Hai polytheist how do u do😂 And your anology makes it three god. Funny 😂

I don't think a good analogy exists, but perhaps the best insight we can glean is from Ezekiel 1 when he describes the cherubim. They had 4 different faces each but had one man resembled body.

you don't understand my brother , trinity itself is heresy and wrong view of GOD , God is not triune and the Father is the only GOD jh 17:3, and Jesus is the promised messiah who is glorified by the one GOD the father, acts 2:36-38, and the holly spirit is the name that is given for the spirits of God who are the angels and also the father him self ,that's why satan and his angels are called evil spirits , so pls try to understand this Babylonian teaching , this comment is out of love 🙏🙏

Brother Allan if you can see this, what about a man being three beings? A body, A soul and A spirit? Doesn't that make it like God, if you do happen to see this, cam you please explain it?

We don't make sense of Him in that He is non-sensical, but our knowledge of Him, our understanding of His character is deepened as we study Scripture.

The word Trinity is not in the Bible. The 'one God three persons' doctrine is not in the Bible. The Bible is clear: 1. There is one God, the Father. 2. There is one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 3. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. Let's not add anything to God's Holy Word. God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ.

@GodIsLoveAndMerciful Just because a word isn't in the Bible, doesn't negate the doctrine. John 1:1, 14.

The word omnipotent is not in the Bible, yet the scriptures teach that God is all powerful. The word Omniscient is not in the Bible and yet the Bible teaches that God is all knowing. The word Omnipresent is not in the Bible yet the Bible teaches that God is everywhere all at once. The word Trinity is not in the Bible, but the Bible teaches that God is one God with Tri-unity within himself. Isaiah 44:6/Revelation 1:17-18 & Revelation 22:13 Acts 5:3-4

AMEN!!!!

We must worship in spirit and truth

@crewsmitty4495 finally, someone that understands that.

Phew 😅

Yep

But you have to know who he is correct? He wants us to have a relationship with him. So with whom do we have a relationship with? God the Father? God the Son? Or the Holy Spirit? It’s not just having faith, just not blind faith.

That's where I've landed on the doctrine of the Trinity. While I don't understand the HOW, it doesn't negate the reality of it. Any human analogies trying to explain the Triune nature of God are going to fall short because they are inadvertently putting a limit on God's power which cannot be.

The word Trinity is not in the Bible. The 'one God three persons' doctrine is not in the Bible. The Bible is clear: 1. There is one God, the Father. 2. There is one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 3. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. Let's not add anything to God's Holy Word. God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ.

@@GodIsLoveAndMercifulhomosexual isn’t in the Bible either. But we know that the concept exists

​​@@GodIsLoveAndMercifulhow about "baptise in the name of the Father, and the Son, and The Holy Spirit"? Mathew 28:19 Trinity is a concept to grasp for us. Understanding or good analogy wouldn't save us, but will allow someone to put that strange question aside and focus at things close at hand. Many people are confused by that one concept, and they can't let it slide. Believers doesn't really need an explanation, but unbelievers do. And be humble, don't think you are smarter than church fathers, who wrote the New Testament for you. Trinity is teached from the start of a Church, and you here teaching "modalism" as was described in the video

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

Thank you

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God. Easy to understand.

The best way to understand it is that what makes god god is his divine nature so even if it’s 10 people that share a divine nature, it would still be one God but we have a God that’s 3 in one if they had three separate divine natures then it would be three gods but they share one divine nature so that’s why he’s one god

Genesis 2:7. We are 2 parts. There is no trinity

​@@julienielsen3746​ I use this too BUT we need to add the caveat that we are made in God's IMAGE so triune, yes but not the same because our mind is not a person on its own, likewise for the soul/body. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

Chemistry theory, Geometry theory and Math theory.

Acts 17:, 27 so that they would seek God, if they might grope for him and really find him, although, in fact, he is not far off from each one of us. Ephesians 5:1 Therefore, become imitators of God, as beloved children, Coming to know who God is, is an important aspect of a Christians life.

Chemical theory:.when 3 elements are combined together to form a compound, the 3 can't be separated individually by any chemical reactions or means. At least 2 elements must be together while the one is apart. Same when Jesus was on earth, he was with the Holy Spirit and the Father in heaven. When he initt ascended to heaven after resurrection, the Holy Spirit went back to the Father and Jesus was gloried then he descended to earth to give instructions to his disciples. He ascend back to heaven and sat beside the Father while the Holy Spirit descended/went to the believers.

Math thwoey: 1x1x1=1 when a man and a woman is in union under marriage, God see them as 1. By exponents, 1 raised to the power of 3 is equal to 1.

