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Federico says you don't need a chrono because your phone has a timer, but with this reasoning, we don't need watches either because our phones have clocks.

I've been wearing chronograph exclusively since the mid-70s and have always found uses for them. I've worked shift-work most of my life and mainly worked alone, so timing my individual tasks kept me on my toes. I could see which tasks took longest and helped me see where time loss was evident. I found dozens of uses for chronograph. Non- chronograph watches look like little clocks. Chronographs look like watches.

I wonder how often he uses his diver for diving..

ok then there is no reason for a watch because you have the time on your phone ??? Stop nit picking, Chronographs are a must have in a collection. They look nice and can be very useful at certain times.

I cook a lot. The Chronograph has been a good friend to me.

I'm wearing a chronograph right now: a Daytona homage from China with a VK-63 movement. It's one of three quartz-controlled chronograph watches I own, and I also have two digital ones. Unlike most chronograph wearers, I actually use the timing function. Yesterday, I used it to time one of my Thoroughbred horses over flying furlongs. Ha ha. Actually, it was boiled eggs.

Nothing more satisfying than getting to click the chronograph pusher to time the beginning of the 15 minutes it will take to get my rice to a perectly cooked fluffy texture on the cook top. And I don't even have a nice watch.

In the end, a watch this day is only a custom jewelry everyone has accurate timing on their phones.

I had a Daytona for years and never used the chronograph, now I have a GMT Master and I much prefer the cleaner dial and the date, plus I like the better lume on the 3 hands models

One doesn't buy a chronograph because they want a watch with a chronograph function. Instead, they buy a beautiful watch that they absolutely love and it just happens to have a chronograph. But yeah, a chronograph, like a moonphase, is pretty much a useless complication in this age and makes servicing more expensive.

But I love chronographs! And are we going to talk need or luxury? Gentlemen when it comes to watches we don't talk logic, need and reasoning.... Tim, that piece is ufffff. Thank Federico and Tim. Another great video. Cheers!

I don't agree. According to their rationale you shouldn't buy a mechanical watch in the first place. Chornograph or any other complication is just one other step in the same direction.

I am a race fan and usually attend a few races a year and have used the tachymeter to get average speed and lap times of cars in the race. It's fun and keeps me engaged in the race.

I just got a chronograph... this ruined my day. 😂😂 Everything you said (sadly) was true.

Hello Tim, Thank you very much for an informative video. I have a Daytona 116503 please could you let me know the implications of letting the stopwatch second hand constantly running? Is this a problem for the watch if I leave it running? Thanks again.

Great vid! As an interesting counter-point, I do need a chronograph on my watch because I teach test prep with a "no phone" rule in the classroom. So, having a chronograph on my watch is actually part of my EDC for timing students' task completion speed. However, i do agree that it is largely a romantic complication for the vast multitude of cases. And agreed, it does make many watches look much more awesome.

I use my chronograph as a calendar. Seconds = days and minute counter = months. Pretty much the opposite of a perpetual calendar as it requires 365 corrections per year, but hey, I enjoy the interaction 😂😂😂

watxhbox, should i m debating about buying an omega stock vs omega chronograph, which s the best long lasting omega watch?

You both are doing an amazing job and are super fun to watch! Here's 5 reasons why you need a chronograph ;) 1. To time precisely what your doing down to the second or to a thousandth of a second in some cases. 2. The romance of watching the sweeping hands of a complex mechanical device do what they do. 3. Combined with a tachymeter allows for rapid calculations of how fast or slow you are in the blink of an eye. 4. To know that you have something of historical significance from the invention of Louis Monet, to something that played a significant role in artillery, racing, space exploration. 5. Just knowing that you are getting something that is cool as hell!

Speak for yourself, because I use my chronograph all of the time! It's my favorite complication and so useful.

