532nm Laser Pointer Devolution

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Zenodilodon

Zenodilodon

4 ай бұрын

Cheap* 532nm Laser pointers have been around for nearly 30 years. They may look the same but through the years many things have changed. Lasers that cost $50, usually more in the late 90's are now $2 in 2024. How is this possible? Glad you asked! That's is what this video is all about. Here is a clue... ask how much the pointer weighs.
Here's the link to the video I posted about tearing down and modding these laser pointers.
• Complete 532nm Green E...
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@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 4 ай бұрын
Great topic for a video! Really wish there was more high quality laser stuff like this on KZfaq. Your a gem!👍
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
I try! I thought this was in interesting topic to do. The drop in quality is something that goes unnoticed by nearly everyone who buys them unless you have experience with how they where over the years.
@user-lu1pn6to9e
@user-lu1pn6to9e 4 ай бұрын
I love your videos,thank you for the knowledge you share and how you are so effective at good teaching.
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
Glad you're having fun with viewing the content! While others might say " Burning Laser Pointer ", I say " Learning Laser Pointer " :P
@rosszman9
@rosszman9 3 ай бұрын
Ok, that’s great. Thanks a bunch for taking the time to reply. I enjoy your vids, please keep them coming.
@channeltronic
@channeltronic 3 ай бұрын
I still have my “pot mooded” Atlasnova 532nm (5mW original, 40mw after mood) from 2009. Still works as it is its first day. Quality big crystals on good heatsink, stabile 808nm diodes…
@qutube100
@qutube100 4 ай бұрын
Back to oldschool zeno form churrss mate awesome stuff i feel some modding coming on!
@LaserPictures
@LaserPictures 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the deep dive into this! I knew they had gotten worse over the years (it's obvious just from the weight alone), but seeing it quantified was fascinating. Very interested in the brief mention of the 593.5 nm crystal assemblies at the end, I thought they were based on sum frequency generation of two lines from Nd, not self frequency generation like the 561 nm modules you can find now too.
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
Glad you found the comparison fascinating! The 593.1 is still SFG, it's just done with a self frequency doubling (SFD) crystal. I have been working on testing and gathering SFD stuff for the last 2 years. I think I have 3 of the 558-561nm SFD crystals, I also have a 565nm, a few 574nm, and at least one more 593.5 with hopefully more to test stuff on. It's been one of the slowest and most expensive projects but it should make an excellent video when I get enough data and parts together. You're bound to enjoy that rabbit hole!
@naomi10260
@naomi10260 4 ай бұрын
NICE! super kick ass gold pointer build :3
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
Yes, the color color turned out well!
@bluethunder6801
@bluethunder6801 4 ай бұрын
They will be made out of tin foil next lol. Another good video 👌beautiful job of the yellow
@LasershowLab
@LasershowLab 4 ай бұрын
i really liked that color golden yellow
@milanmacik6094
@milanmacik6094 4 ай бұрын
amazing as always.. could you also do some "how to" on that gold plating? thank you
@delta-KaeBee
@delta-KaeBee 4 ай бұрын
Oh man, I thought u were cleaning with ISO again. Then I looked closer.... are u electro-DEplating the copper from the brass?!! Nice thinkin, & GREAT vid! I love the way it came out looking like an old Stingray mech almost! And such a sweet color/wavelength 👍 Props 💯
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
Gold plating the pointer host actually. It turned out really well and looks sharp! Thanks for the compliment :P
@delta-KaeBee
@delta-KaeBee 4 ай бұрын
@@Zenodilodon oh damn even better 👍 Definitely a sick piece in the end 💯
@captianirish77
@captianirish77 3 ай бұрын
yo do you have or would like a variable dc power supply? ive got a spare one that i was going to play with but its sitting in the basement collecting dust.
