Bike fit Tuesdays always circle around the same points, yet I'm still learning stuff each time. This is a great public service!
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
Yes there is always the underlying message to avoid formulaic methods and the importance of getting a good bike fit before buying!
@ultraruna3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, had my 56 cm Tarmac sl nicked awhile ago, just replaced it with a second hand 54 cm frame (from a mate). Built up with spare stuff. Its the most comfortable bike Ive ridden. I will pay more attention to James and his bike fit advice from now on as he is spot on advising a smaller frame.
@the.communist Жыл бұрын
Many folks say: if you wanna be relaxed n comfy on the bike go for a size up. I disagree.
@milanb.60223 жыл бұрын
Most KZfaq bike fitters: Try to appear serious while spouting complete nonsense James: Goofs about while spreading true knowledge Once again proof that the less important something appears to be, the more important it probably is
@dafred98983 жыл бұрын
James going to bike shops and doing a "Gordan Ramsey" review of bike fitting, what could be more perfect than that?
@dallaslukacsi93133 жыл бұрын
Hells Fitting!!!
@AndrewBlucher3 жыл бұрын
Except for Gordon Ramsey.
@RyonBeachner3 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to think of a bike fit equivalent of lamb sauce.
@milanb.60223 жыл бұрын
I'd finance it on bike fit shark tank
@yinyangbikepackingadventur46063 жыл бұрын
@@RyonBeachner cleat position?
@rebeccalowery85683 жыл бұрын
Can we hear James’ story on starting his own business? It’d be super interesting to hear how people can make a living through their passions!
@alextaylor75753 жыл бұрын
Yes, I second this. I'd find this interesting
@robwhite79763 жыл бұрын
beck lowery 100%!
@JK-im9ij3 жыл бұрын
I second this too! :)
@arguello13 жыл бұрын
100%
@anthonyhomercycling3 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing you are all new to this channel? 😉 Scroll to old vids
@JimDenham3 жыл бұрын
The big bike issue could have gotten me had I NOT bought my bike from a bike shop. The bike companies would have had me more in a 54 based on height, but the 52 they had on hand, which the guys initially thought was too small, turned out to be perfect because my inseam was shorter. Ordering online would have resulted in a bike that was too big! Good tips!
@medrict3 жыл бұрын
1) Saddle height 2) Reach is too long 3) Handlebars too wide 4) Shoes too big 5) Bike is too big
@Bayo1063 жыл бұрын
I think I have all these issues 😪
@iannixey87793 жыл бұрын
Yep me to! 😒
@thedistance11553 жыл бұрын
Number 2 and 4 is my problem I think
@papagatorackspanner3 жыл бұрын
Basically, everyone is playing billy big-baws. At 5'7"/172cm you'd have thought I would have the issue with my size and be wearing the loose t-shirts. But it sounds like everyone has to get over the issue.
@CycoWarriorx3 жыл бұрын
After going my first year and half without a proper bike fit, I thought the pain and discomfort was part of the process. Had the wrong sized shoes too. Got fitted (and refitted to a new bike) and got the right sized pair of shoes; life is good. I’m such an advocate the first thing I tell anyone asking about road cycling is to get a bike fit AND clarifying that a bike fit isn’t from the guy who sold you the Bike telling you you look good on it. Lol 🍻
@serotta5293 жыл бұрын
Spot on. At 5’ 10” also, I have consistently opted for smaller frames than most manufacturers recommend - typically 53/54. Thanks for affirming I’m not crazy!
@arne_mh3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I'm 6'0" and a lot of manufacturers recommend a 58, my legs are really long and even with a 56 felt like I had to do some straight up yoga on bike, luckily a short stem fixed that....
@marcvaldez91633 жыл бұрын
Hey guys what roadbike size would you recommend me btw im 5'9 ???
@K777John3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I had a bike fit on my first bike which was a 56-I was advised by the fitter that although I was managing the bike ok it was at the outer edge of adjustment and as I got older and stiffer would be to big. I should add that I am 5ft 9in with 32in inside leg, and was 69 when I had the fit. I am 72 now and ride a 54-with an 80mm stem-bike is very comfy to ride, 100 mile days no problem.
@marcvaldez91633 жыл бұрын
@@K777John ohh i see so soze 54 is good for a 5'9 rider ....because here in the philippines its so hard to find a size 54 up frames they all end up to size 52 because not all asians are tall so i am having a hard time but i found a size 54 frameset from mosso hope to build it soon
@Bayo1063 жыл бұрын
I'm 5ft10 and my with my 54 I still feel like I'm stretching or reaching. my saddle is likely a little high and handle bars too wide
@daihatsu78692 жыл бұрын
Watched this morning before going for a short-ish ride (37km) - flipped my stem, dropped the saddle, moved it forwards (also applied some toe-in to my levers) - what a difference. Much more comfortable. Glad I watched the video, as it'll make Nighrider London much more comfortable next weekend!
