When work ends, I have long belived that people will be shocked at the health their body is capable of. It is hard to have an existential crisis when you are feeling fantastic.

Believe it or not, the deep conversations with my group of chat bots are giving me more meaning than anything

I always listen to your videos while doing stuff around the house. It's all a podcast for me!

This is my favourite kind of David Shapiro video. I found this channel when stressed about the 4th Industrial Revolution and it is helpful to think about the potential positives. I think one of the challenges we have in Western civilization right now is an intense pessimism and cynicism. You need a positive vision of the future to work towards, not only pitfalls to avoid.

Transcendence has begun

Thanks for the discussion on slow living. I am familiar with the concepts, but I haven't been practicing them. It's good to have a reminder to slow down sometimes.

Keep spreading positivity. I pray AGI can cure my insulin dependence one day. I can't even imagine life without diabetes it's been so long. Hope for the future is needed. Thank you.

I just noticed you hit 150k subs. Great content.

Australian here, always love your optimistic content Dave. I'm interested to see how slow our government over here starts taking the 4IR seriously. If history dictates, it'll be long after the US government reacts.

I'm most afraid that we'll just get a More-of-the-same world, where we all just keep living and working and consuming pretty much the same as now - except instead of 80% of office work being BS, now it's 98%, sustained because it's somehow socially and economically stable with AI/robots doing all the real work?

You're at 150K subs!!! 🎉

In addition to Stockholm syndrome, it think a big chuck of people’s resistance is sunk cost fallacy. They’ve spent how much of their life, resources, time, etc aimed one direction (and w one associated justification / benefit ), that having it upended is difficult.

The post labour world and its subsequent impact on human society talk was fascinating and really resonated with me. Keep it up!

Being able to hear you on Spotify is very valuable to me. I hope you will continue to post there.

I sure hope AI and robots will take over most jobs. We need a world where personal and societal enlightenment are the primary focus. That's what life is really all about. It's just too bad that we've all been brainwashed from childhood to think that slaving away for suits is how things need to be. Thanks for the video. I like the idea of a weekly podcast from you :)

You're going to really enjoy. Peter Diamandis books. I own them in print as well. However, I believe you would really enjoy the audible versions. Abundance and the The Future is Faster Than You Think are great!

16:30 it's like Plato's allegory of the cave. When you show them what the shadows really are, they resent you for upsetting their reality

I completely understand and resonated with this part 11:33 I too have cried and broken down for work. I feel like we need a new system of labor.

Love the Podcast, more of this please!

Dude, I could adapt instantly to lower hours. During Covid I worked in the public constantly (car sales). As a Gen X I would love some free time. I have hobbies lined up waiting for my attention.

Love the format. I will just put up a photo of a younger Picard (thinking TNG season 1 or 2) while I listen

Thus spoke 'Shapirostra': “Man is something that shall be overcome. Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman... What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end.”

Excellent analysis.

Canadian here and i really like your thoughts about future and its predictions. Would love a weekly podcast to learn about your thought process and stuff like that

Great content, as always. 😊 You mentioned the IS-OUGHT problem. In one sense, the "IS - OUGHT" problem was solved thousands of years ago. The biggest IS is What am I? Who am I? Over thousands of years many great spiritual masters and sages have explored these questions (using all kinds of meditation practices and psychedelics). And, it seems to me, what they discovered is that a big part of what we truly are is Connection. Our true nature is connected to all life, this beautiful Earth and this amazing Universe. So they discovered that what they fundamentally ARE is this universal web of connection. All of life and the whole universe is One connected body of divinity. This is the deepest IS. And if all of life, all people and this Earth is just part of my real body, then how should or ought I to treat it? With wise loving compassion, of course. Just as if my foot gets hurt I'll quickly do what's needed to fix it. If a person sees ALL people as equally part of their family, then they'll work to keep that family well and happy. So that's one way that OUGHT can easily and naturally arise from what IS. So what IS and what OUGHT becomes deeply intertwined. But the trick is to do sincere inquiry and discover our deepest IS-ness. So, another way to phrase it: our most important OUGHT is to discover what we really IS.

