$499 Subwoofer Shootout: Kali Audio WS-6.2 vs Yamaha HS8S. The Kali is a BEAST!

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10 ай бұрын

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@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Buy the Kali WS-6.2: amzn.to/3RKze01 Buy the Yamaha HS8: amzn.to/3ZJtIwU ^ Affiliate links which earn me a small commission at no additional cost to you. P.S.: The Kali is my recommendation.

@Gamez4eveR 10 ай бұрын

you have HS8 in the video title and description which is the 8in studio monitor by yamaha, the sub is HS8S

@dlloyd6300 10 ай бұрын

Hey erin, why does the included link to the sub spreadsheet not show the newer measurements and only old content?

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

@@dlloyd6300 try it again. I had some rose hidden when I was trying to do a direct comparison last night and maybe you just clicked on it before I had a chance to set it back to normal. But it should be good now.

@dlloyd6300 9 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner I tried it again but all I have visibility of is row 47,48,55. I'd love to see all of your newer small form factor content on there that you have done like the Monolith, Yamaha, JL, KF92 etc.

@Ctripp2448 10 ай бұрын

How this channel does not have 100k subscribers yet baffles me. Best audio review channel by far period. Thanks for all you do Erin.

@brandonhall4429 10 ай бұрын

Everybody watching needs to like the video. That will help.

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

@tugbars4690 10 ай бұрын

Because he is not selling lies.

@audio_facts 10 ай бұрын

The problem is probably that Erin's providing facts, not bribed anecdotes and buzzwords. People don't always like facts, especially not audiophiles. Ironically, they don't always like performance either 😂 No, Erin's a real gem, with a bright mind and a pleasant personality. He'll get his well deserved fame eventually. Let's just hope he doesn't get worn out on his way to the top (or the Russians get to him after his past US/NASA government disclosure) 😅

@NosEL34 10 ай бұрын

Because the speakers he reviews don't have caramelly mids 😮

@audfrknaveen2256 10 ай бұрын

Look at the graphs and the explanation it gives so much clarity than hundreds of other reviewers just telling lengthy stories without a single data 😂😂❤

@morespinach9832 6 ай бұрын

Data helps. But it’s important to listen too.

@Clobercow1 10 ай бұрын

Man these subwoofer shootouts are the thing we really need for these price brackets. This is a huge value and I never would have suspected a dual 6.5" would have done so well. Not it's at the top of my short list.

@Darkcruzer23 10 ай бұрын

once again the comparison side by side is invaluable. you help us buy the best product for our hard earned money! doesnt get any better than that!

@onuponedown 9 ай бұрын

This channel is really GOLD! Thanks man. I bought a kali ws-6.2 nearly on this video alone for music & home cinema use in a small highly damped room of 5x5 m. Works really well for me, Still doing the subwoofer crawl, and have a second sub to use with the kali and my 2 Yamaha towers in my 5.2.6 setup, but everything looks good so far. I had a KC62 a few month ago, and this kali is not too far away from it imho. A SVS SB-1000 I also tested but this worked not so well with music, so the KC62 was it, but way too expensive so I gave it back and go now with the KALI.

@LongshanMusic 10 ай бұрын

FINALLY!!!! I am loving my WS-6.2!

@onortosu 10 ай бұрын

Awesome review thank you! I have the LP-6 so this seems like a pretty good fit. Bonus that it has the HPF output to the speakers.

@andydinger7339 10 ай бұрын

If you got a problem, Erin'll solve it, check out the hook while the Klippel revolves it

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Nice! I even liked the KLIPPEL/revolve part. That was clever. 😂

@morespinach9832 6 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCornerice ice baby

@FonsieClaw 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great work as always! This was a massacre! Impressive performance from the kali. Excellent review.

@Risandi_Pradipto 10 ай бұрын

Awesome review based on data as usual. Keep up the good work, Sir.

@zacharyybarra7676 10 ай бұрын

I get off on data. I appreciate what you do, sir!