Yes. Triple point is a good example! It can only occur at specific temperature and atmospheric pressure. However, to say that water cannot be in the form of ice, vapor and liquid at the same time is a simplistic view of primary school science. Take a glass of water and add ice cubes. You have both solid and liquid form of H2O at the same time. Observe the water droplets at the surface of your glass, they are from condensation of water vapor in the air around the glass. So vapor, liquid and solid forms of H20 can be present at the same time and space!

@@rakuenrider The difference is that individual molecules will shift between states regularly. The vapor forms and rises as ice forms around it and it dissolves into a liquid only to boil again. In your example, the three stages exist separately and do not transition. Sure, it may not be perfect, but it's the best one I've been able to come up with. 🍻

@@rakuenrider the triple point of water is the correct analogy, not the one you give. The ice you drop in the water could be from the same batch of liquid water you have in the glass, but the condensation on the outside of the glass will not be. The example has to have the same element existing in three separate forms simultaneously. Not twin elements such as two water molecules. The same element as in the same water molecule. I have an extended original comment of my own on here. Look for it.

@@frogpaste the triple point of water is spot on because all three states exist simultaneously and are all the same "batch" of H2O. This is different from putting ice in a glass of liquid water which may not be from the same batch. But even if they were, the condensation on the outside of the glass isn't. Nor do all three exist simultaneously in the same space as it does at its triple point. The man analogy, with a different analogy is what's spot on. I have an original comment on this video about both of these. Look for it.

My favorite anology is the trinity is the nature of light. All other analogies fail in contrast to this one. In Christianity each member of the trinity is an indivisible person that shares one essence. Yahweh is tri-une, each person is 100% God not 1/3 God, yet they are 3 indivisible persons. The best analogy I can give for the trinity is the Quantum nature of light. The Bible says God is light and in Him is no darkness. "This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all." - 1 John 1:5 "For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity, that they may be without excuse." - Romans 1:20 WEB Therefore, it follows that physical created light reflects the nature of God. Now for the analogy: White light is 1 thing, light. However, there are 3 primary colors of light. They are Red Green and Blue. They are primary because all other colors of the rainbow are made from these 3. These 3 are fundamental. Light can't be divided from light just as the 3 persons of the trinity cannot be divided. Each person is 100% God, not 1/3 God just as Red, Green, and Blue are not 1/3 of light but are each 100% light sharing the same essence. Each color is distinct from each other despite being 1 invisible color just as each person of the trinity is distinct. Each member of the trinity is a distinct invisible person that shares one essence. They are Co-Eternal all being 100% Yahweh God but being 3 persons forever. Another cool parallel is that the rainbow represents the Glory of God. And, the Bible describes a concept called the 7 spirits of God, which is the different aspects of the Holy Spirit! And each of the 3 colors makes all other colors of light, but the 3 primary colors are essential. Now, this analogy isn't perfect, but it's the best analogy of them all in my opinion. I don't believe this analogy leads to partialism as most other analogies do. Partialis is a heresy that sees each person as only being 1/3 of God.

“Modalism AGAIN, Patrick!”

@@JLovrak YES! 😅❤️

I was thinking of this😂

"Yeah! Get it together, Patrick!"😆

​@@stefanletonek1676same throughout the entire video, I was like "that's modalism Patrick!"

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

@@julienielsen3746 I was just recently pondering the concept of a "soul" vs. a spirit. Thank you for your comment!

Is this, 'Let's believe whatever we want and hope for the best'? Jesus praying to his God said: (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their coming TO KNOW YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

This is how I have made sense of the trinity.

A body, requires spirit to breath, soul (consciousness) to operate, take away one... (see the video you just watched)

Yes but this teaches one person rather than 3. None of our finite examples can fully describe this infinite mystery

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

​@@TheClimbingBronyOldColtbut we are just human.

Our triune God can be analogized as one team with three persons on it who have the same personality, powers, and agenda, yet they have different roles within the team to accomplish the same purpose and they perfectly love and fellowship with one another without interchange. Because of the definition of the word God, there could only be one because separate beings who differ in characteristics and powers and goals would mean that one is supreme over the others. Anyone less than perfectly supreme could not be God, which is why it is crucial to understand that God the Father did not produce or create Jesus and the Holy Spirit but they have always shared everything in common except roles in accomplishing their one will. The Father never submits to the Son and the Holy Spirit, yet they are equal in the essence of who they are.