@thompson94513 жыл бұрын
About to fly to London just to have this man fit me
@andrewtang72163 жыл бұрын
Love the energy and passion that you guys bring to your channel. Because of your videos, I've been able to get a bike that fits me properly 2nd time round! Been riding a gravel bike in a L (60) for the best part of 16 months and ooooh what a journey it’s been. Sizing came about from the old school “height = bike size” chart gubbins. Bike salesman says you’re a large (I’m 5’11 - 6ft on a good day). You think everything is rosy, pedal about on it for 2 mins to check all is good, pay your money and roll out of the store. Oh how wrong was I…. I felt like I was beaten up every time I rode it. You name it, I suffered from it. Numb undercarriage/neck/shoulder/numb hands/hot foot/lower back pain, over stretched. Everything under the sun. Even bought a cut out saddle (helped a little) and changed the stem to a slightly shorter one but alas, it was money poured down the drain. Enough was enough, cut my losses and sold the bike last month before I did any lasting damage to myself. Because of these brilliant BFT videos I've now got a bike that actually fits me (54 (S) endurance bike).
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@thebikepackingadventurer3 жыл бұрын
James is a legend, I have wasted money on 2 other fits years ago, felt good until putting power down outside over distance. Went to James and never felt so good on a bike. Highly recommend
@nigelatkinson29393 жыл бұрын
I have found your videos incredibly informative. As I result I totally changed the setup of my 56cm Cannondale Synapse. Two weeks ago I bought a 54cm BMC Roadmachine and I am a very happy bunny.
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@ronalddriver86283 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’4”, worked 20+ years in bike shops, and agree 1000% that people get bikes too big. The biggest problem I saw was with shorter riders. Most bike shops have average to tall riders and most can’t relate to smaller rider needs. Most of my fittings resulted in installing a shorter stem and, possibly, shorter reach and narrower handlebars. However, much like the Uber tall peeps, most bike brands don’t do small frames justice. In the mid-90’s I rode the smallest bike my shop offered… a 50cm Cannondale which had a 525mm TT with 110-120mm stem and big reach and drop bars! Now I’m on a 46cm with a 510mm TT and 80-100mm stem (depending on my flexibility, how I’ve been feeling, etc) and short reach and shallow drop bars. Also, a lot of shops set up their bikes on the floor with stem in the “7” position. When I had my shop, I had the bikes set up in the most upright position.
@Bu5t3R3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that James said he’s 5’10 and rides a 53. I am 5’10 like James and I’ve been riding a 56 for the past 11 years because it was my first road bike that I bought just for a charity ride. For years I’ve slowly changed things out and made small adjustments until I feel I got close to perfect for my size. Couldn’t do it anymore. I went and looked at a 53, took it for a spin, I loved it! It was an 8 year old Wilier so I considered it but then decided on a new bike. Every person in the bike shops when I told them the 53 felt perfect gave me a look and said that’s too small! I ended up getting a 54 because the size runs 52-54-56. So glad I went smaller. Now I need to get my saddle right.
@DougTheSnowMan3 жыл бұрын
My 53 is seeming to large for me, Im also 5 10, but my Frame has a 54.5 top tube and 3t bars with a 110 stem, so it may just be a reach issue. Can't reach the levers in the drops...
@Bu5t3R3 жыл бұрын
@@DougTheSnowMan my 56 had a 120 stem and I switched it out for a 100 and the problem I ran into is that it’s still a little too much reach, trouble reaching the brakes from the drop and I still have to move my hands back from the hoods. Plus it changes the geometry too much. My plan is now that I got a bike that fits me a lot better I’m going to take the old bike apart and rebuild it with proper components to make it a work of art that will be right at home amongst my other bikes.
@echtogammut3 жыл бұрын
Frame size is a bad way of measuring a bike. You can take a dozen 56 bikes and measure their ETT and they will be widely different. It's more important to get fitted on a jig and then compare your ideal measurements to bike geometry measurements (almost always available on manufacture websites). Pick the size and geo that either matches or is smaller than ideal, rather than worry about if it is a 53,54,55 or 56.
@Bu5t3R3 жыл бұрын
@@echtogammut point is that it’s not one size fits all. I bought my bike based on size first and then fit. I took it out for a ride before deciding on it. The bike shops all kept saying 56 and that the 53 Wilier was too small. I said it’s like shoes... not all brands fit your feet the same way and one companies 11 is another’s 10.5. I’m not racing or taking myself too serious so my bike allows me to be fast enough for enjoyment and comfortable enough for the long rides I love to put in.
@AndrewBlucher3 жыл бұрын
@@echtogammut Yes, many brands use ETT now but not everyone. It's the only measure that makes sense with compact frames.
@sifi79503 жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear your/James’ thoughts regarding road bs gravel bike set up!
