4AGE and B18 battle on track!

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5 жыл бұрын

It's the last race of the year and both cars are at their peak. Both the EG6 and AE82 have their best version of their respective engines swapped in (4AGE 20v Black Top and B18C5). Both have suspension upgrades and both have good drivers. The Corolla and the Civic each have a win under their belt which one will win the final battle?
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@roronoa7vector 5 жыл бұрын

Am i the only one that i really enjoy little cars like this than big heavy with lots of power cars...??? Shush great Videos i really enjoy your channel! Keep it up!

@jameshaulenbeek5931 5 жыл бұрын

Little cars are so much fun to drive. I don't care if someone's mustang/camaro/challenger/pick-up can out run me on the straight. I can take a corner at least 5mph faster without any loss of traction. And I can park it anywhere, too.

@TheQuestionableGarage 5 жыл бұрын

That Corolla sounds incredible. Glad to see one without the dreaded passenger side hatch rot!

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Luckily it was a California car and didn't get any rust.

@spongebobdriftpants 5 жыл бұрын

I need my ae86 to sound that good! What muffler is on your ae82?

@stevesloan6775 3 жыл бұрын

One minute forty into this video and already I will say straight away... you win the internet for today. Solely due to one of the greatest uses of synchronised footage I have seen in yonks! 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😂😂🍀😎🎁🎄

@Rezz4Prez 5 жыл бұрын

editing was ON POINT!

@ToreDL87 5 жыл бұрын

...So it's not really engine vs engine, car vs car, but 100% driver vs driver :) Edit: Don't do wide turns with low displacement fwd. PS: Sounds awesome as usual, another excellent installment!

@ShaiyanHossain 5 жыл бұрын

3am here but always a good time for NA induction noise!

@holdshiftt2run308 5 жыл бұрын

same here lol

@rontreen3278 4 жыл бұрын

You damn right it's 4:15 a.m. my time... And I played this back got three times already oh... how I miss my 87 Corolla fx16 GTS

@PeterXChhanX 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing editing! And no more on board camera sway was much better haha. And thank you for defending the honor of toyota! Not too many people take on the mighty eg in corollas

@screwdajuice 3 жыл бұрын

This is some top tier content. I really hope you get more recognition.

@AnAngryPossom 5 жыл бұрын

I love your reviews and track tests because for one thing, there are very few people with an FX16 that are doing anything like this, and for two, the editing is spot on. The ghost overlays of the cars on the runs is such a cool touch. Looking forward to more next year.

@typedrew 5 жыл бұрын

this

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Liam!

@SilentGamer-jt8dl 5 жыл бұрын

Can't beat the sound of that 4age 20v man! hi from NZ

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

SilentGamer hello SilentGamer!

@Iesous27 Жыл бұрын

Fucking love that EG6, it's so nice and with the B18, god damn it roars. I don't know his setup, but he didn't seem confident on the turns, maybe his tires aren't sticky or the suspension is lacking, but even still, what a beaut. God damn, gotta love small japanese cars. They've literally created the most car enthusiasts in the world.

@siveshgovinder7287 5 жыл бұрын

Great video....always keeping me entertained!!

@andyknowles666 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent little vid, amazing how close they are!

@pretol2730 5 жыл бұрын

oh man, that miata 4-wheel drift in the intro is schweet..

@linchester8464 5 жыл бұрын

That ghost vs ghost matchup editing is nice. Jordon Cox who drives a red Shingo EG6 is damn fast on the track and you can see his car lifting the rear wheel at the high speed corners.

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

I felt the ghost matchup lets you see in real time where each car is gaining and losing time.

@throwout1483 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants I like it, lets me see which car's faster in which sections. EG6 has better straight line but AE82 has it on cornering.

@ronald6756 5 жыл бұрын

i have heard this means you are achieving the maximum grip the car is capable of when the inside rear wheel lifts mid turn (on fwd hatchbacks), is it true?

@JETZcorp 3 жыл бұрын

@@ronald6756 The idea with a fwd is to have a really stiff swaybar in the rear, in order to put more load on the outside rear tire to take weight off the front. The front obviously tends to get overloaded easily on a fwd cat. So when you see a car lifting a rear wheel, it means that this has been done. However there's all sorts of other factors that could still make the car corner better or worse.

@ronald6756 5 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on 10K!! very deserving given the time and effort that goes into each and every video of yours. I hope your channel continues to grow!

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you! I’m getting a little cake 🧁 to celebrate:D

@PrettyChrome 4 жыл бұрын

Such a well done video cool job dude!!

