We want daily videos of charles

FYI: The Morgan and Morgan ad has you talking over your own voice. It was kind of hard to understand what you were trying to say at the end, but I get the picture and just wanted to let you know 👍🏽

If I supplied some home roled 223 rounds, would test them in a ballistics dummy?

Did you just turn one head into two? I never knew you could do that It’s like math didn’t math One head = Two heads

How effective is 5.7x28mm and compare it to 5.56x45mm

dude thank you. as a mechanic i laughed soo hard i lost my 10mm

😂😂😂

Brilliant 😂

Me too bro

😂. And the comment of the day award goes to, YOU!😂🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

always made sense

Funny, just finished playing fallout 4 yesterday Big bugs never stood a chance 😂

agreed, filthy ghouls

Honestly would love to have a functional model of the 10mm handgun from Fallout. It’s a fun over-designed model.

​@@Mcaarkgood luck finding an holster for that!

Yep, dem's FBI loads. FBI got 10mm loaded so underpowered that Smith & Wesson just went to Winchester to have the cartridge brass shortened and .40S&W was born from that.

CCI blazer sucks ass too. Double tap, Buffalo bore, and underwood are the only ones who load 10mm as God intended.

I load 10mm and I like them hot!

Sig makes a respectable 10 mm round if you’re willing to pay an arm and a leg to get them

@@user-qo3yy9nv1uliberty civil defense is pretty sweet too. 60 grain hollow point going 2400fps out a 5 inch barrel

totally happened

Get out

@@CamelSmokes23 make me 😂

😂😂😂

😂🤣

That’s what she said! 😅

That and the lil stream of beautiful droplets by the first 10mm shot. *chef’s kiss

That was hilarious!! Kind of like something you'd expect from a cartoon!

That probably would never happen again. Mike wasted his one change at winning the lottery.

Luck...

*Boop*

A 45 ACP "Bear Load" has capacity of being significantly more capable than a 10mm Auto "Bear Load." Greater amount of bullet weight for similar velocities, larger meplat, heavier bullet need not be seated deeper with attendant over-pressure concerns.

@@LibertysetsquareJackfor big browns , the faster speed of the 10mm , with similar bullet size is always going to equate to better penetration . There’s been so many tests done , and all say the same - 10mm is a better bear defense round than .45

@@LibertysetsquareJackalso will add underwood offers a 200gr bear defense round for both calibers . 10mm has significant more velocity and muzzle energy . I’m guessing you’re referring to someone’s “custom” bear load , that’s probably over pressured and possibly beyond safe specs . We’re talking about a less aerodynamic projectile in the same weight class but is 5.06 mm wider . Under2/10 of an inch but is also a much different shape and is seated completely different . The misconception here is that the 45 is gonna leave a larger wound channel . It will also under penetrate and with a 1200 lb apex predator , if it expands early “not enough speed so more often than not that’s the case “ , you’ll be on the menu for North Americas deadliest animal .