@neal91513 жыл бұрын
Something I wondered about was how much bike fitting affects comfort and handling and is there a point where you have to say you need a different sized bike - in the context of a higher saddle height may allow more flex for comfort, and a shorter/longer stem or wider bars may allow more or less control depending upon the use of the bike; such as a gravel bike. Or are these things quite minor. Love the bike fit videos with James - he is a total star!
@natezier74813 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video with James where there's a deep dive into getting the right size of bike. This is a problem I've had looking at bikes. I sit right around 6'0", slightly shorter arms. I've ridden everything between 54-58 with varied comfort. So, how do you make sure the geometry is right for you. What do you look for on that bikes geometry chart?
@marcelnali3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I'm 6'0" but the majority of my height is in the torso. All the bike shops want to put me on a 56 and if I ever suggest trying a 54 they look at me as if I had two heads. The 55 I ended up with has finally been adjusted (by me) to where I think it fits well, (changed the bars from 42 to 40), but 55 is rare and if I wanted a new bike, I wonder what I would do?
@AndrewBlucher3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelnali Firstly, specify whether you are measuring Seat Tube or Top Tube. Effective top tube is almost ubiquitous, but not quite, because with current compact frames its the most limiting measurement. Next, if you are taking an off the peg frame and are between sizes, take the smaller one. Between seat setback and stem length changes it can be set up to fit. You can't easily make a big frame smaller. Third option is custom build. Not cheap but not as expensive as some might imagine. The main drawbacks apart from price are the time it takes, and that you have so many choices. So many. Cheers.
@theripper121 Жыл бұрын
@@Nastyhabitz Really argee with you here. I got into riding at the height of the pandemic and supply issues. I was able to find a bike I could actually afford and using the manufactures suggested sizing and being the only size available for that model put me into a 58 and I think I really would have been served better with a 56.
@nagylevi38272 жыл бұрын
I got two rules in life: when your tailor is done with your pants measurements, have him add another centimeter to the length and when the guy in the shop is done with your bike fitting, go down one size on the frame. Great video. I've made all these mistakes over the years and have the knee pain to prove it. If your video spares even a single rider of such pain, your work will have been worth it.
@aljaliah68683 жыл бұрын
No high amount of RED BULL was consumed before the shooting of this video , James is just naturally this hyper (passionate). He did mine in a different era and a different location and if there is such a thing as perfect then his work comes pretty close. I cannot recommend enough to have a bikefit and although the several changes that can be made (millimetres) but you will feel the difference in the way you are literally moulded onto and around your bike and also the comfort that produces when doing longer rides.
@Fit1stbuylater3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Glad to hear it 🤟🏻
@andrewlucero35533 жыл бұрын
I have been lowering my saddle height a few mm every few rides and have been seeing benefits. Bike Fit Tuesday videos are what brought me to your channel. If I was in the UK I'd be bringing him bike fit business.
@waisinglee15093 жыл бұрын
Last year, I went to a professional bike fitter here in SG before buying a bike. I had a bike in mind but he looked at me, looked at the geometry chart of the bike and said no, it was too big for me. Bummer! So, I brought up my second choice. He looked at the chart and said I was a size 50 (XS). The bike's designer/manufacturer's chart said I should buy a 52 (S) according to my height. I was skeptical but I ordered the frameset in. When it arrived and I took it out of the box I was shocked at how tiny it was! The shop built it up and it fits me perfectly! So glad that I went to him now because if I had followed the recommendation...ugh!
@billinhouston32913 жыл бұрын
These are the only videos in all of KZfaq that I watch at 1.0 speed. James is dropping knowledge like, uhhh, a peloton dropping water bottles before a big climb?
@adammillsindustries.3 жыл бұрын
Sik video man. At 5’7” I thought I was medium 54. I know companies have their varied same sizes which are different but after years found 51 52’s were actually my correct size. The racers like a small frame and longer stem.
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
That sounds about right!
@andreasd24043 жыл бұрын
Obviously its different from bike to bike but as someone who is 173 myself but with long arms and short legs (gorilla physics) i have a 54 supersix with a 120 stem. I can ride it pretty okay and do so for 7000km a year without pain. I still know its too big since i tested a 51 supersix from a friend some months ago and it immediately felt at home.... So yeha 51 is the way to go for my next bike in a few years
@adammillsindustries.3 жыл бұрын
@@andreasd2404 My fitter got me the best I can on 54. Lucky I have long arms & I’m flexible plus fitted 170 cranks with narrower bars, I seem to be flying though still but fancy a new 52 frame after Christmas.
@leepantsify3 жыл бұрын
"Your Saddle is Too High Tuesdays"
@FPL_Drago3 жыл бұрын
Completely correct. I'm 6'2" and I'm a medium. Started off as a large. I still have that bike and it is HUGE. Definitely get a fit first. Can't recommended enough so you don't waste money in the long run.
@tdougs773 жыл бұрын
When I got into road bikes 5-6 years ago, I went to a very very well known major bike brand shop. They said I could fit on a 56cm frame if I wanted that bike. I ended up buying a 54cm from them as aa ride selected preference. I now ride a 51cm and I wish I been on this size so much earlier. I just went on the advice of the store/their qualified fitters!