@anaxa4883 10 ай бұрын

Superb review as always. Easily the best speaker reviewer

@arthurlee5220 10 ай бұрын

Blown away by how it come against the SVS!

@tonymolina7744 10 ай бұрын

Nice review Erin, thank you once again. 🙃

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@krutipedali629 4 ай бұрын

Subscribed 🚀 Excellent review!

@GreySectoid 3 ай бұрын

Excellent review, just what I looked for.

@johannjohann6523 8 ай бұрын

Very Good video. As one who believes it is possible (though not ideal) to puchase stereo equipment, even speakers without hearing them given the Thiele numbers and amazing spectrum analyzer software for computers. But there can be "too much information" and I like the "meat and potatoes No's." you gave us about each subwoofer.

@2Naughty 9 ай бұрын

Thank u for the in-depth vid

@07wrxtr1 9 ай бұрын

I think you just solved my desktop subwoofer search! It gets OLD moving around large subs if you move often and the room placement game... hoping to put the Kali in a space on top of my solid oak computer desk that weighs a TON... I had a pair of the svs pb 1000's a while back... but I sold them... now looking for desktop audio/nearfield pairing with Adam Audio T5v's..... Erin - maybe I'll end up 100% Kali audio... they sound like a bunch of engineers that got sick of the corporate bs and formed their own company ;-) gotta love stories like that!

@doca9357 7 ай бұрын

2x6 vs 1x8, more air pushed, more efficiently, would like to hear both side by side, though I got my hs8 for 300 open box, worked for my budget. We'll see what the future holds, nice video, thanks

@JurajHatina 10 ай бұрын

Great review and comparison!

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@johannjohann6523 8 ай бұрын

So thank you for the video offering good informatoin so the rest of us can make good decisions when buying either stereo or studio equipment. Yamaha is a well known solid brand, but Kali though new make some amazing items that compete with products 2 and 3 times their cost. Especially when packaged together in different configurations of speakers/monitors and subwoofers. Very innovative yet simple company with U.S. made products.

@user-lo5gq 5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the Kali WS6.2 costs AUD $1299 in Australia vs AUD $569 for the HS8, it looks like a special amazon deal for US customers.

@ronniefarhat95 10 ай бұрын

How do these compared to the Monolith THX 8 inch in EQ 2 mode? I tried looking back through your videos since you haven’t done a direct comparison video yet for the Monolith 8 compared to these others, but unless I’m missing something, you weren’t doing the compression graphs the same on those earlier videos, so I wasn’t quite sure.

@Gamez4eveR 10 ай бұрын

Finally! The HS8S was the first sub I ever bought and boy was it a disappointment! I upgraded to two Monolith 12 THX so you can picture quite well what sort of upgrade that was ;)

@gabrielmease1169 10 ай бұрын

Another great video!

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@themastroiannis 3 күн бұрын

great review, interesting (revealing) measurements...but what about the Sound? note distinction?? tone? for example in an upright bass, lowest notes of a piano, an organ, a tuba? which subwoofer gives a more natural, realistic sound? would love to know that... thanks!

@mwahlert 10 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see how they all compare to something with a larger driver/cabinet but a similar price. Like the RSL 10S MK2 or BIC PL-300.

@JaihindhReddy 10 ай бұрын

Damn, it's very surprising how much better the Kali is! I would love to see a review of the JBL LSR310S. This one seems to be super good, esp in India where it's priced at ~240USD.

@onortosu 10 ай бұрын

That's my question too. I wonder how close to the Kali that one is. the LSR310S is larger though.

@Byronthetrucker 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for posting this video, I'm getting back into better sound gear and I was set on Presonus until I heard the Kali LP6 V.2 man great sounding monitor IMO

@MrAlexandreazevedo 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this nice review. I would like to suggest reviewing the Yamaha NS-SW300 which can be found cheaper and certainly, it has superior performance because it has 250 W output power and it can go down to 20Hz and this 10-inch home subwoofer has the lowest low-frequency rating in a test group, which helps it compete with larger, more powerful 12-inch woofers.