@phonotical
@phonotical 4 ай бұрын
"these where all bought on ebay" where they indeed! 😁 I got my first green laser pointer in 1932, of course they were much bigger then, as the ball point pen hadn't really fallen into favor yet, you needed an entire street urchin to hold and carry the batteries! The horses used to love following the little green dot around on the floor, up the curtains, through the market and into the orphanage, of course one day one too many people were trampled, and somebody blamed the local governess' son, so he had to be deported to the colonies, but the less said about that the better It cost nearly 3 billion dollars in today's money and took me a full 25 years to save for, but it was worth every penny, to see the look on those poor orphans faces... As they screamed in terror. . . Those poor horses... Those poor poor, rabid, horses 🙈
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
are you high right now
@phonotical
@phonotical 4 ай бұрын
@@Zenodilodon I've never been high
@phonotical
@phonotical 4 ай бұрын
@@Zenodilodon I've never been high
@rosszman9
@rosszman9 3 ай бұрын
Hi. I took a green laser out of a party light. It’s got LEDs and a laser, shines on the roof and walls, and is music reactive. My first question: it doesn’t ever get hot, and I’ve ran it for 24 hours straight testing it. Is the laser going on and off to the beat of the music the reason it doesn’t get hot enough to burn out? Second question: I bought a laser driver from Amazon to run it. Except now the laser is purple. I know I must have damaged it somehow, but I don’t know how. And if I don’t know how, I’m destined to make the same mistake. Could you advise me this please. The driver I bought from Amazon is 5V in from a USB, and I checked the output with my multimeter before plugging in the laser, 4.6 volts. It’s does have a potentiometer on each of the two outputs, but I never adjusted them. Thanks.
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 3 ай бұрын
Having the laser off for a portion of the time does help, but all in all there isn't all to much heat produced vs the mass of the module. Probably very similar to the energy in this video. As for the driver. They need to be constant current calibrated for the laser diode. You can use a dummy load like decently powerful LED to make sure the driver is set to it's low point. Then you connect the laser diode and set the current point. You could be over or under driving the laser. The junction voltage is typically 1.8V so testing across the output of the driver with the laser connected will show you that voltage. You can calibrate to that voltage as well, but no higher. 350mA would also work. Use the meter in Amp DC mode in series with the load similar to how to check current in this video or how I calibrate current in my other laser builds.
@lucasmarabolim8032
@lucasmarabolim8032 4 ай бұрын
hey, awesome channel! I've recently discovered your videos and am very impressed with the quality of your content! keep it up man. Let me ask you something? I've recently bought a 303 green laser pointer, and I'm wondering if I can simply replace the infrared pump diode with a red DVD diode, removing the crystals of cousre. Would that be possible? Can I drive the DVD diode with the components that drive the infrared by just swaping it?
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
The Nd:YVO4 is pumped by particular wavelengths. A CD laser diode from a burner is 780nm which isn't suitable to pump the Nd:YVO4. You will need 808nm Laser light. Secondly the diodes from a CD burner is for semi-pulse operation and usually maxes out around 150-170mW for continuous wave use and isn't really enough power to pump the Nd:YVO4 even if it was the right wavelength.
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
Oh I totally missed the goal of doing a complete swap and making it red, brain fart on my end. Yes you can absolutely do that! You will need to lower the driver current though. Check out my Bare and Basic DVD/CD Laser video for all the information you need! You will need to change the lens to fully collimate the beam so keep that in mind.
@lucasmarabolim8032
@lucasmarabolim8032 4 ай бұрын
thank you a lot! I just saw your guides to dvd diodes, laser drivers and green lasers, absolute masterclass ​@@Zenodilodon
@EXYZ3
@EXYZ3 14 күн бұрын
@@Zenodilodon i Opened like 3 DVD players (that are made by LG company or whatever) and the diode was aluminum-infused.. i was really sad because i couldn't put it in my pet 5mW laser :( you didn't talk about those aluminum-infused diodes in your video, it was like a heatsink, but infused with the laser diode... and i tried to remove the aluminum but i ended up breaking 2 of them (the 3rd one is also gone) because it (the thing that outputs the laser) was inside the wierd looking diode. also it (the diode) had a diffraction grating directy above the protective lens, i was able to remove it with sharp tools (it was a glass-like material that shattered and broke) and i didn't damage the diode at the same time!!! edit: 52:06 the thing inside the aluminum-infused diode looked like that but thinner also, what is the power of that golden laser? it looks very amazing!
