.45 acp VS 10mm Ballistics Gel Test

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AZ Airgunner

AZ Airgunner

5 ай бұрын

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Astra A80 .45 acp
Hornady 230gr +P XTP .45 acp
Hornady 180gr XTP 10mm
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@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 5 ай бұрын
Very nice performance from both. The 10mm load did especially well in a somewhat shorter than average barrel.
@jimsmirh2406
@jimsmirh2406 4 ай бұрын
10mm did well but being that I am an old timer, I’m gonna have to with old faithful and say the .45 auto.
@twistofcain_666
@twistofcain_666 Ай бұрын
I never really got into 45acp ever since my dad would tell me about being on the Naval shooting team and finding the recoil almost unmanageable... so I went straight to 10mm to show him up. 😇
@NoMercy6266
@NoMercy6266 5 ай бұрын
10mm never disappoints. Thanks for all the awesome video’s!
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Thank you I appreciate u checkin em out!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
@ultravapeecig7308
@ultravapeecig7308 2 ай бұрын
Id like to see this comparison again 10mm vs .45 , but with similar weight bullets
@ChaotiX1
@ChaotiX1 4 ай бұрын
I've been thinking of switching from 9mm to 10mm and videos like yours are really sealing the deal for me, thanks a bunch!
@hithereson
@hithereson 2 ай бұрын
I love the 10mm but ammo selection is kinda junk where I’m at
@bobjones-bt9bh
@bobjones-bt9bh 5 ай бұрын
best ammo tester on YT....these tests really show, the organic gel helps- how the modern calibers of 10mm, 357Sig, and .40 really outshine the legacy auto calibers. The energies that the legacy calibers can produce are relatively anemic and this shows up in the gel regardless of the wonder bullets. An XTP is a really basic JHP but the 10mm throwing it into the gel at 560fpe shows you what energy does. A superduper HST pulling 370fpe would look the same as that .45 did with the same energy behind it. A deer shot with a 9mm will surely die...eventually...and it will run a lot further before doing so than one shot with .357, 10mm, 44mag, etc. The only difference between these scenarios is energy behind the bullet. The 9BPLE , win 127 +P+ and Corbon 115 +P really have not been surpassed in effectiveness for 9mm either. you can see it in the gel.
@mtower235
@mtower235 5 ай бұрын
That 10 short barrel did better than I expected
@theexisting1197
@theexisting1197 4 ай бұрын
I'll stick with the 1911 45 nice demo
@georgegravette1132
@georgegravette1132 4 ай бұрын
Excellent tests of each round. However, as comparisons go, I'd rather see a lighter and faster .45 ACP round, like 180 gr. +P, up against the 180 gr. 10mm., to compare wound channels and expansion.
@littleposerfish
@littleposerfish Ай бұрын
Still wouldn't compare too a 10mm +p would it?
@tobykornreich2719
@tobykornreich2719 22 күн бұрын
Full power 10mm is just 10mm. There is no plus “p” for 10.
@michaellavaughnrobinson
@michaellavaughnrobinson 3 ай бұрын
Came here afyer watching one of your .25 gel tests. Crazy how much more goes onnwith the bigger bores.
@danielreid3476
@danielreid3476 3 ай бұрын
Very impressive! Hornady jhp's typically don't expand that well, but those sure did!
@charlesphillips5906
@charlesphillips5906 5 ай бұрын
Love the short barrels!
@EphemeralThought
@EphemeralThought 4 ай бұрын
10mm is super versatile. Self-defense rounds huge damage. Solid (Flat Nose Jacketed) tremendous penetration for sturdier targets. My EDC is G29 w/ self-defense rounds. Two magazines on the belt. One penetrators, one additional self-defense.
