5 Failed & Abandoned Eisner-Era Disney Ideas

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One aspect of Michael Eisner I admire when it comes to his time as Disney CEO was his insistence on brainstorming from all levels of the company.He felt that it was important to foster an environment where people weren’t afraid to voice their ideas. From that ethic came some ideas that changed the Disney company forever and are still with us today. There were also some pretty bad ideas. Here are five failed ideas from the Eisner Era.
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Number 5: Rentable boats in the World Showcase Lagoon
According to both Eisner and investor Sid Bass, during an afternoon at EPCOT together while walking around the park and talking business, Eisner realized that there was nothing going on in the World Showcase Lagoon.
Disney did run tests of a boat rental program in Epcot, however it never left the testing stage as they soon learned that the testers struggled with boats due to the wake bouncing off the walls of the lagoon and roughing up the waters.
On the subject he said “Our people who were testing were all capsizing and getting sick.”
Number 4: Disney Fast Food
In 1990 during the rise of the Disney store, as they were expanding from 41 to over 120 locations across the country, Disney decided it was time to get into the fast food business. The idea was called Mickey’s Kitchen and the first one opened in April of that year at their Montclair Plaza Disney Store in California.
The idea was to offer a healthy fast food alternative with the Disney brand attached to it, and the initial test locations existed within Disney stores themselves as extensions. The menu offered up dishes such as “Salads in Wonderland”, meatless “Mickey Burgers” and “Bibbity Bobbedy Beverages”.
The test lasted for two years and expanded to a second location, but by March of 1992 both were shut down due to poor performance. As consumer products division spokesman Chuck Champlin put it, Disney “barely broke even with Mickey’s Kitchen.”
Number 3: Disney Cars. No, not the Pixar film. Actual Disney cars.
When it came time for Eisner's son Breck to start driving, Eisner floated the idea of an actual Disney car. He thought it would be wonderful for Disney to be known as the safest car on the roads. The car would, among being the safest, offer fenders and roofs that could easily be swapped out for different designs, making them more customizable.
The idea got as far a focus testing through Disney’s outsourced PR firm, Young and Rubicam. As it turns out, according to Young and Rubicam’s Steve Rose, when people think of a Disney car, they imagine Goofy on the hood and a Mickey Mouse steering wheel. It was an idea nobody wanted. With that data at hand, Eisner shelved the concept.
Number 2: The year long wedding of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.
The concept was to not only have Mickey and Minnie get married, but to make a year long event out of it. The idea was that Mickey and Minnie would get engaged on Valentine’s Day, get a ring in April at Tiffany & Co (surely a sponsorship opportunity), and finally get married in June during the height of the Disney vacationing season and during a televised special. Lastly the two would honeymoon in Paris, not too far off from the relatively new EuroDisney.
It was packed with all of the tie-ins and synergy that Eisner was known for. However ultimately the idea of Mickey and Minnie getting married, and all the implications and complications that came with it, were just too radical for many at the company, and the idea was shot down.
Number 1: The Mickey Mouse hotel, a 43-story towering, inhabitable monument to the mouse himself.
During their second week as CEO and COO of The Walt Disney Company, Michael Eisner and Frank Wells got to work on developing a new plan for the Walt Disney Studios lot over in Burbank. One idea that made it on the list was putting a hotel along Riverside Drive. Eisner and Wells met with legendary Imagineer Marty Sklar and Disney’s in-house Harvard trained architect, Wing Chao and that’s when Eisner proposed his idea for the hotel.
He said “Let’s make this a Mickey Mouse hotel.”
Sklar replied “You mean the name, the Mickey Mouse Hotel?”
“No” said Eisner. “Make it in the shape of Mickey, with rooms in the legs.
The idea was to build a 43-story version of Mickey Mouse that would stand upright and with a leg on each side of the drive, straddling the street. It was such a bizarre idea that as first nobody was sure if he was even being serious.
There was some lively debate over the practicality of such an idea, but it was finally Chao who put the idea to rest by raising the question as to where the elevators for the hotel would go, what with the dynamic shape of the building and all.

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@chaseosborn6503
@chaseosborn6503 6 жыл бұрын
The Michael Eisner-Era was such an interesting time for Disney.
@TheMrfoxguy
@TheMrfoxguy 4 жыл бұрын
Then iger cam along and threw it all in the back dumpster🗑
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrfoxguy What are you talking about. He bought Pixar, and now we have Marvel Movies.
@TheMrfoxguy
@TheMrfoxguy 3 жыл бұрын
@@icecreamhero2375 you are everywhere
@potahtwah9591
@potahtwah9591 2 жыл бұрын
Eisner's Era proved that you need a strong business sense, not just a strong imagination to run Disney.