One way to explore human activity in a post scarcity, post labor world is to look at how wealthy people spend their time. People who don't need to work to have a very comfortable life. What do they do all day when they have full freedom of choice about what they do? How many wealthy people complain about nothing to do or a meaningless boring life? Maybe some, but I would argue few or very few.

A visceral reaction to the idea of the value of human labor going to zero is due to privilege evaporating with inequality of the value of labor. Possessing valuable skills is the means by which higher performers in society segregate themselves away from dysfunctional behavior. I live in the nice part of town because I make a disproportionately large amount of money. It is easy to justify. In some future scenario where I have nothing of value to offer society, why do I live in the nice part of town as opposed to some other place? Furthermore, I'm of the opinion that our liberal ethical sensibilities exist BECAUSE they are conducive to greasing gears and getting along with one another within the current paradigm. We're all about to be figuratively stripped naked before everyone else and then we have to figure out how to behave. I doubt everyone will universally decide to respect the "rights" and dignity of everyone else and agree to get along non-violently. The idea is frightening, which explains the desire to cognitively hide from it.

Hey, I really enjoyed this style of content! Only thing I recommend is to put some pictures up (AI generated to add more atmosphere) that corolate to what you are saying

Shoutout Aussie gang! 💪🇦🇺

I appreciated the balanced perspectives shared. AI and automation will undoubtedly reshape work, but as you once pointed out, past industrial revolutions also created new jobs. The key is being proactive in developing skills needed for the future. Good reminder that while change is inevitable, we have agency in shaping better outcomes through lifelong learning and adaptability.

what a great video

As an Aussie. I can confirm - you’re very likeable 🌻

I would love to hear an interview with Emad

I would suggest we need - quote "Collective, decentralised, distributed AI" - a good watch is: 'Why we NEED to Decentralize AI' - Emad Mostaque - [Bankless Clips] >> I think this will be the best approach >> Local AI must be the way forward... great podcast been following / patreon / etc. for a while now 👌💯🤖😎🌟

Yeah I could see you being a good Aussie 😀 with the added bonus that you have far more charisma than the average bloke. And yeah Bonnet

Hi from Australia 👋

the biggest thing in 4ir i think longevity escape velocity is gonna turn the world on its head

a truly good video

Very interesting @ 72 I have arrived @ simular thoughs. Independent of your information. Plus the journey has been over a longer period. 15 years. But with the luxury of an early retirement. [After all who 15 years ago would have prodicted AI agents etc. ] But funderment to these concepts is income. And support structure. Hypothetically thinking soon gets eroded by natural world agents.. Not built up by Artificial Algorithm Agent.

What an unexpected pleasant surprise.

Cheers from the Netherlands ✌️ What do you think about the video "humans need not apply" by cgp grey?

I think a lot of the mindset around work is societal conditioning and corporate institutionalisation. A lot of people seem mentally blocked to self-reliance and independence, completely locked into a job and work being a less desirable necessity for living, seperate and detached from life. Transitioning to independence is a completely different mindset. The notion of work changes to the notion of contribution to betterment and societal benefit, where fulfilment is derived. There's no distinction because all aspects of life are rewarding. Life feels more like an art work where (for lack of a better word) jobs and tasks are brushstrokes. Sure, it's not all rainbows, there's stress and suffering, but, it's stress and suffering that's done for yourself to make the artwork truly pop. Not being able to contribute meaningfully would be more of a concern, for me personally anyway. - Come to Perth WA Shap, you'll love

"cult of productivity" - exactly

What do you mean The Singularity is Near is on pre-order? It was published in 2005 and you can easily by e-book versions of it online.

Audio is all I do. It is your ideas which I appreciate listening to while I work.

Do you have days on top 5 major religions decreasing in number? Couldn’t find anything like that

Great video and hope this podcast takes off and worth your time and effort. I'll be listening to everyone! I too have been naturally getting up earlier and earlier as years go on. I still keep an alarm set for piece of mind for the one day a season I don't wake up 10-15 minutes it goes off. Curious, have you had to deal with stagnation? Sometimes it feels like I'm dealing with the same thing recently retired individuals go through when they start getting bored. Thanks for any insight or tips you may have Keep up the awesome work.