@willmorris8966
@willmorris8966 5 ай бұрын
Imagine someone breaking in this man’s house then they hear “ az airgunner here”. Lol. Fresh BBQ
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
😄😂
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549
@jmichaelcarbonniere9549 5 ай бұрын
Good test as always! I do love my Glock 29 and it's big brother, the Glock 40. The 40 tames any and all ammo I've tried so far, even my most firebreathing reloads! 1184 isn't, I suppose, terrible for a short barreled 10mm, but it should be going a little faster, but as usual they aren't loaded to their potential. Then again, the little 29 (my EDC by the way) is a bit on the snappy side and requires a decent amout of practice to be useful. While I was a dyed-in-the-wool .45 guy for many, many years (over 50, I hate to admit) since my Tucson days (I kind of miss Tucson but it's impossible to get my wife to unass The State of Misery where I currently reside - there's actual *snow* on the ground right now, yuck!) I made the switch to 9mm and then ultimately to 10mm a couple of years ago and have never looked back. I do, however, use actual full power 10mm ammo, in the form of Underwood's version of the Lehigh Xtreme Defender 100 gr bullet, which leaves the barrel of my little Glock stepping very quickly indeed! These are currently discontinued by Lehigh but I have enough to keep me supplied for several years! The 115's work ok but the 29 loves those little 100 gr bullets and shoots them very accurately and to point of aim as well. Recoil is almost nil although they are loud. What's not to like? If I could only load them as fast, I'd be a happy camper but alas, they use powder that is unobtainium for us reloaders! Bummer! You can still get the the last few rounds from Underwood but you have to be a lot better off financially than I am, at nearly $2 per round! Seems to me they should be selling them much cheaper just to get rid of them but I guess they figure they're now some type of gold or something. Hrump, what do I know? Such is life! Cheers, jc
@johnw4999
@johnw4999 5 ай бұрын
Give the XTEN Comp a try. I have nearly 6k rds through my EDC XTEN, and just over 1k through my XTEN Comp I picked up and shot for the first time on Dec 10. The comp is my mildest shooting 10mm followed by my XTEN, M&P 2.0 Comp, 510/G20 about the same, 1911 10mm, and my 2.0 Compact jammomatic. The XTEN Comp is now my EDC followed closely by the XTEN - both carried AIWB. Underwood loads the XTP nicely.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 5 ай бұрын
The 45 did really well for what it is but it is not a fair fight compared to a 10mm. Really impressed with the 180 10mm. I was getting exactly the same velocity out my G29 some years ago when I tested it. 1180s. Great test & good results. Many thanks.
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Thanks you sir, always appreciate ya checkin em out!! Good to hear u were getting the same numbers. Glad they have stayed consistent throughout the years. I have some Underwood & Doubletap coming here soon. Should be fun, hopefully a lil spicier🌶. Thanks as always my friend!! Plenty comin😁.
@PaulybiGGballZ0820
@PaulybiGGballZ0820 2 ай бұрын
I sold my 10mm years ago.. regretted ever since, got the glock 29 gen 5 on order.
@TransformersHoarder
@TransformersHoarder 5 ай бұрын
Would’ve rather seen 45 Super VS 10mm personally. Both in lighter grains.
@StinkFingerr
@StinkFingerr 4 ай бұрын
Very Nice Job.
@anthonyfender72
@anthonyfender72 4 ай бұрын
Hornady 10MM are not fully loaded 10MM rounds. They are loaded like a 40 cal. Most companies do NOT load 10MM fully, most are loaded to 40 cal specs
@littleposerfish
@littleposerfish Ай бұрын
Your exactly right. Only underwood ammo truly loads the 10mm.
@tobykornreich2719
@tobykornreich2719 22 күн бұрын
And double tap, buffalobore, and grizzly ammunition. Grizzly 200gr being a favorite of mine.
@davecoffield7893
@davecoffield7893 2 ай бұрын
Not bad. But, I think the point of the 10mm case length is to optimize the projectile speed while getting good self defense penetration. A 135gr bullet loaded by Underwood or DoubleTap gets muzzle velocity up to 1650fps from a 5" barrel (essentially a .41 magnum/765fp impact energy), and 11" penetration. The temporary stretch cavity becomes quite dynamic, potentially rupturing organs, and flattening vascular tissue (sending femoral blood back to the brain and over-pressuring cerebral capillaries). When someone's trying to kill you, you aren't going to get the center-mass hit. You might get "A" hit, and you want that hit to disrupt as much as possible.
@rudytagala7076
@rudytagala7076 25 күн бұрын
Those checks for 'em brands/models of handguns must be very productive for the IDF man - but I like your bulky 0.357 up to 0.50 IMI Desert Eagle productions too! Hope your palm and fingers can handle 'em recoils!!! 😁
@willmorris8966
@willmorris8966 5 ай бұрын
YEE HEE 🍊. Good job AZ
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Thank you buddy!!
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 5 ай бұрын
Have you considered making a short review on that A80? I haven't seen one since the 80s. They are pretty much a Sig P220/226 clone. I haven't shot one. But I recall they had a decent smooth double action and nice light single action. Nostalgic.