@FateSoulzZ 8 ай бұрын

would like to see this reviewed as well, though we have no idea how it measures in terms its f3 and f10

@avnut5517 10 ай бұрын

Not bad for a compact sub. Really surprised.

@timbarlow1652 10 ай бұрын

Kali products always seem to be on top of everything. Definitely a great brand. I’d be interested to see the Kali, vs the svs micro.

@Void_Ctrl 8 ай бұрын

I know the comparison wasn't in this video, but would you take the Kali WS-6.2 or an SVS SB-1000 Pro if prices were equal?

@ravikashsaini2801 Ай бұрын

The most crucial thing missed here via the graphs is how flat the eq curve is between 40-100hz. That's a gigantic factor that never gets discussed.

@dlloyd6300 10 ай бұрын

DAAAAAAAAMN KALI! Comes out swinging! Why bother with any other sub in this bracket? Winning on the charts and CRUSHING in price!

@bc8Sooners 2 ай бұрын

Wow what a performance from two 6.5" subs.

@justinbeamon6624 10 ай бұрын

Wow crazy how much better the Kali is. The new Presonus pro sub 10 inch would be cool to test i think.

@Darkcruzer23 10 ай бұрын

i wonder if the 12" kali would be just as dominant vs the competition?

@eojizzz 5 ай бұрын

Hi, can I use audio interface to play music from my iphone?

@TheBassallyear100 10 ай бұрын

Kali would also probably be a fun little sub to use nearfield

@greenbeginner9221 29 күн бұрын

Can the Kali be used in a home stereo or is it only for studio monitor use?

@Hexspa 5 ай бұрын

Looking forward to the LP-UNF review!

@spareplanet 10 ай бұрын

The variable high pass filter on the Yamaha is a really nice feature. By eliminating the low frequencies, you can drive your monitors harder, giving you MUCH clearer sound. And avoid doubling output.

@homeboi808 10 ай бұрын

The Kali has an 80Hz high-pass on its outputs too. But yes, the frequency isn’t variable.

@DJSoulbrother 6 ай бұрын

@@homeboi808 I don't know about this newer sub but the original 12 inch Kali when paired with the Kali studio monitors has dipswitches that seamlessly roll both off together depending on model frequency responses

@rikukona3632 2 ай бұрын

I want to get HS8s, but my current setup consists of Edifier 1700BTs and a Topping D10 with RCA connections. Can I use a cable like AUX to TRS from my 1700BTs to the HS8s

@matiaserp 10 ай бұрын

The Kali was very impressive, not only against the Yamaha but specially compared to the SVS and JL! 😳

@07wrxtr1 9 ай бұрын

I had two svs pb-1000’s… I think they perform great for movies, but I listen to music at the computer so I got rid of them after a few moves. Just ordered the Kali - should be amazing for desktop audio and bedroom movies… I’ll eventually migrate to SVS or a physically larger dual sub setup for a living room movie watching situation

@chinmeysway 4 ай бұрын

@@07wrxtr1heyya how ya liking the kali sub?

@RMW1982 10 ай бұрын

Glad I didn’t pull the trigger on the SVS or KEF…they don’t seem worth 2-3x price of the Kali. Thanks for saving me money Erin!

@07wrxtr1 9 ай бұрын

Same - I owned a pair of the older PB 1000's from SVS... sure they were awesome - but - the biggest issue is you get to move them around and that part is not fun! Sold them! This Kali looks to be the ticket as you have a TON of placement options and you won't feel like you're forced to sell come moving time

@trogdor21997 10 ай бұрын

Have you tested or just heard any Emotiva subs in the $500-$1000 range?

@staticv3570 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for doing CEA-2010A measurements!

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

You bet!

@thepathnotfound 10 ай бұрын

Love the review! I’ve been looking at Kali monitors and the larger sub to take the place of my JBL 305s. Be great to see a review of the WS-12. Thx

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

If you guys bug Kali enough maybe they’ll loan me one to review.