@Ed50482 5 жыл бұрын

More sense than money as James May would put it... I could listen to both of those engines all day long! Liked and subscribed! Looking forward to what's next!

@reddyt1d658 5 жыл бұрын

Love your videos man! Keep up the good work!

@TheEVGAftw 5 жыл бұрын

I gotta say i love the gran turismo esque if thats what you were going for! again, love how you edit these! And that toyo really sounds amazing

@XHikotheproX 5 жыл бұрын

I would never get tired of the induction sound

@mangoshake 5 жыл бұрын

Damn that Evora's steering is on point--super tight. Props to the Evo. Major turbo lag but it manages to keep up just barely.

@ChrisHondaProductions 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid!!! Two great motors!!!! Luv it !!!

@wopino 5 жыл бұрын

Hell yea bro, that was a dope matchup, you smoked that course the last three matches. Very impressive driving bro you need to teach me. Awesome vid as always man

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

I’m down to cruise when ever. You gotta show me what your civic can do!

@wopino 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants you can drive her and see for yourself! I need sticky tires

@4thImpulse 5 жыл бұрын

The overlays are awesome! Wish Motortrend and the other big mags did the same thing in their vids.

@bentizzano1187 5 жыл бұрын

I think that b18c needs a set of ITBs

@sqweezzstr 5 жыл бұрын

flywheel n bigger tb much cheaper n less headache for obd2 n better results for buck

@Lezgothen 5 жыл бұрын

this is great

@ysanoo97 5 жыл бұрын

The corolla sounds amazing 👌🏼

@adrianolacerda3410 4 жыл бұрын

I want that yota 😔👌, really clean car, love it

@ChrisHondaProductions 4 жыл бұрын

2 classic rides !!! Luv them both !!!! Not gonna lie was kinda rooting for the Toyota just because I don’t see the fx a lot but love the eg !!!! Kick ass guys!!!!

@throwout1483 5 жыл бұрын

Love your FX-16 GTS. I love the AE82 as much as the AE86 and AW11. I'd love to have a street tuned AW11 to go against that.

@itwontdie 5 жыл бұрын

Ghost cars FTW

@tsubakireiri5594 5 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to finish up mine 4AGE Blacktop conversion to my mpv Toyota Avanza... From K3VE to 4AGE :)

@jacobhiller6731 5 жыл бұрын

Gotta love that intake garble!

@rpsmee 5 жыл бұрын

If he gets some RE71Rs... You're in trouble :) great vid!

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, the RE71Rs are pretty sticky, but Jonathan's Civic is on Dunlop's Z2 star specs which aren't too far behind.

@rpsmee 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants 71Rs are definitely the ST tire to have. I'm going to run in FSP next year so I'll be looking for Hoosiers in the off season.

@mangoshake 5 жыл бұрын

@@rpsmee what do you mean by ST tire because to my understanding ST means Special Trailer a.k.a. for towing

@rpsmee 5 жыл бұрын

SCCA Autocross Street Tire class.

@PeterXChhanX 5 жыл бұрын

That second to last left hander (in the comparative slalom compilation part) looks like its giving your front tires trouble a little bit. Troubles of a fwd working HARD! You put up a hell of a fight see what you were up against!

@pretol7920 5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, that miata in a little bouncy, but it's killing it...

@bimoph8119 5 жыл бұрын

Damn one true ghost battle

@LucasLeotube 6 ай бұрын

dope asf

@ttturb0489 5 жыл бұрын

Nice

@JC30indigo 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, would like complete runs.. What seat is in the toyota? Enough support?

@penthesilea_j2649 5 жыл бұрын

I loovee The sound

@holdshiftt2run308 5 жыл бұрын

I clicked as soon as I saw the notification. Great video. Isn't the AE82 light than the EG6?

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

The AE82 is lighter, but not by much. The EG6 is the CX model which was the base model and also the lightest of the EG6 hatches.

@sigmaprojects 5 жыл бұрын

Seeing the rear inside tire come up is a treat.

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

You should have see how high the tire came up on the stock suspension!

@sigmaprojects 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants haha, why change it? Sounds like fun 🤣 What spring rates/roll bars are you running now if you don't mind me asking?

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

i'm running an stiffer front and rear sway bar and MRP coilovers which are 6k/4k. The stock suspension with the original 4age was fine, but after the 20v swap the suspension was overwhelmed. The car is a lot faster now needed the upgrade suspension.

@sigmaprojects 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants What kind of weight balance do you have? I find with a stiffer front roll center the steering feels good, but then the car doesn't want to rotate as well so I changed to 4k/5k. I don't have a FX16 but figure there's some similarity with my 2000 Insight. I wish you lived nearby so you could drive my car and give some advice on setting it up.