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
I actually haven't, but now that u mention it, looks like I'm gonna to have to. I was thinking of doing a quick overview of all that I have here soon. Would be pretty fun, prolly a lil long winded but fun. It's not bad at all though, it's a lil tough to get used to but still very nice. I was surprised when he gave it to me. Like Xmas for sure!! Thanks as always my friend!! Plenty on the way😁.
@littleposerfish
@littleposerfish Ай бұрын
10mm is obviously dominant over 45. Specially if its a truly loaded too spec like underwood ammo does.
@TheRios7018
@TheRios7018 5 ай бұрын
Nice test bud👍🏼
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir!!
@mattspriggs5945
@mattspriggs5945 5 ай бұрын
I find it fascinating how similar these rounds can perform - from hard cast to the loads you tested. There's definitely overlap between the two.
@jacktrout5807
@jacktrout5807 4 ай бұрын
I dont see an overlap at all between the 2 the 10mm wound cavity was 3.5 inches the .45 was 2 inches. The 10mm in the shorter barrel expanded to a larger diameter and didn't over penetrate. This pretty much negates any precieved advantages of the .45acp vs the 10mm the usual arguments are bore diameter and over penetration. The .45 performed well enough but not anywhere near the performance of the 10mm from what we seen here and I'd wager with a longer barrel the 10mm round would be even more devastating. Nothing wrong with the .45 especially for 2 legged critters buts it's just not the 10mm in any way. ( except maybe some cheap loaded down 10mm to 40s$w specs).
@mattspriggs5945
@mattspriggs5945 4 ай бұрын
@@jacktrout5807 well, I've tested the 2 not less than a hundred times. Once you get into hard cast and heavy loads, you start seeing some interesting things as they share similarities in sectional density, momentum, TKO etc. I've witnessed both pass through 10, 1 gallon water jugs with ease. I've seen them do identical damage to cinder blocks and I've seen them both expand incredibly, but the 45 is the only one I've seen get larger than a quarter. So, to me , there is a lot of overlap depending on the actual loadings.
@jacktrout5807
@jacktrout5807 4 ай бұрын
@@mattspriggs5945 well yeah if your handloading you could certainly create overlap and if you have a bias ? I have even watched Manu 10mm vs 45 super and the 10mm still comes out on top. If all things being equal ( as reasonable) barrel length, projectile type, same brand of factory loaded ammo etc. The 10mm walks away from 45acp. It's just physics just like 10mm is not 41mag, or 44mag, but .357 mag? Now there is some overlap between .357mag and 10mm. Major differences being 6 rounds vs 15 rounds and preferred platform.
@mattspriggs5945
@mattspriggs5945 4 ай бұрын
@@jacktrout5807 no bias here as I own several of both and hand loading isn't required. Perhaps you can share your first hand experience with the two. Here's someone else who draws similar conclusions to mine... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n6ibncem2bzRdnU.htmlsi=TqoL1N3mnOl_cp_R
@zacharymorris9917
@zacharymorris9917 2 ай бұрын
​@mattspriggs5945 10 gallon water jugs....😂😂😂😂😂😂 Something that magnum FMJ rifle rounds can't do. Tell us more about your acid trips.
@wwb7091
@wwb7091 4 ай бұрын
Just curious.... did you weigh the bullets after the test to see what percent of retained weight each had?
@angrysheepdog9744
@angrysheepdog9744 5 ай бұрын
.45 acp “hydrostatic shock? Never heard of it”. Can’t argue with a cannonball hurled at 850fps still gets the job done. Question AZA: Are you planning on going deeper to explore 1-shot combinations in the subcompact class? I’m itching to know if that 450-500ft/lb can be achieved with 115gr and 68-90gr XD in +P+. Definitely attainable in 357S…comparable to a 2-3” magnum.
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Yessir I sure am. It's just tough sometimes testing and getting everything that ppl want to see. Our channel is still pretty small and these test get pretty expensive after a while, specially when it all comes out of pocket. I'm trying though bro. I still have a bunch of stuff to order and get tested. U always have great suggestions and ideas though. Thanks as always for the support here on the channel my friend, I appreciate ya!! Plenty on the way😁.
@angrysheepdog9744
@angrysheepdog9744 5 ай бұрын
@@AzAirgunner. No worries brother, I appreciate all that you do. I don't see a patreon...happy to help finance your passion.
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate all u guys and the interactions. I really enjoy it and have a lot of fun. No need for it but is always appreciated, I actually don't have a patreon but always leave my PayPal, Cashapp and email in the descriptions if anyone ever wants to help out. I also have a membership option for the channel now too, so we're gettin there. Thanks as always brotha!!