@@dennismurray4088 It's not about leaving a bigger wound channel, but about the tendency of the bullet to overturn itself, be deflected, and lose momentum. All three contribute to diminished penetration. Velocity is only one factor in penetration, and, especially at practical handgun velocities, is largely insignificant. In other words, we aren't talking the difference between 800 fps and 2,300 fps, pistol and rifle, respectively, or between a 600 fps pistol round and a 1,300 fps pistol round. When we're talking between, say, 1,150 fps for one pistol round, and 950 fps for another pistol round, both velocities factor essentially identically when it comes to penetrative potential into animals. What is more significant are the other factors aforementioned: which bullet will have a greater tendency to overturn itself, have less momentum, and be deflected from striking differential material in the body, e.g. glancing on a bone. With those three considerations, bullets with larger meplats, sharper meplats, more "square" bullet profile (ogive), are "over square" in weight:caliber ratio, and just weigh more overall, will tend to penetrate both 1) more deeply initially, and 2) be less likely to deflect and/or tumble, i.e. maintain a more straight terminal path, which means deeper penetration over time within the animal. If favorable characteristics of pistol bullet P are found over another, Q, in these areas, P will have deeper and more consistent penetration, even if Q is moving up to several hundred feet-per-second faster. That's why the old timers, such as John Pondoro Taylor, accounted for caliber when evaluating cartridges for animals, in addition to bullet weight and velocity. Muzzle energy equations only take bullet weight and velocity into factor, and are then heavily biased towards velocity, because the equation has the square of such. This makes cartridges such as 10mm Auto look superior to others, but without context and the actual terminal behavior of the bullet. So take two premier "dangerous game" loads from the same manufacturer, Buffalo Bore, as example: 10mm Auto "Heavy 10mm Outdoorsman," and the 45 ACP "Heavy 45 +P Outdoorsman." In terms of muzzle energy, the 10mm Auto loading sees a 220 grain bullet developing 1,175 fps out of a Colt Delta Elite with a 5" barrel, yielding ~674 ft./lbs. The 45 ACP load sees a 255 grain bullet developing 960 fps out of a Colt Gold Cup with a 5" barrel, yielding ~522 ft./lbs. So the 10mm Auto loading is 152 ft./lbs., or just over 29%, more powerful. Looking to the Taylor Knockout factor (TKO) however, we get different evaluation. TKO is [bullet weight in grains × velocity × caliber] divided by 7,000. This yields a TKO of 14.77 for the 10mm Auto load, but 15.81 for the 45 ACP. The 45 in this equation is a clear and entire ordinal higher. Comparisons only get more lopsided when evaluating the very high velocity 10mm Auto cartridges many people posture as specifically for large animal defense, such as those using the solid copper (SC) or "mono metal" bullets. The high velocities are obtained with very light bullets, such as a 115 grain SC bullet going 1,700 fps. That yields an impressive 738 ft./lbs. However, that's only 11.17 on the TKO scale, far less than the 15 to 16 of 45 loads. Even old-school 45 ACP from 1905 (230 grains at 830 fps) yields a TKO of 12.33. Again, the reason weight, caliber and weight:caliber were accounted in the old days, and still should be today, is because bullets can do things that negate penetration, irrespective of relatively higher velocity. One of those things is the tendency for the rear of the bullet to "overtake" the front of the bullet, particularly if the bullet is heavier at the base, resulting in tumbling or at least veering from a straight path, both of which cut penetration depth. Another is deflection, which is where large meplat bullets and "square" ("short and fat") have an advantage over round nose and smaller meplat bullets, or bullets that are relatively "under square" ("skinnier"). Ironically enough, higher velocities can also exacerbate these tendencies, such as producing tumbling earlier or deflecting to a larger proportion of vector. Autoloading pistols are already at a disadvantage relative to revolvers in these regards because cartridge OAL must necessarily be shorter per given caliber, dictated by magazine dimensions and action lengths. Autoloaders must also reliably feed over a ramp of some type, and headspace differently than revolvers, meaning that bullet profiles are accordingly less able to be truncated, have less sharp meplats, and must taper sharper from base to nose, more akin to a RN, as opposed to a true SWC or FP profile. The advantage of something such as 45 ACP versus 10mm Auto, is that, within these and other limitations of the autoloading design, the 45 can have a relatively large meplat, less taper to the profile, and be heavier for caliber at acceptable pressures, relative to the 10mm, because the 45 ACP cartridge is designed to sit heavier bullets at lower pressures and is a clear five (5) calibers bigger, meaning larger diameter and ~ 27% greater circular area, yet is not considerably longer. So a heavier, broader, "over square" bullet at functionally similar (i.e. adequate) velocities, and with more meplat and ogive potential. Again, not as much potential in absolute terms as a cartridge designed for a revolver or lever action, but relatively speaking, as an autoloading pistol cartridge, more than the 10mm Auto. And the overall dimension of the pistol is not too disimilar either. It's not like we're talking about a .357 Desert Eagle or something. A Glock 21 still has 13+1 capacity as standard, for example, and with a "normal" sized frame. So I think the mystical or magical aura surrounding 10mm Auto pistols is overblown. Regardless, you went on in your comment to talk about expansion, and in the context of '1,200 pound apex predators.' Really though, it is kinda silly to be talking about bullet expansion potential from pistols, especially from autoloader pistol cartridges, and within the context of taking on large animals, let alone those c. 1,200 pounds. It is going to require several feet worth of straight-line penetration to serve as defense against such animals, and at pistol velocities especially, this means expanding bullets are not ideal at all. Bullets should be made for such purposes so as to have minimal deformation, and maximum weight for caliber at an adequate velocity. A full powered rifle or a shotgun with slugs is really what is in order for such situations, and the pistol is a sidearm. The danger with 10mm Auto pistols is that people are often treating them as a sort of primary weapon against large, dangerous animals, with magical properties. The mono-metal bullets for 10mm Auto in particular seem to have magical qualities ascribed to them, by virtue of being shot out of 10mm Auto pistols, "because velocity and muzzle energy." The idea seems to be that they combine hard bullet material and high velocity, for penetration, with "expansion"-esque terminal performance because of "fluid energy transfer" or whatever, from the fluted design. In reality, these bullets attain higher velocities with the trade off of very light bullet weight, i.e. 115 to 135 grains. On the other side of the coin, the heavier mono-metal bullets move much slower, e.g. a 190 grain 10mm Auto mono-metal is going to be going only 1,100 fps out of a typical (4.5/4.6") barrel, not 1,400, or 1,500, or 1,600+ fps like people want to think. The mono-metals actually will develop less velocity per a given weight because they must be seated deeper relative to a lead bullet (lead is more dense) to stay within OAL (which gets back to the limitations with autoloaders), which is largely why the very fast mono-metals in 10mm Auto are so small (c. 120 grains). Anyway, in both cases, whether tiny and fast or "heavy" (i.e. still light in real terms) and much slower, it apparently escapes people's attention that the "fluid transfer mechanism" is also going to impart force onto the bullet. In other words, there is reaction to every action: people are so in awe of the idea of the fluted bullet "transferring energy into the surrounding tissue" that they forget that the bullet is having a resultant force acting on it too. There is no such thing as free energy. In simple terms, it means the bullet is bleeding out energy and, thus, penetration potential once inside the animal. To get a given mono-metal-fluted to penetrate deeply, velocity must indeed be very high. But again, given the inherent limitations of the autoloading pistol cartridge dimension, that means very light bullets, which are then marginal in terms of all the other factors mentioned so far. So what exactly is all the excitement about? Beats me. I guess if such a thing as a magical bullet existed, I'd be excited to hear of it too; but in terms of actual physics, there is a reason that "magic bullets" are called such: because they exist in a fanciful sense, not in reality. Come to think of it, that's probably why the manufacturers refer to such bullets as "Fluid Transfer Monolithic." If they called it "Energy Transfer Monolithic," then every Good Ol Boy would be saying, "wait uh min'uht...if energy is bein' transferred out, don't that mean the boolit is losin' a lot uh energy in dat critter? Penetration gonna be shallow." Lol, yes.

