumps a large percent of its energy before Exiting the body. Where I’m hunting, I’m next to 300 acres of heavily forested, thick Oregon woods, owned by a strong ANTI-HUNTER, < 50 yards away. If the animal runs down the hill, across our shared private driveway and onto their property “Don’t even ask!” That happened last year. I used my R-P 405 gr Core-Lokt Flat-Nose round, sighted at 100 yds with 1.5” group. Shooting down a very steep hill with the animal angled up hill, my 1-RP round, punched through the scapula with a Perfect hole, took out the Thoracic Aorta, Thoracic Vertebrae, Spinal Cord and proceeded in a downward trajectory to Exit through a Rib. The Entrance Wound in the scapula was = Thoracic Vertebrae Exit Wound = Rib Exit Wound . The animal jumped and landed on its back, with legs in the air ➡️ DOA to X. Next year I’m going to switch to your top performer for Accuracy, since I think that’s the Most Important Factor (Shot Placement). I may experiment a little with bullet expansion though. This 405 gr R-P Flat-Nose would be a great round for Grizzly, or Buffalo, but not a large black tail deer. Dr. Hull,MD

I loved the video now we need to see the 45-70 blue-llet drop test what length was the barrel on your 1895 that low shot with the 325gr. Was odd because when I shot my 405gr.hand load it hit higher then the 300gr.and the 340gr.

Can you tell me a little about the scope/mount. It looks like what I need for on my 45/70. I have the longer octagon barrel. Thank you in advance for the info. I also have a Marlin 1895

Very awesome video just wondering if you did 45 70 with bond arms cyclops

I've seen brass for 45-70 and 450 Bushmaster for as much as new ammo. So I just got the ammo and will reload after shooting.

Wow. Try to find a 24" stainless barreled one back when marlin still made the barrels. They will clover leaf all day.

I love the 45 70 hope u have a good rest of ur week an weekend buddy. Stay warm.

I'm shooting super x at same distance and 🍀 every time good work considering

You didn’t answer my question in the last video, but answered it in this one. I was wondering why you didn’t like the performance of the Hornady FTX lever revolution and now I know why. I really appreciate that and I would love to get a similar 45-70. For hunting Ohio, and for hunting bear 🐻 and wild boar 🐗 wherever

I got the same results with the Hornady ammunition but I was switching to non lead last year. I picked up a box from Buffalo Boar and it shot better then the .250 grain Hornady.