@kaliaudio 10 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner we will just give us a minute. People keep buying them so I don't have any to send.

@bbfoto7248 10 ай бұрын

@@kaliaudio Terrible problem to have, gents! 😜 I'm still enjoying my IN-8 Second Wave monitors. 👍

@tylerrynberg 10 ай бұрын

Amazing how much more value the Kali provides than the others...and realistically the size difference isn't going to matter the vast majority of the time.

@IrenESorius 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Erin,, 👍‍‍😎👍‍‍

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

👍

@IrenESorius 10 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner ❤

@socksgratecheese 10 ай бұрын

wild how much better the kali performs than others in the size class. this reminds me of what car sql guys have been doing recently of using smaller driver woofers with powerful motors to drive a powerful port

@jabbejokker 10 ай бұрын

My name is Erin. I’m from Alabama. I can use fancy buzzwords like… tight and punchy😂 Love your channel dude!

@spdcrzy 4 ай бұрын

My WS 6.2 is NUTS lol. I'm getting the IN-8 v2s soon as well...all in a 15x13 room. :D

@Hirnlego999 10 ай бұрын

Excellent test, Kali clearly is a better design

@nobody1841 19 күн бұрын

I am interested in he MartinLogan subs because of what I owned in the early 2024. ML seems to be doing something different w their estats, which makes me wonder about the new releases. Hoping to spend 5-700$$. Found your channel and subbed.

@paultravisano9403 10 ай бұрын

A good comparison would be to thr RSL 10s mkii. A little cheaper and wider but the CEA 2010 crushes all of these.

@mrlinde6518 10 ай бұрын

JL is 2 x price? So imagine 2 Kali's...pretty unbeatable

@we8463 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review and advice. How does the Kali compared with the mini KEF KC62? The JL cost $999

@danielezzet8870 10 ай бұрын

This subwoofer is able to produce more spl than the kef kc62 from 25 to 80 hz but the kef is able to complete the CEA-2010-A test at 20 hz

@JC-fj7oo 6 ай бұрын

I think something that was left out which is extremely important is the actual crossover. Most people using these subs (for studio monitoring) are going to follow the instructions and plug into the sub and then run out to the speakers from there. The crossover itself can introduce all sorts of problems if it isn't done right. It can add noise, it can create dips or peaks... And adding another mastering-quality crossover to the mix can be easily another hundred bucks. And of course it requires more cables and more fiddling.

@chinmeysway 4 ай бұрын

seems like running say kali monitors out of a kali sub is the forethought on this here sub, so the given 80hz crossover selection is sufficient.

@JC-fj7oo 4 ай бұрын

@@chinmeysway there's more than one Kali monitor... There's also a different size and shaped rooms. In fact I have the Kali and I'm actually dealing with a null around 100hz that would probably be fixed by changing the crossover. An option that's only available with the Yamaha. But that also doesn't say anything about the quality of the crossover itself.

@herrtrigger7220 2 күн бұрын

Any issues with the Kali voltage input? The Kali WS-12 only makes 116db given a 4 V signal, it needs about 8 V (or more) to get the spec'd SPL of 123db. No way it's getting used in a home listening environment. I mean you can but it's just not going to get near it's potential.

@headphones741 8 ай бұрын

Could you do a shootout between the KRK S10.4 10 inch Powered Studio Subwoofer and the ADAM Audio T10S 10 inch Powered Studio Subwoofer? KRKs are getting really good reviews and Adam Audio I know is a very trusted brand.

@anthonyanello1244 10 ай бұрын

Man Erin you are so good at these reviews but they leave me wanting more information that is important to help understand if they will work in a given system. Are they good for floorstanding speakers down to 40Hz? Are they good for larger monitors that go as low as 50Hz or for smaller monitors that need to be crossed over at 80 Hz? There are no measurements of how well the crossovers work at various settings including the lowest frequency. We also have no idea about enclosure resonance, does the speaker buzz at higher frequencies even if we set a low crossover? What about in-room response and best positioning? Output, group delay and distortion are very important but so much important data is still missing. There is no way I can conclude if these subwoofers would be a good fit for me.