@@phieble great definition but looking for great analogies

@@donh1572 The analogy is the first part of the comment Our triune God is like one team with three persons on it who have the same personality, powers, and agenda, yet they have different roles within the team to accomplish the same purpose and they perfectly love and fellowship with one another without interchange.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

@@julienielsen3746 Souls, spirits, and bodies are 3 parts that make up one whole person, so this doesn't apply to God because The Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three whole persons on their own and Jesus has a spirit, soul and body that is distinct from the spirit and soul of the unembodied God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. As human beings we are one tripartite (3-part) person not a one person trinity of three wholes. Also we do not exist outside of ourselves to communicate to ourselves, because we are one, but the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit exist distinctly and communicate with each other.

I hear you and agree. I think it is different though to say that what someone believes or teaches is a heresy rather than labelling someone as a heretic.

What we believe about God matters. If we are teaching something different than what the Bible teaches, then we are teaching a different god, a false god.

‭John 17:3 KJV‬ [3] And this is eternal life, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. To know both the Father and the Son is eternal life. Based on that, your salvation is dependent on it.

The doctrine of the Trinity is extremely important, even from a salvific point of view. One must believe that Jesus is both the Son of God and God, just as much as the holy Spirit is God and the Father is God. Obviously no one has a truly full understanding of the Trinity, to do so would be to completely understand God. But if you don't believe Jesus to be God, then you are not saved.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

This is a very finite and specific point. Thus limiting God to fit into singular constraints; rather than being the omniscient, omnipresent, eternal God.

But wouldn't it suffice for an analogy where we are tryin to put forth a point

Haha thought the same thing

@@Rood67 Only if you define your constraints by the physics of this world. God is not confined to our limited comprehension.

​@@CommonSense823by your own logic then, Allen can't say any of these can't define Yahweh because that would be confining Him and saying He CANT be these things but the Bible says that "NOTHING" is impossible with Yahweh

Thank you! Most people don't even notice. Ha.

@@thebeatagp Allen, can you please answer these questions? 1. Is the Father greater than Jesus? John 14:28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 2. Is Jesus the Son of God? If yes, how is He the Son of God and God? If no, why? John 1:34 I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God. 3. Did the Son receive life from the Father? John 5:26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 4. Is there one God, the Father? 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 5. Is the Father the Son's God? John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

Stick with what the Bible teaches. There is only ONE GOD. The one Jesus and his Disciples worship as OUR Father in the heaven. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, A son of God is similar to a son of Mr. Smith. Both were brought into existence by others. A son cannot be his own father. Just something to help.

@@jimjuri6490 Thanks for your opinion mate... But, I will always stick with what, God's, Word clearly teaches us.

I agree.

Jesus says Himself that He is God. "Before Abraham was I Am," "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father." The Bible is true, it's Holy, and it makes it clear that Father, Son, Holy Spirit is God.

I’m with you except there’s an issue. If Jesus is not God then when HE died on the cross it meant nothing and us as Christians are screwed and can’t be grafted into anything because God divorced the 10 northern tribes of Israel and in order for them to return to the family they had to be released (per the Torah) from their previous husband (God). So him dying on the cross followed Torah and allowed Israel to be free from their adulty, allowing “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” to return to the Father’s laws and rules and blessings. If Jesus isn’t God then we can’t join Him . In revelation there’s 12 gates getting into the kingdom, is there a gate for gentiles ? Nope

@@DustinNuttall I find it useful to just acknowledge the Trinity, Jesus is God and God is three persons and if any questions come up, just to humbly admit i don't understand it either

There are many times when Jesus claims divinity. If you deny He’s God, you call Him a liar, and therefore, not sinless. If He isn’t sinless, He could not pay for all of our sins because He still has to pay for His own.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

​@@julienielsen3746 that analogy is still the same as the egg analogy, partialism. You're dividing god into parts of the whole. I don't think any analogy fits the Trinity simply because there's nothing in this universe that's like it.

No analogy fits. Instead we should just figure understand the definition itself. We can understand the definition a concept without fully comprehending it. Like how we can understand infinity is but we can't comprehend it, because while the concept of infinity is still logical (doesn't have a contradiction) it's hard to comprehend due everything in the universe is finite. It's the same with concepts of eternal, timelessness, etc. Can understand, but can't fully comprehend. God is 1 BEING, with 3 PERSONS. 1 WHAT with 3 WHOS. In this universe, we only see 1 being with 1 person. What I am is a human being, who I am is "(insert name here)". Having 3 separate persons, eternally existing, while singular being is something that's not within this universe. It's still a logical concept, not a contradiction, it makes sense, but our minds just can't fully grasp it due to the confines of our universe. Again, like infinity, eternal, etc.