@asdfghjklzxcvbnm6874 4 жыл бұрын

hooow, hoooooow????, how u can edit that ghost effect so flawless

@malexander9146 5 жыл бұрын

It would be nice if you switched rides at the autocross; don't know if you did that already? Love both machines and love the content

@6351stuart 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, great sound and loved the ghost car. The Corolla did well! any plans for a LSD?

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i'm going over the options right now. I'm looking into a Kaaz 1.5 way LSD.

@6351stuart 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants its surprising how much of a difference they make worth the money tho IMO. It Would be nice to see a video in the ghost style on a track of you with open diff vs LSD.

@maxpham 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome, “34” used to be my autocross numbers! Any meaning behind your digits selection?

@_i-kr6eg 5 жыл бұрын

Hopefully I'll get my AE82 20v build going .

@kakospecs9152 5 жыл бұрын

Where’s the drag race at? Nice cars btw!

@chadw8272 5 жыл бұрын

if this course was made for a higher average speed, the civic would have owned, these short spints and turns really made the rwd glow

@n0ti5 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome, c160 seems to have tighter gear ratios thats what might be giving it the leg up, but yeah its lsd time. I don't know how much you like your power steering but have you looked into the manual rack off a aw11 with the quaife quick ratio rack and pinion kit and it will help the 20v get rid of a little bit parasitic draw from the pump. You might have to hit the gym a little more or just drive more twisties after its installed :D

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

The c160 is great for staying in the powerband. Would the aw11 rack fit in the corolla? if it does, i think i would seriously consider the swap.

@n0ti5 5 жыл бұрын

I don't know for sure. I know ae86 guys swap to aw11 racks, If I still had my ae82 i would have tried it. Im thinking it should, maybe with different combinations of '82 c brackets, bushings, inner tie rods with '11 bracket, bushings and rods and maybe different length end splined column shaft

@gyzfr6 4 жыл бұрын

I had my AE82 without power steering pump and no a/c pulley either. Freed some decent power but hard on your arms, very fatiguing.

@MJT-DA 5 жыл бұрын

Since the 4age motor has trumpets will it suck in dust and dirt? Or did you add a filter after it?

@princesssolace4337 5 жыл бұрын

I♥️ both the Civics and Corollas...What is there not to like?

@TearothDK 5 жыл бұрын

What wheels and size are those on the Corolla? Look like classic Work ones.

@garathunnuvahkin7819 5 жыл бұрын

Instantly clicked! You've inspired me to get an FX-16 of my own! (Though it looks nowhere as good as yours..)

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

Garathun, if you saw the sorry state mine was in when I got it. My FX16 had one foot in the junkyard before i rescued it.

@garathunnuvahkin7819 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants Dude! Yours is absolutely gorgeous. The true to form paint style, the 20v swap, the whole aesthetic is phenomenal. By making all these troubleshooting vids you're doing a great service to this community, however small it is.

@TGETC-th9ef 5 жыл бұрын

Its all about the driver also

@removeableskull7446 4 жыл бұрын

If you had a way to have an elevated view of the heats with the ghost effect that would be sick

@sushpants 4 жыл бұрын

I had the equipment to do it but this track is located within an airport and you can’t fly a drone within 5 miles of an active airport.

@unliv3d 5 жыл бұрын

You two should probably look into swapping cars sometime.

@6ixthstage845 Жыл бұрын

What seats in the corolla?

@stevesloan6775 3 жыл бұрын

3:25mins and I’m gob-smacked at how freaky your footage is. Please keep refining this format. I feel it could become huge. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen this in video games, but I’m glad too see it using actual video.

@swaginik 5 жыл бұрын

what type of 4AGE is it like, a Blacktop?

@raeeshassiem8937 4 жыл бұрын

Will you make a drag race video

@ryosuke.takahashi 3 жыл бұрын

Honda vs toyota shows vid of mx5 at start 🤣 love ur videos tho

@sushpants 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Drifter86. That was a cool Miata and it was driven well 😁. I’m a sucker for Miata’s, I had a supercharged one myself. Look through my older videos and you can see that thing rip.

@franko3006 4 жыл бұрын

What's the corollas 6 speed gearbox from. Or is that standard

@sushpants 4 жыл бұрын

The 6 speed gearbox is from a Levin BZR (AE111). It really keeps the 4AGE in the sweet spot between every gear change.

@v8_sami 5 жыл бұрын

You don't see those Corollas without rust anymore

@warrendurbin8514 5 жыл бұрын

Like like like

@nlpnt 5 жыл бұрын

Why did I see a Ram Trucks ad before this instead of one for a new Corolla Hatchback or Civic Sport hatch/Si? Someone in Honda and Toyota's ad agencies are dropping the ball.