@MatecaCorp
@MatecaCorp 6 жыл бұрын
I love Eisner's policy of open mindedness in the company. I mean he did let some bad projects through, but quite a few were really impressive. (think Euro Disneyland- now Disneyland Paris-, Disney's Animal Kingdom, Splash Mountain and others)
@MrGconstantine1972
@MrGconstantine1972 4 жыл бұрын
@The Reverend Jim Jones shows that the man is still a genius. Was it not for MICHAEL EISNER, DISNEY would not be where it is today. Much less would BOB IGER have his career.
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE 3 жыл бұрын
He asked for ideas from all levels of the company. Thats a nice of him.
@chloejohnson6861
@chloejohnson6861 6 жыл бұрын
The Mickey Mouse hotel sounds like something from an older era, like from 1880-1930. Coney Island actually had a hotel shaped like a giant elephant for a time.
@haileyshannon7548
@haileyshannon7548 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, that building still exists it’s called Lucy and it’s in New Jersey
@SwiftpawWolffox
@SwiftpawWolffox 6 жыл бұрын
I think the concept behind Mickey's Kitchen would work great, just do it as an actual place instead of stuffed away inside a store were no one is going to find it without going into the store itself. A lot of people are more concience about what they eat this days. Though in this day and age and how Disney makes use of wireless networks and media to get information out, location isn't really a problem. As long as people can find out its there and find where it is.
@anaabruna4954
@anaabruna4954 6 жыл бұрын
Disney Restaurants! It'd be great to have a little of the park in places were we are too far away to visit all the time. But with a simple menu of iconic park food. Dole whips, Mickey ear ice cream, turkey legs, pretzels. And with the usual Disney incredible touch!
@purplegir138
@purplegir138 6 жыл бұрын
Try again the Micky’s Kitchen. Because back then the world wasn’t ready to start going healthy, vegan all that healthy stuff. Now they are. They would have a stronger chance of surviving this time
@rattyeely
@rattyeely 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, plus the current trend of taking pictures of cool-looking food could easily work with the Disney brand. They could make healthy food themed after disney stuff and people would love it...too bad there's no Disney store to test it in anymore
@jthomas4309
@jthomas4309 6 жыл бұрын
I could definitely see the year long Mickey and Minnie wedding idea working today. Especially to help launch their new ride in Hollywood Studios. They could get married at the Orlando park and then they could go on an extra long honeymoon and visit all the parks outside of America.
@DistoryDan
@DistoryDan 6 жыл бұрын
In before Kevin shows up and starts screaming about Eisner.
@ColeStudiman
@ColeStudiman 6 жыл бұрын
Disney Dan lmao
@Defunctland
@Defunctland 6 жыл бұрын
EISNNNNEEERRR!!!!
@nol_dur
@nol_dur 6 жыл бұрын
Oh no, it has started.
@ColeStudiman
@ColeStudiman 6 жыл бұрын
Defunctland and there it is.
@hopeschannel
@hopeschannel 6 жыл бұрын
just thinking the same lmao
@chaaaake
@chaaaake 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t mind the fast food restaurant idea brought back to life. I’d love for there to be a place where I can get a Disneyland corn dog without having to actually go all the way to Disneyland.
@mrsuns10
@mrsuns10 2 жыл бұрын
Or bring fast food restaurants to the park
@tigorelloensil3676
@tigorelloensil3676 6 жыл бұрын
tbh, it'd be cool if Disney tried that fast food chain idea again
@mwbenedict6297
@mwbenedict6297 6 жыл бұрын
SmeeshSmosh Smeesh I hate to admit it, but we love the food while on property any would love to eat such treats while home. Maybe a idea worth revisiting.
@naderzein2435
@naderzein2435 6 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is they were trying to sell healthy which especially at the time can be a tough sell for kids.
@AsBobSeesIt
@AsBobSeesIt 6 жыл бұрын
Two words - Turkey Legs.
@playboymaxim
@playboymaxim 6 жыл бұрын
Modern Warfare - Benedict Munks MWBenedict You hit the nail on the head....If they featured stuff like turkey legs and Dole whips I think they would have been competitive
@majormana1
@majormana1 6 жыл бұрын
Make it fast casual with variety of themed foods and have those plastic statues of characters in restaurant.
@Defunctland
@Defunctland 6 жыл бұрын
SHAMELESS PLUG: Join me, Rob, and friends for Magic Kingdom Trivia Night tomorrow at 10PM EST (March 1)! There will be more than a few Eisner questions.
@Defunctland
@Defunctland 6 жыл бұрын
Nol Dur whoops, meant 10! Sorry
@nol_dur
@nol_dur 6 жыл бұрын
Nooo!