I'm one of those guys who believe the 45 (pound-for-pound) is a better cartridge as you have explained in detail. I have always believed too the 10mm has been over-hyped for marketing purposes and the FBI had it right all along.@@LibertysetsquareJack

Now this is exactly what tf we need!!!!

Yes

They don’t do anything against anything. Paul Harrell has a video on this it took like 30+ layers to do anything or something like that

Were there any actual effect everyone would be wearing layers of winter clothes.

NYPD has entered the chat. According to their "experts" 9mm was defeated by a Carhartt jacket. In reality... it was more than likely trash marksmanship and 15 pound triggers.

Have you seen that man's paws? 10mm frames might be the only thing he can even tell is there! Haha

​@@zacharyohare2118i also have a 10mm and huge hands, i shoot it so well people think its 9mm😂

I still think Jerry Miculek is more impressive controlling the .44 magnum.

@@LTVoyager That man is the gun

Hockok uses bullshit federal American Eagle ammunition, it's nowhere near full power.

What recoil and mag springs?

​​@@Hypno_Llama For some reason S&W put a 17-ish pound recoil spring which is too light and what ends up happening is the slide out runs the spring in the magazine causing failure to feed malfunctions. So the best way to fix it is to get a new recoil spring, usually a 22 or 24 pound spring to slow the slide down and replace the magazine spring to make sure the round is picked up and fed in the proper location and time. This issue has come up in about 3/4 of the produced M&Ps. I'm one of the lucky 1/4 that didn't have the issue. Wolf springs have great after market springs.

Just got one literally yesterday.. same one as you!! M2.0 10mm... beast of a gun!!

.50 cal: What organs?

105mm howitzer: can't reduce anything to beans if there's nothing left to reduce :>

🤣

Is that like killing the body and the supposedly eternal soul? Or does it sanctify the damned and deal extra hit points to the flesh?

+100 holy damage + 10 accuracy.

@@mattmarzula automatically exorcists demons and burns the souls of the wicked.

@@mattmarzula It deals bonus damage vs undead. It can also be used to remove the cursed status effect from teammates in a pinch, though at the cost of physical damage.