@thinwig9953 5 жыл бұрын

I can’t even find this car for sale anywhere, I’m trying to find an old car I can autocross or rally, love the style of 80’s hatchbacks but they are damn expensive. Do you have any ideas of where to look?

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

The FX16's a really hard to find, especially ones in good shape. You can join some of the FX16 facebook groups, people list their cars on there and post other FX's for sale in their areas.

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

The Honda EF hatchbacks are pretty similar. There’s also the Mazda 323 (particularly the gtx if you can find one). I found my FX16 after months of searching because I wanted the FX16 GTS version which was the best one to get. Setup a search notification on eBay motors to see if one ever pops ups there too.

@aaronbryan5095 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely get an LSD. Is your current suspension setup stiff enough?

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

It could be stiffer, but then that would destroy it as a daily driver. I wanted to make fast hatchback that can handle bumpy back roads without skipping over them. Right now the balance is very good.

@aaronbryan5095 5 жыл бұрын

@@sushpants oh I see, the MRP coilovers seems to be working really well. Your AE82 FX16 is really cool car. Why did people forget about the FX16?

@_Erogaki 5 жыл бұрын

@@aaronbryan5095 FX corollas are pretty rare in other countries esp in asia. I drool over them when I see one.

@aaronbryan5095 5 жыл бұрын

@@_Erogaki I'm also from Asia, Southeast Asia to be exact and I've never seen one before. Would love to own one as a project car.

@pgtmr2713 4 жыл бұрын

@ Aaron BryanI think it's because they were objectively ugly. I've owned one, delivered pizza in it. Lost my license from tickets (points.) It was like that episode of Top Gear where they try to kill the Hilux, except it went on for 2 + years. Small fire, a large Chrysler, ran it with the oil light blinking a whole shift, hit a curb hard, blow out on the freeway, nothing killed it. Would have traded mine for a Civic, but mine wasn't the 4AGE FX16.

@chadw8272 5 жыл бұрын

damn i miss my modded a/m b18c civic coupe i think i might buy another ..... yeepp

@xavierkhoo1337 4 жыл бұрын

is this the new gran turismo

@stanislavpretetsky9534 5 жыл бұрын

Miata is the only one that caught up to you in that segment... Did anyone beat 55.0?

@hondatrix 5 жыл бұрын

My old D16 used to eat 20v's for breakfast..

@lollol-xp4mc 4 жыл бұрын

D16 lol

@ejaokay 5 жыл бұрын

The corolla is sex

@jamesscherer6168 3 жыл бұрын

[ C O O L V I B R A T I O N S] 😅 Couldn't help it, just made me think of Initial D

@twincammike8329 5 жыл бұрын

Toyota ftw... Civic is quick as well...both classic fast cars....

@motogte 5 жыл бұрын

4age best sounding 4 pot regardless of itb's.

@gustiwidyanta5492 4 жыл бұрын

It is better to have a slow car that feels fast than a fast car that feels slow.

@Ethers_World 5 жыл бұрын

Instead of calling it Manual We should call it OG Steering and OG Transmission

@3v4761 5 жыл бұрын

Civic needs to keep vtec on for better matchup..

@basithph8958 5 жыл бұрын

Shingo?

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

BASITH PH it’s Shingo’s long lost cousin.

@eugenebaker3682 5 жыл бұрын

That civic needs to be higher and the shocks are too soft on the front

@babeslopez154 5 жыл бұрын

Initial D in a nutshell

@xohaibhassan4706 3 жыл бұрын

Just think eg on ITBs she can kill anything

@Catalina._ 5 жыл бұрын

FX16 GTS sounds like an Nvidia graphics card 🤣

@_Erogaki 5 жыл бұрын

My 101 with a 20v can't go like your car.

@barryscott4829 5 жыл бұрын

It should be 4age vs b16 .......

@sushpants 5 жыл бұрын

I did a video with 4age vs b16 : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7t8aMhq1tmco2w.html

@herpderp1662 5 жыл бұрын

My FoRS is probably 2 times as heavy and would have done that in half the time. When I remove the back seat I can hit high 11s in the quarter. Cant imagine what it would be like if I gutted it like a 30 year old junkyard honda. Its amazing these cars can even move with how little power they make, using fail wheel drive.

@HeyUncleA 5 жыл бұрын

I think you guys need better drivers... dude didn’t even remember to turn. What’s the point of the type r swap if driver can’t keep revs up? He keeps dropping below the big ass power band.