@bobtiki9767
@bobtiki9767 6 жыл бұрын
Where at?
@katiematott5656
@katiematott5656 6 жыл бұрын
It was a total blast Kevin, thanks for taking the time to make it happen, looking forward to more!
@clarkmorgan4199
@clarkmorgan4199 5 жыл бұрын
D'oh!
@M567dk
@M567dk 6 жыл бұрын
Something tells me for Mickey's and Minnie's 100 birthday: We might see a revisit for that marriage idea.
@benjaminkellog7311
@benjaminkellog7311 6 жыл бұрын
The idea of a "Disney" luxury car in the same vein as a "Lexus" or "Tesla" is weirdly appealing to me. Especially if they somehow made a sleek black "Vader" or "Black Panther" model; wouldn't that just look awesome on a Beverly Hills driveway? Meow.
@gameraddy9926
@gameraddy9926 6 жыл бұрын
A Mickey mouse themed Fast Food place sounds good.All we need are Mickey Mouse shaped Hamburgers.
@sheena333
@sheena333 6 жыл бұрын
Gamer Addy 99 or a mickey shaped pizza!
@goodjobeli
@goodjobeli 5 жыл бұрын
mickey shaped chicken/quorn (veggie) nuggets? or are they too small?
@MrGconstantine1972
@MrGconstantine1972 4 жыл бұрын
This is one idea I would have liked to see succeeded.
@CarolinaMouse
@CarolinaMouse 6 жыл бұрын
The Disney Car idea and the Mickey's Kitchen idea strike me as interesting (and I'm saying this as someone who is not the biggest fan of Eisner-not by a longshot).
@ghostboy7085
@ghostboy7085 6 жыл бұрын
if i were an imagineer and was there when he pitched the mickey hotel i would have straight up died on the spot. my soul would have left my body and i would have died and what remained would have been a husk. I know it's to foster creativity - there are no stupid suggestions, right? but i would have just been like "my boss is crazy! neat!" and been raptured out of there on the spot. great video!! i'm still getting into to theme park history proper and just heard/saw you on the defunctland trivia night and decided to finally check you out!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 жыл бұрын
I would like the Mickey Mouse hotel... although I would like to stay in the head instead of a leg. Thanks for the video Rob!
@altarush
@altarush 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably better than refitting current resorts with character designs.
@altarush
@altarush 2 жыл бұрын
@Peter Reilly It would better if the hotel was named the Mickey Mouse Hotel, not designed as Mickey Mouse. Even though, most Disney resorts are Mickey Mouse hotels: they are nice .
@tregorn
@tregorn 6 жыл бұрын
Disney always said that Mickey and Minnie were married in real life but in show biz Minnie is his leading lady. SOrry Eisner Walt already did that one.
@tymccarthy5465
@tymccarthy5465 6 жыл бұрын
"So the good ones could float to the top" [cut to Wonders of Life] lolz
@Camilingue3
@Camilingue3 6 жыл бұрын
Mickey and Minnie ARE married. They have wedding pins, wedding cake toppers, drawings of them married. They are married I don't care what no one says.
@crystalfairy912
@crystalfairy912 6 жыл бұрын
I say they wear their wedding rings under their gloves.
@russianboss0378
@russianboss0378 6 жыл бұрын
last time i went to disney i went to the contemporary for a dinner with the characters. I asked both Mickey and Minnie if they were married, and they both said no.
@feliciasingleton4849
@feliciasingleton4849 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Walt Disney himself confirmed that Mickey and Minnie are married
@jeremiahdavis-epps8013
@jeremiahdavis-epps8013 6 жыл бұрын
They even had children at one point. Christmas carol?
@Camilingue3
@Camilingue3 6 жыл бұрын
RussianBoss 037 I find that super hard to believe as somebody who works at the parks because that would be considered breaking the magic.
@jenniferwaldeck3738
@jenniferwaldeck3738 6 жыл бұрын
I can see why there would be issues with boats in the world showcase but I would love if you could rent a sail boat and either have someone take you out or go out alone if you can provide qualifications. My boyfriend is a professional sailor and it would be so fun to pick up a picnic from world showcase and go out on the water!
@JacobHillSBD
@JacobHillSBD 5 жыл бұрын
"WORSHIP ME!!!" -The Mickey Mouse Hotel
@defcon9998
@defcon9998 6 жыл бұрын
The fast food of healthy food would do better nowadays than before. In the past people didn’t know the unhealthy things with fast food and gmo foods. Internet and social media makes it big impact nowadays
@emilyhogan4973
@emilyhogan4973 6 жыл бұрын
So we almost got a Mickey Mouse version of the Colossus of Rhodes.