@benjaminpohl3 жыл бұрын
Just for context, how tall are you?
@tdougs773 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminpohl 175cm
@andrewallen99183 жыл бұрын
I’m currently looking at getting a gravel bike; Ridley seems to be the only one suggesting I fit a 51 equivalent or XS in their sizing; everyone else advises a 54 or small; I’m leaning to the small but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. I know when I owned a Cervelo in a 54 2007/8 model that it always felt a bit big so look at geo a little bit smaller than that. What’s your inseam?
@tdougs773 жыл бұрын
@@andrewallen9918 30 inch. shorter upper body. I think.
@andrewallen99183 жыл бұрын
@@tdougs77 Thanks. I’m 173cm and 29.5inch so we’re almost the same proportions.
@cycling20053 жыл бұрын
If your quads are sore after a big effort, and your hamstrings and glutes are not, your seat is too high. The ideal spot is when all 3 muscle groups work/fatigue equally. Agree most people fitted in bike shops are 20mm too high. Have spent the last 30 years thinking I knew how to set my saddle height. Recently went to a highly skilled fitter with back and knee pain, who dropped my seat 22mm. Feels very strange initially, but all my asymmetries, aches and pains are gone and I have more power. I would put cleats too far forward before shoes being too big as a common mistake. There is very little to no downsides to getting the cleats as far back in the shoes as they will physically go. If the seat goes down as well you don't lose the ability to spin a good cadence.
@kevinfrost15793 жыл бұрын
Every word a gem. Get the knowledge and expertise for years of comfortable trouble free riding - invest in that before you buy. Riding smiles equals riding miles. Thanks guys awesome video, IMHO the best summary of top practice out there. Bravo.
@buffalomind68383 жыл бұрын
Imagine riding for two decades to finally realize what you instinctively felt about the size of bike someone else said was correct because of your particular height isn’t necessarily true. Thanks guys for lending confidence to us who for whatever reason choose to allow someone else to dictate how something ought to be done. Sure if everyone functioned optimally with the same gear well this video would not be needed. Cheers!
@markjthomson3 жыл бұрын
Interesting comment about manufacturers sizing... yes, I've learned a "medium" could be anything from too small to legs swinging free of pedals too large... almost as bad as bottom bracket standards!
@matthiasbrock63813 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this channel, very helpful. For me however, the opposite of James's favorite tips was true. I had my saddle put up by 2 cm, my reach extended, and stem "slammed" by 3cm at a bike fit. Oh, just to tick some boxes: Longer stem as well. This did the trick in easing my lower back pain and feeling more comfortable on the bike. Weird, but I guess this just shows how tricky and unique bike fitting is and that basically everybody should get one.
@Bigsbeee3 жыл бұрын
Many banging on about James said he is 5'-10'' and rides a 53. Well as he has previously said many so called 53cm frames won't have a damn single tube that measures 53cm. I heard him also say if he was to purchase an off the shelf ..Specialized, Trek etc. he would opt for a small or 52 despite their fitting chart advising 54 even 56. I'm same height and inseam as James and rode far too big a frame in the 80's ..Cinelli 22-1/2'' Bugger all pillar showing. Gone smaller and smaller over the year's until my latest gravel bike a 2018 Diverge I choose a 52. Man it looks like a kid's bike un-built. But experimented with stem length, saddle height and gone down to 170 cranks, cleats slammed back, It just feels right. Can't thank these two guy's enough for their time and passion. I too will get to James next year despite thinking I'm pretty close already.
@rsucesso3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I am 180 cm riding a Diverge 54 with 120mm stem and 170mm cranks with cleats almost fully behind. My friends all insisted that I should get a 56 but I feel fine.
@davidmellor56053 жыл бұрын
Got my 1st bike this week in manchester and cant wait. I like that ‘if you feel you are over reaching you most definitely are’ Im definitely over reaching so looking forward to sorting that out
@michaelquinlan4817 Жыл бұрын
"If I just spend all my time telling you what I know, it's impossible for me to learn anything." A little quote I try to live by. I'm always a little uneasy when people have this much confidence, that they have all the anwers. I have heard most of what is being said enough times to know that there is a lot of genuine knowledge and experience being shared here, which is to be commended. I just don't think it's right to scare people off trying either other fitters or having a go themselves. Get out there, ride your bike, do your own maintenance, learn some stuff (These guys are great for that!), fit yourself (A video is great to see if you actually look like you think you do.), make some mistakes, love bikes!
@myuserbloodyname3 жыл бұрын
I've always found it odd that a lot of road cyclists are riding a bike too big (or set up as such) and it's only since I built up a 40 year old road frame last year that I now see your reasons why. Growing up on 90's/00's mtb things were kind of the other way round i.e. size down for maneuverability so I seem to have got my sizing figured out on the road... I like to think :)
@wattootang3 жыл бұрын
Saddle height! I couldn't ride more than 30 miles without huge amounts of pain! After watching a previous video on saddle height where James mentioned catching the top tube with one knee, my problem was solved! Apparently now I'm a mileage monster! A cycling game changer for me! Cheers..