When using analogy, you only limit it to its targeted context because you are bound to get irregularities if scrutinized enough. All these analogies are only talking about the multi-personality of God, not the partial parts of God since no analogies compare since you cannot divide an infinite in the first place.

Why recourse to analogies? The Bible should be good enough, surely. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually TO US one God, THE FATHER, Only the God whom Jesus and his disciples address as 'FATHER in the Heavens' is God. Others are free to believe what they prefer, naturally.

agreed Trinitarian Heresies seem to be everywhere on KZfaq

Where do find the right way to explain the trinity?

The trinity is false doctrine

I listen to you often Pastor Allen and enjoy your programme very much. May God continue to bless you with Grace and Wisdom. When I taught Sunday school I used the water and egg analogy but also started with God created the water and the egg ( as well as the other three subjects mentioned.) And he used his creation to show us himself. We see the characteristics of God in everything he made. The point of the egg and the water used is to introduce the trinity not to limit the trinity, as the water , egg , sun, clover, and man are a small measure of what our God can do. I often call God the ultimate scientist and mathematician. The great I AM has left evidence of the trinity in these creations to increase our faith in him not to limit our faith.🙏🏽 We just have to open our eyes and look to see God all round us.' All things bright and beautiful all creatures great and small all things wise and wonderful the Lord God made them all...' The fundamental rules of science and Maths are you can't make something out of nothing and zero +zero makes zero. Wonderful and undeniable proof of God. So for me I have always interpreted the egg and water as evidence of our wonderful creator. GOD has chosen to make them with these properties to increase our faith in him. To GOD BE THE GLORY IN JESUS Name Amen

@@TheRastacabbage I'm not an expert but allow me to share my knowledge to you regarding the Trinity, if you are willing to learn. Only the ones who believed in the Holy Trinity (one God with 3 personalities where each has distinct roles and responsibilities) will understand Revelation 1:17-18 and Revelation 22:13 (where Jesus declared He is the First and the Last). For Unitarians (one God with 1 personality), these things are very hard to fathom. I used personalities rather than persons in order to emphasize their distinctive character individually where they each can communicate separately just like any person could. It's all about the WHO and the WHAT. For example, a person can be identified as an individual by the WHO (e.g. John or Peter) and the WHAT (e.g. human being). Therefore, a person is 1 WHO and 1 WHAT whereas God is different. God has 3 WHOs (e.g. The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit) and 1 WHAT (e.g. God). For humans,... John is a human being and Peter is another human being thus, in this example there are 2 WHOs (John and Peter) and at the same time there are 2 WHAT (e.g. human being, John is a human being and Peter is a human being). For God,... The Father is God, The Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God thus, there are 3 WHOs (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and 1 WHAT (God)... NOT 3 Gods but ONE God as explained in the WHAT (above). People loved finite analogies. If we are to indulge them, the closest analogy I can think of is a CAKE. Let say, we cut the cake into 3 slices. Whether or not you separate these slices from the whole its nature (e.g. CAKE) remains the same or does not change thus, It will have the same name, taste and texture but they are separate (e.g. SLICES). If we are to apply this analogy to the Trinity it would be like, The Father is a slice of God, The Son is a slice of God and the Holy Spirit is a slice of God... even if they are separate their nature (e.g. God) does not change, they remain as God individually. When Jesus prays, He is talking to the Father NOT to Himself because each of them (Father and Son are distinct persons) and Jesus recognized that the Father is always higher than Himself (in terms of Glory, Status and Power (e.g. omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent)) WHEN in human form. For He (Jesus) set those (Glory, Status and Power) aside temporarily (Philippians 2:5-7) and became human in order to sacrifice Himself for our redemption. But, as soon as He was resurrected all those Glory, Status and Power as God has been restored when He went back to the Father. Thus, He was able to reveal to John the things to come in the Book of Revelation and was able to declare that He (Jesus) was the First and the Last, the same title that was reserved to God/YHWH in the Old Testament (specifically in Isaiah 44:6). Isaiah 44:6: (Old Testament - where God declared) "I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me." See, the "NO God besides Me"! for that is the Truth because there is only ONE God as explained in the WHAT (above). After resurrection and all His Glory, Status and Power has been restored, Jesus now has the authority to declare Himself as God once again for that is WHAT He is ever since the beginning of time. Like I said, I'm not an expert but I hope the above will give you some insights about the Trinity. I wish you well. Peace and Blessings!

Amen!

Exactly! Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The word Trinity is not in the Bible. The 'one God three persons' doctrine is not in the Bible. The Bible is clear: 1. There is one God, the Father. 2. There is one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 3. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. Let's not add anything to God's Holy Word. God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ.