@andypage9
@andypage9 6 жыл бұрын
Mickey's Kitchen, away from the parks, serving a few select dishes from Disney World. Disney cars, but maybe without putting the Disney name on them.
@TheMythey
@TheMythey 6 жыл бұрын
I say we bring back the Mickey's Kitchen idea! We can lay the Disney cars idea to rest, I think it's safe to say. While everyone's questioning if Mickey and Minnie are ever getting married, when is Donald ever going to propose to Daisy?
@weathermangohanssj4
@weathermangohanssj4 6 жыл бұрын
Probably the week after she praposes to him and he dodges the question untill Gooffy and Micky gult him to man up. then the short ends with Minnie catching the buqeet. Mickey tugs at his tux color uncomfortable cue goofy laugh pat on the back and a booowoop iris around micky.
@lovebug6062
@lovebug6062 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the Mickey Hotel coooould work if Disney used his sorcerer Mickey design for the framework... They could even have a broom beside him that would be the lobby. His feet could be the elevators. Just a thought, lol. Edit: Or take it a step further and just create a Fantasia Hotel :D
@BurningKitchen
@BurningKitchen 6 жыл бұрын
You are a hard working lad. Yours by far are my favourite disney trivia videos. Treat yourself to something nice
@ninjamaster3453
@ninjamaster3453 6 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent episode and topic.
@MidwaytoMainStreet
@MidwaytoMainStreet 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@StormyStrikeVideos
@StormyStrikeVideos 6 жыл бұрын
I like the Mickey's Kitchen idea, especially with healthy and vegetarian (and perhaps vegan?) options. I think it would actually do well if came back today since many people have become more health conscious and there are so many dedicated disney fans that would go to it just because it's Disney.
@antifagoat6591
@antifagoat6591 6 жыл бұрын
StormyStrikesChannel Ikr?! It sounds amazing, but people even today don't like healthy food. They enjoy having the option for their "vegetarian friends" but the idea of healthy food-only is indoctrinating and gross to your average American Joe.
@bgcm1995
@bgcm1995 6 жыл бұрын
StormyStrikesChannel I wouldn't mind a healthier burger.
@AsBobSeesIt
@AsBobSeesIt 6 жыл бұрын
But, it's the junk food that people buy at Disney, not their "healthy alternative" and their junk food won't stand up against anybody outside the park.
@mattwolf7698
@mattwolf7698 6 жыл бұрын
I would eat there.
@connerrobles-emery3672
@connerrobles-emery3672 6 жыл бұрын
It would totally work, but it would need theming that skewed toward the classier Disney eateries. Maybe even a new IP with a Disney tie-in. If you could bring some of the quality theming of Disney's best, then it would easily have a market. Naming health food after the characters is pretty much a non-starter, though. At least outside of a kids menu. The rise of fast casual leaves the market open for Disney, if they so desired. It might actually help start some trends if played right.
@trickycrayon
@trickycrayon 6 жыл бұрын
The boats would just be so fun. Give me all the boats. Heck, make 'em those mostly-wakeless foot-paddle ones.
@lorddenti958
@lorddenti958 5 жыл бұрын
As I see it Eisner was a genius. A mad genius.
@Guernicaman
@Guernicaman 6 жыл бұрын
If Disney can have success in cruise ships, then certainly a Mickey Mouse Hotel & a Mickey's Kitchen would be great ideas that could work. The problem would be figuring out how to better implement them. Mickey Mouse Hotels could be a series of all-inclusive-style Disney-branded hotels where families can spend time together, joining in different family-friendly activities, depending on where these hotels were. A Disney Hotel next to the Grand Canyon could offer tours w/cast members, for instance. Disney Restaurants (not fast food, but actual sit-down restaurants) should just offer Disney-themed breakfast, lunch & dinner dishes. While there should always be a set menu of a handful of items, the menu could change w/new dishes related to their latest properties. Maybe there could be a Star Wars themed plate, a Pixar or Disney animated plate or a Superhero, Marvel Studios plate. The restaurants' waiters, waitresses, hosts & hostesses could be in costume & play characters from the films. Think The Magic Time Machine chain of restaurants. Imagine the Mad Hatter taking your order!
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 жыл бұрын
Guernicaman Those are sad mediocre watered down versions that will be really disappointing. Slapping a Disney icon on an average product is the hallmark of bad brand management, as it ultimately devalues the brand. The products that are remembered and carry the brand forward are properly unique ideas like the classic Mickey Mouse alarm clock, not a regular clock with Mickey drawn on the clock face.
@jerseyforhawks
@jerseyforhawks 6 жыл бұрын
try again with the Mickey Mouse Hotel, have him backed up against a 'regular' facade for elevators et al, then having cool suites extend out, with top being the coolest penthouse. Should be doable today. Put it either in FL or CA.