@elmerrichardson64133 жыл бұрын
Great video on bike fit blunders and I own a bike from that direct company you're talking about. At 6'5, I got a size XL. I have followed most of James instructions from his bike fit Tuesdays and what he say works! Once I got the seat height and cleat position set, I was good to go. BTW my shoe size is 50. I've tried several shoe sizes less that 50 and returned all of them. Thanks FC and James, keep schooling them!🚲
@daviddawn90436 ай бұрын
This is probably best common sense bike fit video on youtube
@sw64933 жыл бұрын
Dude - Bike Fit Tuesdays with James are the best. Thanks for another one!
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
✌️
@garethjones38063 жыл бұрын
I occasionally suffer from asymmetrical interaction with my toilet seat after a night on the beers. I should lower the seat height.
@stevek88293 жыл бұрын
Not too low, it makes prayer more difficult.
@edmundscycles13 жыл бұрын
Oddly a lower toilet aids in taking a dump as it straightens out the back passage so the poo flows out easier with less bends to navigate . It prevents constipation and possible damage to the anus .
@reldwob223 жыл бұрын
Went from 'finding James very annoying', to 'this guy is a genius', during this video. Subscribed!
@underbikedoverconfident11423 жыл бұрын
While I'm guilty of 2 of the 5 mistakes on my road bike which I did even know were wrong prior to bike fit Tuesdays and now I'm starting to feel the issues (stem too long bars too wide). I actually had pain in my right knee the other day on my MTB which I solved by raising the saddle 10mm so in conclusion bike fitting is hard and we could all do with a bike fit James to help us out.
@halnorwood69783 жыл бұрын
Biggest comfort increases I've had on my bike are 38/36cm bars, the narrower the better - takes all of the pressure off the shoulders and arms. Also ride 2 sizes smaller than 'recommended' as I've always found recommended frame sizes too big. Guilty of 120 neg rise stem however...
@garybird86463 жыл бұрын
They were 10cm stems in 84 James 🙂 and Cinelli was the brand of choice. Some of the newer frames have the right length top tubes but the head tube lengths are way too long.
@benjaminpohl3 жыл бұрын
In my experience, most "medium-sized" bikes (54-56cm) still come with a 10cm stem from the factory.
@andycorso84983 жыл бұрын
Keep preaching boys, some of it will get thru.......eventually 👏
@doitlikeDavedoes3 жыл бұрын
I've been sold bikes too big my whole life and it wasn't until I bought a internet only bike (Canyon) did I get sold a bike that fitted and it truly is something different to ride. I had to take several different measurements not just the old ' whack a level in ya crotch" ! And you can see it in others as you ride around.
@t.c.98383 жыл бұрын
6:42 Absolutely! I'm tall so I was told I need a 62cm frame. On a whim, and because of videos like this, I tried bought a 58cm frame and I am so glad I did. My 62cm frame feels like a 1990s Buick compared to my new 58cm frame which feels zippy and responsive.
@gw73923 жыл бұрын
Worst ever bike fit mistake I’ve seen on this channel is Jame’s moustache whist on his bike.
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
😂
@mcgothbox13 жыл бұрын
Ok this is huge. I just watched this video and made 3 adjustments 1. I lowered my saddle by 20 mil. 2. I made a angle change to my bars. 3 i moved my saddle forward to the middle point of the rails. after which I took a ride and it was like a brand new bike.
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
👊
@terry.hudson3 жыл бұрын
James is like Martin Lewis the financial guy but for bikes. Gets like 1000 great tips into a minute and it's all understandable 😄
@andreyswiesciak-maddox7242 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with #1. I also shortened the crank. Feels much better.
@johnnydoe663 жыл бұрын
My problem was that my bike was purchased for me by a friend. It was a last year's stock, one size too big (I normally ride a 56 and this was a "59" according to Masi), and a final no return purchase. I have managed to make it work perfectly believe it or not. First was a zero offset seatpost, one size shorter stem, and a narrower bar, after all that I have used the advice from James on BFT.....no issues with comfort no matter the mileage ridden. It literally measured out to within an 1/8" to my original bike on reach, but the bar to seat drop was less, but better for me at my age.
@andrewmwylie3 жыл бұрын
Learnt a good fair bit from these recent bike fit/setup videos, every point has sound reasoning behind it. Made some decent changes on a new bike, all for the better. Cheers!
@keithdemaggio23923 жыл бұрын
Bike Fit Tuesday on a Tuesday?
@vikzata3 жыл бұрын
An absolute legend! Pretty good summarization of the things that you've explained many many times. Keep it up!
@XBKLYN2 жыл бұрын
"Opening up the hips, yadda yadda yadda." Love it!