I started looking through the comments just to see if anybody was talking about that lmao

Seen it happen in a couple vids, I think Kentucky Ballistics maybe caught a couple of those. One of my favorites is when it exits the block with a little puff of smoke and they add a fart sound. I'm pushing 50, and I don't care, that's always going to be funny.

​@alienspacebones agreed. I'd laugh too. Now I feel the need to find that video. 😊

Slowmo guys and kentucky balistics caught it in slow mo

If you’ve never seen that happen, then you haven’t seen that many gun videos. I have seen it several times

There's a pretty good video from 13yrs ago where a guy used pork ribs, a cow's heart and Jello to demonstrate what a Double Tap 135gr does to cardiac tissue. You should be able to find it with 10mm vs Cow's Heart here on YT.

That's what she said

Paul Harrell demonstrated 10mm damage to his "meat target"

Right! I always wondered why it was so unimpressive. My opinions changed

@@Rafael_Rare you ok

As a hunting sidearm, it makes a ton of sense if it's loaded to the potential of 10MM. But for people carrying as personal defense in the cities and suburbs, it's just asking for over penetration trouble. 9mm is enough for anything on two legs not wearing body armor, and by that point you'd need a rifle anyway. Looking at the way that 135 grain performed, it looks almost identical to 45 Super in ballistics gel - dumping a massive amount of energy and stopping in the first 8 inches. 45 Super is a really bizarre cartridge, but I'd rather have that than 10MM for those effects.

9mm in aprticular is known for overpenetration. this is one of the reasons the FBI came out with .40@@haroldfarquad6886

People always give me shit for carrying 10mm or 45 Super.. They still swear that its been proven over & over how 9mm is FAR Superior to both & that the FBI has proved this countless times...

@@haroldfarquad6886Did you even watch the video? Both 135 grain bullets didn’t over penetrate. You 9mm zealots are on life support levels of cope.

​@haroldfarquad6886 over penetration trouble? Considering even with trained shooters most 60% or more of handgun rounds fired in a shootout miss entirely. Over penetration is the least of your concerns when there is loose rounds zipping through the air.

Exactly it's why I use federal hst 200gr it is 18: penatratuon massive expansion

Metalurgy may be slightly different also for the 10mm so as to expand slower for the increased energy.

Hot SIG JHPs for me!

Same... Now i am shopping for one. Thinking the Sig 10mm

​@@DurzaHDSig.. lolol

Everyone always freaks out about overpenetration, but I’ve yet to see a confirmed account of a civilian shooting someone in self defense and having overpenetration hurt an innocent. It just doesn’t happen.

​@alphazuluz someone in my unit hit their neighbor with a 9mm while cleaning her gun and that got on the news. 🤷

@@DurzaHD Springfield does a compact 3.8" version, meant for CCW, that runs an 11+1 mag by default, but also fits 15+1 mags that have a sleeve at the base to extend the grip. I've heard very good things about it.

😅 there 9mm puch out 3a too

That Liberty ammo doesn't disappoint. It's been my carry round for over 4 years. In most any caliber, it's hard to argue with light and fast for carrying on your hip, but then those terminal ballistics are insane.

I know I‘ve seen it elsewhere, but it would be fun to see ghat Liberty ammo tested on this channel.

Liberty civil defense is great I keep a couple mags and a box in my bucket

60 grain 10 mm is insane. It can go up to 200 on the subsonic end

You sound like a fancy gentleman

Mine has 16 rd mags

Birdshot is pretty good against drones.

you got it

​@@GarandThumbwaiting for the drone vs steel buckshot vid

@@GarandThumb Can you bring the Kentucky rifle back? That thing was sick!

Take a look at loads from ballistic Machinest.

I’m close at 33 years enjoying the 10mm, lol. There’s a video of the 140 XP punching through thin armored glass capable of stopping other handgun cartridges.

That’s great Don but I still haven’t heard back from you about my Miami Vice reboot idea. In this series you and Tubbs not only reside at Geriatric Acres but you’re fighting the out of control crime like speeding golf carts, residents not picking up after their dogs and residents showing up after 5pm at Denny’s and still demanding the early bird special. Get back to me I think we have a winner!

.40 of an inch for .40 of a century!