@redcoltken
@redcoltken 6 жыл бұрын
The strangest thing about the suggestion was not the Hotel shape but its location. Riverside drive in Burbank? Near the mighty LA river and - well not much else
@redcoltken
@redcoltken 6 жыл бұрын
I guess you can take a tour of the neighborhood lead by Bob Gurr
@busmanocta
@busmanocta 6 жыл бұрын
I think you got something there, it just needs a little more Disney magic to make it work, I'm sure in time it could take shape.
@ariklevin7514
@ariklevin7514 6 жыл бұрын
Or Mickey could stand with one leg crossing the ankle of the other which would require one leg to be straight, and that leg could house the elevators
@AviMehra
@AviMehra 6 жыл бұрын
Diagonal elevators are a thing people
@meligarcia
@meligarcia 6 жыл бұрын
This was uploaded on my birthday
@dd45fs23
@dd45fs23 6 жыл бұрын
Surely the fast food restaurant idea would’ve worked if they’d 1. Made normal fast food and 2. Put branches in food courts rather than Disney stores?
@Taydar
@Taydar 6 жыл бұрын
As time goes on I see Michael Eisner as more of a tragic figure. I wonder what it would have been like if Frank Wells never had that accident.
@ninjamaster3453
@ninjamaster3453 6 жыл бұрын
Daryl-Rhys Taylor he was a money guy, he got them on track. But as for creativity he was a dud.
@Taydar
@Taydar 6 жыл бұрын
Ninja Master well yeah. But then Eisner wouldn't have had to be in charge of the money.
@Taydar
@Taydar 6 жыл бұрын
tom kat he had a helicopter accident and died.
@Taydar
@Taydar 6 жыл бұрын
tom kat there us a dedication to him in The Lion King
@rattyeely
@rattyeely 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's kinda sad how his initial creativity gave way to cynicism after the accident.
@PurpleMonadoBlaze
@PurpleMonadoBlaze 6 жыл бұрын
Tbh i thought Mickey and Minnie were already married. Igler needs to make that wedding happen.
@norah4266
@norah4266 6 жыл бұрын
The one idea I would want to see play out is Mickey and Minnies year-long wedding because it sounds like such a fun idea and, unlike the Mickey Hotel idea, it can be done.
@katiedisneyvlogs9439
@katiedisneyvlogs9439 6 жыл бұрын
I can see why they couldn't build the Mickey Mouse Hotel during Eisner's reign as CEO due to the lack of technology and architecture per say (the elevator up the leg), but I feel that now it is possible and it would be something very cool to have built on Disney property. Even if there isn't necessarily technology for it right now, Imagineers are extremely intelligent and I'm sure there's a way they could think of something in order to make it work!
@MarkVerstappen93
@MarkVerstappen93 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder what part was impossible. The Eiffel tower already had diagonal going elevators in 1889!
@katiedisneyvlogs9439
@katiedisneyvlogs9439 6 жыл бұрын
That is true! Seems like Disney should've been able to have that technology.
@katiedisneyvlogs9439
@katiedisneyvlogs9439 6 жыл бұрын
Very true!
@AsBobSeesIt
@AsBobSeesIt 6 жыл бұрын
And the St Louis Arch
@myatoone2932
@myatoone2932 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t know.. I think it would be smarter and cooler to have a hotel based around the architecture location and design of the original Disney cartoons.
@PA551ON
@PA551ON 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Mickie and Minnie didn't get married because then I wouldn't have this story to tell from my trip to Disney World. I was probably about 5 when I went to Disney World and even throughout my childhood I was a cassanova. While other boys my age were avoiding girls like the plague cause of "cooties", I was fawning over them. I had many crushes on cartoon characters growing up too, including Minnie Mouse. My dad bought me a bunch of Minnie Mouse merch headed to and at Disney World and I even got to meet Minnie at MGM Studios and she gave me a kiss :3. However, I have an even better story from Animal Kingdom. I don't remember meeting Mickie and Minnie at Camp Minnie Mickey that day all that well but my family has the photo evidence to prove it. Apparently, from what they tell me, I was flirting with Minnie, causing her to blush and stuff, and then Mickie got kinda mad at her.
@taiken64
@taiken64 6 жыл бұрын
MisterMercy I don’t see why that wouldn’t be possible if they were married? If anything, Mickey would’ve been even more mad lol
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, you sound almost as bad as me. Timon sure was surprised to get a kiss from me when I went to Disneyland when I was little.
