😂😂 Too fridgey for weightlifting at that point

Absolutely, assess whether is value adding or not and go from there!

But are you “only” squatting 270? 😫

The issue is that accessories aren't less demanding in terms of time or energy just because they're accessories. In the end you'll be spending more time and energy gaining diminishing returns in lifts that aren't your goal.

@@kblkbl You have to admit what teatowel said carries an important point, though. Strength is strength, and guys who are naturally built/geneticall predisposed to be stronger in the 'weaker' positions can afford to focus less on gaining strength, and just focus on refining technique. Juxtapose that with guys who have to work tirelessly at both and you can see why there would be a divide.

@@Wayf4rer I agree 100% with what he said, what I pointed out, and your comment allows me to reinforce it, is the following: It's very very very...VERY hard to split nature from nurture in an already developed athlete. Summoning genetics is an extremely easy way out from just admitting that a given person may have, as teatowel said, just BUILT a stronger base. As in, put the work more than you did. How does one assess if someone's hip mobility came naturally and not because of all the good things he did unaware that they'd have great carryover into lifting positions? How do we split what was just naturally there and what was there but was reinforced by positive patterns? We just can't. That's why IMO as far as evaluations go it should all boil down to what was *done*. Because that's the only thing that can be measured. When Lu Xiaojun and Chen LiJun were developed at similar ages in the same system but end up with completely different movement patterns, that's when we can point towards genetics. Every other time, it's often just a matter of who did more. Is it really a matter of genetics that I need to work "tirelessly" at both because while I'm the same age as Eoin I'm weaker and less mobile? Or perhaps back in 2010 while I was stuck in a gaming chair playing MOBAs he was already in the path of the squat? Even if I started weightlifting before him, did I really do put more work if his childhood was extremely active while I was just a bookworm? It's really hard to frame who did more and who needed to do less when we compare people with absurdly different backgrounds and IMHO out of the top of the crop there's just too much variance to consider genetics the difference.

@@kblkbl your analysis is good food for thought, but a counter argument would be to say that genetics also governs how you have responded to training over the years, In real terms, you can’t separate genetics from training. If you can clean 150kg, you have the genetics to clean 150kg, it doesn’t matter how much you had to train to do that you have the genetics required to do it. Some unlucky people will never respond enough to training to clean 150kg because their genetics don’t allow it

​@@thepeatboggy Agreed 100%. What, IMHO, makes the "genetics" argument even more irrelevant. If it's one aspect intertwined with every single other aspect of your life it isn't a factor that can ever be isolated. The issue with arbitrary goalposts in regards to "genetic potential" is that it can only ever be compared to those who are put through the same nurture processes, specially given how specific are the goals of sports. Let's forget a 150kg clean, let's talk about Naim, the greatest weightlifter of all time. It's clear that he had "good genetics" for the sport due to his performance in comparison to every weightlifter ever but can we really say he had "elite genetics"? Sure, there are many weightlifters around the world we can compare him to but how would his genetics fare compared to *everyone in the world*? Who's to say there isn't a random accountant somewhere in the world with the genes to clean and jerk 200kg -61kg if put under the same process Naim was? The only way to know is by putting everybody under the same nurturing processes, if we can't isolate this genetic factor, discussing it is completely futile.

A lot train on grass or dirt to reduce impact on the joints so they can get great volume in

Training on softer grounds is actually very useful for elite runners since it reduces stress on their joints. A better analogy is that a 100m sprinter shouldn't be running marathons.

Yes kipchoge was wasting his time running on red sands right? And yet broke the sub 2 hours correct? You must be some special kind of stupid. Get back to us running on pavement preparing for marathon. Make sure you pound all that joints real good yeh 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤫🤣

The answer is in the name. This will work great when you are starting. Because you are weak and you suck. Once you are strong but still suck, getting stronger would have diminishing returns.

What unlocked the snatch for me were hundreds of reps with just the bar. Small adjustments in between reps, mindfulness. Lean forward more, lean back more, pull more with arms, push more with legs, stand up straighter or swing with the lower back more etc. Basically doing it every possible way and feeling what feels right out of all those options. Slow muscle snatches as well, keeping the bar going up and down, not forward or backwards. Can't see how deadlifts and squats could help with that.

correct programming (you are probably going way too heavy way too often) and steroids.

One year later and my back squat is 184!

@@LucasDimoveo bro, adding 40 KG to your back squat is incredible, good shit. I’m curious what you did to start pushing it, cause my back squat is currently pitiful, stuck around 150 atm.

@@WesLikeWest-oc9wr one short cut is to eat a ton of food. I used Zack Telander’s multi-week plan for developing a stronger squat. It took about three months and it was super hard but that is how I did it. My tendons are naturally weak and overly mobile so it has been hard on my body

Front imo for WL

Is the bar ever on your back during the snatch or clean & jerk?

@@toximan2008but then olympians do both right? Just ask klokov and ilya 🤷‍♂️🤫🤣

If you are a beginner it’s most likely a matter of getting used to that position. What kind of pain are you experiencing, or is it soreness?

@@tyronenur2373 Had a 4 week block wuth zombie squats 1x per week around 12 weeks ago but thats as far as my front squat experience goes. It's just pretty painful as I'm doing them, then the front delt is sore to the touch for a couple of days, doesn't affect my pressing though.

@@getstrongby4038 do you have a good rack position?

@@getstrongby4038 it sounds like you are actually holding the weight up. It should be resting on your shoulders

Same here, cleans and front squats destroy my shoulders

Think about the RDL. That came from a weightlifter

@@getstrongby4038 I know. How many weightlifters have you actually seen that perform the rdl on a regular basis? Now compare that to the amount of weightlifters that can be found doing regular clean/snatch pulls or squats. Also, rdl volume in weightlifting programs is generally very very low

@@HamzaAli-yw1qt I think it probably depends where your weaknesses lie. The RDL can leave your hams quite sore though so probably explain the lack of volume. But I see what you are saying

@Inquisitor Martyr dont think goodmornings would add a lot of mass or strength to your hamstrings because you do them with low weights

@@HamzaAli-yw1qt they’ll definitely add mass, you use low weights because of the lever

in 7:30 he says he was "not a pro bodybuilder or on a lot of gear". I am guessing, not natty but with only moderate amounts of gear?

@@Gusativosuspicious…

this comment made me rofl irl

This gotta be a joke

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Crossfit is dogshit and a disgrace

Most likely ATG as in All Things Gym

So you are trying to say that training speed isn't possible? Ever think that to even have a good vertical jump you need strong legs and therefore will have an alright box jump? This comment makes no sense

Rippetard logic