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Because those factors are invariably tied to your mains and your room. There’s no way for me to know and cover everyone’s setup. I’d need to know the rolloff of the mains. I would need to know the position of the speakers in the room. See measurements of the response in the room to know if crossing over at one point makes more than another. Just way too many variables to be generic about it, unfortunately.

@reiness 6 ай бұрын

The Yamaha is available in my country for around $270, is it a good buy at that price?

@einarbk885 10 ай бұрын

one issue is that the kali has a fixed crossover of 80hz, unless your using external crossover from receiver?

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Look at my FR. I’m in external mode and the response is reasonably flat to at least 400Hz (I didn’t measure beyond this frequency).

@ernieg 8 ай бұрын

kali also has a FOOT SWITCH a Must For Me

@editorjuno 10 ай бұрын

I'd love to hear you interview Kali's main guy, Chas. Sprinkle.

@orvelipeikko3527 10 ай бұрын

Do you have plans on reviewing the bigger Kali WS12?

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Not currently but maybe in the future.

@WWeiss-nv5vz 10 ай бұрын

How does a $499 studio sub compare to similar priced home audio sub? Performance wise, I know studio subs have xlr.

@BL-yj2wp 8 ай бұрын

Not great. Erin reviewed the Monolith 10" THX that cost around 500$ and is representative of other modern 10" DSP subs around that price point as well. You get LFX 20Hz and quite a bit more output. They are bigger though.

@454Casull 5 ай бұрын

Great vid! Have you done any testing of distortion with the built-in crossover in the Kali? I'm thinking of using the Kali as the first component in a 2.1 system, using the balanced in & out, but I'm not sure if there would be any audible degradation by using the built-in crossover vs an external crossover of some sort.

@ErinsAudioCorner 5 ай бұрын

I haven’t. But honestly I can’t imagine this would even remotely be an issue.

@454Casull 5 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner Thanks!

@ubacow7109 6 ай бұрын

You never uploaded the measurement for the kali sub to your site

@MattZildjian 10 ай бұрын

would love to see some data from you for the SVS SB1000 Pro. Similar-ish price range to these, also compact.

@ad_fletch 10 ай бұрын

No balanced connections, but yes would still be interesting.

@BL-yj2wp 8 ай бұрын

Audioholics reviewed it.. If you want an overview of subwoofer reviews and performance google "Subwoofer Comparison sweetchaos", there is a thread on ASR.

@JeffHeon 10 ай бұрын

I like using sub to have a bit of meat around the bone when listening to music or TV. I actually dislike feeling bass in my chest or super low bass though, so I suppose the SVS would be the appropriate choice for me out of the four conpared. I’ll just stick to my little sub that goes down to 40 hertz for now.

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

The chest pounding bass is lower midbass: 40-80 Hz.

@JeffHeon 10 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner Thank you so much for the response. It put things in perspective for me!

@ProdbyAdwerdz 7 ай бұрын

Would you need an isolation pad for the Yamaha HS8s subwoofer?

@SheepDude-qp7ux 2 ай бұрын

Can we see a review of the jbl lsr-310s?

@marktrainer118 8 ай бұрын

Are these SPL measurements referenced to a ground plane (2pi) or actual full space (4pi)

@ErinsAudioCorner 8 ай бұрын

FR is full space. CEA-2010 is groundplane 2m, peak.

@jacobharley7117 9 ай бұрын

I would love to see you measure a bunch of JTR speakers and subwoofers.

@ErinsAudioCorner 9 ай бұрын

My back hurts just thinking about it. I did review one of their speakers about 1.5 years ago, though.