@dr666demento
@dr666demento 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, marrying Mickey and Minnie was a bad idea. For one simple reason; it would imply the characters _age_. In all of cartooning, that's nearly unheard of (it's been done in a few comic strips, but in general it's a topic to be avoided). And considering Mickey has been around for 90 years, it would be even worse.
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy 5 жыл бұрын
How is that a problem? Disney could just make it so that from that point, these two characters will always be considered married. They don’t have to keep aging after that. Heck, not only did Goofy got married, but he also became a father and last time we saw his son, he was in college, and Goofy was still the same character we knew and love.
@madisonbrooks5793
@madisonbrooks5793 3 жыл бұрын
That's not even close to true.
@RedRobinYum1998
@RedRobinYum1998 6 жыл бұрын
Ayy shoutout to my hometown mall, Montclair Plaza!! The Disney store still exists and is outdated but full of Moana and Coco merch!
@davids6898
@davids6898 6 жыл бұрын
You didn’t mention Plectu’s Intergalactic Review which was supposed to go into the then empty Carousel of Progress/America Sings building at Disneyland
@connerhaun8160
@connerhaun8160 5 жыл бұрын
Was West Town Mall Disney Store (Knoxville,Tennessee) part of the expansion or the original 41.
@subtraff
@subtraff 6 жыл бұрын
I like the boat idea at Epcot!
@advancetotabletop5328
@advancetotabletop5328 6 жыл бұрын
How about 5 Failed and *Not* Abandoned Eisner-Era Disney Ideas, or 5 *Not* Failed and *Not* Abandoned Eisner-Era Disney Ideas? Thanks!
@arachne6074
@arachne6074 5 жыл бұрын
“No, make it in the shape of Mickey with rooms in the legs” that sounds like a “here’s your sign” joke, but this was a real conversation
@plainmainaccount5554
@plainmainaccount5554 4 жыл бұрын
I miss Eisner. He had a lot of the spirit of Walt, which was really needed at that time.
@LittleJAMBAM
@LittleJAMBAM 6 жыл бұрын
Wait Mickey and Minnie aren't married?! What???
@sageofearth5250
@sageofearth5250 6 жыл бұрын
Well Walt said they were, so I am going on limb and say they are happily married.
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 5 жыл бұрын
Last I heard, they were in some sort of Schrodinger's relationship of being kind of both married, but also just dating. I think that's part of the idea why giving them an official wedding was scrapped, it would have implied they definitively weren't before.
@christianfaux736
@christianfaux736 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're living in sin, its pretty comtroversial.
@jaschabull2365
@jaschabull2365 5 жыл бұрын
@@christianfaux736 Since when? It's not as if they have any kids or anything.
@OfficialDeejayW
@OfficialDeejayW 6 жыл бұрын
The televised Mickey and Minnie wedding special is a genius idea. I wouldn’t mind having a Disney themed restaurant to go to regularly either. Mickey’s Kitchen sounds like fun
@jacobtrucksis153
@jacobtrucksis153 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob! I’ve been subscribed to you for a year and I live your videos! Thank You!
@charliebrown3001
@charliebrown3001 6 жыл бұрын
Rob I have to say I'm really glad I started watching your videos, I started watching them after the summer last year while I was transitioning into cyber school and ever since then I've been watching your videos which are really great and entertaining
@mally7512
@mally7512 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I love the history videos the most. Im a recently made Disnerd and there's so much to absorb about the parks
@Toad8508
@Toad8508 6 жыл бұрын
Back when originality was a thing in the parks... I.P.s are not always a bad thing, but there needs to be something original. We’ll have to wait until 2021 *at least.*
@optimuslibby
@optimuslibby 5 жыл бұрын
4:09 that's an adorable idea! I love it!!
@glenngoodale1709
@glenngoodale1709 6 жыл бұрын
This is a great video
@disneyfan5584
@disneyfan5584 6 жыл бұрын
I wish the American park in Virginia had been successful
@phoenixfritzinger9185
@phoenixfritzinger9185 6 жыл бұрын
it'd actually be really near where I live I could have been a princess...
@colinsoileau5033
@colinsoileau5033 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the original idea for wdw was to be in Louisiana but our governor who was a crook at the time shut that down because he wanted money for his own personal reasons and Walt moved on to Florida because he wanted ALOT of money.
@ktmridmcy7336
@ktmridmcy7336 6 жыл бұрын
That wedding plan actually sounds really cool.
@zacharykoval2253
@zacharykoval2253 6 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see the Mickey Mouse hotel!
@inkiadk
@inkiadk 6 жыл бұрын
Wow the fast food and the cars would have been awesome!