@jpg_sig10
@jpg_sig10 4 ай бұрын
Another good video. Thank you. 10mm Auto rules. Good things! 👍
@MrKingbank01
@MrKingbank01 4 ай бұрын
damn. honestly if i take on one more new caliber im gonna have to buy some shit and figure out how to reload at this point. that 10 is impressive.
@bdr32965
@bdr32965 5 ай бұрын
That's the beauty of 10mm because it likes to expand rapidly and still penetrate while almost tearing itself apart as it does so. But when it comes to .45 AARP, ooops I meant to say .45 ACP short, fat and slow is still an impressive round. That's because .45 ACP is a sledgehammer of a round, it hits hard, dumps a bunch of kinetic energy right away and can get the job done.
@DawonneJones
@DawonneJones 5 ай бұрын
love both some reason i jusy favor 45 a lil more it blows huge holes in whatever it hits and 45 super is just as powerful as 10mm and blows bigger holes
@sparky_-mf2cs
@sparky_-mf2cs 5 ай бұрын
Joe biden said the 9mm blows out lungs...you be the judge ..
@joeyphillips1181
@joeyphillips1181 5 ай бұрын
45 ACP isn't really a short barrel caliber but those XTP's always do good if they get enough velocity
@8oh8boyalldayeveryday
@8oh8boyalldayeveryday 5 ай бұрын
Very nice. 29 degree weather for a Glock 29
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Heck yeah💪!! Didn't even think bout it like that.. makes it even cooler and all worth it now lol. Thanks for checkin it out, I appreciate ya!!
@bobjones-bt9bh
@bobjones-bt9bh 5 ай бұрын
369fpe looks pretty much the same in all calibers...560 does too. Energy is what matters.
@zacharymorris9917
@zacharymorris9917 2 ай бұрын
Not if you ask the 45 bros
@abrahamhulljr.8035
@abrahamhulljr.8035 24 күн бұрын
You must have flipped the gel at some point off the camera. Because at the 2:12 times, the 45acp shot was just left of center, and when you started looking at the 10mm shot, it was left of center, and the 45acp was on the right. The fact that the 45 penetrated deep to me makes these about equal to me. I thought initially with the extra velocity of the 10mm, it would have penetrated deeper than 45acp
@stephenhaley4324
@stephenhaley4324 3 ай бұрын
It appeared that the 45 ACP was shot on the left side of the gel in the begining of the video. Then the 10mm was shot on the right hand side of the gel. You measured the 45 on the left hand side but when you went to measure the 10mm you also measured on the lefh hand side. Did you flip the gel or turn it around or am I just an old man with poor eyes.
@jeffreygoss8109
@jeffreygoss8109 4 ай бұрын
What did your clothes barrier consist of?
@nikos6220
@nikos6220 5 ай бұрын
Looks almost the same 😂. Kidding aside, the 10mm only has 3 ft-lb more recoil energy than the 45 ACP. Thought it would be more, but the 230 is a recoil hog
@adammitchell0
@adammitchell0 5 ай бұрын
Have you ever tested 45 hornady critical duty 220 +p? It seams to be a good round in 45
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
No sir not yet, definitely on the list though. I have so much to get to still🥵. Thank you for checkin this one out!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
@cesarrodriguez3369
@cesarrodriguez3369 25 күн бұрын
.45 for the hood and 10 mil for the woods.
@thokozanimaphalala7336
@thokozanimaphalala7336 2 ай бұрын
It would have been more of a fair comparison if he uesd 185 grain bullet in 45 because lighter bullet travel faster. 10mm has speed advantage because of a lighter bullet. Othewise it's a nice video.
@TrulyUnfortunate
@TrulyUnfortunate 4 ай бұрын
I'd like to see how the auto compares to my S&W 10mm. thats been modified to accept 10mm. Magnum.
@jacktrout5807
@jacktrout5807 4 ай бұрын
I have a ruger gp 100 converted to 10mm magnum! 😂 I want to gel test it so bad.
@Firewlkre
@Firewlkre 14 күн бұрын
Just a caution about accidently loading a 10mm round into a .45acp handgun,they are very similar in height and diameter and caution is advised.
@45.Slanging
@45.Slanging 5 ай бұрын
U gotta get a G21/30 and put the 45super up against 10mm.
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
That would be fun.