What! And that’s your explanation as to why Jesus is not God, you my want to start reading the Bible

@@wendymtzc I never said he wasn’t God. A substitute teacher is still the teacher while the teacher is gone. Also no one has seen or known the father but Jesus all we can know is him so it makes sense that many are confused. If you’ve only ever known and been taught by the substitute teacher than in your eyes that is the teacher but that doesn’t change the fact that once the teacher arrives he has control and authority over the class even over the substitute teacher.

@@ReyReina-mr2rb but they’re both teachers right? Thats what Christianity teaches, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are God so I don’t understand what the heresy is

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

Yes sir...I said same thing.. God is just sooooo far above our intelligence it's unreal..

@@thedebatefinisher..5521 yesssirrr!

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

@@julienielsen3746 it's a good attempt to show the pattern of 3, but not the Trinity. I kinda have a concern with this analogy because the Godhead has distinct mind/thoughts yet one (I could be wrong. It doesnt mean that just because they are in perfect agreement all the time, that we assume they have one mind, as in one source of idea or thoughts. I believe they have seperate thoughts or mind or source of thoughts yet one because they are perfectly God and they agree with eachother and are in perfect harmony with eachother, I could be wrong, I'm still learning more about our God.) The spirit doesn't have its own mind, and so does the body, the mind belongs to the soul tho. The spirit alone cant be a person, the soul alone cant be a person, and the body alone cant be a person. It is the same pattern as the egg in the video. It's a nice attempt tho, but only good enough to show the pattern of 3 or symbolic pattern of 3, but not enough to describe the fullness or completeness of the Trinity. This is what I mean with my comment, God is just too unique, tho hints can be found on His creation. Still, thank you for sharing! I also had this analogy on my mind and I just cant articulate it well. Blessings brother!

@nelljo8374 thanks for your thoughts, it's true that the mind, body, soul analogy makes it sound like 1 person. But another thing I would like to add. When we have conversations with ourselves in our minds, it's like we are more than 1 as well. The mind is like being a person, and we are a person who responds. Our spirit might be like that as well, making us a trinity as well.

Exactly! I bet he has nothing because no analogy is going to be perfect.

The closest thing would be what is written is the Athanasius creed, That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity, neither blending their persons, nor dividing their essence. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another, and that of the Holy Spirit still another. But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

It would be very hard to explain in human terms and limited vocabulary. This is why when people in the Bible had visions they would say "it is/was LIKE" to describe God with our limited knowledge of our own Earth and less of the universe is just too difficult and would still not fully capture who/what the Trinity really is.

Stay with what the Bible teaches. No analogies needed to trust and believe the TRUTH. This is what TRUE Christians believe: (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually TO US one God, THE FATHER, Jesus and his True Disciples worship one and the same God. John 20:17.

@@jimjuri6490 I think you’re mixing up Christians and Muslims

This is the way I was taught. Three distinct being working in unity. Just like in a marriage you have two distinct beings but they form a union and are seen as one. They didn’t add the children part but it makes sense 😊

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God. Easy to understand.

Also the holy Ghost don't lift up himself or glorify himself, he glorify's Jesus.

I'm aware but that still fails. Is it that way ALL of the time or only in that moment? Once again, the analogy breaks down. That's even worse. Now what you're saying is that it depends on a perfect environment for God to be three in one. Outside of that environment, the triune God breaks down.

@@thebeatagp so why aren’t you answering my questions? I really want to know.

@@thebeatagp Allen, are you really copying and pasting your prideful responses to your commenters? I've read this comment from you twice now. Again, Allen, God isn't actually water. The triple point displays the existence of a triune state of water - not some everlasting example literally equivalent to God. Once you grasp the water analogy, all you need to comprehend is that God is like that, but without the constraints of some condition. Simple as that. No situation on earth is literally going to perfectly explain the Trinity. 🤣 But the water analogy gets about 99% of the way.

You know what I think you are right. I was taught with an apple and it did help me to understand. No one can understand without the HOLY SPIRIT. Something's are just unexplainable. Especially when it comes to GOD. GOD gives us what we need at the time that we need it we just have to trust HIM.

Analogy to make Jesus into God? Why may we ask? Here is Jesus clearly stating that he was NOT God. (John 8:40) But now you are seeking to kill me, A MAN who has told you the truth that I HEARD FROM GOD. Jesus was a PROPHET of God.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

Agreed on this one. Although no true analogy will ever describe God, Time is the best to give us a glimpse of the Triunity of God.