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 4 ай бұрын
I had no idea there were green pointers as early as the mid 90s. They must have been insane expensive to buy then. Who was even selling them? Edmund? I think the first time I remember seeing one was around 99 or 2000 and I was WOWED by it and how much brighter it was relative to the red. The most amazing thing is not just that they're $2, but that they're still made at all when I thought direct diode green would have taken over years ago. I guess the relative inefficiency of InGaN in the green is to blame.
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 4 ай бұрын
They were sold by CNI and a company out of Russia in the 90s, though several companies made modules back then. Price was scatter plot, 20 bucks and up to hundreds. Edmund did have them and they were rebranded CNI lasers. I gutted a few cni lasers for the ktp crystal for keeping show lasers alive if a ktp burned up. They used a discrete HR and OC mirror, a C or B mount laser doode and a basic collimator, though better ones had a beam shaping assembly to deliver the pump beam to the crystal more efficiently. ❤
@Muonium1
@Muonium1 4 ай бұрын
@@christopherleubner6633 hmmm interesting. I will subscribe to your newsletter. haha
@nuguns3766
@nuguns3766 3 ай бұрын
that was awesome, for a second I thought I could afford to make my own orange laser from those cheapy green pointers, then you said it was from a broken module. I bet those optic crystal doublers are costly in some kind of way. I really want a nice pointer with a side button over a tailcap, better if i made my own from scrap parts and a cheap 532 prebuild. Btw if u know where i could find one of those things, pls tell me Ive got to try
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 3 ай бұрын
Great news for you! 593nm modules can be bought for as low as $50 on eBay! Currently there is a huge burst of new colors for under $100. 561,555,575,593nm! Yellow has never been more achievable!
@nuguns3766
@nuguns3766 3 ай бұрын
@@Zenodilodon oooo! oh, I have one of those 50$ lasers on the way. I considered taking that a part even, its too much to do that just yet, and also its part for my dad too, not all mine to tinker with. Im looking up 575...... I only know tinkerlasers to be selling those for a bit too much. after seeing your video if I could make one 590+- out of those cheap pen cases like here, it would be way more gratifying to have by building it myself. looks like an awesome laser you made btw
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 4 ай бұрын
Now a lot of green laser pointers are direct gallium nitride green 3.3mm laser diodes intended for pico protectors. Also, remember when the green laser pointers used high quality KTP crystals in them that could be used in much more powerful DPSS lasers. Still think the craziest innovation in laser land are the watt range blue and violet laser diodes that only draw about 2 watts in at about 4v. Being someone who remembered argon lasers taking kilowatts of power for a few watts or less of blue and violet light this was 😮😮😮
@c4land6
@c4land6 4 ай бұрын
Hey Zenodilodon I recently bought a laser diode which I firmly fit in a laser module for its driver and thermal heatsinking. I got a small torch case in which the module fits perfectly ( tightly ). Now the module being metal and also the torch case, it is creating a problem. The problem is, since this torch uses the case(metal) itself for one side connection and the laser diode is case negative and the diode is in contact with the case via module, as far as I know, if I used the case as the connection the unfiltered or unmodified current would damage my laser ( please correct me if I'm wrong). If this is a problem Is there anyway I could modify the driver or do anything to eliminate the problem for fitting it inside the case? Looks like a great video! Haven't watched it fully yet.
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
You will need to case isolate the diode host and will need to manually run a connection from the positive of the housing of the torch case to the driver. There isn't a good way around this and you will have a direct short otherwise. Kapton tape works pretty well, but you may have to carefully sand your diode host down thinner to make it fit.
@c4land6
@c4land6 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Is there any other way to do it. Because, the diode module fits tightly to the torch case that I cannot isolate it from the case and also the switch of the torch is at the back of it
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
@@c4land6 No, I have had to isolate all my diodes that are case negative. You cannot use the case for positive because that will cause a short and regulation almost always happens on the negative which means an attempt to use the case as negative will completely bypass the driver regulating the current to the diode. Isolating the diode host from the case is to my knowledge the only option you have.
@c4land6
@c4land6 4 ай бұрын
Can I Isolate the the back cap of the torch instead? And bring another isolated connection for it?