@robbiec5914
@robbiec5914 6 жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear more of these videos
@Cerise4697
@Cerise4697 6 жыл бұрын
The Mickey and Minnie wedding/vow renewal(?) sounds really cute, actually! Aside from the normal Halloween and Christmas events, it would be nice to have something special, for, say, an anniversary (that could double as the Mouse couple's anniversary as well). People might think it's weird or "extra" but I guarantee that when the event actually happens, Disney fans will be clamoring to get a piece of the wedding cake anyway.
@wrestlingwithdisney
@wrestlingwithdisney 5 жыл бұрын
Salads in wonderland?! Bibbidi bobbidi beverages?! Yes please! LOL
@coyoteartist
@coyoteartist 5 жыл бұрын
Having grown up with Disney in the Eisner era, he having gotten there only a couple of years after we moved to Florida, I've always been defensive of him. There were things I didn't like but I loved his trying to emulate some of the things that Walt represented and the child like joy, he put into talking about them. For some reason, we always called him Mikey.
@glennbroadley6683
@glennbroadley6683 6 жыл бұрын
that idea of boats at epcot is very interesting. perhaps letting the boats already available to rent from the yacht club continue into the living seas lagoon
@michaelv.9622
@michaelv.9622 5 жыл бұрын
Rob, somewhere in my “family video vault” I have several minutes of what is probably very rare and detailed footage of the Mickey’s Kitchen that was opened at the Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, IL in the ‘90s. It was, as you said in your piece, connected to the Disney Store there. We took our three little kids there soon after it opened. If you’d like to see it, we can try to figure out a way to get it to you. Love your work!
@rfart419
@rfart419 3 жыл бұрын
Tokyo DisneySea was inspired by a cancelled Port Disney project in Long Beach, California.
@razormc954
@razormc954 5 жыл бұрын
6:05 Now that's a mental image that will haunt my nightmares for years
@Rhyman1992
@Rhyman1992 6 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to read a book that listed abandoned or failed Disney projects.
@Carson_The_Director
@Carson_The_Director 6 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of the boats at Epcot.
@Q8illusions
@Q8illusions 6 жыл бұрын
I love this channel
@matthaegele
@matthaegele 6 жыл бұрын
There was an idea to build an full scale aircraft carrier that would be fully functional. This was originally thought that they could purchase a retired unit from the military and place it at then MGM to be used by filmmakers and the military.
@RoadtripDave
@RoadtripDave 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Mickey Mouse hotel would be a pivotal direction in accommodations that the company provides, and I think it would fit better in Walt Disney World. That being said, I think the hotel would be shaped as the typical mouse head and ears...it would be like Spaceship Earth, but it would have two smaller spheres on either side of it to be a 3-dimensional Mickey head. Rooms would be placed on the main sphere as well as the smaller ones. The elevators wouldn't be a problem then! LOL!
@BillMarion
@BillMarion 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if Disney has ever considered opening up what one may call, a Magic Kingdom Classic park? Okay, the name needs some fixing, but what I mean is either a Magic Kingdom add-on, or another park all together that's filled with classic rides? I'm guessing that kind of an idea never got off the drawing board, and I'm not even sure it would pay off for shareholders. Disney's good at creating nostalgia, but here lately they don't seem to mind sending the classics to the boneyard. But I'm probably one of the few people who wish they keep the old stuff around too! I'm probably just showing my age. Seems like it would be great for small kids.
@lhb21
@lhb21 6 жыл бұрын
Bill Marion Maybe having my boi Oswald in a ride would be nice.
@oriollopez5150
@oriollopez5150 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you bring back the innocent times to disney when they din`t sell alcohol at the parks and they focused on children. Get rid off the politics, alcohol, gay pride and all the other adult agendas. Keep Disney Golden.
@ToddlerWithAKnife
@ToddlerWithAKnife 5 жыл бұрын
wow i guess somebody really didn't like ellen's energy adventure
@emmarose4234
@emmarose4234 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the rides that aren’t there anymore? When you say classic rides, that is? (I’m assuming you mean THE Magic Kingdom, so Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride and Snow White’s Scary Adventures?)
@Jennie28money
@Jennie28money 6 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Mickey and mini getting married lol!! I'd stay in a Mickey hotel for sure! These sound kinda cool!
@mcathey
@mcathey 6 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine who was head of Park Entertainment at DisneyWorld during Eisner's era said that they were once brainstorming ideas about how to celebrate the turn of the century at the Disney parks (1999-2000). He said that in the meeting, Eisner floated the idea of partnering with NASA, and sending satellites into orbit packed with high-caliber fireworks. Then, at the stroke of midnight in each of the 24 main time zones on 1/1/2001, the satellites would unleash their payload, creating the largest Mickey-shaped fireworks displays ever, and at atmosphere, would be seen by a majority of the earth's population. The idea apparently gained legs for a few weeks, until someone did some research about the national security implications and they shelved the idea. Crazy!!