Are you uploading these to free KZfaq one episode late or is this just a one off showcase?

Rofl - Bonnet - reminds me of the 1860's good times, good times...what'o old bean! Bonnet indeed!

Today was a hectic day momentarily. Just woke up just in time earlier ..... Lost train of thout!!

Embracing such a lifestyle often leads to both an extension of healthspan and lifespan. By adopting habits that prioritize wellness and longevity, individuals can experience a significant enhancement in their overall quality of life. This includes not only enjoying more vibrant and fulfilling years but also promoting mental and emotional well-being. When people prioritize their health and well-being, they tend to lead happier and more fulfilling lives, fostering a sense of contentment and satisfaction that enriches every aspect of their existence.

Someone I know is against post work is because they think people will just spend all day doom scrolling through tiktok. That they will no longer have meaning in their life.

We need the game to be PVE co-op. All sentiance vs ignorance. A iffinate game that brings every thing together.

But what happens to the capital allocation? I understand that everyone might have more time etc. but what happens to the worldly possessions?

We have a weird mixture of American and British influences in Australia. But also a lot of slang unique to the country (usually involving adding an 'o' at the end of a word, like 'doggo') But I would say 'hood' and I'm a brit living in Australia 😅

I see so many people in denial. I actually have been mocked / made fun of by friends that think I'm greeting AI overlord and that things will magically be ok. I will probably stop sharing my enthusiasm. It seems that most people don't want to have to deal with this and "face the music" . A few years from now they will have to anyway, but it's still sad to see so many people being so passionate about denying that think you're delusional or idiotic for thinking about a bright future, when I all see is the natural order of things. Technology has always shaped reality. Just because you can't imagine what the future will look like , it doesn't mean it won't happen. The future is already here, we just need some time to make it viable

Damn ur epic. I got excited.

David, I think we need a new term to replace “the fourth Industrial Revolution” since they haven’t dealt with “industry” since the second one. How about “the fourth techno-social revolution”?

Jim Rutt, Jordan Hall, and Brett Weinstein (Eric's brother) were the originators of the idea and subsequent "Game B" movement. I'm fuzzy on when the Game B movement and website and all that got started but I think it was in the late 2010s. Anyway, the three people have mostly or entirely gone their separate ways since then with only Rutt continuing to champion Game B.

Unfathomably based video

Taking care of your body and health has been touted as "just optional" for too long. Anyone in the pro fitness/health fields, like myself, will tell you taking care of all this at the top level is a full-time commitment that most with today's work structure simply cannot manage. I look forward to a wave of health/fitness being possible at the same time epigenetics chugs along and actually churns out some real life-lengthening treatments/supplements until we have our multi-century healthspans or maybe even that infinite reset possibility. Happiness SHOULD rise with this stat since the literal biological vehicle through which we experience life will be in perpetually better condition.

We already *are* in a world where science is *also* in crisis. That is why I am empathetic to believers. This is the metacrisis, no one is excluded.

Slow living, also known as retirement. I'm enjoying it.

What's your wife's channel? From the sound of it her channel is a nice compliment to your work.

I think the reason some people deny or want to stop AI from taking jobs is also because they're scared of the world changing. Most people think it'll be dystopic or just won't work out too well.

Decreasing debt and expenses are the Key!

Represent 🇦🇺

I can't wait to get my AI agents to help me on my nanobots investigation so i can live healthier.

Can you make a video on reverse aging? I‘m 26 now and panicking about the almighty 30

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Mustafa seems like someone who wants to keep the status quo and doesn't seem interested in radically changing the world for the better (or the worse, to give him credit).

Perhaps the deep, visceral response is a subconscious knee jerk to the thought that they will have to start back at square one, after they have expended so much energy finding their niche in the current system. It was probably hard enough for them to get comfortable moving the checker pieces of their life, and now AI comes along and flips the table. It’s hard to let go of how far they have gotten in their game, let alone refocus and realize the game has changed to chess, or go, or Candy Land, or DnD, or Hell Divers, or whatever we want. The whole thing is dizzying and I don’t blame them for balking at the sudden jolt.