​@@highdesertutahLMAO I'm dying at this 😂

I carry the 155ex defender in dw specialist or 6” trp…I’m the 10mm guy they make fun of till the 135s@1550 come out…then everyone wants to shoot one…big 200xtp max pressure where you’ll find recoil…way more than 180s and below….lemme talk to ya!..👊🏻

The Danish police in Greenland carry the G20. But manly because of polar bears.

I carry a 10

I love my G20, mag extension to carry 20 rounds​@@Gieszkanne

I don't think hollow points are the most effective round for bear/moose defense though, is it?

Mostly for 4 legs, too much for 2 legs

Yeah it would if only pistols chambered in 10 didn't look like bricks

@@mariovillicana6290 Mausoleums are built of bricks so what’s one more to a bad guy?

Agreed.

​@@mariovillicana6290This thread isnt about looks.

Glocks look great and plenty of 10mm Glocks. Otoh, 9mm works fine for humans for a summer gun. .40 is good for winter. 10mm is good for bears 👍 Even .380 works if you’re using Defiant TCX, Underwood Sku 152 90 gr jhp +p, or Underwood 68 or 90 gr +p extreme defender. Bonus points if you’re using a 3.5” or longer barrel. .380 is absolutely great in those situations and has less recoil 👍 9mm is fine with many different ammos such as HST (buy it cheap in bulk, do not pay 2$ per round from Federal or big companies) or if you’re willing to pay for the best, also TCX. If you want the best for .40, 135 gr JHP from Underwood (600 foot pounds energy, .357 sig and 10mm level energy) or Hornady Critical Defense, or HST. In that order. Critical defense is bad for .380 and only marginally decent for 9mm. But critical defense is absolutely beastly in .40 S&W.

This is a problem I've noticed with 7.62 Nagant aswell, with people are calling it anemic (atleast compared to 9mm). The issue there however is that they're using underloaded target shooting rounds.

There is one 9mm cartridge that bests the 10mm, the 9x25 Dillon Underwood 125gr, 1,700fps, 802ft.lbs or 90gr, 2,000fps, 799ft.lbs. Even Underwood's 10mm loads are not that spicy. The bullet diameter matters less than what the bullet does inside the body when it hits watery tissue, most people die of internal bleeding and tissue destruction not exsanguinating through the hole in the skin i.e. caliber does not matter as much as velocity, energy, bullet construction, and did the bullet behave as expected: expand, plug with clothing, disintegrate, pass through w/o expansion, fragment by design (most handgun rounds are not supposed to fragment that was an improper bullet being used in a cartridge with too high a velocity and the bullet disintegrated).

Id been asking him to do this video for about a month and he did not disappoint

It could have been the best, but it lacked Charlie.

Go Sox! But yeah I agree. Some of the best content on youtube

Church in the morning, watching Mike with lunch. It's a good day.

What about Jesus?

@@PolishBigfootCircle11 who ?

How in the whole ass have i never noticed they drop on Sundays? Lmao. I am not a smart man.

I visited my Daughter in 2019 when she was stationed in Ak. I saw too many people with 10MM chest rigs to count. My Son in Law immediately bought a Glock 10mm when they got there. Overwhelmingly BIG Revolvers (44mag) are still the standard but 10mm were very common from what I was able to observe of folks open carrying just walking around town, going to the store etc.

There are still a few factory loadings that meet or exceed the original Norma spec. Double tap, Buffalo Bore, and Underwood all do. Sposedly the resurgence of 10mm has caused some of the more mainstream manufacturers to up the 10mm into its intended form. Really to get most out of 10mm you need to hand load. 1400fps at 180 grain 🤯 is completely achievable.

10mm was never between 41 and 44mag. It was the 41mag Winchester silvertip that the 10mm was around the same power as. The 41mag silver tip was extremely watered down. 10mm can't get above 800foot lbs in a handgun. 41 mag can get to 1200. You need 460rowland to get to where 41mag is.

@@Guitarsgunsandghostsliberty civil defense 10mm is pushing 780 ft lbs, not quite 800 but damn close for a semi auto with 15+1 capacity.

@colestahl1265 i didn't say it wasn't good. I have 2 10mms. 10mm just never was between 41 and 44mag. Its closer to 357mag

Mitchalvin nails 10mm to the tee… most don’t know Jack about 10mm and only know the OTC FBI lite that yes, is not much more than .40, however! True 10mm loads like Underwood, Buffalo Bore, Double Tab, and Sig Sauer, make full potential loads, which is what I shoot in my G-20😎👍🏽

But there's 9 Largo and .30 Carbine.