@ericmoss6110 10 ай бұрын

Holy cow... pick up 2 of the Kali subs, set it up with your receiver, and you could have very respectable bass for a small to medium home theater for $1k. I mean not earth shattering of course but man, how do you beat that?

@paultravisano9403 10 ай бұрын

With two RSL 10s MKII instead 😅

@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah 10 ай бұрын

@@paultravisano9403indeed with two Speedwoofer 10s MK2s

@ericmoss6110 10 ай бұрын

@@paultravisano9403 fair enough

@DJSoulbrother 6 ай бұрын

They're audio subs bud, as producers we don't want infrasonics as they not musical anyway, Most producers tend to roll off under 30 and use musical notes above that in the first place that use can actually differentiate between :D

@DamnnnDarius 2 ай бұрын

can you do a video on the PreSonus Eris Pro Sub 10

@07wrxtr1 9 ай бұрын

Erin - Question - Can I buy two and use them as my speaker "stands" for my new Adam Audio T5V's? They would hide behind my 43" monitor and the ports would be exposed on the bottom... Could be wild for gaming!

@ErinsAudioCorner 9 ай бұрын

Hmmm. Possibly it. Just make sure it’s high enough to put the tweeters on axis.

@07wrxtr1 9 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner Just ordered a single... going to see if I can squeeze it in behind the monitor... should be more than enough for the bedroom. Pray for me that it lasts > 5 years... I have 2 pairs of 2016 M-Audio (M3-6's and M3-8's - all the made in China amps have crapped out) that have had various issues... Sometimes I want to go back to external amps > plate amps... but that's a whole different debate

@MansaMarMusic 5 ай бұрын

that thing is a beast

@ahfimiwonawun 4 ай бұрын

I wish I could hook up my hs8’s to my ol’ logitech z906 subwoofer.

@sergeysidorkin5014 6 ай бұрын

Take measurements with the crossover on at 80Hz.

@pulDag 10 ай бұрын

One thing I don't get is why all Kalis look like they're designed in '90. This mouth at the bottom would look OK if it all was in one matte finish.. maybe nittpicking but in the living room it matters. Either way thank you Erin once more. Maybe Kali ws12 with interesting PA feature some day? Have fun all..

@zephrizi9034 7 ай бұрын

They are marketed towards pro audio, pro audio generally doesn't care how it looks.

@seanb3303 10 ай бұрын

Is that a Vanilla Ice shirt? Good to see you so comfortable with yourself 🌈 😉

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

It is. 😉

@ultrarealism 10 ай бұрын

This data hits hard.

@rafagincas 3 ай бұрын

Would it be possible to use the Kali in a hifi setup?

@borey123xx9 3 ай бұрын

Yes. The kali Sub is a studio subwoofer so it would give you cleaner and tighter bass than a regular hifi sub

@murraywebster1228 Күн бұрын

I find your definition a bit off for what we in the pro world would call sub/bass/bass-mid, when I talk to colleagues then sub is generally 20-80 Hz, bass 60-160 Hz, bass-mid 120-240, you may wonder about the overlapping, this is due to what is percieved as these areas depending on the instrument that is being talked about in that moment as the areas as a range will change in respect to dynamic and sound characteristics of the instrument, but generally you could say the crossover frequencies would be 80 and 160 Hz which also reflects the range that certain boxes produce in large systems, you may also note that these are generally picked to be generally split into 2 to 4 octaves in the lower frequencies which is convenient for amplifier power distribution, you often speak of 100-120 Hz as bass middle, maybe the middle of the „bass“ frequencies but when someone talks to me about this I am thinking in the 160 Hz area, and then low-mids being @ 240 Hz, this probably came about more from the power distribution and musical scales as opposed to pure mathematical splitting of a logarithmic scale, remember you have musicians communicating with engineers out of which is a acceptance from what is sub-bass-lowmid-highmid-high, and that depending on the instrument,eg bass guitar vs electric guitar…

@Ceedubbya 10 ай бұрын

Would love to see the jbl ls310s compared as well

@harukodsp 3 ай бұрын

my thoughts exactly... this Yamaha sub has already been proven to be inferior to competitors like the JBL LSR310s or the Adam Audio T10s. Both cheaper than the Yamaha sub. Although this comparison has lot's of information about WS 6.2, it is actually kind of useless to compare these two subs

@BriBCG 10 ай бұрын

Wow, I wonder how the Kali manages to output so much volume at those low frequencies with such small drivers.