You two work great together ! most enjoyable videos on youtube watch circuit

In academia at conferences and seminars people are always mismanaging their time during presentations. Rushing near the end or constantly asking the host how much time they have left. A chronograph allows you to pace yourself and be constantly aware of the time you have left. With everything going on you typically won't manage to do the same with just the time (even if you do remember to check when exactly you started). I also like to use it when I host meetings. Making sure we spend an appropriate amount of time on each topic. I think the use of a chronograph makes me a better chairman. The main benefit over a phone or the rotating bezel of a dive watch is that it is much more elegant and discreet to use in public. I once used a loud clicking dive watch as a way to make sure no one spends more than 5 minutes talking at a group's "week start" and I felt kind of awkward. First and last time I used a dive watch for something like that. With a chronograph people are barely aware you are timing things. I think in this video you are mostly thinking of things you would use a chronograph for in your own professions and lifestyles. But there are a lot of people with professions and hobbies where they need to do things for very specific amounts of time (or have to know the length of time they have been doing something). From soccer coach or baker to yoga instructor. The truth is that a quartz chronograph would be more useful for those things. But where is the fun in that?

I use mine to time how long I've been parked when you are in pay and display car parks also I think a quality quartz is best for this

As a techie, I consider unneeded to be undesirable. In the words of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, "Perfection is not reached when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to remove".

Nice try and great video my friends but sorry I'll keep my chronos. Can't leave without watching those little engines in action just for the fun if it!! Lol

Is the 7730/7735 a complete movement or a module based movement?

What if your watch has a rocking pinion to engage the chronograph. Advantages or disadvantages to the vertical/horizontal clutch?

just name it, you saw that pic of the speedmaster in the UGWC btw, why aren´t you active there anymore?

Think this comes down to the individual and the situation or profession you find yourself in the most. For example I don't own a diver, because I am not a diver. Nor do I ever find myself in a situation in which I swim enough to warrant one. I do however have to take various timings though out the day at work. Sure I could reach into my pocket 30+ times a day for my smartphone but having a basic timer on my wrist is so much easier. In fact I find it so much more convenient to me that I pretty much always wear a chronograph even when at home. Got a Speedy Pro for work and a JLC Master Chrono for home or a night on the town. Two chronographs and no regrets on buying/using both.

Great subject matter. Chronographs are maybe my least favorite complications, but I know most watch nerds love them. I love calendars and and GMT/dual times more for me.

I need timing on laundry, cooking and parking meters and I just use rotating bezel on my divers. I really don’t find chronos handy.

Chronographs became really popular through the 60's and 70's when motorsports got huge rise. In those great times it was the norm for a race driver to use a chronograph to time his laps, acceleration. The tachymeter function came really quite useful also.

Both of you have made good logical points; and I agree with you two. However, most buyers of expensive watches are not logical; they are emotional. The emotional person pays $23,550.00 for a new ROLEX DAYTONA ,shows it to everyone, and claims it is a good investment. ( Everyone thinks it is a fake .) The Logical person pays $300.00 for a vintage ZENITH, $1100.00 for a new SIG P229 Stainless Elite, and $ 20,000.00 on a small piece of real estate ( all of which will appreciate before the Daytona). Remember, its the sizzle and not the steak; logic has nothin' to do with it!

Since you say you you can get almost anything for 10k, I'm interested to know what options for perpetual calendars can we get below 10k? I've always wanted this complication!

Does the patek and a Lange shone perpetual chronographs have the same problems?

Hey guys love the show content. Am buying a used Piaget Polo S Chronograph without box or papers for USD5,000. Do you think that's a fair price?

Love this honest vid! Thanks guys

I have citizen eco-drive chronograph ..I didn't take off my wrist for 5 years , holidays , sea swimming , swimming pools , dishes , showers etc etc. Apart from wear and tear to the bezel the watch is still running great in my watch collection box (glass front) it's now 6 years old.

I just got a chronograph I use it for sports! Good reason?

Lol shout outs to that poor guys speedy. The fogging on the crystal looked like a moon, ironically enough.

very useful,,thank you gentlemen

Great video guys

You guys are killing me I have been saving for a speedy

Tim, at about 2:08 I think you got wood 😂 Great vid guys.

what do you think of apolo13

fed what happen with our goal for the jlc sector dial

I wouldn't buy new but the amount of great value to be found in vintage valjoux Chrono definitely intrigues me

"buy it before I do, please" Tim is losing it :)

2:04 Tim had me rotfl!! Omg you guys rock made my crappy night so much better!!