Did SPACE, MATTER, and TIME exist at the same time? I thought Space, matter, and time did not exist at the same time but they existed with sequence when we go back to the creation. A little bit confusing. 😅

@@Teacherben. it's possible you know something I don't. 👍. All earthly analogies of eternal realities fall short. 🤷🫣😬

@@Teacherben. time doesn't actually exist. It's just an artificial measurement of the motions of the heavenly bodies going from point A to B. It's like your name, it doesn't actually exist, so too time is just a "naming" of how things have progressed, for our convenience. The period of light we call day, the period of dark we call night, then we divided each into hours which we measured ourselves.

​@@Anastasis1.4Time does exist according to physics. The smallest unit of time is known as the planck time. Time is the movement of our 3 dimensional space across a 4th dimension of time. Aka, the Space-time continuum

@@matthewschardtii1338 "according to physics" Okay.

Our triune God can be analogized as one team with three persons on it who have the same personality, powers, and agenda, yet they have different roles within the team to accomplish the same purpose and they perfectly love and fellowship with one another without interchange. Because of the definition of the word God, there could only be one because separate beings who differ in characteristics and powers and goals would mean that one is supreme over the others. Anyone less than perfectly supreme could not be God, which is why it is crucial to understand that God the Father did not produce or create Jesus and the Holy Spirit but they have always shared everything in common except roles in accomplishing their one will. The Father never submits to the Son and the Holy Spirit, yet they are equal in the essence of who they are.

Because he can’t give the true analogy, none of us can it’s beyond our comprehension to explain it. So we try our best to understand and break it down to the human mind.

He explained after every analogy what the true Godhead is. The Bible explains it too. He explains the true Godhead throughout the entire video.

yeah that I wanna hear about that

That's exactly right,man was created in God's image,and likeness, there we have a analogy of the trinity You hit the nail on the head.

This is as close as one could potentially get; however, there are issues: 1. John 4:24 (KJV) God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth. So far, so good 2. John 1:14 (KJV) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Two for two, we’re on a roll. We have spirit and flesh. 3. Uh, well, uh, hmm… there’s zero scripture that God is, had, became, or otherwise is a soul. Genesis 2:7 (KJV) And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. We have man as a soul, but not God. And the Holy Spirit is - well by name alone, a Spirit. So we have two Spirits and one Flesh, and no Soul. So, the analogy breaks down at this point.

What is the difference between soul and spirit?

@CommonSense823 that's a good question

It's an illogical and incoherent unbiblical invention by the roman Catholic church

A triangle, but instead of the three sides being lines, the three sides are also complete triangles also. Basically like a 4th dimensional shape. In my opinion.

Our triune God can be analogized as one team with three persons on it who have the same personality, powers, and agenda, yet they have different roles within the team to accomplish the same purpose and they perfectly love and fellowship with one another without interchange. Because of the definition of the word God, there could only be one because separate beings who differ in characteristics and powers and goals would mean that one is supreme over the others. Anyone less than perfectly supreme could not be God, which is why it is crucial to understand that God the Father did not produce or create Jesus and the Holy Spirit but they have always shared everything in common except roles in accomplishing their one will. The Father never submits to the Son and the Holy Spirit, yet they are equal in the essence of who they are.

Jesus teaching about what kind of a being God is. The Father is God, The Son is God, The Holy Spirit is God. They are 3 conscious personal entities but they share in and are the one substance, that is the divine substance. They are the One God, the one being. Our problem is generally we don't see how one being can be more than one person. That is our problem with understanding God. All the persons "always exist", they are outside time. They do not "become" one another. They interdwell each other in a sense as well. The Father is in the Son, The Son is in the Holy Spirit but they are not 3 beings, but the one being. Another analogy is conjoined twins where 2 personal entities share the one body but again this analogy as all analogies breaks down, but at least it is illustrative of the idea that you can have more than one personal entity within something, in that case a body. Maybe it is accurate to say that the persons are conjoined within (existent within but also comprised of) the one divine substance.

Our triune God can be analogized as one team with three persons on it who have the same personality, powers, and agenda, yet they have different roles within the team to accomplish the same purpose and they perfectly love and fellowship with one another without interchange. Because of the definition of the word God, there could only be one because separate beings who differ in characteristics and powers and goals would mean that one is supreme over the others. Anyone less than perfectly supreme could not be God, which is why it is crucial to understand that God the Father did not produce or create Jesus and the Holy Spirit but they have always shared everything in common except roles in accomplishing their one will. The Father never submits to the Son and the Holy Spirit, yet they are equal in the essence of who they are.