@mwahlert 10 ай бұрын

Excursion and power.

@kaliaudio 10 ай бұрын

@@mwahlert YUP!

@BL-yj2wp 8 ай бұрын

Two 6.5" woofers equal about one 9" woofer. Ported 10" subs with comparibly powerful amps have a fair bit more SPL capability (and extension, this rolls of steeply from 32Hz), so this checks out. The Yamaha is just terrible.

@Clobercow1 10 ай бұрын

Kali trounces the Yahama. It's not even close. The distortion was surprising.

@aleXtreme_ 10 ай бұрын

Kali is KING :)

@pinusmasterful 8 ай бұрын

While its certainly a nice sub, I dont get why you shouldnt just buy a Polk HTS10 for 50% cheaper with more output? Am i missing something?

@pkd.81 7 ай бұрын

You are missing the obvious fact that the Polk HTS10 is a big box consumer-grade home theatre sub and the two subwoofers reviewed here are professional studio monitor subwoofers.

@BL-yj2wp 10 ай бұрын

If only they would have given the Kali more extension at lower volumes and just limit it at higher volumes, no need to have -6dB at 30Hz at lower volume. EDIT: Well, maybe it's better to just have it be consistent since for its intended purpose it's going to be EQ'd anyway. But among studio subs it's certainly a good choice, I'd love to see them come out with a 10 or 12" model. The Yamaha is just bad for the money. Rating that thing at 22Hz is just wrong.

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

They do make a 12”. Maybe I can review that sometime down the line.

@BL-yj2wp 10 ай бұрын

@@ErinsAudioCorner The WS-12 seems to be more of a PA sub, I was hoping for something more modern and studio or even home theater focused. They certainly have the ability to pull that off. Love your work by the way, really points out the good as well as the bad and sometimes ugly.

@bbfoto7248 10 ай бұрын

@@BL-yj2wp KALI might do that in the future. Keep your eye on their "Mammoth" series. They made a Home Version of the Kali LP-6 v2 Studio Monitors....it's the MM-6. They added Digital Toslink & Digiital Coaxial inputs for versatility....i.e. for your Home Theater HDTV's Toslink output, gaming consoles, A/V receivers, etc. So it has Balanced XLR, single-ended RCA, and the two Digital Inputs. It has been very popular.

@NosEL34 10 ай бұрын

ICE ICE Baby...(too cold,too cold)

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

Too coooold.

@KimmoJaskari 10 ай бұрын

Yamaha's subs are just always not that impressive. They all give that cheapo consumer feel even though they're not cheap. 150 watts already tells you what you need to know, it's going to make bass but it won't be anything special. Kali is doing a lot of good stuff these days, they also have some really nice powered speakers.

@johndaddabbo9383 10 ай бұрын

Hmmm, Polk PSW10 $150 - buy Duals (or better still three) for Room dialed-in bass (granted NOT down to 20hz) -OR- spend $100 more and blow the snot out of both of these subs with the Monoprice Monolith THX 10". Well, just one man's opinion anyhow...

@hu._- 10 ай бұрын

rolls off at 40Hz ... seems like a woofer to me, not a subwoofer ... my tower speakers are -3dB at 23Hz ... not to say they are not worth adding to some bookshelf speaker setups .. just my opinion of what "sub" means

@ErinsAudioCorner 10 ай бұрын

What speakers are you running? Speaking from experience: For them to roll off that low they must be huge, have low sensitivity or the manufacturer is full of it.

@hom2fu 10 ай бұрын

here we go again. manufacture bogus claim