I have the perfect use for a chronograph; measuring my solve time of the print edition New York Times crossword puzzle. If my phone is handy it's just too tempting to cheat, plus it's just good for the soul to start the morning with a real newspaper, a nice watch and pen, the perfect oat milk latte and NO PHONE!

mini repeater! thank you tim for putting next to the microphone! first time I hear one!

I'm so confused what to get I have a budget of £6000 for my 21st in April and I just don't know what to get I've been looking at the zenith el primero chronograph which I've found for around 3500 but there is so much choice in that budget I could even get a jaeger lecoultre ultra thin moon for around 5500.

I'm a simple man, Tim doesn't wear sunglasses, I hit a like button

Let's be honest, if we really argue about "functionality", everyone should get a G-shock. Can't beat the accuracy, legibility, durability and also service cost.

Just an idea to make list videos like this more watchable: make it show on the video which number you are currently discussing and what the said point entails. Keep up the good work!

Hilarious video, keep up the good work guys

everything you say is right but I like chronos very much and nothing can change that

Great show guys.

So true, I have 3 chronographs. ROO Chrono, Cartier Roadster Xl Chrono, and Breitling Bentley GT...I have not run the chrono on any of those in over a year :(

Lol...very funny and humorous episode..thank you for posting.

One thing that would be incredibly useful would be a egg timer thing. So like a chronograph but you set a time in minutes and seconds and it rings when it’s done. Like an alarm but much shorter and more precise.

No shades! Looking good, Tim! 😜 oh, and that was pretty dastardly to let us listen to the minute repeater. Wowza!

Seiko 6138-6139 and Citizen 8110a are not that "special", but there is not parasitic loss due to the chrono being activated. I worn them for years and the chrono function was actually always engaged (so to have a moving second hand). I used the chrono function to keep time while running, and I don't keep my phone with me while i run.

I liked the Knob Creek in the back. One of my favorites.

Lovely tim and federico😍😍😍 what a show👌👌👌💐

I find as I get older, my eyes have a more difficult time reading the wristwatch I'm wearing. I'm now down to only one chronograph (in a collection of 9 watches), as a simple three-hand dial is easier for me to read at a glance.

Whichever annual calendar watches cost less than 5k?

As long as people love their watch, it doesn't really matter... I love my Omega Speedmaster '57 co-axial chronograph (S&G) and that's all that matters hehe. It also happens to be fun to randomly use the chronograph for no reason. The Tachymeter isn't particularly useful, but I can check how fast the train/bus is going without using google! (I live in Japan so public transport is normal here...) If I go swimming, I use my G-shock or none at all anyways! I'd rather not risk an expensive watch getting damaged for something I could prevent; this goes for any diver! I know it can, but I just won't!

If your gonna get a cool chronograph, get one with a solid warranty and customer service. I own a shinola runwell chronograph, and i feel safe in knowing it has a solid lifetime warranty with great customer service. If an accident dose happen, the warranty covers it and they may even repair it

I bought a chronograph cause I loved how it looked. Haven't used the chronograph feature yet.

The Breitling M1 Chrono avenger is Water resistant to 1000 m and because the chronograph pushers are engaged magnetically you can use the chronograph function ......Yes.....UNDER WATER...!

I like to time my daughter's naps, since I'll forget when I put her down. So a dive bezel is perfect, except naps are more than an hour. However, on a chrono, running it more than an hour freaks me out. Am I crazy?

Chronos look cool but they’re more hassle than they’re worth. The take away from the stored power in the mainspring is a very good point

chronographs and diver bezels both serve a purpose. I bought a le jour mark 1 chronograph with swiss ETA 7750 valjoux movement. crhonographs serve a good purpose especially when cooking meals etc. also I own oceanx sharkmaster professionals divers watches which reach 3,300 ft 1,000m. the bezels serve a good purpose to when cooking etc, not just needed for water....