@@spacewater7 too bad almost nobody makes guns for those anymore, and for 9 mm largo specifically almost nobody makes ammo for... 30 carbine at least is still made thanks to the popularity of the m1 carbine. with the popularity of PCC's over the past 10ish years i am kinda sad more in 30 carbine haven't been made

Wouldn't 5.7 be closer to a PCC rifle round?

Start reloading your own ammo. Look at Dillion's equipment.

​@cokiea57 No do some research and you will be shocked.

Ya but they’re not the same without Charley

@@lucasdenis8378 agreed. I miss him 😢

What happened to him? I love his humor.

@@kennethsloboda1985 I think he’s moving or something

And they brought back the 1980s science intro! :D

And less reliable!

​@@imissyoumom7644eh? How so?

The 22 lb springs were having issues cycling range ammo. One of the fun parts of having a 10 was you could use cheaper 40 cal as range ammo, back when 40 was cheaper.

@e.u.palphawolvesmilitis6991 what do you shoot with the 22pound spring?

I am a reloader. I shoot only full power. The underwood 135 gr hollowpoints are starting point for me, then I get the projectiles from nosler to load my own. I also do 150gr extreme pen, and 140 gr extreme defense from lehigh. I then use 140 grain berries plated for practice. All full power. And no malfuctions.

Hope your day keeps getting better man.

@The_Devil_Himself thank you brother! That's such a uplifting response. I honestly didn't anticipate it. I wish you and yours all the best! Life is good, way better day today!

@@tomw2842 Good to hear!

I also carry that 115 underwood ammo. Screams like a rifle around. For the countryside I carry 200 gr. buffalo bore. Perfect counter measure for Large mammals confused about the food chain

I'm not sure a human sized ballistic dummy has enough meat for the 220gr hard cast, I buy those for bears.

The Underwood 140 Extream Penetrators are awsome also

@@morgatron4639 yeah probably would smoke through a human thorso without dumping as much energy as an xtreme defender or conventional hollow point. Still would be fun to see for science purposes lol

Don’t forget the G9 80gr!

i’ve always wanted to know

@@GarandThumbdo you realize Morgan and Morgan are massive Democrat donors?

@HielNah that’s true, it doesn’t matter what you use, if you miss it doesn’t matter.

If you ain't shootin hog, you aint testing shit. Gel monsters aint real.

Here in northern ID, I carry 9 in the street and 10 in the mountains for the obvious reasons.

​@HielNahand a 10mm 180g JHP will do the trick hoss

9mm for CC .357 Magnum or 10mm for woods

Practice with Underwood 10MM range ammo, 180 gr @ 1250 fps with 625 ft-lbs

​@@robertsmentkowski312the sig ammo is to the same spec. Its all I can find locally thats good full potency stuff

@@nateh2652 👍🏼 good to know

So you want to put Scott's thumb into Daddy Garand?

I saw that test. Wasn't the 10mm a rn and the 44mag a swc? That might be what made the difference in penetration.

That's not a good thing though. Impressive from a technical standpoint maybe, but not from a wounding capacity standpoint.

@@gilbertopadilla3611 damn I forgot the specefics, but that could be the case. It's been a while 😅

We're all just super impressed also that he didn't have to stick an index finger into a 10mm auto hole anywhere on his person . Good job bud ! You're _learning_ ! Like a real boy !

That's right. I have both 10mil and 45 . GO BIG BORE OR GO HOME

That’s a big gun to EDC!

Great choice with that 1911. I own a Springfield Armory XDM Elite OSP 3.8 in 10mm. My buddy says that possibly the only 10mm owner in my suburban area. Lol

ouch

RIP

One of my most profoundly held hopes is that one day, a majority of gun folk will understand what "point blank" range means. For a middlin' warm 10mm load with a 12" target zone, it'll be 'round 125-150 yards.

What was the round? Buffalo Bore 220gr? Or?

@@HKBuilderDIY If memory serves me correctly, the Norma Ammunition AB (Sweden) 200gr was the only bullet out there at the time (circa 1983...although Sierra made the 10mm prototypes with Mike Dixon and Jeff Cooper's input, they didn't do full scale production)...I don't think though, that it's the same as Norma's current offerings.