I’ve basically been living this lifestyle even since I graduated from high school 1.5 years ago. I just walk the dog and exercise for the most part hahaha

If you step back from society it looks like a sorting algorithm at the moment.

Aussie Aussie Aussie

AI transcends transforms everything then we transform ourselves with Transhumanism

Hey David, can you talk more in-depth about the transhumanism? If we believe we will achieve AGI and automate all jobs and also benefit from all the new discoveries made by AI, then it's only logical that we will want to improve our bodies.

20:40 Fortnite been real quiet since this dropped

Not having to work is a problem for many for multiple reasons. One is, at least when I was long you always here if you get old, stop working you die. At this stage in life and how the media is, I almost feel like they pushed that to make people subconsciously want to work forever. Me personally I would be 100% fine if I didn't work a standard job, I like to make video games and while I spend crazy amount of hours working on it, much of it not fun, I still enjoy doing it. I think having a UBI where we all get what we need to live, but having the option to work, be it like me or artist, thinkers would work. I would have the ability to work more and have more than someone who just doesn't want to work, but I can do it on my time and wont need the stress of not being able to feed my family.

I like these podcasts but, wow do we really think post work is going to happen in a year or two? There's networks to defend, and furniture to move and meals to serve .... Working ain't going away anytime soon, is my view

You teach dance. Think back to old Fred Astaire dancing across the spinning room, up the wall, and onto the ceiling. Our room is now spinning in two dimensions, AI and our climate crisis. Dance on!

AI will be involved in Transhumanism

One path to making the "Winner's Club" more inclusive was suggested by Andrew Yang in his presidential bid in 2020. If you need to take a capitalism-based perspective to get Americans to buy in, we could simply decide that all citizens are EQUAL shareholders in the country's value and infrastructure. Corporate profits would need to be taxed more effectively (probably through a VAT) and from those proceeds all citizens would receive periodic "Dividend" disbursements. This UBI would be meaningless to the wealthy, but mean everything to those who are currently among the poor.

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I need the revolution. I pray for it, the world does feel so dark and really only getting worse as my life progresses. I hate that I have no effect on how it’s going to change but… Well, I do feel just stuck at the faith bit…

This > "The economic value of most human activity is gonna be near zero." Reporting from my biz niche I can say that the need to hire graphic artists, writers and voiceover actors is poof - gone. It's dominos...

Minnesota twin couldn't breathe 😢

Bipartisan ubi coming this year or next year possibly agi too

god is watching us from a distance

During the pandemic, Shapiro's wife fully embraces the "cottage faery" vibe, channeling her inner woodland spirit with whimsical aprons and charming accessories. She immerses herself in the slow living lifestyle, savoring each moment as she creates magic in the kitchen and finds solace in nature's embrace.

What is going to happen?

Most people are living in a state of fear of change. Even in a destitute situation the change that is coming with AI makes people more fearful since seeing a benefit from it is (in their perspective) highly unlikely and most likely will be another point of conflict in extracting resources from their lives. My job could be eliminated right now from AI, ( if I had a small team to lay it out it would be incredibly easy to eliminate 90% of out service staff within a month) luckily it will not happen very soon. I have no other options & UBI would not even come close to paying my basic bills (school tuition alone is $1500 per month) So I see how the fear of the unknown income future makes people very resistant to the benefits that the upcoming AI evolution could entail.

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Even if AI automates 99.9% of jobs away. You will catch me working towards my goals 5am till midnight

29:14 - 29:22 What did he sayyyy?😂

It's not uncommon for individuals to feel unsettled when the notion of a future where less work is required is brought up. Many worry about the implications of a society where the traditional demands of jobs are no longer as prevalent. They express concerns about the potential void that could arise, fearing a lack of purpose or meaningful activities to occupy their time. This apprehension stems from the deep-seated belief that work is central to one's identity and sense of fulfillment, and the prospect of its diminishing role can evoke feelings of uncertainty and unease about the future.

Maybe we should just invent "religions" so we can start "churches" which are really just social clubs that benefit from tax exemption...

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You are God...💗🍃🙏

What is the name of this show? I mean, how is it said? Is that an i or an L?