I would rather buy a very nice $200 stopwatch, than a chronograph. It's designed to be started and stopped many times, and since it's not for diving, it works perfectly for all the same things, and is very inexpensive to service- unless you buy a Heuer.

I have automatics/manuals on every complication except the chronograph. The reason has nothing to do with the areas mentioned here, it's because it's the most demanding form of tracking time (time keeping on top of time keeping), and for those that time more than the pizza delivery man, a mechanical chronograph just doesn't cut it.

I do own a chrono because I liked the looks but yeah, from the serviceability standpoint it adds to the cost of ownership. Over time I found myself gravitating towards simple three-hand models or small seconds because these styles are more universal. I don't even need a stopwatch. I do occasionally measure time it took me to hike somewhere but a simple rotating bezel would suffice and even that's an overkill.

IT HAS TO BE SAID that even the simplest of complication, such as date/day, pulls some power from the mainspring power. IMHO, the person that wants the best chance at superlative timekeeping, keeps it simple.. zero complications works best.

I agree that if you're only going to have one or two watches a chrono is probably not the way to go. On a side note you have to be insane to take a Speedmaster in the water! 50m WR basically means "don't do it"!

All true. Except that we love irrational purchases in this hobby!

Thank you, guys for confirming the things that I've always believed, yet watch sellers have always denied--that watches with chronographs are less accurate over the long term and are likely to need more frequent servicing..You guys left out two other disadvantages of chronographs: The dial on a chronograph is cluttered with the chrono function, and if you don't use that, it's a waste of space. And maybe the biggest reason is that the second hand on the main dial is dead when you're not using the chrono function--You have to look at some tiny inset dial or the seconds..The only reason I ever might buy a mechanical chronograph is as a collector's item--to admire and to demonstrate occasionally, rather than to actually use as a timer.If you need to time things with a stopwatch frequently, it's crazy to do it with a several-thousand-dollar mechanical watch. Even if I had a Speedmaster or other expensive Swiss chronograph, I'd spare it from the abuse and use a $20 digital LCD timer for timing laps or exercise sets.

great vid. the last 2 minutes made me laugh

Excellent video guys! Surprised you didn't mention the first reason that popped in my head: They aren't as accurate as a g shock! Next video suggestion; 5 reasons to own a quartz OVER a mechanical! A little controversial ;)

I thought i wouldn't like a chronograph i actually bought one and im glad i did there truly amazing. Ill never sell this watch.

Man is that speedy photo after being in water doing the rounds!

Absolutely hilarious!!! though I'm now rethinking that chronograph. Damn you Guys LOL

I actually time a lot of things with my watch.

Great video Federico ! Finally no sunglasses for Tim !

Watching this while I unbox my new hand wind chrono

Its so interresting what people worry about

Chronos look cool. no other reason needed. 11MAY18

Your such a philanthropist Tim, I bet Fed will do the surgery if you let him wear the new watch once a week, his hands look pretty steady to me.

Chronographs are like luxury watches: you don’t need them, but you can fall in love with them

The audio works this time 👍🏾

You don't get a watch with complications because you need them...but because you love them. To make videos on why is not a good idea to buy them is not a good idea...at all

I am a little confused here.. so chronographs are not practical.. and it's a down side because your phone has a timer and a clock.. wait.. why did I a watch in the first place? right.. I remember, I got because my phone is in my pocket and it's too hard to reach for it for most of the time unless it's for picking up calls.. uh wait I have my Bluetooth headset for that.. right.. I digressed.. don't we all bought we bought because we like the look of it? unless you are getting something as an investment of course.. you can hate Google's gut but believe that it will appreciate in value hence you bought the stock. same idea applies here. sorry for rambling.. just putting my thoughts out there.. hope this help increasing the interaction counter of the video.. love your videos just not this particular point you have made.

Can I just say how happy I'm to see no sunglasses

if you’re working on improving your cardio then timing your runs is useful. I wouldn’t use a platinum Daytona for that though.

almost agree on drawbacks but the most important: chrono is the most sexy and iconic complication. Having a chrono in its collection is a must have: at least an Zenith EL PRIMERO. the most iconic and performant!