@@HKBuilderDIY The original intended loading was 200gr at 1,200 fps. Double Tap offers a load that slightly edges out said spec out of a 5" barrel with a JHP. The account is right in the sense normally available 10mm is well under spec, but wrong in the sense a few relatively boutique vendors offer rounds that meet or exceed the OG spec.

@@jebe4563yup, they have some loads that are making 900 lb ft😊

That 10mm won't do anything.

@@Sora2529any person in a Guntubers comments that has an avatar like yours is immediately discounted

@@Sora2529 what pronouns do you go by?

@@smithsmithersen1646 you thinking too much, shhh...breathe 😌, just ride the thunder and let the grains carry the lightning ⚡️😵⚰️

@@LilLizabeth hes right though, follow up shots and flinching are a lot less of a problem that 9mm

​@@taronbrown7665wow almost like training is the solution.

​@@smithsmithersen1646 😽

​​​@@smithsmithersen1646i see your point but not everybody is bothered by recoil or anticipates it to the point they flinch and miss thier first shot. They key to achieving that is when training, take enough time to Make Every Shot Count. With enough practice, the speed will come with muscle memory. Conversely, just pulling the trigger a bunch of times and hoping you get on target is not proper training, and just reinforces bad practices. The nice thing about training like I suggested is that is that it uses less ammo (at least till you get really good)- no reason to burn more ammo than necessary to practice hitting exactly where you want to. If you can't afford to train or don't have the time, then yeah, 9mm is your answer especially if you think about recoil when you shoot. Anyway, thats just my take, everybody's different when it comes to when that bang happens.

How you liking it? I have the same no problems so far. Although many reports of failure to feed and failure to eject.

Lol 😂

I did one in my own time to study the 10mm, vs 41 Mag vs 44 mag debate. I used a similar ballistics dummy and your typical Tee shirt, follwed by a Tee shirt and sweater, then a Tee shirt an old leather jacket, then Tee shirt, light sweater, and leather jacket. My test was done with a Glock 20 SF and I used Underwood's 165 and 180gr Gold Dots for the 10mm back when they still made them, and my own clone using bulled HST's in the same weight and Hornady XTP's. The 10mm in both weights still made pass throughs until the leather jacket was introduced. We also saw a few failures in the bullets such as failing to expand and full jacket separation on all three bullets. All shots were taken from 10 yards and a ransom rest was used. The rumor of nobody should carry 10mm because fear of over penetration is bunk, unless you are using hard cast ammo.

Look up Paul Harrell's channel. He makes what he calls a "meat target." Its a bag of oranges or a watermelon to simulate lung tissue. Pork ribs front and back and pork chops pectorals on the front. It is covered in several layers of cloth, front and back and covered with leather front and back. The 10mm does real damage. I believe it is a pretty accurate portrait of how bad someone's life is going to become if shot in the chest with a 10.

Tools&Targets does that but with regular gel blocks

Some guy does meat targets

​@egregiousblunder5395 Are you saying that the leather jacket stopped the bullet? Or simply that the bullets didn't go all the the way through the dummy when they had to go through the leather jacket first?

Thank God here in Indiana I don't have to worry about bears. 😆

225 grain hard cast underwood

@@stevenpostorino2755 😮 I bet that's pretty spicy

The RPG 7 is more effective against all apex predators & bank vault doors, so I heard!.

Underwood 10 mm 115grain solid copper at rated 1700 fps. It tested at average 1730 for me. For unruly critters. Same mag loaded in 40 for 2 legged critters. Light load 200 grain between 1.125 and 1.250 overall length😁. In same 10mm firearm. The extractor holds round in place

Lol thanks Michelle

Big mike sending little mike some love

​@@walterworrallBig Mike in the house

Glock 40 gang

@@johnwicksfoknpencilbased longboy gang.

Oh wow, I didn't even realize the Glock 20 was that old. Just looked it up, hit the market back in 1991!

Has sig fixed their qc problems?

​@@stephenzavatski8016No silly! The customers are the QC!

Sig x ten is fan fughin tastic

@@stephenzavatski8016 probably not lmao, but I must've been lucky with my 9mm P320. Runs fine so far but tbf it hasn't hit 1k rounds yet.

Sw mp 10mm is the best design and the best part is it holds the most ammo while being the most compact

Don't take yourselves "seriously." Does no one use adverbs anymore?

@@44excalibur adverbs were invented by the feds

​@@44excaliburWhy so seriously?

Such a nice feeling gun man, makes shooting 9mm right after feel like airsoft lol!