@Hosant1233 жыл бұрын
I watched this to reassure my decision of buying a 53 frame after considering all the specs of the bike and my experience of 55 frames being too big. Yet, all the guides say that I'm a 55. Including a 'bike fit' that I had prior purchasing my 56 roubaix 4 years ago.
@Maxillz3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, turns out James bike shop is at the end of my road! I guess its not too far to travel.
@Osteoandyogi3 жыл бұрын
This I simply the best video for anyone to watch who cycles.......Such great wisdom, as a Osteopath this guys rocks knowledge, stay safe and keep up videos-chaps.
@playandteach3 жыл бұрын
I love words. As a music teacher I believe in the precise word even if it seems to be a complex term as it is sometimes just the right word. James seems to prioritise long words at the expense of simplicity. Long words aren't necessarily more precise than short ones. There's enough going on with bike fit without obfuscating it with jargon. I had a physio who would love to extend the recovery of my Achilles tear with extra complex personal explorations (these were always his own personal explorations, whilst my personal tendon remained personally painful). He ended up using Ultrasound to support his ultrawords to burn my tendon to destruction. Keeping it as clear as possible helps more people.
@ConstructMTL3 жыл бұрын
I was guilty of a few of these, until i got my bike fitted by a pro... My saddle went down, my handlebar went down, and my seat went forward. I'm also using a shorter track crank (165mm)
@jiboo68503 жыл бұрын
me too i was riding a bike that was off for me. my chance was when i found that the frame + saddle + saddle height and tilt were right for me (48 + 70cms SH i'm 5'7). at least i got that. but the stem was too short and too low. and my handlebars were too wide. 44 that i changed for 40. my saddle was too far behind too. so from a 48 frame + -6° 100mm stem + 44 handlebars + saddle too far back >to> 48 frame + 120mm with 35° rise + 40mm handlebars + saddle about in the middle of the rails. i took the right decision to stop cycling 2 weeks before the fitting to feel more incline to accept the drastic change. if you ride the days before, any small change will be perceived as huge and will make you uncomfortable. which is counter productive for the fitting and the fitter. i wanted to be able to stick to what he achieved for me. i prepared my mind to accept the change. the thing that jumped into my face when i rode my bike after the fitting was how easy i was clipping the cleats. the pedal was right where it should be and clipped right away. i'm not searching for it like before. the other problem i had was the weird feeling i had in the climbs. sitted i was not happy at all, i couldn't put the ower down. now i feel like i can put the power down no matter where i am. i really do feel connected. handling in the corners is like papa into mama. my weight is well distributed on the wheels. if you put a scale under each wheel, i'm sure i'd be close to 50/50 balance.
@robertbloxham78253 жыл бұрын
"you could poach a salmon in that"... that's going to keep me laughing all day!... brilliant vid! 👍👍
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks Robert
@MatthewLenton Жыл бұрын
I bought the 2022 Raleigh Centros ebike and I had to buy it online as no shop locally had it in stock Different types of bikes have different size requirements from what I've seen online and for EBikes it confirmed what I was advised. I spoke to the retailer and Raleigh and they said because I'm 6'2" that I need the 56cm one so I ordered it It turns out it was too big and the saddle was already at it's lowest and so I'm having to send it back for the 52cm one Someone said in a Facebook group I'm in that Raleigh bikes are a bit big and the size I was recommended was more suitable for someone 6'4" I didn't feel safe on it and also the handlebars upon checking again, were too much of a stretch to use The problem is that there is overlap for the sizes with some heights. I'm hoping that the replacement fits better and I have the option of raising the saddle slightly if necessary
@paulmorrison302 жыл бұрын
Definitely my newly discovered favourite KZfaq channel 👊🏾👏🏾✊🏾
@Cade_Media2 жыл бұрын
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@emmanueleng11603 жыл бұрын
7:22 Thinking Canyon... 7:47 Yup, definitely Canyon. Canyon tends to label their bike size too big. A medium on other brands is a small in Canyon.
@aztecxger34113 жыл бұрын
100% agree! but there are exceptions! the commuter frames tend to be right! 1,74cm, men, Gravelbike S, Commuter M.
@Neilz9113 жыл бұрын
Dito 😅
@dominicward35233 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Thanks James Still waiting for the reach around joke though.
@alienaudaxer98273 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff this, there's so much to consider that has so far slipped me by. I'm 5 11 and usually found 56 was the best fit for me. I have a BMC Roadmachine in 56 which fits pretty nice but I'm not super happy with how it rides, particularly on low percentage inclines, but that's prob more to do with the carbon layup rather than the sizing. Somehow I enjoy my older racer size 58 with a super short stem. Now, after watching this, I'm tempted to try out a 54 or 55 and see how that feels. Scheduling a bike fit is sliding up my list of priorities.