@charlesphillips5906
@charlesphillips5906 5 ай бұрын
Seems like most of the time the wound cavity measures larger from the side than from the top. Wonder why that is?
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Ur right. I'm thinking because there is less material up an down compared to left or right, so the bullet path/stretch is taking and stretching the path of least resistance more and increasing the stretch up and down. Idk though🤷‍♂️. Sounded good in my head😄.
@chriss2283
@chriss2283 4 ай бұрын
Well YT instadeletes my comment yet again. Gotta loving having truth speak denied. I've seen hotter 10mm loads pass through both blocks from 4.5 and 5.6 barrels. Nice for a short barrel though. But when it comes down to it 10mm is superior in the end. Comairing subsonic to supersonic ammo isn't fair. 😅
@zacharymorris9917
@zacharymorris9917 2 ай бұрын
45 bros: butt muh stoppin paarr 😂
@NixDeGraves8888
@NixDeGraves8888 4 күн бұрын
Get a gf, you wont be so bitter
@zacharymorris9917
@zacharymorris9917 4 күн бұрын
@@NixDeGraves8888 I'm guessing you thought that comment was witty and comedic. 😬
@69CamaroSS
@69CamaroSS 4 ай бұрын
Not.even.CLOSE.BUD!!!!
@okramw1
@okramw1 Ай бұрын
Interesting comparison 🤔 But the design outcomes R different. The 45 is designed to knock a man down, & the 10 is designed to knock a man down in body armor. It's like comparing a 357 to the 44 🤓 The real comparison should be what R U looking to accomplish, & how capable R U at controlling a Hand Canon 🤪 I have both, & would definitely want the Big Boy when hunting or in the great outdoors. If I'm going to a place where I might encounter a fire fight...I'll go someplace else 🙂 I always want to be capable of self defense, & be comfortable enough. Winter I pack heavier, & summer I'll downsize. Common sense 🤠
@scottythebody0811
@scottythebody0811 5 ай бұрын
Is a 10mm vs 357 Sig test in the future??
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
Yessir, will be the next test. Sunday😁👍.
@scottythebody0811
@scottythebody0811 5 ай бұрын
@@AzAirgunner. Woo hoo! I love your content.
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
@@scottythebody0811 Thank you brotha, I really do appreciate that a lot. Glad u enjoy the channel!! I have to much fun out there making these videos lol. Plenty on the way my friend😁👍. Thanks again!!
@naposthecavalierkingcharles
@naposthecavalierkingcharles 5 ай бұрын
No contest.
@mr.diversity2267
@mr.diversity2267 Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t the comparison be more fair if U used .45 acp 185 grain instead of 230 grain? These vids are rarely fair.
@arthurdirindinjr1792
@arthurdirindinjr1792 4 ай бұрын
It do not feel it is at all a relevant test for xVSx caliber if it is maximum terminal performance of two calibers if you insist on using what shorter than optimal barrel lengths for both Both the 45acp and 10mm were originally designed to be fired from 5" barrels and for the 10mm 6" is ideal Under no circumstances whatsoever would I ever purchase a 10mm HG with any barrel length under 5" preferably 6"
@jamespilbeam209
@jamespilbeam209 5 ай бұрын
Wow, nice 9mm performance from the lightweight 10 mm!😂
@rsbreeze
@rsbreeze 5 ай бұрын
10mm or no mm!
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
💪💯
@ihorkrusynskyi6622
@ihorkrusynskyi6622 3 ай бұрын
🇺🇦👍
@PaulybiGGballZ0820
@PaulybiGGballZ0820 2 ай бұрын
10mm is tbe best cartridge for carry..
@kriswittlieff9586
@kriswittlieff9586 Ай бұрын
decent vidio, either one is a good choice. Um consider cleaning up......your range is a pig sty.....
@ThorrRA3793
@ThorrRA3793 5 ай бұрын
Dumb test if you're testing 10 mm get full power 10 mil ammo
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
This is the first one I've done with the G29. I have about 20 different rounds I'm going to test. But there's plenty of other channels out there to watch. No need to be negative. Maybe you can tests them on your channel.. Thanks for watchin!!
@SwampOperator
@SwampOperator 5 ай бұрын
Dumb take.. he showed the ammo immediately. You should have seen your way out then.. but you didn't. Bye karen
@bobbywesley800
@bobbywesley800 5 ай бұрын
10mm whooped 45acp.
@AzAirgunner.
@AzAirgunner. 5 ай бұрын
💪💯
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