@auzzy999
@auzzy999 6 жыл бұрын
Eisner is a genius if it weren’t for him Disney would have gone bankrupt 30 years ago!!!
@waynetaylor8602
@waynetaylor8602 5 жыл бұрын
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@jiftoons
@jiftoons 6 жыл бұрын
I think it would be really interesting and fun if they got married. Think of the alliteration!
@myatoone2932
@myatoone2932 6 жыл бұрын
JifToons what about Donald and daisy getting married? That would be a fun event!
@hebablo
@hebablo 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Want to see tee Year along Mickey Marriage!
@richardstrainsandmore
@richardstrainsandmore 6 жыл бұрын
I remember that Mickey's Kitchen at Montclair plaza, it never got busy and the food was similar to McDonald's but pricey
@NathanLeeJames
@NathanLeeJames 6 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Mickey's Kitchen. But then, I also love eating at Chef Mickey's, ha.
@SebTH1Games
@SebTH1Games 6 жыл бұрын
The Mickey and Minnie wedding plan sounds pretty good actually, the event would be pretty neat.
@c0mpu73rguy
@c0mpu73rguy 5 жыл бұрын
The healthy fast-food chain looked like a good idea, they should try that again.
@DubstepDinosaurs
@DubstepDinosaurs 6 жыл бұрын
My friends and I rented a boat did some catch and release fishing. There are some large bass in that lake
@ProfessM
@ProfessM 6 жыл бұрын
Either the marriage one or a giant Mickey Hotel actually sounds good to me. The worst was the car.
@christapinder8205
@christapinder8205 6 жыл бұрын
I know it was just a prank. But the idea of a Canadian disney park is amazing to me
@srayj
@srayj 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always Rob! I replied to another poster about Eisner and Iger, but it made me wonder, what other CEO’s have existed at the Walt Disney Company? Was it Walt until he died? Did Walt even officially hold the title of CEO or was he just in control because he was Walt? Did Roy or a board of executives name the CEO successor to Walt? Also, do we know the most about Eisner and Iger because they are the most recent heads of the company or is it because they really have done the most for the company since Walt? I know that you have often mentioned the directionless era after Walt died and before Eisner where they were just trying to do what they think Walt would have done but I guess I’m curious about who was in charge at that time and why they were so directionless?
@whatsnextrobert
@whatsnextrobert 6 жыл бұрын
The hotel sounds like it would be pretty cool experience.
@JorgePerez-wx9cf
@JorgePerez-wx9cf 3 жыл бұрын
Mickey Mouse Hotel seems great! Just not over a major highway. BUT the best idea was the year long celebration of Mickey & Minnies wedding. I get the adult concept after thought. But, it’s a neat year long thought for three of the parks.
@AsBobSeesIt
@AsBobSeesIt 6 жыл бұрын
At the time the car thing would have worked if they had EPCOT branded it. Keeping with the Innovations at Futureworld. But, sadly, not now that they have lost even that vision of EPCOT.
@Davanthall
@Davanthall 6 жыл бұрын
I want the Mickey Hotel. Even as just a description, that is so frick’n cool.
@jeremywhite92
@jeremywhite92 6 жыл бұрын
Rentable boats! I've rented boats from Disney Springs, and really enjoyed it -- although the 'terrain' going up to Port Orleans is more interesting than it would be at the Epcot.
@mustdieproductions
@mustdieproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Goofy on the hood, Mickey on the wheel and Donald on the dashboard. 😎
@thebrinksf69
@thebrinksf69 5 жыл бұрын
This is a tricky question. I like all the ideas. Even the ones that didn't work. However, I like the idea of Disney cars, but as characters. I would drive a character themed car. My favorite idea would be The Mickey Mouse hotel, although instead of being in the shape of Mickey, it would be Mickey themed.
@Austinator0630
@Austinator0630 6 жыл бұрын
One failed idea that never got off the ground was a partnership between Disney and Vanguard Animation. Valiant supposed to be the beginning of a proposed 4 picture deal between Disney and Vanguard Animation.
@Behindthebackdrop
@Behindthebackdrop 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the hotel idea with the lifts in the legs.
@dteasantiago7647
@dteasantiago7647 6 жыл бұрын
your videos are very watchable
@younghex9577
@younghex9577 6 жыл бұрын
Boats on world show case lagoon
@djjustconnor
@djjustconnor 6 жыл бұрын
I'd pay good money to attend Mickey and Minnie's wedding. Seems like a fun idea, and a good opportunity for synergy and a unique event that would draw people into the parks. There could be a meet and greet with Minnie in her dress and Mickey in his tux, which would be a unique and cool photo-op.
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