@primomasella81683 жыл бұрын
James loves saying 'asymmetrical interaction with the saddle' :-)
@ostelaymetaule3 жыл бұрын
Loved to see a similar video with some actual information on how high the saddle should be and without chewing gum
@nuriaflores22533 жыл бұрын
James dropping knowledge like corn kernels! Great video, as usual. Cheers, guys! 🍻🍻🍻
@Bishop01513 жыл бұрын
From a bike fit perspective. If someone is on a frame that's not quite the right size. Is too large or too small easier to compensate for with other factors such as seat height and stem? Obviously, getting the right frame size is best, but not everyone is in a position to do that. Who will have it easier to compensate?
@gaza45433 жыл бұрын
Yep I’m between sizes on almost any bike I’ve sat myself on. Either the reach is to long or the I can’t reach the pedals. So I have to go for the lesser of 2 evils. You don’t have to have miles of seat post for the bike to fit you either as some point out.
@harmen18323 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'3 with a large inseam size (3'1) and had a size 58 bike with standard sized stem. Now I switched to a size 61 Tarmac with a shorter stem and I finally cycle without pain
@Emlyn_N3 жыл бұрын
On a Tuesday !?!? ..... What is the world coming too
@aygwm2 жыл бұрын
The other thing about bike fit is that there is a lot of overlap between bike sizes now because of sloping top tubes. I am also 5'10" and I have ridden bikes as small as a 52 (530mm top tube) and a 56 (with a 545mm top tube). A lot of riders have issues with getting the right amount of stack as well... and too many people are chasing the "slammed" look and sacrificing their comfort and power to do so.
@Laringuette3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am a petite lady, less than 5 feet, and wish now I had had a fit prior to purchasing my bike. Maybe we would have made a different choice. We are now changing the cranks that came with the bike to a smaller crank that would best fit me to get ride of knee pain. So yes, bikes when you are not average height are an issue. I am lucky to have an excellent fitter here in Montreal.
@edmundscycles13 жыл бұрын
The odd thing is that if you fit shorter cranks you will need to raise your saddle height and that will seriously help with your knees . Your legs will have to make a much small change in knee angle as you go through the pedal stroke .
@RichBaggio3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I feel exactly like I’m doing a plank when I ride my bike.
@obtugtxivtub3 жыл бұрын
Some bike shops don't really have the right knowledge. I was sold a bike that was slightly on the larger size. I felt bad, but then saw another fellow cyclist who is 4 inches shorter than me riding the same size as my bike. His saddle was all the way down. Was suprise because the bike shop where he bought the bike was a popular bike shop.
@cocorocks883 жыл бұрын
I'm sure James would get bored stiff in 5 minutes but I'd love to go for a drink with the man, just to pick his brains on everything bike fit mechanics related, makes it properly interesting.
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
5 minutes he'd be 3 pints down
@alwaysanotheradventure3 жыл бұрын
Just found this. Best bike fit I’ve had was James when at Sigma. Came down from Scotland for it
@Cyclingbluenoser3 жыл бұрын
Totally thinking about flying over to England from Canada just to see James unless he does overseas house calls🙂
@Ballacks1013 жыл бұрын
Question for James, if I have already bought a bike that I'm pretty sure is a little big for me (It was the bike I was dreaming about and I found it on offer with a slight scratch for £2500 off list price), is it still worth getting a fit to rejig it and make it fit a little better or will you just tut and tell me off for the entire fit session?
@kalijasin3 жыл бұрын
Saddle height to high, not forward enough, incline down to far or not enough, etc.. any number of issues. That will compress the nerves in the perineum area which can cause numbness and other problems. There are saddles that by design fix all that e.g. SQlab 612. You still need the saddle adjusted correctly though.
@Alllivesmatterloveeverone3 жыл бұрын
always enjoy bike fit Tuesday. great advice thank you both.
@JonathanCox943 жыл бұрын
I took James’ advice on a previous video about handlebar width and bought some 38’s. While they felt better at first over time I found I rested my palm too much on the bar where it bends around to the hood and had issues, got some 44 bars out of curiosity and the outside of my hands were more resting and distributed better which I found interesting
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@Barrygee3 жыл бұрын
Bike sizing is just ridiculous now...I have two 58 cm bicycles, the top tube and seat tube on one are both pretty much bang on 58cm...on the other the top tube is 56.8 and the seat tube is 54.5 it’s massively different....two bikes allegedly the same size shouldn’t be that far apart.
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
We filmed a video about exactly this - choosing frame size and why it's a minefield. Will edit and post it soon;
@Barrygee3 жыл бұрын
@@Cade_Media I look forward to it ...depending on the brand it is suggested that at 6’3” I should be riding anywhere from a 57 to a 60 but considering that some 60’s are no larger than some 58’s that doesn’t really help. I think the whole sizing system needs standardising so a 58 is actually a 58 or within a reasonable tolerance.