The word Trinity is not in the Bible. The 'one God three persons' doctrine is not in the Bible. The Bible is clear: 1. There is one God, the Father. 2. There is one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 3. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. Let's not add anything to God's Holy Word. God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ.

@@GodIsLoveAndMerciful The issue with your comment is that God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit are not the one and same person. They are equally God yet they act distinctly with the Father doing certain things, Jesus doing other things, and the Holy Spirit doing other things, and they communicate with each other. So while the word 'trinity' is not in the Bible, the concept is. That God is one just means that God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are exactly like each other and never against each other or acting with their own agenda because they are one unit like a team, and no one other than them can be called God nor can we worship one, such as Jesus, without also worshipping the Father and the Holy Spirit ‭‭John‬ ‭17:1‭-‬2‬ ‭NLT‬‬ [1] After saying all these things, Jesus looked up to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son so he can give glory back to you. [2] For you have given him authority over everyone. He gives eternal life to each one you have given him. ‭‭[3] And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth. [4] I brought glory to you here on earth by completing the work you gave me to do. [5] Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.

Stephanie, Analogies for the Infinite are partial, and imperfect. Still, these are the best I have come up or that I read elsewhere on comments in this video that describe something about the Trinity. 1. Space, Matter, Time. Each measured differently with a different effect. Each contains the other. Each is not the other. Each IS the Universe in a way while being its own thing as well. Rewind it all and you come to the Singularity or Unified Point. 2. A 3D cone. Think of an ice cream cone. Rotate it. Look down the "hole" part 🕳️ and you see only a circle. Now rotate the cone to the opposite side and you see a point. Now turn it sideways and you see a triangle. Circle, dot, triangle. 3 distinct shapes, all one cone. Also, this analogy deals with dimensions, which I think is on the right track. In 2D, we see the distinctions. In 3D, we see the unity. 3. A trichroic prism splits white light (unity) into 3 frequencies - red, green, and blue (distinction). 3 wavelengths coexisting, one spectrum. 4. The triple point of water occurs at 0.01 degrees Celsius and a pressure of 611.657 pascals. At this point, water can exist simultaneously as ice, liquid water, and water vapor. 5. A hologram. Splitting a hologram into three parts results in three complete images. Each fragment of the hologram is still the entire hologram within a distinct package. In a similar way, each person of the Trinity can be considered separately without diminishing the whole. For example, when Jesus left the Father and came to earth, the Godhead wasn't reduced, as Jesus brought with Him the fullness of the Godhead from eternity. 6. J Warner Wallace's description centering around analogy of relationship/love. Still digging into this one. 7. A single human being is body, soul/mind, and spirit. Image of God.

​@@GodIsLoveAndMerciful Jesus is God. Hope this helps. John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Colossians 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.” Hebrews 1:8 But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God's angels worship him.” Hebrews 1:3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 5:18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. Philippians 2:6 Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (God with us). Revelation 1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last 1 Timothy 3:16 Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. Romans 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Matthew 14:33 And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.” Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god. Revelation 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” 1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. Matthew 28:9 And behold, Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him. Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel: ‘I am has sent me to you.’” 1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. 2 Timothy 4:1 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: John 9:38 He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him. Revelation 17:14 They will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful.” Hebrews 1:10-12 And, “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up, like a garment they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will have no end.” Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

I used it as well to help my kids get an idea of what the Godhead is but I did tell them that there was more to it but unfortunately no human can explain it fully or understand it. Somethings are left a mystery and if we have faith, repent for our sins, love God and love others we can ask Jesus about it in heaven.

Certainly! I used this and the conversation that surrounds this means you can fully explain it out.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

​@@julienielsen3746at first I thought that sounded heretical, but the more I think about it, the more I wonder if this also explains how we were made in His image? 🤔

But that same glass of water you are drinking is not ice and steam at the same time. Teach what you want, but with all due respect, this is a false teaching about God. There is no way around it. I'm not trying to be mean here, but the analogy breaks down miserably.

No, God the Son is not the Father.

No, the Son is not the Father.

No He was praying to the Father. This demonstrates His eternal relationship with the Father, and His dependence on the Father in His earthly body. He essentially became a servant in order to save humanity, which was a part of the Fathers will. He submits to the Fathers will in this case, and that is what is being demonstrated.

The Father and Son have always communicated with each other. Prayer is communication. Jesus was also a man who set an example for us on earth.