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
If you have an idea you can try it. I have always isolated the host from the case, Not really tried anything else. I can't really recommend a better option as the one I use seems to have a 100% success rate.
@reinhartsteckin7152
@reinhartsteckin7152 4 ай бұрын
Where do you explain the generation of the yellow light?
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
That's for a future video where I discuss a range of SFD Laser crystals. I am still collecting parts and running tests on that and it will be some time. It's one of those mega projects though and there is a bunch to still do.
@SarahC2
@SarahC2 4 ай бұрын
@@Zenodilodon Would it be similar to sodium's 589nm emission? That would be very handy!
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 ай бұрын
@@SarahC2 There are 589nm Lasers but I have yet to get one. I have tried 593nm in some sodium line stuff such as black fire and it doesn't work.
@phonotical
@phonotical 4 ай бұрын
Test for how long until crappy laser burns out? If people find they only have a 20 hour life span, they might go back to doing things with a bit more pride 😅 What was the electroplating process?
@Boogie_the_cat
@Boogie_the_cat 4 ай бұрын
No, people (lay persons) just want to buy the cheapest ones. Not enough people who are buying these pointers would understand what makes a good pointer and why. I knew this guy who would abuse the on\off cycle times recommended for his 450nm pointer until the module got hot enough to be mildly uncomfortable. Then the pointer would fail not too long after, and he'd buy another one and do the same thing to break it. He could not be bothered to care about what causes diodes to fail, and why. He just would not listen to care and safety, and he'd also buy solely on eBay, where they would sell him a $150 pointer with a plastic lens that would melt. People want "toy" lasers, and they want them as cheap as possible, no matter what. This is best witnessed by the complete lack of IR filter on 90% of Amazon\eBay DPSS pointers. People are dumb. And these pointers are manufactured by so many companies, with only 1% putting an actual brand name on their products, there is zero chance of budget laser pointer manufacturers making their products better, and if they DID (and chose to attach a brand name to their products, so you would know which pointer is made well) then every cheap Chinese manufacturer would just change their pointer's LOOKS to appear as if they were the high quality pointer. Cheap lasers lost their identity decades ago, when the companies stopped using brand names, and every manufacturer just decided to call it a "301" or "303" based on the lens threading style. If you want a decent quality laser, you have to know what to look for from companies that only sell optical products, and \ or read a lot in Laserforums.com and stay far away from eBay and Amazon (and wish and Temu) where you can't even find out the brand name of the laser manufacturer. Good companies don't hide their brand names.
@phonotical
@phonotical 4 ай бұрын
@@Boogie_the_cat are you high right now
@jatigre1
@jatigre1 3 ай бұрын
Hey, you like lasers right? How about science, do you like that too? Why not do both at the same time!?! Why not try to built a Michelson Morley interferometer and oh, I don't know, rotating it vertically, for a change? What do you say!?!
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 3 ай бұрын
I do like both. Why not do both at the same time? Excellent question in context to your proposal. Is this vertical like a helicopter or vertical like a Ferris wheel? Just give me the rotational axes in x or y. Making a frame that wouldn't flex in that circumstance would be an absolute nightmare. Locating bearings would also be nearly impossible. Interferometers measure very subtle changes. It would be like trying to measure something in micro grams while on a freight train. To much vibrations from the bearings. Optical gyroscopes don't actually spin at all. Using magnetic levitation is also pretty much out as a fully decoupled system usually a switching electromagnet and that could induce a lot of noise into the system. Mode locking is also an issue with interferomters. This is where the interference doesn't change because of special photonic physics. They using something called dithering motors to physically move the optical assembly to prevent that, and well that isn't exactly easy. There really isn't any good reason to even make that device honestly.
@jatigre1
@jatigre1 3 ай бұрын
@@Zenodilodon Yes, change history.
@jatigre1
@jatigre1 3 ай бұрын
Edmund Optics sells a complete cage Michelson interferometer, and I think someone with your talent would come up with a clever way to rotate a heavy setup like that. Let's split the Nobel Prize. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbpgl5qgnb6WXXk.html
@jatigre1
@jatigre1 3 ай бұрын
@@Zenodilodon kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbpgl5qgnb6WXXk.html
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