@bukarin3 жыл бұрын
How are you measuring them? If they're compact frames you need to be a little more accurate to get the 'effective' measurement. Its definitely a mine field! I've got a selection of bikes (mainly old eBay bargains) and the dimensions vary considerably within the same size range. I have an old 24" (61cm c-t) frame with a 57cm c-c top tube and a 19cm headtube which I think will be perfect for me when I build it up, I've got another old frame which is 23" (58cm c-t) which has a 58cm c-c top tube and a 16.5cm headtube. A custom bike would be great but I think once you start to get a feel for the frame size that really suits you can make smart choices about buying the right bike. I guess the problem is most people don't want to build old bikes up and end up with a garage full of frames and wheels lol
@TheNeelonRokk2 жыл бұрын
I like how Francis makes a "shameless plug" to his own channel, in a video on his own channel. Also, I am about to get a bikefit scheduled. It's a shame James is so far away from me (I reside in the Netherlands), otherwise it would have been a no-brainer for me.
@D4rkS4v4nt3 жыл бұрын
I went for a local bike sizing with an independent bike fitter using a retul rig. After the sizing I was recommended to go for either a size 56 Trek emonda or a size 55 Orbea orca which were the bikes I was interested in. Several months later (after using a cheap Trek emonda 56 with no fit issues) my Orbea orca arrived and after a couple of rides I had leg pain issues. I went to the local bike fitter who made some adjustments but seemed to be having difficulty even though he'd told me what size stem, handlebars and saddle to go with. He ended up adjusting my saddle all the way forward on the rails and I'm still getting leg pain issues now. I believe I was advised to get a bike that is too large for me as it feels bigger than the trek emonda 56. I'm now desperately trying to sell the orca but having no luck unless I'm prepared to lose a significant amount of money. I will never go for a bike fit again, I've not had any fit issues previously when relying on my own experience. So just wanted to point out that a bike fit isn't the be all and end all if you are somewhat experienced and have an idea what you are doing. I was going to order the smaller frame but went with the large one as I trusted what I was being told. Big mistake!
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
There's lots of bad bike fitters out there - I'm guessing they weren't listed on the ibfi website (i.e pursued further education). We could do a video on bad fitting practices and when alarm bells should be ringing... Retul would probably be up there!
@Fit1stbuylater3 жыл бұрын
Bike fit is the be all and end all and can make massive improvements if the fit is carried out professionally, not all bike fitting is created equal. You wouldn’t never have a service on your car again because one garage got it wrong
@FixedundFertig3 жыл бұрын
Ok. It's getting wierd .. Bikefit Tuesday's actually on a Tuesday ?? What ??? I mean .. seriously .. WHATS going on Francis ? 😄😜 Like it 👌
@Cade_Media3 жыл бұрын
Woops
@jason-uz7sz3 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, you are probably thinking of Canyon for oversized bikes. I just returned to cycling this year, and according to their website and the sales rep, I'm a size medium. I'm 5'8". I have now been riding the bike about 8 months and everything you are saying in the video seems to apply to me! I believe the reach is too long, yet its aero bars so I can't adjust the reach, so I have moved the seat forward and have saddle problems and all of the above. I have the Canyon Ultimate. Without seeing me, would you say I'm likely a small?
@jason-uz7sz3 жыл бұрын
correction, I have a small, and think maybe i'm an XS?
@SanFranSicko3 жыл бұрын
@@jason-uz7sz Canyon is probably the brand he was referring to if I had to guess. The Ultimate is a race bike so it has a somewhat long reach to begin with. I can tell you from looking at the geometry of the Ultimate that I myself (at 5'10) would probably use an XS if I had to choose - and absolutely not the medium, which their height chart puts me in. The small might be okay but the XS has the geo that I would find more comfortable. I can imagine at 5'8 that the small feels a bit stretched out especially if you just got back into cycling.
@jason-uz7sz3 жыл бұрын
@@SanFranSicko thanks for the reply Mark. Yes the small does feel stretched a bit. My height is on the limit for Xsmall and at the start limit for Small. I think I would have been better with the XS and had the seat more in the middle position instead of forward like I have it now.
@jameslovelock79023 жыл бұрын
Really helpful advice. Thank you chaps!! I bought first instead of getting fitted, but it sounds like luckily I’ll be ok as I erred on the size of caution. (Do you see what I did there?)
@bjpigott19002 жыл бұрын
I so like the no nonsense advice !
@DougTheSnowMan3 жыл бұрын
We need James and Francis on Alternative Cycling Network weekly livestream!
@harrysimons86603 жыл бұрын
“You could poach a salmon in that” 😂😂😂
@ryanwilliams413 жыл бұрын
Well I'm travelling from Cardiff to you on 19 November for a bike fit before I buy another frame 👍
@erctut12 жыл бұрын
You are definitely talking about Canyon when it comes to sizing!
@mwgoldfix3 жыл бұрын
The king of bike fitters
@Citybikeing3 жыл бұрын
I’m in the military and just found out I’m getting posted to a big city and decided I’ll save some $ and become a cyclist. Thanks for these great introductory videos