Ok that helps, thank you all.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

That a bold statement. May be we shouldn't question anything then? And trying to understand God is a heresy? Just obey, don't question. When people were asking Jesus why this happened or why that happened they shouldn't have? Trinity is a hard concept to grasp to unbeliever, so if you put it in close analogy to explain to him, you are heretic? And you say it is the GRATEST HERESY. Definately not.

I very strongly disagree with you because God is to be able to understand and to search for answers. Blind faith is ALWAYS wrong, Blind faith promotes worship of the messenger over the message and over God and that is so much worse than a mangled analogy.

Yeah this video is… meh

Yea hecka weird God knows we wouldn't understand it so people try to make up analogies to break down the trinity but apparently it's bad to try to explain it in a way that humans could understand I alittle bit. We won't fully understand the trinity but it's not wrong trying to learn it. I'm sure God wouldn't hey angry about us wanting to understand him and his forms but ig it's a bad thing apparently lols

Why do you assume that you can understand God? Is theology reduced to what we can understand? Sure the Trinity is beyond human logic. So what? The question that many have wrestled with is how do we affirm Christ's divinity, while acknowledging there is but one God. The Trinity may be apprehended yet not comprehended. It is a mystery and that is okay.

If we limit God to only what makes sense, or what we understand you would never be able to explain much in this world that He created.

What makes him God if you can fully comprehend him?

​@@gusolsthoorn1002 Do you not believe Truth is objective? There is no such thing as our, logic, your logic, Gods logic; Truth is objective. What's true is true to me you and God. I don't claim to fully understand God but I can affirm that what is illogical is by necessity false. I also think it's not biblical that God is 3 persons, Father, Son and Spirit. What trinitarians get confused is that the bible distinguishes between the person of God and the status of God. God is used in different contexts in the bible(patriachs are called God, children of irael is called God, Jesus)however this is not to be confused with the One true God and source which is the Father.

​@@CommonSense823 What makes sense is literally what we choose to believe BECAUSE it makes the most sense. You can't explain anything that doesn't make sense and that including the trinity. We are able to explain the things God created because they make sense to us.

However, this is from Mormon doctrine, which is also heresy and frankly blasphemy because they teach that their god was once a man like us, etc, etc, etc.

@@christopherricher3133 Our God is Jesus Christ, who bled for us. And if you use the word "man" to describe GENDER than yes God is man. Jesus is described as the SON OF MAN in the Bible.

It’s Blasphemy to call the Godhead, trinity. Trinity is a man made term that is false and a heresy. Stick with the words of the Bible and don’t add to it or change it to suit the philosophies of man. Pray about it so you will be taught the Truth. False Doctrines are flooding this world and God warned us not to be deceived. We should pray, fast and counsel with God, personally, on everything so we will know with a certainty what’s true and what’s false. We should also not lean unto our own understanding.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

Exactly! The word Trinity is not in the Bible. The 'one God three persons' doctrine is not in the Bible. The Bible is clear: 1. There is one God, the Father. 2. There is one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 3. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. 1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. Let's not add anything to God's Holy Word. God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ.

​@@GodIsLoveAndMerciful But is Jesus not God?

@@romeobandzz9649 Jesus is the Son of God - and that make Him God. As the son of human father is also a human, the Son of God Has the nature of God.

@@GodIsLoveAndMerciful But why do we get baptized in the father, son and holy spirit?

@@romeobandzz9649 We get baptized in the name of: 1. The Father: our God, the creator of the Heavens and the Earth. 2. The Son: our Lord and Savior, the Son of God whom the Father sent for us. 3. The Holy Spirit: the powerful Spirit of God that regenerates us to be born again. It is because God, the Father, loved us so much that He sent His one and only Son Jesus Christ, to save us from our sins and to give us His Spirit, the Holy Spirit.

Psalm 110:1 “The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool”

@@emmanuelishak4516 sounds very loving. But what else should we expect from a tribal war God?

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

There is no analogy that works because it's an unbiblical invention

@@ObioraGideon-un6ur That is a shame because the trinity is 100% consistent with Jesus' teaching. Interested that you think that you are better than all the early true christian theologians.

@@skyeprophet3564 well, show us where Christ taught it. I'm not presuming to be smarter than anyone. In fact, it is those guys backed by the tyrant state that decided 300 years after the death of Christ that decided they were smarter than Christ. Just like the devil asked, Did God really say..? The councils who came up with the incoherent doctrine were, even in the face of what Christ taught, were asking, did Christ really say God was his father who was greater than him?

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.

We are all trinities. We are spirits. We have souls (which is our mind, our will, and our emotions) and we have bodies. All three are one Person. God the Holy Spirit- Spirit, God the Father -Soul, and God the Son -Body. All three are One God.